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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ANd the new rotation eff sept first week

BLR GOI BLR IXC SXR IXC BLR TRV BLR



So 6E is now double daily on BLR-TRV. And finaly a late nite departure from TRV Wink
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ANd the new rotation eff sept first week

BLR GOI BLR IXC SXR IXC BLR TRV BLR


Maybe 6E and I5 can merge their flights on low traffic days Wink?


I think Tony is going to go double daily on BLR-IXC within the next 4 months. Please save this message, we will discuss again then !
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IndiGo flight 6E-176 from Mumbai to Delhi with 147 passengers and 6 crew members made a normal landing this afternoon at Delhi airport. The aircraft touched down in Delhi on runway 27 at 1535 pm.

As soon as the Captain got the information about the dense smoke from the ATC tower, he immediately ordered the crew to evacuate all passengers in the interest of passengers and crew safety. The evacuation was done on taxi way after safely landing the aircraft.

All the passengers were evacuated by all the right hand side slide-chute and one left hand side slide chute in approximately 75 seconds.

We confirm that all passengers and crew members are safe and have been taken to the terminal building.

Some of the passengers who suffered minor injuries during evacuation were given medical attention and taken care of by our airport team as well as five members of our FAC (Family Assistance and Care) team members. They have all left for their homes already.

Further investigations are underway.

Safety of all its passengers and crew is of utmost importance to IndiGo and there is absolutely no compromise on safety.




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was the source of the smoke.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently smoke from the brakes. If it turns out to be true, I'll be glad that this happened to point out how ruthlessly their pilots brake to 'save' time. There is only that much cooling the brake fans can provide.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Indigo Airbus A320-200, registration VT-IFK performing flight 6E-176 from Mumbai to Delhi (India) with 147 passengers and 6 crew, landed on Delhi's runway 27 and rolled out without obvious incident when the crew of fire truck on an adjacent airport road called in reporting dense smoke from the left hand main gear of the aircraft. The aircraft stopped on an adjacent taxiway, the crew initiated an emergency evacuation via slides.

http://avherald.com/h?article=47917389&opt=0
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/IndiGo-to-take-12-planes-on-lease-from-Tigerair/articleshow/40643668.cms

IndiGo to take 12 planes on lease from Tigerair

Aug 22, 2014

IndiGo, India's largest airline in terms of domestic carriage, is taking on lease two planes every month from Singapore-based Tigerair from October to next March — which means adding 12 new planes to its current fleet of 79 by the end of this fiscal.

While IndiGo refused to comment, sources say the LCC is eying to have as many slots as possible at busy airports next summer. The fleet is being expanded at a time when the budget airline is expected to launch its IPO, which means it will get funds for expansion. The airline has now become eligible for FDI too as its promoter's FDI holding is being converted to NRI holding, freeing up the 49% space that can be held by foreign airlines or FIIs.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Whoa - this is a massive change in their strategy - sudden spurt in capacity. Seems like they're spooked by I5/ UK or is it SG that's sending shivers down 6E's spine?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's in addition to having factory fresh planes come in from Airbus. Their strategy with those is to sell and lease back and eventually hand them back after six years in service.

I wonder how that changes with these Tiger Air planes.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's in addition to having factory fresh planes come in from Airbus. Their strategy with those is to sell and lease back and eventually hand them back after six years in service.

I wonder how that changes with these Tiger Air planes.


This is nothing but an indication of how much Indigo feels threatened by Air Asia and Vistara .

It all boils down to cost discipline and that is what helps airlines offer cheap fares . Indigo is doing an Emirates here by adding massive amounts of capacity .

I5 has an awesome deal of Bangalore Airport and hence they moved from MAA to BLR ... 6E doesn't . On its part 6E has economies of scale .

I5 for the time being is not after the business traffic . They sell point to point seats now and will very soon start selling thru flights not just within India but also onto the huge Air Asia network to S E Asia and Australia .

They might not have rapid connections but they will be price conscious and that fills up planes .

6E over the years has ruled the roost as there was no True Low Cost Carrier in India . Now with Air Asia around , they feel they need to flood the market with capacity and will chase the new entrants away .

On Air Asia and Vistara' s part , i am sure they saw this coming and have factored this into their business plans .

6E will feel the heat in the North from Vistara as they will price their full service economy product competitively and in the south the big 6E and I5 showdown has just started .
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IndiGo loses up to 40 commanders in past 12 months: report
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IndiGo has reportedly lost up to 40 commanders, mainly to Gulf carriers, in the past 12 months (PTI, 25-Aug-2014). The migration reportedly accounts for nearly 10% of the carrier's commanders. Of the carrier's around 900 pilots, half of them are commanders.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IndiGo loses up to 40 commanders in past 12 months: report
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IndiGo has reportedly lost up to 40 commanders, mainly to Gulf carriers, in the past 12 months (PTI, 25-Aug-2014). The migration reportedly accounts for nearly 10% of the carrier's commanders. Of the carrier's around 900 pilots, half of them are commanders.


