Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  First look at Air India's 787-8s - Part II Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message The_Goat Member Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:56 pm    Post subject: vikramv2 wrote: Anyone one what the first int'l flights will be post the proving flights and crew acclimatization on domestic flights? DEL-HKG and BOM-LHR were being bandied about. But no one knows for sure. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes). -Jasepl Back to top Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:28 pm    Post subject: sumantra wrote: No, Devesh-ji, the wing starts from around row 13. 11 and 12 may still be fine. I was wondering as to where it `ends', and whether the rearward seats actually enable one to get a good view. I have seen your video a long time back, on your website, just after you posted it There are links to it from all over the Internet. Cheers, Sumantra. Sumantraji, thanks for the vote of confidence. You have the more updated info. If I remember correctly, the wing root stretched all the way to the end of the first section (Row 28 as per seat map). So the rear section (Row 30 onwards) will again afford you a good view. I have put a high res view from the wing in this story http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2012/09/air-india-boeing-787-dreamliner.html so just click on the pic and in the slide show you can right-click and download the picture. _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Last edited by Devesh on Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:34 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: The_Goat wrote: vikramv2 wrote: Anyone one what the first int'l flights will be post the proving flights and crew acclimatization on domestic flights? DEL-HKG and BOM-LHR were being bandied about. But no one knows for sure. It would be fun if AI started LHR quickly and generally rained on Mr. Al Bakar's grandiose plans to be the first carrier with a 788 in to LHR. _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:45 pm    Post subject: Devesh wrote: I have put a high res view from the wing in this story http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2012/09/air-india-boeing-787-dreamliner.html so just click on the pic and in the slide show you can right-click and download the picture. Lovely picture, Sir - most of us follow your website with a lot of interest! Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top Devesh Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 564 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: sumantra wrote: Lovely picture, Sir - most of us follow your website with a lot of interest! Cheers, Sumantra. Thanks for the kind compliments. I pointed to the picture since it shows the wing root all the way to the end of the front economy class section. _________________ ---------------------- Devesh Bangalore Aviation Back to top aeroblogger Member Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 788 Location: PVD, HYD, IXE Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:41 am    Post subject: VT-AND is enroute to Delhi, will arrive around 1700 local on Wednesday. GE has put out an advisory that they have come to the root cause of the problem, and steps taken to counter this issue will be announced shortly. _________________ Editor of AeroBlogger Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:09 am    Post subject: Air India's second 787 VT-AND was delivered at the Charleston delivery center this morning ( 09/18 ). VT-AND leaves CHS for the last time, on her way home. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: This evening there are three (all SC built) 787s on the CHS flightline (VT-ANI/ANJ/ANK). ANJ & ANK are still unpainted. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top Aseem Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: VT-AND leaves CHS for the last time, on her way home. was noticed on FlightRadar24 that VT-AND turned back after NewFoundland. Anybody having clue what happened. VT-ASJ _________________ [url=http://openflights.org/user/aseemsjohri] [/url] Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:14 am    Post subject: Aseem wrote: was noticed on FlightRadar24 that VT-AND turned back after NewFoundland. Anybody having clue what happened. Flightaware has AI 170 VT-AND well enroute to FRA, and arriving shortly. so not sure what was showing on FlightRadar24. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Air India's first revenue 787 flight is on it's way from DEL to MAA. Onboard is a former, and arguably most well known & well informed member of Airliners-India. Old timers here will know who I'm talking about. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top aeroblogger Member Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 788 Location: PVD, HYD, IXE Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:31 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Air India's first revenue 787 flight is on it's way from DEL to MAA. Onboard is a former, and arguably most well known & well informed member of Airliners-India. Old timers here will know who I'm talking about. kcm? Well whoever it is, they're very lucky indeed. I won't get a trip on the AI 787 until December when I come back home... Had to compromise and book on UA instead _________________ Editor of AeroBlogger Back to top aeroblogger Member Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 788 Location: PVD, HYD, IXE Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:36 am    Post subject: Aseem wrote: 747-237 wrote: VT-AND leaves CHS for the last time, on her way home. was noticed on FlightRadar24 that VT-AND turned back after NewFoundland. Anybody having clue what happened. VT-ASJ huh... Both flightaware and flightradar show that AIC170 sharply turned back and then returned to course a bit past Newfoundland. Very strange. An interesting question to be asked of the delivery captain for sure... _________________ Editor of AeroBlogger Back to top abhigopal Member Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 172 Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Air India's first revenue 787 flight is on it's way from DEL to MAA. Onboard is a former, and arguably most well known & well informed member of Airliners-India. Old timers here will know who I'm talking about. KCM told me he may /may not make it. I guess he has Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Air India's first revenue 787 flight is on it's way from DEL to MAA. Onboard is a former, and arguably most well known & well informed member of Airliners-India. Old timers here will know who I'm talking about. The lucky devil just landed at MAA - says it was like, well, a dream !! _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: VT-AND in FRA earlier this morning, inbound from CHS on her way home to DEL. