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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:16 pm    Post subject: IndiGo News - Part 3 Reply with quote

IndiGo Domestic Service Increase from late-May 2013

Indian carrier IndiGo from 30MAY13 expands a number of domestic operations, which includes the following.

Chennai – Kochi NEW 4 weekly service
6E298 MAA0620 – 0730COK 320 x135
6E297 COK2130 – 2240MAA 320 x135

Chennai – Thiruvananthapuram Service increases from 7 to 10 weekly
6E346 MAA0620 – 0740TRV 320 135
6E347 TRV2135 – 2255MAA 320 135

Mumbai – Jammu – Srinagar
6E559 BOM1120 – 1350IXJ1420 – 1500SXR1530 – 1815BOM 320 D

Mumbai – Jammu sector = New Daily service
Jammu – Srinagar = Increase from 1 to 2 daily on outbound
Srinagar – Mumbai = Increase from 1 to 2 daily on outbound

Mumbai – Kochi Service increases from 14 to 18 weekly
6E297 BOM1855 – 2055COK 320 x135
6E298 COK0815 – 1020BOM 320 x135

Mumbai – Thiruvananthapuram Service increases from 7 to 10 weekly
6E347 BOM1855 – 2105TRV 320 135
6E346 TRV0810 – 1020BOM 320 135



Source: Airlineroute.net
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: IndiGo News - Part 3 Reply with quote

747-237 wrote:
IndiGo Domestic Service Increase from late-May 2013

Indian carrier IndiGo from 30MAY13 expands a number of domestic operations, which includes the following.

Chennai – Kochi NEW 4 weekly service
6E298 MAA0620 – 0730COK 320 x135
6E297 COK2130 – 2240MAA 320 x135

Chennai – Thiruvananthapuram Service increases from 7 to 10 weekly
6E346 MAA0620 – 0740TRV 320 135
6E347 TRV2135 – 2255MAA 320 135

Mumbai – Jammu – Srinagar
6E559 BOM1120 – 1350IXJ1420 – 1500SXR1530 – 1815BOM 320 D

Mumbai – Jammu sector = New Daily service
Jammu – Srinagar = Increase from 1 to 2 daily on outbound
Srinagar – Mumbai = Increase from 1 to 2 daily on outbound

Mumbai – Kochi Service increases from 14 to 18 weekly
6E297 BOM1855 – 2055COK 320 x135
6E298 COK0815 – 1020BOM 320 x135

Mumbai – Thiruvananthapuram Service increases from 7 to 10 weekly
6E347 BOM1855 – 2105TRV 320 135
6E346 TRV0810 – 1020BOM 320 135



Source: Airlineroute.net


What does it take for 6E to put the same flight number on the TRV-BOM and the BOM-SXR-IXJ sector? Do they need Govt approval for that.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: IndiGo News - Part 3 Reply with quote

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What does it take for 6E to put the same flight number on the TRV-BOM and the BOM-SXR-IXJ sector? Do they need Govt approval for that.


My guess is that it's more about the sectors that 6E wants to sell as "through". So if they want to sell TRV-SXR, then they can use the same flight number. But perhaps they've chosen to not sell through as a single fare, but want folks to buy 2 tickets and connect at BOM?
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: IndiGo News - Part 3 Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
justbala wrote:
What does it take for 6E to put the same flight number on the TRV-BOM and the BOM-SXR-IXJ sector? Do they need Govt approval for that.


My guess is that it's more about the sectors that 6E wants to sell as "through". So if they want to sell TRV-SXR, then they can use the same flight number. But perhaps they've chosen to not sell through as a single far, but want folks to buy 2 tickets and connect at BOM?


Hmm.. in that case if someone is travelling from say TRV to SXR, would they have to get down and clear security at BOM?
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: IndiGo News - Part 3 Reply with quote

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Hmm.. in that case if someone is travelling from say TRV to SXR, would they have to get down and clear security at BOM?


