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| HAWK21M wrote: | | Someone mentioned that the Windshield on the B787 had a paint touchup done....Or was it condensation...... |
Not sure how a windshield can get a paint job!
Regardless, haven't heard of anything (except a bird bump) to cause the former, therefore it was probably the latter.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | HAWK21M wrote: | | Someone mentioned that the Windshield on the B787 had a paint touchup done....Or was it condensation...... |
Not sure how a windshield can get a paint job!
Regardless, haven't heard of anything (except a bird bump) to cause the former, therefore it was probably the latter. |
here is the FB photo of the windshield work being talked about
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151241476511224&set=a.10151241165671224.505238.625281223&type=1&theater
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| 747-237 wrote: | | sumantra wrote: | | VT-ANI possibly coming in on Tuesday |
Will be delivered 10/01, arrival in DEL 10/02 (as of now, that is). |
According to Boeing CEO Jim McNerney this morning, delivery of 1st SC 787 in "near term".
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According to the Airfinance Journal, Boeing will lend Air India $100 million to help finance the purchase of its third 787 (VT-ANI). Perhaps this was the cause of the hold up in delivery.
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Boeing SC spokesman Tim Deaton confirmed today that the 1st SC-built 787 (VT-ANI) will be officially delivered to Air India tomorrow (10/05) morning. There will be a signing ceremony in the Boeing SC delivery center around 8:30am ET followed by an ribbon-cutting ceremony outside, with Dinesh Keskar present.
VT-ANI will leave CHS on Saturday (10/06) afternoon for DEL.
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^ Great News, 747-237 ! First Charleston built Aircraft for AI. Tomorrow's fanfare will probably be much more, given the 'SC' Angle to it!
Loads on the inaugural CCU Flight are definitely good. Any idea how they are doing post the Inaugural fanfare? It would great to know how well or worse they are performing on BLR/CCU/MAA and now DXB too.
If AI wants to earn back some of the Reputation it has lost over the years, they need to deploy the 787 on the DEL-CCU or DEL-BLR/MAA service on a permanent basis than just merely short time runs for Crew Training/Familiarization. If flights to QTA flights to FCO or IST or NBO or DAR are brought in, they could do it given the relatively lower block times on these sectors. After all, this is what they had mentioned in the EXIM bank re-financing Presentation, albeit with the LRs. I'm sure the Frequent Flyers would love them on the morning Biz Runs. Crew has to be equally good to make it work.
Anyway, here is a shot of the Interiors of AI 787 Dreamliner. This is the J Class shown here, with the Contour Aura Seats. After this order, the Aura product was changed to Aura Lite, so that Contour could offer a Regional Biz Class product.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/2165412/L/
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The same Seat was selected by Ethiopian and LAN Chile. Hard Product is definitely Best in its Class.
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| rutvij wrote: | | ^ Great News, 747-237 ! First Charleston built Aircraft for AI. Tomorrow's fanfare will probably be much more, given the 'SC' Angle to it! |
True. After all, ANI is the first Boeing jetliner ever built outside of the Puget Sound region, not to mention the first jetliner built in SC, which involves a lot of South Carolinian pride. Unlike with all other airlines, Air India's first 787 (ANH) was not delivered in Everett and thus the delivery was devoid of fanfare (my favourite being the ceremonial "key" to the first Dreamliner given to each airline). Hopefully the ceremony for ANI at CHS should make up for it.
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| ^ Indeed. Any Delivery Ceremony video streaming being planned? Let us know if there are any links.. |
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| rutvij wrote: | | Loads on the inaugural CCU Flight are definitely good. Any idea how they are doing post the Inaugural fanfare? |
Rutvij, Papa flew on it on 24 Sep, 2012, CCU-DEL. Loads in Y were excellent, and the service, good. However, there was some aero-bridge delay when the plane came in at DEL.
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VT-ANI being prepped for delivery at CHS this morning.
Dinesh Keskar & the AI contigent arrive.
Jack Jones speaks.
Dinesh Keskar speaks.
It's a deal - VT-ANI is signed over to Air India.
Cutting the red ribbon for Air India's latest addition to the fleet.
