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sammyk · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:58 pm Post subject:

I know what was meant, just nitpicking. Smile

747-237 · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:28 am Post subject:

747-237 · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:30 am Post subject:

VT-ANM (5th SC built) which was unpainted at CHS, was flown to Forth Worth, TX this afternoon to be painted in Air India colors.
She is to become AI's seventh 787 soon.
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747-237 · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:20 am Post subject:

Slightly unrelated, but nonetheless.

Boeing SC has rolled out it's first 787 that will not be going to Air India.
The sixth 787 built at Charleston is (the only one) on the CHS flightline at the moment, and will be delivered to Hainan Airlines.

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747-237 · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:31 am Post subject:

sumantra · Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi

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sumantra · Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi

It is `Jharkhand' today as well, to CDG. 11 Jan, 2013.

747-237 · Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:46 am Post subject:

harshwcam3 · Member Joined: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 114

Has the JAL 787 fire at BOS caused AI to delay the induction of the 787 to CDG and perform thorough checks on them. In fact on 10th Jan I saw a dreamliner parked outside the AI hangars at BOM

Jeh · Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject:

sabya99 · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:59 am Post subject:

Dreamliner snags worry Air India
KARAN CHOUDHURY

New Delhi, Jan. 11: Air India launched its latest Dreamliner flight to Paris yesterday even as Boeing’s latest offering reported snags in locations abroad, forcing the national carrier to rethink its remaining Dreamliner purchases till the glitches are resolved.
The national carrier and the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) are closely monitoring the situation. However, the aviation regulator has not ordered any evaluation of the Dreamliners owned by Air India.
“We are awaiting the detailed inquiry report into the Boston (fire) incident. As of now we have not given any orders to Air India. In the recent case we are particularly interested to know about the battery snag causing electrical problems, to understand if it is a one-off incident or could be something that would cause problems for Air India’s B787s as well,” Director-General of Civil Aviation Arun Mishra told The Telegraph.
On Monday, a fire started in the battery pack of an auxiliary power unit of a Japan Airlines 787 as the plane sat on the tarmac at Boston’s Logan International Airport. There were no passengers on board.
On Tuesday, a leak in the engine forced another B787 to stall its flight from Boston.
A brake problem on a Dreamliner forced All Nippon Airways (ANA) to cancel a flight from Yamaguchi Ube Airport on Wednesday.
Today, in two separate incidents, ANA reported that a domestic flight from Tokyo developed a crack on the cockpit windscreen, though it managed to land safely at Matsuyama airport in Japan. The airline added that oil was leaking from an engine of another 787 Dreamliner after the plane landed at Miyazaki airport in southern Japan.
According to DGCA officials, the Dreamliner uses electrical power to run on-board functions such as hydraulics and air conditioning. The lighter weight makes the 787 more fuel efficient, a big advantage for airlines battling high jet fuel costs.
The system uses high-voltage distribution panels and powerful batteries such as the one that suffered the snag in Boston.
The United States Federal Aviation Administration has decided to conduct a review of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner power system. It is also likely to examine the design and the quality of manufacturing of the aircraft.
Last month, United Airlines and Qatar reported electrical problems in Dreamliners.
Till now, the DGCA has not taken any decision to stop inducting Dreamliners or grounding in-service aircraft.
Top Air India officials have also refused to confirm or deny whether the airline was putting the remaining purchases on hold.
In August last year, Air India grounded one Dreamliner after its front cargo door would not shut.
Again in September, a cooling unit, meant to prevent the power generating equipment of the aircraft from being overheated, malfunctioned on a Dreamliner in Delhi.
Air India has received six B787-Dreamliner aircraft so far with the last plane having arrived in Delhi on January 4.
Besides Paris, Dreamliners now fly from Delhi to Dubai, Frankfurt and on some domestic routes. Air India is committed to buy 27 of these jets over a period of six years.
Source: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130112/jsp/business/story_16432575.jsp
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747-237 · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:56 am Post subject:

Jeh · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:16 pm Post subject:

AI's third international 787 route is finally underway - DEL-CDG with VT-ANJ doing the honours. Cue much heartburn in 'Bund-bay' Smile

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Jeh · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:44 am Post subject:

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All I see are the 787s replacing routes flown by the 777s (CDG and FRA), and doing Biryani-Dosa routes like DEL-MAA/BLR that should really be flown by A32*s.

Where are those magical new routes that the 787s were supposed to be launching?

If that supposed sale to "Ukraine International" of 5 77Ls indeed takes place, then AI will at least be in a slightly better situation. Otherwise, all it means is more widebodies hanging out on the tarmac. And given that AI is slated to receive 27 787s, this means that most of those widebodies hanging around the tarmac may be 787s.

747-237 · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:12 am Post subject:

Air India newest 787 (WA Built), VT-ANN, has broken cover on the KPAE flightline today.
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747-237 · Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:52 pm Post subject:

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aeroblogger · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:55 am Post subject:

FAA has grounded 787. Expect DGCA to follow suit.
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747-237 · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:58 am Post subject:

Whereabouts of the Air India 787s:

1 x grounded at BLR
1 x grounded at MAA
4 x grounded at DEL
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Spiderguy252 · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:29 am Post subject:

There you have it - the 787 is officially the biggest troublemaker among all Airbus and Boeing types in modern aviation history.

And the shenanigans are not over yet. Who knows what else might snap in the delivered frames in the months to come?
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747-237 · Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:07 am Post subject:

Getting back on track .....

