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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:57 pm    Post subject: Transiting through LHR involving a terminal change Reply with quote

I booked myself on the BA A380 flight from IAD to BOM via LHR for the winter and flying back from BOM to ORD via LHR arriving at T5 and connecting to the AA flight to ORD from T3.

Would I require a transit visa as a terminal change is involved?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an airside transfer bus between all the terminals in LHR, so you would not need a transit visa to go between T5 and T3.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Transiting through LHR involving a terminal change Reply with quote

harshwcam3 wrote:
I booked myself on the BA A380 flight from IAD to BOM via LHR for the winter and flying back from BOM to ORD via LHR arriving at T5 and connecting to the AA flight to ORD from T3.

Would I require a transit visa as a terminal change is involved?


You definitely dont need a Visa . The inter terminal bus tranfer will help you .

With the recent change in UK transit laws for India Passport holders . If you have a valid onward ticket to the US or India within 24 hours of arrival into UK and a valid US Visa you get a visa on arrival and can exit the terminal too .
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: Transiting through LHR involving a terminal change Reply with quote

airbus340 wrote:

With the recent change in UK transit laws for India Passport holders . If you have a valid onward ticket to the US or India within 24 hours of arrival into UK and a valid US Visa you get a visa on arrival and can exit the terminal too .


Are you referring to the visitor-in-transit visa?

If so, it has to be applied for online and not upon arrival.

https://www.gov.uk/transit-visa/visitor-in-transit-visa
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:39 am    Post subject: Re: Transiting through LHR involving a terminal change Reply with quote

The_Goat wrote:
airbus340 wrote:

With the recent change in UK transit laws for India Passport holders . If you have a valid onward ticket to the US or India within 24 hours of arrival into UK and a valid US Visa you get a visa on arrival and can exit the terminal too .


Are you referring to the visitor-in-transit visa?

If so, it has to be applied for online and not upon arrival.

https://www.gov.uk/transit-visa/visitor-in-transit-visa


You can now Transit without a visa if you have a valid onward ticket to the US / India . Are in transit for less than 24 hours and have a valid US Visa .

No need to apply before hand . The UK goverment has changed these rules to encourage folk to stay in the UK while in transit .

I am not able to post a link but if you google Transit without Visa UK . You can find all the details there .

If you meet the requirements all you need to do is fill up a landing card on arrival and you can step out in the UK.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes UK has changed the rules, in fact you do not have be in transit within 24 hours, your connecting flight has to leave UK before midnight the next day, which means one can spend a night in UK. But this is only valid if you have US, Canada or EU visa or residency, not valid for if flying to Caribbean, Mexico or South America. If UK wanted to make transits easier they could have extended this to other flights too.

The only European carrier which has flights to India and South America where transit visa is not an issue is KLM as Netherlands does not need transit visas for connecting to any country for Indian citizens. There are other EU countries which do not require transit visas also, but they don't fly to India or offer many connecting flights.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iah87 wrote:

The only European carrier which has flights to India and South America where transit visa is not an issue is KLM as Netherlands does not need transit visas for connecting to any country for Indian citizens. There are other EU countries which do not require transit visas also, but they don't fly to India or offer many connecting flights.


Air France has a better network in South America than does KLM. Their coverage of India is better than KLM too. And Indians don't need transit visas in France.

But then that probably sums it up doesn't it. The bulk of Indian pax transiting the EU are headed to the US/Canada, and nobody cares for the few that may be going to other places.

Of course, with EK/QR/EY now expanding in South America, there are more choices available.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure about the transit visa exemption for Indians in France. According to their website this exemption is only for those who have EU US/Canada visa/residency.

Transit visa would be required in France if an Indian citizen would be travelling to Mexico. Recently a friend of mine who works in the IT industry mentioned to me that his coworker in India (an Indian citizen) had to travel to Mexico and KLM was the only airline which he could travel to Mexico without a transit visa. This person had no other valid unexpired visas. Apart from France - Germany, UK and Spain also require transit visas except when travelling to/from EU/US/Canada.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timatic is your friend in these instances

Transit rules for France (courtesy KVS Tool):

Code:
National India (IN)             /Embarkation India (IN)
Transit France (FR)             /Destination USA (US)
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW

[Visa Information - Transit] France (FR)