VT-ANI interiors on her first day with Air India.
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Official Boeing Press Release
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2438
Boeing Delivers First South Carolina-built 787 Dreamliner
Historic delivery to Air India begins a new chapter of Boeing airplane production in region
NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C., Oct. 5, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) today marked a historic milestone with delivery of the first 787 Dreamliner built at its North Charleston, S.C., facility to Air India.
The delivery continues the momentum of the 787 Dreamliner's entry into revenue service by customers globally and marks the beginning of a new era of commercial airplane production in South Carolina.
"Within just three years of breaking ground, we have flown and delivered our first airplane built at Boeing South Carolina," said Jack Jones, vice president and general manager, Boeing South Carolina. "This is a tribute to the remarkable Boeing South Carolina team and the support we have received from our airline customers, our supplier partners and the Boeing enterprise, as well as the relationship we have with the State of South Carolina."
Work on the Boeing South Carolina Final Assembly and Delivery Center began in November 2009. Production of the first South Carolina-built 787 began in mid-2011 and the completed airplane rolled out of the factory in April.
Boeing South Carolina fabricates, integrates and assembles the midbody and aftbody fuselage sections for all 787 Dreamliners. Completed sections are joined in South Carolina Final Assembly, or transported via the Dreamlifter to 787 Final Assembly in Everett, Wash.
"We're delighted to be the first airline in the world to take delivery of a Dreamliner from this beautiful factory and look forward to taking many more," said Air India Board Member K.M. Unni. "The 787 is an airplane with unmatched efficiency and technology, which will help in our airline's turnaround plan."
Dinesh Keskar, senior vice president of Asia Pacific and India Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes, praised Boeing's long, successful partnership with Air India, including delivery in September of its first two of 27 Dreamliners. "With two 787s successfully introduced to Air India's fleet, passengers are enjoying breakthrough features such as larger windows, lower cabin altitude and unprecedented flying experience," said Keskar.
Today's delivery marks the 28th 787 Dreamliner delivered to date. Boeing South Carolina will increase final assembly production to three 787s per month by the end of 2013.
The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the first commercial jetliner made primarily of advanced composite materials. It offers exceptional passenger comfort features, including cleaner air, a lower cabin altitude, higher humidity, bigger windows that dim electronically and more overhead storage space. Airlines appreciate its fuel efficiency, which is 20 percent better than other airplanes in its class and results in 20 percent lower carbon emissions.
Ribbon cutting at the first South Carolina-built 787 Dreamliner
Left to right: Capt. Amitabh Singh, Air India Pilot; Dinesh Keskar, senior vice president of Asia Pacific and India Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes;K. M. Unni, Air India Board Member:Jack Jones, vice president and general manager, Boeing South Carolina.
Employees gather to watch the delivery of the first Boeing South Carolina-assembled 787 Dreamliner to Air India.
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| 747-237 wrote: | VT-ANJ is scheduled to fly to Fort Worth, TX today (9/29) to get a paint job into full Air India colors.
Hopefully ANI would have left CHS (scheduled early next week as of now) by the time ANJ gets back. |
VT-ANJ is expected to return to CHS from Fort Worth this weekend after a paint job.
Also, the 4th SC built 787 (the future VT-ANL) has been rolled out onto the CHS fligthline.
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| Those interiors just get uglier each time I see them. |
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Here you go! FYI! The photo is by Mayank Khanna
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Isn't Capt Rohit Bhasin supposed to bring Princess ANI back to India? Of course, a team goes, not one person. Second, Captain Amitabh Singh is there again - interesting!
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| Aseem wrote: | | Here you go! FYI! The photo is by Mayank Khanna |
Aseem, I had already posted the link above, on this page itself, without linking the picture, of course, or putting in any history/quotes, so people may have missed it.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | VT-ANI will leave CHS on Saturday (10/06) afternoon for DEL. |
VT-ANI's flyaway from CHS is now scheduled for Monday ( 10/08 ), between 2:00 and 3:30 p.m. ET.
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Lets Rephrase......the frame of the Windshield looks paint touched up OR was that condensation.
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It's a deal - VT-ANI is signed over to Air India.