Air India 787 Replacement schedule until 19JAN13 for Domestic and Dubai, 20JAN13 for Long-Haul
Delhi – Bangalore Airbus A330-200 replaces 787
Delhi – Chennai Airbus A330-200 replaces 787
Delhi – Dubai Boeing 747-400 replaces 787
Delhi – Kolkata Boeing 747-400 replaces 787
Delhi – Frankfurt / Delhi – Paris CDG Service combined as Delhi – Frankfurt – Paris CDG – Delhi with 777-300ER
AI121 DEL1335 – 1755FRA2100 – 2200CDG 77W
AI142 CDG2300 – 1125+1DEL 77W

Source: Airlineroute.net
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Jeh · Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:17 am Post subject:

jasepl · Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay

I'm sorry, but no. Your posts have been far from objective.

When presented with criticism of Air India, very nearly everyone who claims to have no special interest will react in a way that will typically range from "oh no, don't be mean" to "don't forget to flush". That's about it.

And certainly such intense bristling at ridiculing "AI employees" in general is doubly suspect. I didn't see you react with any of the same outrage whenever I called the Jet employees clueless. Nor do I believe you would have reacted the same way if I were to have said that all MTNL employees are thieves or that all Renault employees are lazy.

Your reactions suggest something far, far deeper than fondness or nostalgia or even something a simple good samaritan would have to say about the maligned or downtrodden. Look at your own posts objectively (if you can) - they smack of an underlying reason.

And speaking of AI and their 787s, what happened to latest and greatest premonition? I thought the planes were 100% A-okay? Laughing

As for my view on AI, regardless of my name calling and regardless of who is to blame and regardless of the fantasy that AI might yet turn into the standard-bearer of reliability and quality, my central point remains unchanged : AI has sucked up far too much of taxpayer money for far too long and serves no meaningful purpose that cannot be more efficiently served by private enterprise. For that singular reason alone, it needs to die.
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Jeh · Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:20 pm Post subject:

Jeh · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:24 pm Post subject:

Very serious if true, and astonishingly negligent on the part of whoever okayed the draft agreement at AI. Idiots Mad

Why did nobody think this might be possible for a new aircraft type after all that happened to the A380?

Air India might not get payout from insurer on Boeing loss

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/air-india-might-not-get-payoutinsurerboeing-loss-/499835/

Air India might have to rely solely on Boeing for compensation for the loss caused due to its 787 Dreamliners being grounded, as the insurance cover it has taken does not cover financial losses due to glitches occurring on account of technical and other factors.

"In this case, Air India will not be awarded any compensation as the planes have been grounded for other reasons and not due to fire, accident or blast. Only such damages are covered by the policy," said a senior official from New India Assurance, which had bagged a contract to insure the entire fleet of Air India.

In traditional fleet insurance policies, only damages caused by major accidents and natural catastrophe are covered. Hence, if an airline's fleet if grounded due to regulatory issues, the insurance company is not liable to pay.

Air India had grounded all six planes in its Dreamliner fleet after the US Federal Aviation Administration issued a global advisory to airlines that used the 50-odd Dreamliner aircraft around the world. Air India would resume Dreamliner services only when the Directorate General of Civil Aviation clears this.

But certain policies do offer a discount in premiums, if a flight is grounded for a long period. Private general insurer ICICI Lombard General Insurance for example, under its aviation hull insurance policy has a provision for concession in premium if the aircraft is grounded. The underwriters usually charge 35 per cent of the full flight risk rate for the period the aircraft is grounded. "It has been noted that some airlines have had their fleet grounded due to financial and regulatory issues. But, since the present policies do not offer compensation for these, genuine airlines are at a loss," said the CEO of a broking firm specialising in commercial insurance.

The executive added that insurers were also not in a position to offer high payouts in these cases, as these conditions were risky and would push their books into the red.

Air India, in the meanwhile, is hoping that the situation gets resolved quickly. A senior Air India official confirmed that that the fleet insurance policy does not cover revenue loss due to grounding. "We hope that it is a temporary issue. The Boeing 787 is fuel efficient and we have 15 per cent saving in fuel cost and our Delhi-Frankfurt route had turned cash positive for us," he added.

In a recent interview with Business Standard, Civil Aviation Minister Ajit Singh had said, "We expect if an aircraft causes a commercial problem, Boeing would have to compensate. At this point, we are not clear about how serious the problem is, what the commercial implications are and how long it would take. If we say anything now, it would be speculation."

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Jeh · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject:

747-237 · Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:55 pm Post subject:

747-237 · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:08 am Post subject:

Air India to Launch Boeing 787 Service on Delhi – London Heathrow Route from late-March 2013

As per 02FEB13 GDS timetable and inventory display, Air India plans to introduce Boeing 787 aircraft on its second daily Delhi – London Heathrow operation from 31MAR13, replacing current Boeing 777-200LR operation. Air India is the first carrier to update its Boeing 787 operational schedule for Summer 2013 season since the grounding on 16JAN13, despite there is no confirmation on when will the current worldwide grounding of the Dreamliner ends.

Reservation for the Boeing 787 service is now open.

AI115 DEL0520 – 1015LHR 788 x47
AI115 DEL0705 – 1200LHR 788 47
AI111 DEL1405 – 1900LHR 77W D

AI116 LHR1230 – 0140+1DEL 788 x47
AI116 LHR1400 – 0310+1DEL 788 47
AI112 LHR2130 – 1040+1DEL 77W D

Source: Airlineroute.net

aeroblogger · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:25 am Post subject:

AI has left slack in the 77L schedule, presumably to cover these 787 routes if the need arises.
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sumantra · Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi

All the 788s are in BOM right now: maintenance for `stored' planes, or a Boeing visit at AI's heavy engineering base? BOM spotters: no pictures yet? Smile

Cheers, Sumantra.