Yes - definitely. Unless they had the boarding pass in hand, and the bags were tagged through to SXR. In that case perhaps they have the option to stay put..
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: IndiGo News - Part 3 Reply with quote

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justbala wrote:
Hmm.. in that case if someone is travelling from say TRV to SXR, would they have to get down and clear security at BOM?


Yes - definitely. Unless they had the boarding pass in hand, and the bags were tagged through to SXR. In that case perhaps they have the option to stay put..


Have never done a transit on 6E. Do they offer through check in or do we have to check in separately?
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well its nothing to do with approval, its got to do with rules.

The same flight cannot arrive twice with the same flight number.

Since BOM-IXJ-SXR-BOM is a triangular same flight number flight, if TRV-BOM is also same as that, it would not be as per rules.

This was done to avoid confusion on sector from which it is arriving
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The same flight cannot arrive twice with the same flight number.


Any more details on this? Are you saying a one-stop flight is not allowed (as it will arrive at the first stop and the 2nd stop with the same flight number).
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
ameya wrote:
The same flight cannot arrive twice with the same flight number.


Any more details on this? Are you saying a one-stop flight is not allowed (as it will arrive at the first stop and the 2nd stop with the same flight number).


No, I think it means two arrivals (or departures) from the same city on the same flight number aren't allowed.

So, TRV-BOM-IXJ-SXR-BOM would be two arrivals at BOM on the same flight number (one from Trivandrum and one from Srinagar) on the same day.

I didn't realise there was such a rule, but it does make sense.

On the other hand, they could have kept TRV-BOM-IXJ-SXR as one flight number and SXR-BOM as another, but they must have their reasons not to.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jasepl wrote:
Nimish wrote:
ameya wrote:
The same flight cannot arrive twice with the same flight number.


Any more details on this? Are you saying a one-stop flight is not allowed (as it will arrive at the first stop and the 2nd stop with the same flight number).


No, I think it means two arrivals (or departures) from the same city on the same flight number aren't allowed.

So, TRV-BOM-IXJ-SXR-BOM would be two arrivals at BOM on the same flight number (one from Trivandrum and one from Srinagar) on the same day.

I didn't realise there was such a rule, but it does make sense.

On the other hand, they could have kept TRV-BOM-IXJ-SXR as one flight number and SXR-BOM as another, but they must have their reasons not to.


This is right, TRV and SXR arrival cannot be with same flight number.

Secondly, there will be a lot of pax who would do BOM-IXJ-SXR, IXJ-SXR-BOM, so if the flight is broken at BOM-IXJ-SXR, then the IXJ-BOM pax would have two different boarding cards, since their flight ends in SXR and SXR-BOM is a new segment, hence that's not the case from commercial perspective.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also possible to assign two flight numbers to one leg. Eg:

Flight 123 = MAA-COK-BOM-IXJ-SXR
Flight 124 = IXJ-SXR-BOM-COK-MAA

The IXJ-SXR leg will have two flight numbers.

That solves the boarding pass / single flight problem.

I want to say AF, KL, TG do it (or have done), but I don't recall for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jasepl wrote:
It's also possible to assign two flight numbers to one leg. Eg:

Flight 123 = MAA-COK-BOM-IXJ-SXR
Flight 124 = IXJ-SXR-BOM-COK-MAA

The IXJ-SXR leg will have two flight numbers.

That solves the boarding pass / single flight problem.

I want to say AF, KL, TG do it (or have done), but I don't recall for sure.


Two flight numbers for same leg is also not possible. How they could have possibly done it is, used one for operations which is totally different from the ones used for commercial.

Eg: If you are booking you see Flight 124 IXJ-SXR-BOM or SXR-BOM-COK.

While the flight is being filed it is filed as say Flight 901 MAA-COK-BOM / 902 BOM SXR IXJ BOM / 903 BOM-COK-MAA
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thai do it, that too in India. TG 327/8 routes BKK-GAY-VNS-BKK :

327 is BKK-GAY-VNS
328 is GAY-VNS-BKK

GAY-VNS is the overlapping leg.