40 of 450 => less than 10% - nothing much in reality.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apparently smoke from the brakes. If it turns out to be true, I'll be glad that this happened to point out how ruthlessly their pilots brake to 'save' time. There is only that much cooling the brake fans can provide.


No BTIS [Brake temperature indication system] installed.......or was it a malfunction.....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New flights eff 10 Oct

6E 607 DEL VTZ 0620 0820
6E 608 VTZ HYD 0900 1005
6E 608 HYD BOM 1035 1155
6E 609 BOM HYD 1230 1355
6E 611 HYD VTZ 1655 1805
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^^ Telangana special Wink?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Indigo to go double daily on CCU BKK from 16SEP

The new flight is

6E 75 CCU BKK 1025 1440
6E 76 BKK CCU 1545 1655


The start date is changed to 26SEP.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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New flights eff 10 Oct

6E 607 DEL VTZ 0620 0820
6E 608 VTZ HYD 0900 1005
6E 608 HYD BOM 1035 1155
6E 609 BOM HYD 1230 1355
6E 611 HYD VTZ 1655 1805
6E 610 VTZ DEL 1835 2045


Where does it go from 13:55 to 16:55?!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justbala wrote:
ameya wrote:
New flights eff 10 Oct

6E 607 DEL VTZ 0620 0820
6E 608 VTZ HYD 0900 1005
6E 608 HYD BOM 1035 1155
6E 609 BOM HYD 1230 1355
6E 611 HYD VTZ 1655 1805
6E 610 VTZ DEL 1835 2045


Where does it go from 13:55 to 16:55?!


Either the aircraft sits in HYD for 3 hours or heads elsewhere with another bird taking over the rotation 6E 611 onwards,
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this 3 hr gap at HYD as odd. If it was just sitting there, it is better to sit at VTZ or even back in DEL, where they can do some maintenance or rotation. Any BOM to VTZ passengers via HYD will have to wait for 3 hours now instead of 30 to 40 minutes and it is difficult to market this flight as a one stop from BOM to VTZ.

Instead of Telangana, it is more like Andhra special as VTZ is now in Andhra Pradesh.
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IndiGo have added a new A320 to the fleet today, as VT-IAQ.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/IndiGo-launches-16-new-flights/articleshow/41341662.cms

IndiGo launches 16 new flights

Aug 31, 2014

Adding on to its domestic market leadership, IndiGo, India's largest low-cost airline, announced 8 new daily non-stop flights connecting Bangalore, Kolkata, Kochi and Hyderabad.

Effective August 28, 2014, IndiGo will launch a daily non-stop flight between Kochi-Kolkata via Bangalore, a second daily flight between Kochi-Hyderabad via Bangalore, and a third daily non-stop flight between Kochi-Bangalore.

The new schedule also introduces 6th daily non-stop flight between Kolkata-Bangalore and 7th daily non-stop flight between Hyderabad and Bangalore.

From September 01, IndiGo its first daily non-stop flight between Bangalore and Chandigarh, Chandigarh-Srinagar and 2nd daily non-stop flight between Bangalore-Goa & Bangalore-Trivandrum.

Aditya Ghosh, President and Executive Director, IndiGo said, "IndiGo has always promoted offers and connectivity that add immense value to our passengers' travel in addition to a great flying experience. It is our constant endeavour to provide more flexibility and choice for our customers as IndiGo continues to offer them on time, hassle free, always affordable and the best flying experiences.

Enhancing customer experience, IndiGo in June introduced its 'Advance Pass' service. Under the free of charge service, the passenger will be checked in and receive the boarding pass in their mail inbox 48 hours prior to the departure at no extra charges. The passengers can also drop their bags at the bag drop counters which are available at major airports.

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Air India and IndiGo push for continuation of 5/20 norms for international operations
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Air India chairman and MD Rohit Nandan and IndiGo president Aditya Ghosh met with India's Civil Aviation Minister Ashok Gajapathi Raju Pusapati on 08-Sep-2014 to push for the continuation of the 5/20 norms for international operations (Economic Times, 10-Sep-2014). IndiGo reportedly said that the changes would benefit two new carriers in the market, namely AirAsia India and Vistara, while IndiGo had to operate domestically for five years prior to operating internationally. Air India is reportedly also of the view that the eligibility norms should not be completely abolished, but can be relaxed. The carrier is reportedly of the view that any airline needs to prove itself in the domestic market prior to operating internationally.
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With limited international presence, I wonder why 6E wants to push continuation of that rule. This is just to trouble others. 6E has presence only in DXB so to say
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With limited international presence, I wonder why 6E wants to push continuation of that rule. This is just to trouble others. 6E has presence only in DXB so to say



Because I had to suffer, therefore you must suffer too.