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Here's a closer look at that document.
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Air India starts DEL-FRA on the 787 on 10/15.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | Air India starts DEL-FRA on the 787 on 10/15. |
All that means is that one additional 777 will be sunbathing on the DEL tarmac as some AI babu continues to trot out the same tired old lines about AI "regaining its past glory" or some such sh*t.
While the EU routes are ideal for the 787s,it appears that AI will be replacing 777 routes with 787s, even on such major international "trunk" routes like BOM-LHR. That isn't what the 787s were intended to do. They were purchased to allow AI to start long, thin, new routes. I supposed India-Oz counts, but AI will find a way to turn that into a gigantic loss as well. They could take an aircraft that runs on solar power, mother's love and hot air and still lose money. |
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Some more pics from VT-ANI's delivery at CHS this past weekend.
Kanhaka Wcislak of Boeing SC signs a banner in front of VT-ANI.
A member of the AI contingent, Dukkipati Chittibabu, checking out ANI's flight deck.
Another member of the AI contingent, Kunnamkumarth Muralidharan Unni, thanks Boeing employees after the ribbon-cutting ceremony.
On the right is Capt. Nisha Morals, one of the four Air India pilots who will fly VT-ANI back to India.
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| Jaysit wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | Air India starts DEL-FRA on the 787 on 10/15. |
All that means is that one additional 777 will be sunbathing on the DEL tarmac as some AI babu continues to trot out the same tired old lines about AI "regaining its past glory" or some such sh*t.
While the EU routes are ideal for the 787s,it appears that AI will be replacing 777 routes with 787s, even on such major international "trunk" routes like BOM-LHR. That isn't what the 787s were intended to do. They were purchased to allow AI to start long, thin, new routes. I supposed India-Oz counts, but AI will find a way to turn that into a gigantic loss as well. They could take an aircraft that runs on solar power, mother's love and hot air and still lose money. |
This is just familiarization, don't worry... Route will revert to 777 soon enough.
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VT-ANJ, the 2nd SC-built 787 is now expected to return from Fort Worth early this week, and is scheduled to be delivered to Air India on Saturday, 10/20, as AI's 4th 787.
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According to Boeing SC, VT-ANI's flyaway from CHS is scheduled for 2:45pm-3:00 p.m. EST today ( 10/08 ).
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Praise the lawd for finally getting this plane delivered! Can I get an AMEN!? |
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Air India's VT-ANI, the first SC built 787, leaves Charleston for the last time this afternoon, on her way to her new home.
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| aeroblogger wrote: | | Jaysit wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | Air India starts DEL-FRA on the 787 on 10/15. |
All that means is that one additional 777 will be sunbathing on the DEL tarmac as some AI babu continues to trot out the same tired old lines about AI "regaining its past glory" or some such sh*t.
While the EU routes are ideal for the 787s,it appears that AI will be replacing 777 routes with 787s, even on such major international "trunk" routes like BOM-LHR. That isn't what the 787s were intended to do. They were purchased to allow AI to start long, thin, new routes. I supposed India-Oz counts, but AI will find a way to turn that into a gigantic loss as well. They could take an aircraft that runs on solar power, mother's love and hot air and still lose money. |
This is just familiarization, don't worry... Route will revert to 777 soon enough. |
Perhaps, but it still means that a 777 will be languishing on a DEL apron while these "familiarization" flights continue. |
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Apparently AI will have 5 787s by the end of 2012, and another 7 delivered in 2013.
That's 12 additional wide-bodied aircraft in a 15 month time-frame.
So once again, what, pray tell, will these 12 787s be doing?
AI's current wide-bodied fleet comprises of:
8 77Ls
12 77Ws
2 A332s
5 744s.
Now we all know that these 27 existing aircraft aren't exactly being utilized. I suspect that 12 months from today, we'll be back and stating that few of AI's 39 widebodies are being utilized at any respectable level. |
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VT-AND is out of action, and has been grounded at DEL due to "disintegration of forward actuator arm bearing of forward cargo door", which prevents the cargo door from being shut.