So, like you said, operationally it can be whatever, but to the customer, it won't matter:

If flying BKK-GAY, you get one boarding pass for 327 (non-stop)
If flying BKK-VNS, you get one boarding pass for 327 (one-stop)
If flying GAY-BKK, you get one boarding pass for 328 (one-stop)
If flying VNS-BKK, you get one boarding pass for 328 (non-stop)
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ameya wrote:
jasepl wrote:
It's also possible to assign two flight numbers to one leg. Eg:

Flight 123 = MAA-COK-BOM-IXJ-SXR
Flight 124 = IXJ-SXR-BOM-COK-MAA

The IXJ-SXR leg will have two flight numbers.

That solves the boarding pass / single flight problem.

I want to say AF, KL, TG do it (or have done), but I don't recall for sure.


Two flight numbers for same leg is also not possible.


I have been on a TG flight that was doing BKK-SYD-BNE-BKK.The SYD-BNE leg had two flight numbers. I dont think that is a problem.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...this is turning out to be an interesting discussion.
Jason: a small point is that GAY-VNS cannot be sold as an option to passengers.
Ameya: G8 (yes! but of course, you know this) did this a bit surreptiously on their NDC-BOM-DEL connection (but was legally well within limits, given the rule you mention). They sold NDC-DEL as G8 212 itself, though the BOM-DEL leg was on the same plane, and went under the name G8 312 (IIRC) - we got two boarding cards at NDC, and were told by the G8 agent to keep quiet about this, perhaps for this reason. You remember this trip, right? You had asked me who the Captain was, who objected to my taking photographs from inside the plane!
http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/airlinersindia-ftopic10169.html
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sumantra wrote:
...this is turning out to be an interesting discussion.
Jason: a small point is that GAY-VNS cannot be sold as an option to passengers.
Ameya: G8 (yes! but of course, you know this) did this a bit surreptiously on their NDC-BOM-DEL connection (but was legally well within limits, given the rule you mention). They sold NDC-DEL as G8 212 itself, though the BOM-DEL leg was on the same plane, and went under the name G8 312 (IIRC) - we got two boarding cards at NDC, and were told by the G8 agent to keep quiet about this, perhaps for this reason. You remember this trip, right? You had asked me who the Captain was, who objected to my taking photographs from inside the plane!
http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/airlinersindia-ftopic10169.html
Cheers, Sumantra.


As for TG, they cannot sell GAY-VNS standalone so its all good for them.

G8-312 was the evening BOM-NDC-DEL

G8-212 connected to G8-334 a 10:30ish dep on BOM-DEL. It was the same a/c which arrived as G8-212 from NDC at 0950hrs and as you guessed it, you know the reason correctly of why the staff asked you to not speak much about the boarding pass.

SG does that too, Eg: STV connected to IXC/ATQ on two different flight numbers, its the same story.

Everybody knows it and at the same time no body knows it too !
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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G8-312 was the evening BOM-NDC-DEL
G8-212 connected to G8-334 a 10:30ish dep on BOM-DEL.

Ouch - I have realyl greyed. Yes, I checked the 2011 schedules once more to find my fading memory and even more rapidly-receding hairline agreeing on my getting senile. Thank you for the clarification!

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Everybody knows it and at the same time no body knows it too !
Ha ha!

More seriously Ameya, I was waiting for you to post your Russia report - if I post the last part of my Japan trip, and then you post yours immediately after, no one will read mine. Stark reality for me. Of what use is a lamp when the sun is out?
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IndiGo to go Daily on BOM-MCT eff 16th June
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As for TG, they cannot sell GAY-VNS standalone so its all good for them.


True. The logic works though. Traffic restrictions aside, the overlapping flight can (and has been) sold with the second flight number.

So if TG had the rights, they would sell GAY-VNS as TG 328. That way there's no confusion at the time of booking or at the airport, since all Gaya originating passengers would be on 328, regardless of destination.

