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AI may fly Dreamliner to San Francisco
Ajit Singh, civil aviation minister, told Business Standard, “We are considering going to San Francisco through the West Coast. We are weighing the option of a direct flight or we can use the Dreamliner to go via Singapore.”
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/ai-may-fly-dreamliner-to-san-francisco/492865/
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I don't see this even a point of discussion.
A sound byte taken from Ajit Singh that AI is considering a destination and there you go ..... a full article on that.
AIs B788s cannot even do a SIN - SFO non stop without a significant payload restriction. |
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Why oh why consider this via SIN? A whole +43.1% extra distance, an extra stop and completely senseless routing? Perhaps ICN (+11%) or NRT/KIX (+14%) or even HKG (+20%) still makes sense, but SIN?
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From To Initial Heading Distance
DEL (28°34'07"N 77°06'44"E) SFO (37°37'09"N 122°22'31"W) 16.4° (N) 7706 mi
2 segment path: 11026 mi (+43.1%)
DEL (28°34'07"N 77°06'44"E) SIN (1°21'01"N 103°59'40"E) 131.7° (SE) 2579 mi
SIN (1°21'01"N 103°59'40"E) SFO (37°37'09"N 122°22'31"W) 42.6° (NE) 8446 mi
Total: 18732 mi
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OTOH - a non-stop DEL-SFO is exactly what AI needs to stay relevant. Tie up with UA or AA at SFO to provide west coast regional connections, and time the DEL dept/arrival so you're able to connect to BLR/HYD/MAA etc. with not more than a 2 hour layover in DEL in both directions.
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| AI can extend any of the existing eastern routes like ICN and NRT onwards to SFO, LAX etc similar to what SQ does from SIN. The same 777W/L can go onwards to SFO/LAX. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| avbuff wrote: | I don't see this even a point of discussion.
A sound byte taken from Ajit Singh that AI is considering a destination and there you go ..... a full article on that.
AIs B788s cannot even do a SIN - SFO non stop without a significant payload restriction. |
+1.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | VT-ANL (4th SC built) is on her way to Fort Worth today (11/04) to receive full Air India colors. |
VT-ANL returned to CHS today ( 11/18 ) in full Air India colors.
There are once again 4 AI 788s on the Charleston flightline:
VT-ANJ (2nd SC built), Painted
VT-ANK (3rd SC built), Painted
VT-ANL (4th SC built), Painted
VT-ANM (5th SC built), Unpainted
VT-ANJ might be delivered this coming week (but don't hold your breath).
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| 747-237 wrote: | | DEL-LHR is being added to the Air India 787 long haul routes. |
According to Air India, DEL-LHR on the 787 starts next week.
A certain news agency has reported it as BOM-LHR. AI says it is DEL-LHR, with no planned 787 ops ex-BOM for the moment.
Next 787 destination planned is CDG, as of now.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | no planned 787 ops ex-BOM for the moment. |
Yet they've got ads all over Bombay saying fly the 787 between Delhi and Bangalore and Dubai. Idiots.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | According to Air India, DEL-LHR on the 787 starts next week. . |
Any official announcement to this effect, or is it still on the grapevine? |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| 747-237 wrote: | According to Air India, DEL-LHR on the 787 starts next week. A certain news agency has reported it as BOM-LHR. AI says it is DEL-LHR, with no planned 787 ops ex-BOM for the moment.
Next 787 destination planned is CDG, as of now. |
The new 787 is not in as yet, so which domestic 787 route will be axed? Or will this route start after the new 787 comes in (when it was supposed to be BOM-LHR, as per the grape{w/v}ine some time back)? Consolidation of 787 ops at DEL till more come in, may not be a bad idea, after all. AI seem to be doing the hub act at DEL quite well.
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| sumantra wrote: | The new 787 is not in as yet, so which domestic 787 route will be axed? Or will this route start after the new 787 comes in (when it was supposed to be BOM-LHR, as per the grape{w/v}ine some time back)? Consolidation of 787 ops at DEL till more come in, may not be a bad idea, after all. AI seem to be doing the hub act at DEL quite well.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
When is the next 787 due?
| sumantra wrote: | | grape{w/v}ine |
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| Jeh wrote: | | Any official announcement to this effect, or is it still on the grapevine? |
Not official yet, but should be soon. The news reported by the "Business Standard" is incorrect, as per AI.
| sumantra wrote: | The new 787 is not in as yet, so which domestic 787 route will be axed? Or will this route start after the new 787 comes in (when it was supposed to be BOM-LHR, as per the grape{w/v}ine some time back)? Consolidation of 787 ops at DEL till more come in, may not be a bad idea, after all. AI seem to be doing the hub act at DEL quite well.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
The next 787 was supposed to be delivered this weekend, but according to Boeing SC, has apparently now been pushed back by another week. AI *might* be waiting to take delivery of VT-ANJ before they officially open this route. (Again, hard to tell for sure with AI).