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| Jaysit wrote: | | While the EU routes are ideal for the 787s,it appears that AI will be replacing 777 routes with 787s, even on such major international "trunk" routes like BOM-LHR. That isn't what the 787s were intended to do. They were purchased to allow AI to start long, thin, new routes. I supposed India-Oz counts, but AI will find a way to turn that into a gigantic loss as well. They could take an aircraft that runs on solar power, mother's love and hot air and still lose money. |
Amen. Where are the routes to Houston, Sydney or even Nairobi? I can't think of a more nonsensical idea than to plug these aircraft on BOM-LHR and DEL-FRA and the like - these are routes which see high levels of demand and competition from other carriers.
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| Jaysit wrote: | | Perhaps, but it still means that a 777 will be languishing on a DEL apron while these "familiarization" flights continue. |
What on earth do they need familiarisation with now?
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Amen. Where are the routes to Houston, Sydney or even Nairobi? I can't think of a more nonsensical idea than to plug these aircraft on BOM-LHR and DEL-FRA and the like - these are routes which see high levels of demand and competition from other carriers. |
If the 787s can make money on DEL-FRA or BOM-LHR, so be it. They are smaller airplanes with a cabin configuration more suitable, than the excessive 77Ws or the gas guzzling 77Ls.
and we needn't worry about flights to Nairobi etc. We're getting 27 of the damned things, out of which 15 are going to be delivered in the next six months or so. That's plenty of airplanes to fly wherever the babus at the GOI may fancy.
and it is probably a better idea for AI to get done with the 777s. Sell them off to cheap Biman, Turkish, TAAG, PIA, Arik Air or to whoever else is interested, cos if there is one things AI has demonstrated beyond doubt amongst other things, it is their total inability to understand the route dynamics that can make 777 operations profitable.
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The second SC built 787, VT-ANJ has been painted in full AI colors at Fort Worth, and is back on the CHS flightline.
She is expected to be delivered to Air India at the end of the month, as AI's 4th 787.
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| The_Goat wrote: | | If the 787s can make money on DEL-FRA or BOM-LHR, so be it. They are smaller airplanes with a cabin configuration more suitable, than the excessive 77Ws or the gas guzzling 77Ls. |
That's the moot point - Mumbai-Heathrow has been proven by one and all to be able to support a daily 777 service, BA and 9W especially don't seem to have a problem with it, so AI would just shoot itself in the foot if it decides to turn to the 787s on a high-density sector such as that. They haven't ordered them for such routes in the first place.
| The_Goat wrote: | | and it is probably a better idea for AI to get done with the 777s. Sell them off to cheap Biman, Turkish, TAAG, PIA, Arik Air or to whoever else is interested, cos if there is one things AI has demonstrated beyond doubt amongst other things, it is their total inability to understand the route dynamics that can make 777 operations profitable. |
Another thing AI's demonstrated over the last half a decade is its relative inability to sell or lease aircraft to potential customers.
The shrugging off excess capacity argument keeps going around in circles with this airline.
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That's the moot point - Mumbai-Heathrow has been proven by one and all to be able to support a daily 777 service, BA and 9W especially don't seem to have a problem with it, so AI would just shoot itself in the foot if it decides to turn to the 787s on a high-density sector such as that. They haven't ordered them for such routes in the first place. |
True, but you have to remember that both 9W and BA get lots of premium passengers on the route. Even their Y seats are usually priced higher and add the fact that their revenue management is much better than the GoI's, they can make the 77W work.
The only premium pax AI gets are freeloading babus, and their Y class is usually full of VFR uncles, aunties and students travelling on lowest price tickets. No way anyone can make a profit using 77Ws with such a clientele. So they may actually improve their margins with a smaller aircraft having fewer premium seats like the 787.
If I remember right, it was being spoken of a long time ago that one of the main reasons for AI ordering the 787 was to provide direct international connectivity to a few destinations from places like MAA, HYD, AMD, BLR and CCU. I wonder what happened to that.
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| The_Goat wrote: | | and it is probably a better idea for AI to get done with the 777s. Sell them off to cheap Biman, Turkish, TAAG, PIA, Arik Air or to whoever else is interested |
No one wants to fly AI's planes, let alone buy them.
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