Of course, there's the question of need. And I suspect the number of people wanting to fly from Trivandrum to Srinagar with two or three stops is probably between few and none. So Indigo likely don't need to bother.
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IndiGo says allowed to import 28 A320 aircraft

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/indigo-says-allowed-to-import-28-a320-aircraft_888472.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IndiGo expansion plan for the next 3-4 months

International
CCU-SIN
CCU-KTM
DEL-MCT
Not sure on bilaterals

Domestic
Launch of one confirmed new station - IXR to be connected from CCU/BOM/DEL/HYD/MAA progressively
Launch of one unconfirmed new station - IXE

CCU-PNQ direct flight
Possibility of CCU-GOI direct flight

Could add flights on DEL-BOM-DEL from 14x to 15x daily
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IndiGo expansion plan for the next 3-4 months
Domestic
Launch of one confirmed new station - IXR to be connected from CCU/BOM/DEL/HYD/MAA progressively
...
Could add flights on DEL-BOM-DEL from 14x to 15x daily


Wow - 15X daily on BOM-DEL? Massive! Perhaps it's time for them to take one of 9W's 333s on lease for this sector Smile. Convert it to all economy and pack em up...

Lots of focus on CCU evident in the next couple of months - good to see that instead of the normal BOM/DEL fixation (which is clearly for a reason though).

Looks like 6E wants to focus/ consolidate the domestic market before expanding willy-nilly on the international front. Hopefully this works out for them...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ameya wrote:
IndiGo expansion plan for the next 3-4 months

International
CCU-SIN
CCU-KTM
DEL-MCT
Not sure on bilaterals

Domestic
Launch of one confirmed new station - IXR to be connected from CCU/BOM/DEL/HYD/MAA progressively
Launch of one unconfirmed new station - IXE

CCU-PNQ direct flight
Possibility of CCU-GOI direct flight

Could add flights on DEL-BOM-DEL from 14x to 15x daily


CCU - PNQ is good thinking - have been wondering why nobody launched it yet
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bangalore wrote:
ameya wrote:
IndiGo expansion plan for the next 3-4 months

International
CCU-SIN
CCU-KTM
DEL-MCT
Not sure on bilaterals

Domestic
Launch of one confirmed new station - IXR to be connected from CCU/BOM/DEL/HYD/MAA progressively
Launch of one unconfirmed new station - IXE

CCU-PNQ direct flight
Possibility of CCU-GOI direct flight

Could add flights on DEL-BOM-DEL from 14x to 15x daily


CCU - PNQ is good thinking - have been wondering why nobody launched it yet


Slots have always been a problem in PNQ. Now there are too many one stops to CCU
6E operates two, one via MAA and other via CCU
SG operates one via DEL
S2 operates one via BLR

I think the fastest would be PNQ NAG CCU or PNQ HYD CCU in the one stop, which nobody has.

Lets see what timings they give for the non stop flight. THe most popular is the morning 5:55 dep of 6E via MAA and return the same way arr in PNQ at 2255
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Slots have always been a problem in PNQ. Now there are too many one stops to CCU
6E operates two, one via MAA and other via CCU


A one stop to CCU via CCU?!! Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justbala wrote:
ameya wrote:

Slots have always been a problem in PNQ. Now there are too many one stops to CCU
6E operates two, one via MAA and other via CCU


A one stop to CCU via CCU?!! Razz


Err sorry sir !
via AMD

On the other hand, 9W used to publish a schedule some time back, which showed their triangular flights as

DEL to DEL via IXU-HYD
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IndiGo expansion plan for the next 3-4 months


Launch of one unconfirmed new station - IXE



Happy to see that happen soon. Hopefully they will connect it with Dubai as well, since they are the 'unofficial capital of India' ! Twisted Evil
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I can confirm that IndiGO has claim on 2 slots in DXB.
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India's premiere airline, IndiGo, has slashed fares on the Mumbai-Muscat sector to OMR1 (excluding taxes) for a one-way journey, which may trigger a price war in this sector.

http://www.timesofoman.com/News/Article-17965.aspx
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[i]India's premiere airline, IndiGo

What rubbish. That honour belongs to Fibga.
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I forgot to mention this in my two TRs, so putting it here.