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Today's loads on the inaugural 787 run : AI439 DEL – MAA : 118 pax AI430 MAA – DEL : 92 pax (And yes, there was yet another water cannon salute & puja performed at MAA). _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top Aseem Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: abhigopal wrote: 747-237 wrote: Air India's first revenue 787 flight is on it's way from DEL to MAA. Onboard is a former, and arguably most well known & well informed member of Airliners-India. Old timers here will know who I'm talking about. KCM told me he may /may not make it. I guess he has I think it was Mayank Khanna who was on board VT-ASJ _________________ [url=http://openflights.org/user/aseemsjohri] [/url] Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:12 pm    Post subject: The first 787 revenue flight (AI439) landing at MAA this morning, & getting yet another shower. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:30 pm    Post subject: The second run of the day, AI403 DEL – BLR had to return to the gate while taxiing at DEL, due to "cooling system failure". The flight was delayed by an hour. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top The_Goat Member Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: The second run of the day, AI403 DEL – BLR had to return to the gate while taxiing at DEL, due to "cooling system failure". The flight was delayed by an hour. oh dear! Brand new airplane, and it is already starting to have snags wonder what the situation will be a year from now! _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes). -Jasepl Back to top Spiderguy252 Member Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4259 Location: Indian Ocean Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: The_Goat wrote: oh dear! Brand new airplane, and it is already starting to have snags wonder what the situation will be a year from now! It's nothing surprising, just the aircraft equivalent of teething troubles. The 787 is a new launch and AI have managed to get hold of one of the earlier frames; minor snags like these are to be expected. Have you forgotten the "overweight" batch of 346s delivered to VS early on? Or was it Iberia? Not to mention AI themselves have been a victim of this not more than five years ago, when the altimeters of the 2 77Ls in the fleet - ALA and ALC stopped functioning thus delaying the BOM-JFK run by a good eight hours or so. Stuff happens early on with new aircraft, that's just the way they roll. _________________ Yeah. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: VT-AND has now arrived in Delhi. VT-ANI is up next; and according to Boeing SC GM Jack Jones today, the first SC built 787 will be delivered to Air India next week. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Onboard is a former, and arguably most well known & well informed member of Airliners-India. Old timers here will know who I'm talking about. Does Krishna (KCM) work in the Revenue Management at AI? Back to top abhigopal Member Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 172 Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:29 am    Post subject: sumantra wrote: 747-237 wrote: Onboard is a former, and arguably most well known & well informed member of Airliners-India. Old timers here will know who I'm talking about. Does Krishna (KCM) work in the Revenue Management at AI? Nope Sumantra Back to top vikramv2 Member Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 435 Location: Powai,Mumbai Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Today's loads on the inaugural 787 run : AI439 DEL – MAA : 118 pax AI430 MAA – DEL : 92 pax (And yes, there was yet another water cannon salute & puja performed at MAA). I think they need to deploy this in its bread and butter DEL-BOM-DEL routes where the yields and loads are better...No way with such loads are they going to make any money with this... Any clue what VT-AND is gonna do? _________________ http://airliners1.com Visit my photostream @flickr at http://www.flickr.com/photos/26842543@N07/ Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:34 am    Post subject: vikramv2 wrote: Any clue what VT-AND is gonna do? Apparently intl routes - DXB & SIN. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: vikramv2 wrote: Any clue what VT-AND is gonna do? CCU may not make it to the schedule, given Didi's stance, though I do not know if it was because of Dada at Raisina Hill. Vikram-were you on this flight? Thanks, Sumantra. Back to top rajeev.jaya Member Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 193 Location: Chennai Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:36 am    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Today's loads on the inaugural 787 run : AI439 DEL – MAA : 118 pax AI430 MAA – DEL : 92 pax (And yes, there was yet another water cannon salute & puja performed at MAA). Maybe bocz yesterday being a holiday, the low loads. By the way, what were the loads on the BLR run _________________ Rajeev Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: BLR loads were similarly low - a bunch of us went yesterday to watch it arriving - it finally landed at about 8:50 pm, and it seems departed much much later. _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: http://www.deccanherald.com/content/279890/nivedita-bhasin-becomes-first-woman.html