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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:49 am Post subject: First look at Air India's 787-8s - Part II |
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Continued from Part I of this thread, which can be found here :
First look at Air India's 787-8s
http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=10221&start=360
Folks, may I once again request that we stick to the debut of the Air India 787s in this thread. Thanks. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:50 am Post subject: |
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The second Charleston built 787, VT-ANJ, had her first flight today (9/12/12); and a relatively short one - from Charleston, SC to Jacksonville, FL.
VT-ANJ had the engine issue on 7/29 during preflight runway testing.
Meanwhile, delivery of the second 787 to Air India (VT-AND) seems to have been pushed back, and will not happen this weekend.
It is also official now (well, for now at least) - the 787s will NOT be named. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | Finally ..... VT-ANH makes her first commercial revenue flight on Wednesday, 9/19, with two routes on that day: DEL-BLR and DEL-MAA. |
VT-ANH will operate daily on the DEL-CCU sector w.e.f. Saturday, 9/22. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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jasepl Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:08 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | Finally ..... VT-ANH makes her first commercial revenue flight on Wednesday, 9/19, with two routes on that day: DEL-BLR and DEL-MAA. |
VT-ANH will operate daily on the DEL-CCU sector w.e.f. Saturday, 9/22. |
Oh please! How can you still be so naďve ? You should know by now that means nothing.
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sammyk Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Shoulda called the thread "Second look at Air India's 787-8s". |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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sammyk wrote: | Shoulda called the thread "Second look at Air India's 787-8s". |
I actually thought of doing that, though wasn't convinced it would fly with the majority. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know when the second one is going to be delivered, and where it will fly to? _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | Does anyone know when the second one is going to be delivered |
There is no specific date, though it is expected to arrive next week.
The_Goat wrote: | ...and where it will fly to? |
The routes for AND are expected to be the same as for ANH. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Neither the possible triangular AI 439 routing DEL-MAA-HYD-DEL `scheduled' for 19 Sep, nor the DEL-CCU for 22 Sep are available for booking on the Air India site on the 787 - the routes still show the Airbii operating - since yesterday. Am I missing something here?
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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sammyk wrote: | Shoulda called the thread "Second look at Air India's 787-8s". |
Love it. _________________ Yeah. |
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sammyk Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:52 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | sammyk wrote: | Shoulda called the thread "Second look at Air India's 787-8s". |
I actually thought of doing that, though wasn't convinced it would fly with the majority. |
Looks like you or someone changed it! I was just joking around. |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:26 am Post subject: |
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sammyk wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | sammyk wrote: | Shoulda called the thread "Second look at Air India's 787-8s". |
I actually thought of doing that, though wasn't convinced it would fly with the majority. |
Looks like you or someone changed it! I was just joking around. |
Guess it was someone else - it's back to what I had it originally, though.
Anyways, back to the topic at hand. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:30 am Post subject: |
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VT-ANH arrived at BOM today (9/13) to a water cannon salute (yes, yet again), with top AI brass to finanlize bridge financing for the 787s (apparently this is gonna be done in Bombay). _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:06 am Post subject: |
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abhigopal Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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sumantra wrote: | Neither the possible triangular AI 439 routing DEL-MAA-HYD-DEL `scheduled' for 19 Sep, nor the DEL-CCU for 22 Sep are available for booking on the Air India site on the 787 - the routes still show the Airbii operating - since yesterday. Am I missing something here?
Cheers, Sumantra. |
Hi Sumantra - My guess is that AI 403 from DEL - BLR arriving BLR at 19:10 and the return to DEL will be the 787 flight. this is the only one on the site for that day which is not showing an assigned aircraft type yet. |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | Finally ..... VT-ANH makes her first commercial revenue flight on Wednesday, 9/19, with two routes on that day: DEL-BLR and DEL-MAA. |
Here is the initial flight schedule :
AI439 DEL0700 – 0940MAA
AI430 MAA1045 – 1325DEL
AI403 DEL1630 – 1910BLR
AI404 BLR2010 – 2245DEL _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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aeroblogger Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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788 seatmap has been loaded for AI 439/430 and AI 403/404 _________________ Editor of AeroBlogger |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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When Air India Ltd. invited the media to see its first Dreamliner jet in Mumbai on Thursday it had one request: take off your shoes before boarding.
“It is like a Mandir [temple] for us… we should worship it,” an Air India executive told journalists gathered there. He explained he didn’t want them to “spoil the new carpets inside the aircraft.”
Journalists had to leave their shoes on the tarmac before being allowed on Boeing’s 787-800 aircraft, which was covered in marigold garlands, an adornment typical of temples in India. Once they reached the plane, journalists weren’t allowed to sit on business class seats – not even to take pictures.
Shoes piled outside Air India’s Dreamliner jet during its unveiling ceremony in Mumbai, Thursday.
http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2012/09/14/a-plane-thats-like-a-temple/ _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Oh. MY. Frickkin'. GOD!!!
They maybe saving it for complete destruction within a week... _________________ <a><img></a> |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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abhigopal wrote: | Hi Sumantra - My guess is that AI 403 from DEL - BLR arriving BLR at 19:10 and the return to DEL will be the 787 flight. this is the only one on the site for that day which is not showing an assigned aircraft type yet. |
Yes, as of today (14 Sep), both the AI 439 DEL-MAA-HYD-DEL and AI 403 DEL-BLR and AI 404 BLR-DEL have the delicious `unassigned aircraft' type, indicating the 787. However, 22 Sep DEL-CCU has not seen a change as yet.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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aeroblogger wrote: | 788 seatmap has been loaded for AI 439/430 and AI 403/404 |
Hmm...Economy is row 11 to row 39. Rohit: where would the overwing seats be (the seat rows), and which would be the ones with a nice view outside, unimpeded by the huge wing? I also note that rows 39 have two seats each, on the sides - how nice are these seats? Do they recline? Do they have a nice view outside? How much is the proximity to the window affected by the curvature of the aircraft?