IndiGo has a flight instructions / safety manual and menu card in braille. I think it goes a long way in making life comfortable for visually challenged people.

I am not sure how many would eventually use it, but RESPECT to IndiGo for thinking something like this.

While I assume I have heard this announcement some time back as well, I forgot to write it in all my prev TRs with 6E
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I forgot to mention this in my two TRs, so putting it here.

IndiGo has a flight instructions / safety manual and menu card in braille. I think it goes a long way in making life comfortable for visually challenged people.

I am not sure how many would eventually use it, but RESPECT to IndiGo for thinking something like this.

While I assume I have heard this announcement some time back as well, I forgot to write it in all my prev TRs with 6E


It's not an expensive feat to pull off to be fair, I've seen it in elevators all the time.
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IndiGo is launching a new rotation

4th Daily BLR-PNQ-BLR

8th Daily BLR-BOM-BOM

3rd Daily BOM-IXC-BOM

Rotation as below
BLR-PNQ_BLR-BOM-IXC-BOM-BLR

I think it should do one more set of flights
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Indigo have withdrawn an A320 from the fleet. VT-INJ has left to join SAS.
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IndiGo have added a new A320 to the fleet today, as VT-IFO.
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IndiGo may face exodus of commanders to AirAsia

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IndiGo Airlines may lose a good chunk of its commanders to AirAsia India as around 100 of its pilots have applied for jobs with the proposed carrier, say sources.

Besides a hefty package that AirAsia India is offering to the pilots, there are other reasons, like better working conditions, for these pilots to move out, say Indigo sources.

“As many as 100 commanders have sought jobs with AirAsia India. And this is not only for higher packages, but also for better working conditions,” airline sources told PTI.

A text message sent to the IndiGo spokesman did not yield any response.

AirAsia, in collaboration with Tata Sons and Telestra TradePlace of Arun Bhatia, plans to launch a budget airline by the end of the year with its headquarters in Chennai.

AirAsia is expected to bring in competitive pricing in the domestic aviation market with its “nano” airfares and may pose a direct competition to IndiGo, which is the undisputed leader in the low-cost segment now.

Incidentally, both IndiGo and AirAsia, have Airbus operations.

IndiGo currently has around 1,000 pilots to operate its fleet of 66 Airbus planes. Out of these, nearly 60 per cent of them are commanders.

“An IndiGo commanders’ average take-home salary is around Rs 3.20-3.30 lakh a month, which is below the industry level.

As against this, AirAsia India is offering a take-home salary of Rs 4-4.20 lakh a month,” sources said.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it would affect 6E as such. AA is having a slow growth plan, besides pilots also generally don't like to move much, in this case to MAA.

Since there are many pilots at all ranks available in the market, thanks to KF, this looks like a planted news in Trash of India
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6E is likely to add a HYD RPR DEL SXR IXJ DEL RPR HYD rotation soon.

This might come up before its eminent launch of IXR.

The DEL-SXR-IXJ-DEL could well be DEL-SXR-DEL and the rotation would start from MAA, doing a MAA-HYD-RPR-DEL-SXR and v.v
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ameya wrote:
6E is likely to add a HYD RPR DEL SXR IXJ DEL RPR HYD rotation soon.

This might come up before its eminent launch of IXR.

The DEL-SXR-IXJ-DEL could well be DEL-SXR-DEL and the rotation would start from MAA, doing a MAA-HYD-RPR-DEL-SXR and v.v


People in STV are complaining, and are suggesting BOM-STV-BHU-DEL!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abhijith16 wrote:
ameya wrote:
6E is likely to add a HYD RPR DEL SXR IXJ DEL RPR HYD rotation soon.

This might come up before its eminent launch of IXR.

The DEL-SXR-IXJ-DEL could well be DEL-SXR-DEL and the rotation would start from MAA, doing a MAA-HYD-RPR-DEL-SXR and v.v


People in STV are complaining, and are suggesting BOM-STV-BHU-DEL!


Smile

Ask them to not come on road and demand flights but pay and fill them
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