[Information For Normal Passports]
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Holders of onward tickets in transit
[[TIRULES/R32]] through Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG), Paris
Orly (ORY), Lyon (LYS), Marseille (MRS), Nice (NCE) or
Toulouse (TLS). provided holding a valid visa issued by
Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland (Rep.), Japan,
Romania, USA or United Kingdom, traveling to any non-Schengen
Member State; or
- returning from Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland
(Rep.), Japan, Romania, USA or United Kingdom after having
used the visa:
 - applicable to holders of normal passports or Merchant
   Seaman Books issued to nationals of India   .
- For transit rules in each location: [[TIDFT/FR/VI/NO]]
- WARNING: TWOV is not possible when arriving from a
  non-Schengen Member State AND departing to a Schengen Member
  State [[TIRULES/R34]]



[Health Information] France (FR)

Vaccinations not required.

[Visa Information - Destination] USA (US)

[Information For Normal Passports]
Passport required.
- Passports issued to nationals of India must be valid for the
  period of intended stay.
Passport Exemptions:
- Holders of a Form I-512 ( Authorization for Parole of an
  Alien into the United States").
- Holders of temporary or emergency passports.

Visa required, except for Holders of a Form I-512
( Authorization for Parole of an Alien into the United
States").
Minors:
- Children, up to/incl. 15 years of age, excluding nationals
  of the USA and nationals entitled to travel under the US
  Visa Waiver Program (V.W.P.), are allowed to travel on their
  parent's passport. A person included in the passport of
  another may not use the passport for travel unless he/she is
  accompanied by the passport holder.
- Minors traveling unaccompanied, or accompanied by one parent
  or a person other than parent/legal guardian,
  [[TIDFT/US/PA/MI/ID50367]].
Additional Information:
- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
  cover their stay and documents required for their next
  destination.
- A passenger may enter the USA with a valid visa in an
  expired passport, provided [[TIDFT/US/VI/AI/ID42974]]
- Beginning students holding "F", "J" or "M" student/exchange
  visitor visas [[TIDFT/US/VI/AI/ID49644]]
Warning:
- Passengers who have visited Guinea, Liberia or Sierra Leone
  within the last 21 days must enter the US at Atlanta (ATL),
  Chicago (ORD), Newark (EWR), New York (JFK) or Washington
  (IAD)  and are subject to screening and medical checks upon
  arrival.
- Visitors must hold return/onward tickets [[TIRULES/R38]].
  (SEE NOTE 46524)
    NOTE 46524: Exempt are holders of a valid US visa.



[Health Information] USA (US)

Vaccinations not required.

Warning:
- Those entering on a K-1 or K-2 visa must hold a medical form
  FS398 and X-ray plates of chest (full size not necessary).

CHECK [[TINEWS/N1]] - SIMPLIFICATION OF TIMATIC

09 Jul 2015 / 20:54 [UTC]


Transit rules for UK:

Code:
National India (IN)             /Embarkation India (IN)
Transit United Kingdom (GB)     /Destination USA (US)
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW

[Visa Information - Transit] United Kingdom (GB)