Thanks, Sumantra. |
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himmat01 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Time to plan an official trip to MAA/BLR. _________________ Save Maharashtra! |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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himmat01 wrote: | Time to plan an official trip to MAA/BLR. |
Me too But nothing interesting on the horizon in th near future for me
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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Jaysit Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | [i]When Air India Ltd. invited the media to see its first Dreamliner jet in Mumbai on Thursday it had one request: take off your shoes before boarding.
“It is like a Mandir [temple] for us… we should worship it,” an Air India executive told journalists gathered there. He explained he didn’t want them to “spoil the new carpets inside the aircraft.”
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Oh, well. Typical. I guess this 787 is like a new bride in some heinous part of the cow belt states. She's treated like royalty on the day of her wedding (or at least until the moolah she brings is pocketed away) and then abused by everyone for the rest of her life.
In less than a year, the IFE will be in tatters, and those poor windows will only have one setting left operational. |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Ha ha! Interesting parallel here, but what I have seen of the AI maintenance of the plane insides over the past half-a-decade or so, I wouldn't think that would be the case. Of course, one never knows...
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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aeroblogger Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:12 am Post subject: |
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sumantra wrote: | aeroblogger wrote: | 788 seatmap has been loaded for AI 439/430 and AI 403/404 |
Hmm...Economy is row 11 to row 39. Rohit: where would the overwing seats be (the seat rows), and which would be the ones with a nice view outside, unimpeded by the huge wing? I also note that rows 39 have two seats each, on the sides - how nice are these seats? Do they recline? Do they have a nice view outside? How much is the proximity to the window affected by the curvature of the aircraft?
Thanks, Sumantra. |
These are questions which Devesh can probably answer better - I've only been on an AI 787 once, and that was a very brief visit... _________________ Editor of AeroBlogger |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:35 am Post subject: |
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VT-ANH is scheduled to depart BOM (late) Sat evening or Sun morning IST, after a day of cabin crew familiarization. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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...further questions on the AI 787:
I wonder why the AI 787 seats are numbered ABC-DEF-GHJ, and not A-K, as in the AI 777s, or the 332s. The starboard seat is always a `K' on the 777s or the 332s. Further, row 39 (the bunch of twin seats are AB and HJ), so officially at least, A and J are window seats. From what I have heard, they are not too close to the windows. On the 332s at least, the part where the plane body curves in (and also goes up), the windows are not that far from the seat, from what I have seen.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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Devesh Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Sumantra I suggest you see my video walk through of the cabin. Might give you an idea. I think the wings start from around row 18 or so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmKrHZjAKj8 _________________ ----------------------
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Devesh Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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aeroblogger wrote: | 788 seatmap has been loaded for AI 439/430 and AI 403/404 | Hi Rohit. Where are the seat maps?? Any URL please?
TIA. _________________ ----------------------
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Devesh wrote: | aeroblogger wrote: | 788 seatmap has been loaded for AI 439/430 and AI 403/404 | Hi Rohit. Where are the seat maps?? Any URL please?
TIA. | On the AI website and GDS... Make a dummy booking, and try to select seats _________________ Editor of AeroBlogger |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:46 am Post subject: |
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According to Boeing SC, the engines on the SC built 787s (VT-ANI/J/K) are to be tested regularly to make sure no cracks have formed.
This will affect AI's delivery schedule (though VT-ANJ & VT-ANK are not yet delivery ready).
The only SC built delivery ready 787 (VT-ANI) will not be delivered anytime soon.
Everett built VT-AND's delivery is almost certain to be pushed back indefinitely as well. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Devesh wrote: | Sumantra I suggest you see my video walk through of the cabin. Might give you an idea. I think the wings start from around row 18 or so. |
No, Devesh-ji, the wing starts from around row 13. 11 and 12 may still be fine. I was wondering as to where it `ends', and whether the rearward seats actually enable one to get a good view. I have seen your video a long time back, on your website, just after you posted it There are links to it from all over the Internet.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Air India 787 seat map.
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sanatgaba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:26 am Post subject: Some of my pics of the Dream)Liner at VABB |
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Here are some of my pics of the Air India 787-837 Dream)Liner when it came to VABB!
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Lovely pics, Sanat! |
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ajaind Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Per an email from Air India frequent flier program, the 787 will operate DEL - MAA - DEL & DEL - BLR - DEL effective Sep 19 as per the following schedule:
AI 439 DEL - MAA 0700 0940
AI 430 MAA - DEL 1045 1325
AI 403 DEL - BLR 1630 1910
AI 404 BLR - DEL 2010 2245
Special fares on offer too
http://www.airindia.com/SBCMS/webpages/tryst-width-dreamliners.aspx |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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ajaind wrote: | Per an email from Air India frequent flier program, the 787 will operate DEL - MAA - DEL & DEL - BLR - DEL effective Sep 19 as per the following schedule: |
If you had made the effort to scroll up & read, you would've noticed that this "news" was posted on Fri Sep 14, 2012. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Devesh Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice Sanat. How did you guys manage to go airside? _________________ ----------------------
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vikramv2 Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Sad to see AI giving BOM the miss for the 787 proving flights... Would have been awesome to be on one of the first flights. I hope they start the 787 on some routes from BOM. BOM should easily support loads of 238 seats to both EU and to Far east apart from Middle East region.
Anyone one what the first int'l flights will be post the proving flights and crew acclimatization on domestic flights? _________________ http://airliners1.com
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