Nivedita Bhasin becomes first woman B-787 Dreamliner pilot Sep 20, 2012 Senior Air India pilot Capt Nivedita Bhasin has become the first woman to command the new Boeing 787 Dreamliner which landed in New Delhi Wednesday, an airline official said. Bhasin, 50, brought the sleek new Dreamliner aircraft (VT-AND), the second to be inducted by Air India, from US' Charleston to the Indian capital, as the only trained woman pilot in the world for the B-787. Incidentally, Bhasin, who joined the erstwhile Indian Airlines, now merged into a common entity Air India, in 1984, had created world aviation history by commanding a commercial jetliner at the age of 26 on Jan 1, 1990, on the Mumbai-Aurangabad-Udaipur sector. While the first B-787 arrived in India Sep 8 and the second Wednesday, the third B-787 is expected to arrive in India by the month-end while five more are likely to join Air India fleet by the end of this year. Air India launched its first commercial service Wednesday with the B-787 flying between New Delhi-Chennai and then it was deployed on the Delhi-Bangalore route. The carrier will receive a total 27 B-787s -- advanced, fuel efficient and eco-friendly aircraft capable of flying up to 16,000 kms non-stop -- over the next five years. Nivedita lives with her husband, Capt Rohit Bhasin, and their two children in New Delhi. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11360 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: rajeev.jaya wrote: 747-237 wrote: Today's loads on the inaugural 787 run : AI439 DEL – MAA : 118 pax AI430 MAA – DEL : 92 pax (And yes, there was yet another water cannon salute & puja performed at MAA). Maybe bocz yesterday being a holiday, the low loads. By the way, what were the loads on the BLR run Loads on the second 787 run on Sept 19: AI403 DEL – BLR : 170 pax AI404 BLR – DEL : 112 pax Of course, there was yet another water cannon salute & puja performed at BLR. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India. Back to top rajeev.jaya Member Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 193 Location: Chennai Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: rajeev.jaya wrote: 747-237 wrote: Today's loads on the inaugural 787 run : AI439 DEL – MAA : 118 pax AI430 MAA – DEL : 92 pax (And yes, there was yet another water cannon salute & puja performed at MAA). Maybe bocz yesterday being a holiday, the low loads. By the way, what were the loads on the BLR run Loads on the second 787 run on Sept 19: AI403 DEL – BLR : 170 pax AI404 BLR – DEL : 112 pax Of course, there was yet another water cannon salute & puja performed at BLR. It makes sense for AI to run these machines on BLR/BOM routes where there is substantial yield _________________ Rajeev Back to top justbala Member Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 1898 Location: Bangalore Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: I have booked my tkts for DEL-BLR on Sunday.. hope there is no eq. change Back to top sri_bom Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:10 am    Post subject: Air India 787 develops technical snag 21-Sep-12 9:54 AM Air India's new Boeing 787 reportedly developed a technical issue on the first day of commercial operations on 19-Sep-2012, with a cooling unit malfunctioning when the aircraft was being pushed back (TNN, 20-Sep-2012). The issue resulted in a flight delay of around 40 minutes on the affected service, which was to operate from New Delhi to Bangalore. Reports indicate the same part had already been replaced twice prior to delivery for the carrier. Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: So I'd asked my brother in law to book himself on AI 404 BLR-DEL for yesterday -21-Sep - extolling the virtues of the 787 and assuring him he was in for an or....ic experience. He booked himself on that flight, and now tells me that he got a call in the day telling him the a/c type has been changed to a 77L due to "excessive loads for the evening BLR-DEL sector". And yes - it was a 77L that operated yesterday's AI 403/404 routing - I called the call center to confirm that it wasn't my BIL getting confused. And he said the a/c was packed to capacity, not a single free seat in Economy. What gives? I'm pretty sure the capacity of the 77L and the 787 is similar. Is the 787 facing further issues - either hardware or crew scheduling? _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top me111993 Member Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 3225 Location: MAA/AMD Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:25 am    Post subject: AI's 77Ls have 238 seats, their 787s have 254 seats. Idiots. _________________ Causal Determinism : We are hardwired to need answers. The Caveman who heard a rustle in the bushes and checked out to see what it was, lived longer than the guy, who assumed it was just a breeze. - Greg House Back to top aeroblogger Member Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 788 Location: PVD, HYD, IXE Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: The flight was booked to capacity in C. AI's 787 only has 18 C seats..... _________________ Editor of AeroBlogger Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:36 pm    Post subject: aeroblogger wrote: The flight was booked to capacity in C. AI's 787 only has 18 C seats..... If this is for real, then it's truly impressive! But the poor pax who booked the heavily advertised flight for the 787 experience were left dejected. _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top aeroblogger Member Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 788 Location: PVD, HYD, IXE Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Nimish wrote: aeroblogger wrote: The flight was booked to capacity in C. AI's 787 only has 18 C seats..... If this is for real, then it's truly impressive! But the poor pax who booked the heavily advertised flight for the 787 experience were left dejected. It isn't necessarily impressive. Perhaps some Babu wanted to try out the 787, so be got his entire extended family C seats on cheapo fares. 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