[Information For Normal Passports]
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Passengers holding confirmed onward
tickets making an airside transit at London Gatwick (LGW),
London Heathrow (LHR) or Manchester (MAN) on the same calendar
day to a third country (excluding Ireland (Rep.)).The
following conditions must be complied with:
- passenger must arrive and depart by air; and
- passenger only intends to transit through the United
Kingdom; and
- passenger must hold all documents required for the next
destination; and
- passenger must not leave the transit area; and
- passenger travels with a document listed in the following
warning(s):
 - ***Warning*** Passengers may make an airside transit if
   holding a valid entry visa issued by Australia, Canada, New
   Zealand or USA. (SEE NOTE 57398)
     NOTE 57398: E-visas or e-residence permits are only
    accepted for airside transit when the airline is able to
    verify it with the issuing country.
 - ***Warning*** Passengers may make a airside transit if
   holding a valid "D" visa issued by an EEA Member State
   [[TIRGL/EEA]] or Switzerland. (SEE NOTE 57398)
     NOTE 57398: E-visas or e-residence permits are only
    accepted for airside transit when the airline is able to
    verify it with the issuing country.
 - ***Warning*** Passengers may make an airside transit if
   holding a valid biometric visa issued by Ireland (Rep.)
   endorsed "BC" or "BC BIVS" in order to transit to a
   destination other than Ireland (Rep.). (SEE NOTE 57398)
     NOTE 57398: E-visas or e-residence permits are only
    accepted for airside transit when the airline is able to
    verify it with the issuing country.
Visa required, except for Passengers holding confirmed onward
tickets passing through United Kingdom immigration to make a
landside transit to a third country on a flight that departs
before 23:59 the next day. The following conditions must be
complied with:
- passenger must arrive and depart by air; and
- passenger must have no purpose in entering the United
Kingdom other than to pass through in transit; and
- passenger must hold all documents required for the next
destination; and
- passenger must pass through United Kingdom Immigration; and
- passenger travels with a document listed in the following
warning(s):
 - ***Warning*** Passengers may make a landside transit if
   holding a valid visa which allows entry into Australia,
   Canada, New Zealand or USA and traveling as part of a
   journey to, from or transit through the country that has
   issued the visa.
   Landside transit is not available if holding a US Visa Foil
   type "YY" or "ZZ" endorsed "Not a visa. Foil prepared at
   DHS request" nor the US Adit stamp worded "Processed for
   I-551" (temporary form I-551).
  - Not applicable to nationals of Syria.
 - ***Warning*** Passengers may make a landside transit if
   holding a valid common format "D" visa issued by an EEA
   Member State [[TIRGL/EEA]] or Switzerland. (SEE NOTE 57399)
     NOTE 57399: E-visas or e-residence permits are not
    accepted for landside transit.
 - ***Warning*** Passengers may make a landside transit if
   holding a valid biometric visa issued by Ireland (Rep.)
   endorsed "BC" or "BC BIVS" and traveling to Ireland (Rep.).
   (SEE NOTE 57399)
     NOTE 57399: E-visas or e-residence permits are not
    accepted for landside transit.
Additional Information:
- There is no passport control on traffic between Great
  Britain and Northern Ireland and Ireland (Rep.).
  [[TIDFT/GB/VI/AI/ID42984]]
- Leave to remain issued by Guernsey, Isle of Man or Jersey,
  which are in the form of wet ink stamps, are also valid for
  entry into or transit through the United Kingdom.



[Health Information] United Kingdom (GB)

Vaccinations not required.

[Visa Information - Destination] USA (US)

[Information For Normal Passports]
Passport required.
- Passports issued to nationals of India must be valid for the
  period of intended stay.
Passport Exemptions:
- Holders of a Form I-512 ( Authorization for Parole of an
  Alien into the United States").
- Holders of temporary or emergency passports.

Visa required, except for Holders of a Form I-512
( Authorization for Parole of an Alien into the United
States").
Minors:
- Children, up to/incl. 15 years of age, excluding nationals
  of the USA and nationals entitled to travel under the US
  Visa Waiver Program (V.W.P.), are allowed to travel on their
  parent's passport. A person included in the passport of
  another may not use the passport for travel unless he/she is
  accompanied by the passport holder.
- Minors traveling unaccompanied, or accompanied by one parent
  or a person other than parent/legal guardian,
  [[TIDFT/US/PA/MI/ID50367]].
Additional Information:
- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
  cover their stay and documents required for their next
  destination.
- A passenger may enter the USA with a valid visa in an
  expired passport, provided [[TIDFT/US/VI/AI/ID42974]]
- Beginning students holding "F", "J" or "M" student/exchange
  visitor visas [[TIDFT/US/VI/AI/ID49644]]
Warning:
- Passengers who have visited Guinea, Liberia or Sierra Leone
  within the last 21 days must enter the US at Atlanta (ATL),
  Chicago (ORD), Newark (EWR), New York (JFK) or Washington
  (IAD)  and are subject to screening and medical checks upon
  arrival.
- Visitors must hold return/onward tickets [[TIRULES/R38]].
  (SEE NOTE 46524)
    NOTE 46524: Exempt are holders of a valid US visa.



[Health Information] USA (US)

Vaccinations not required.

Warning:
- Those entering on a K-1 or K-2 visa must hold a medical form
  FS398 and X-ray plates of chest (full size not necessary).

CHECK [[TINEWS/N1]] - SIMPLIFICATION OF TIMATIC

09 Jul 2015 / 20:57 [UTC]

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