AI intends to use DEL as a base for 787 ops, for the immediate future.
And yes, this all according to the grape v/w/wh-ine, so please take with a grain of salt, as with all things Air India.
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| I too suspect the LHR route will be for DEL. The AI 115/116 run. |
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| 747-237 wrote: | | Next 787 destination planned is CDG, as of now. |
Looking forward to it!
Any possibility of that changeover happening in December?
Thanks!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| Jeh wrote: | | sumantra wrote: | | grape{w/v}ine |
Nice one |
No Jeh, this beauty is credited to member 747-237, I have just borrowed it.
He has just extended it to `whine'!
The BOM-LHR rumour looks quite strong, and will be started once VT-ANJ comes in, possibly by December. None of the existing domestic routes will be axed. Mr Pal: bad luck, ANJ will possibly be the last 787 delivered this year, so there isn't much chance of you getting a CDG AI trip 
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| 747-237 wrote: | There are once again 4 AI 788s on the Charleston flightline:
VT-ANJ (2nd SC built), Painted
VT-ANK (3rd SC built), Painted
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The foursome seen at the CHS flightline today.
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| jbalonso777 wrote: | | Would they Dreamliners be flying DEL-MEL by July next year? |
Look up the Air India news thread - you will find a lot of answers & speculation regarding this topic.
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| 747-237 wrote: | News from the other side of the country with Air India related activity at KPAE.
VT-ANE has begun the process to undergo change incorporation |
VT-ANC has also been moved to the Everett Modification Center to begin the change incorporation process.
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Air India is getting ready to take delivery of it's 4th 787.
A new Dreamliner (either ANJ/K/L) has been positioned outside the Charleston Delivery Center this morning.
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^ Delivered today (12/20) & flyaway from CHS around 1500EST.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| 747-237 wrote: | There are once again 4 AI 788s on the Charleston flightline:
VT-ANJ (2nd SC built), Painted
VT-ANK (3rd SC built), Painted
VT-ANL (4th SC built), Painted
VT-ANM (5th SC built), Unpainted
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VT-ANK (3rd SC built) was delivered today (12/20) and is on her way to FRA.
Three 787s left at CHS now.
VT-ANJ (2nd SC built), Painted
VT-ANL (4th SC built), Painted
VT-ANM (5th SC built), Unpainted
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VT-ANK and Air India were involved in a record of sorts.
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| Are the 787s still bouncing between domestic cities? |
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| d3vski wrote: | | Are the 787s still bouncing between domestic cities? |
All existing Air India 787 ops, domestic (BLR,MAA,CCU) & intl (DXB, FRA) have been extended until the end of Feb 2013.
LHR, CDG should start in Jan 2013.
All 787 routes are ex DEL.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: |
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A first look at Air India's next Everett built 787, the future VT-ANN.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: |
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VT-ANL (4th SC built) was delivered today (12/29) and is on her way to FRA. This is Air India's fifth 787.
Two 787s left at CHS now.
VT-ANJ (2nd SC built), Painted
VT-ANM (5th SC built), Unpainted
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| 'Kilo" has arrived so far.. |
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| Kabir-de-saint wrote: | | 'Kilo" has arrived so far.. |
I'm hoping she has, given that she left CHS ten days ago.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | Kabir-de-saint wrote: | | 'Kilo" has arrived so far.. |
I'm hoping she has, given that she left CHS ten days ago. |
ANK(h), the `Egyptian' plane, made her first revenue trip to Bengaluru, today (30 Dec'12). ANL, the `cancellation' (`annul') plane, should go into revenue service in the next 10-15 days, hopefully.
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| 747-237 wrote: | Two 787s left at CHS now.
VT-ANJ (2nd SC built), Painted
VT-ANM (5th SC built), Unpainted |
As seen this morning. VT-ANJ is up for delivery next.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | Next 787 destination planned is CDG, as of now. |
CDG on the 787 starts 03/31.
AI 143 DEL 1315 – CDG 1855
AI 142 CDG 2200 – DEL 0935
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:57 am Post subject: |
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VT-ANJ (2nd SC built), was delivered today (01/02), and will leave CHS on Thursday (01/03).
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| 747-237 wrote: | | VT-ANJ (2nd SC built), was delivered today (01/02), and will leave CHS on Thursday (01/03). |
With this they would have 6 aircraft ?, when are we getting the first BFI built 787
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| Karan69 wrote: | | With this they would have 6 aircraft ?, when are we getting the first BFI built 787 |
That's correct. The first 2 were WA (BFI) built.
Air India's 787 fleet (sorted by delivery) at this time is as follows:
VT-ANH
VT-AND
VT-ANI (First SC Built)
VT-ANK (Third SC Built)
VT-ANL (Fourth SC Built)
VT-ANJ (Second SC Built)
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| They are built at PAE, not BFI. |
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Karan meant WA built as opposed to SC built.
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