"He (IndiGo's president Aditya Ghosh) said that the vennorms should not be abolished because IndiGo had to fly domestic for five years to be allowed to fly international. If the rules are relaxed now, it would seem that they are being relaxed for the two new carriers — AirAsia India and Vistara," the person added.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/government-may-relax-eligibility-rule-5/20-for-domestic-airlines-to-fly-on-international-routes/articleshow/42128420.cms
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What is the 'lounge' that 6E is offering as an add-on in most domestic airports? Has anybody here used them prior to their flight?
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With limited international presence, I wonder why 6E wants to push continuation of that rule. This is just to trouble others. 6E has presence only in DXB so to say

In 3 to 5 years 6e can significantly expand their international reach particularly with the neos coming in.. Makes sense for them to maintain that advantage
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Fair enough if they want to be consistent about implementing that rule across eras, but it's ridiculous how little known start-ups like RAK Airways and such, with a handful of leased aircraft in their fleet can establish their reach into the country but not the other way around.
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If they can extend the 5 /20 rule to foreign carriers as well, with existing carriers being exempt, then it would be level playing field.

Also, why are Jet and Spicejet are not objecting to this relaxation as well.
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IndiGo changes seats to Dragonfly from SICMA Aero
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IndiGo has reportedly recently changed its seats to the Dragonfly from SICMA Aero, which manufactures and sells aircraft seats under the ZODIAC Aerospace Group (theflyingengineer.com, 10-Sep-2014). On the ZODIAC website, it describes the Dragonfly seat as: "The lightest and most efficient economy seat on the market that delivers unequaled value". The airline previously had the model ‘5600’ seats from Weber seats. The new seats are reportedly thinner and lights, and offer between one and two inches of extra legroom. The lighter will reportedly reduced around 700kg from the aircraft’s operating empty weight.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/17/indigo-china-idUSL3N0RI36V20140917

IndiGo agrees $2.6 bln aircraft finance deal with China's ICBC

Sep 17, 2014

IndiGo has signed a $2.6 billion deal with Industrial and Commercial Bank of China Ltd (ICBC) for the lender to finance more than 30 new aircraft, the carrier said in a statement on Wednesday.

Under the memorandum of understanding, ICBC will provide IndiGo, India's largest airline by market share, with financing for the planes through either a sale and leaseback, financial lease or commercial lending deal, IndiGo President Aditya Ghosh said in the statement.

Privately owned IndiGo said it will use the deal to add Airbus A320 planes to its fleet.


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If they can extend the 5 /20 rule to foreign carriers as well, with existing carriers being exempt, then it would be level playing field.

Eeerrrrrrr the solution to having an idiotic rule cant be to make everyone follow the idiotic rule Rolling Eyes
(and no it still wouldn't be a level playing field whatever that means .....)
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If they can extend the 5 /20 rule to foreign carriers as well, with existing carriers being exempt, then it would be level playing field.

Eeerrrrrrr the solution to having an idiotic rule cant be to make everyone follow the idiotic rule Rolling Eyes
(and no it still wouldn't be a level playing field whatever that means .....)


I think what iah87 meant was that if an Indian carrier cannot fly abroad due to the 5/20 rule, then upstart airlines based abroad which are less than 5 years old and have fewer than 20 aircraft should also not be allowed to fly to India. So the same rule would apply to Indian and foreign carriers thereby 'levelling the playing field', in a manner of speaking.

Although it actually won't make an iota of difference, apart from keeping small players like Afghanistan's Safi Airways and Bangladesh's United Airways out of India. The biggest competitors for Indian carriers are well established airlines, all of whom have more than 20 aircraft and have been flying for more than 5 years.
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stealthpilot wrote:
iah87 wrote:
If they can extend the 5 /20 rule to foreign carriers as well, with existing carriers being exempt, then it would be level playing field.

Eeerrrrrrr the solution to having an idiotic rule cant be to make everyone follow the idiotic rule Rolling Eyes
(and no it still wouldn't be a level playing field whatever that means .....)


I think what iah87 meant was that if an Indian carrier cannot fly abroad due to the 5/20 rule, then upstart airlines based abroad which are less than 5 years old and have fewer than 20 aircraft should also not be allowed to fly to India. So the same rule would apply to Indian and foreign carriers thereby 'levelling the playing field', in a manner of speaking.

Although it actually won't make an iota of difference, apart from keeping small players like Afghanistan's Safi Airways and Bangladesh's United Airways out of India. The biggest competitors for Indian carriers are well established airlines, all of whom have more than 20 aircraft and have been flying for more than 5 years.


Which major country in the world requires 5 years to fly international? Either the airline is safe or it isn't. What is an airline "proving" in 5 years that makes you say they fly intentional but fly all you want domestic? The fact that Indigo can ask the rule to be kept just shows that Indian companies cannot get out of their own way. Airlines should be pushing for less govt meddling and some form of protection against ME3. Instead they don't say anything about the ME3 and just scream bloody murder to get rules to hurt domestic comp. So insanely stupid.
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Which major country in the world requires 5 years to fly international? Either the airline is safe or it isn't. What is an airline "proving" in 5 years that makes you say they fly intentional but fly all you want domestic? The fact that Indigo can ask the rule to be kept just shows that Indian companies cannot get out of their own way. Airlines should be pushing for less govt meddling and some form of protection against ME3. Instead they don't say anything about the ME3 and just scream bloody murder to get rules to hurt domestic comp. So insanely stupid.


Yes it is insanely stupid. But like it or not, the 5/20 rule is in place and Indian carriers must deal with it.

and since the Government, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to keep the rule, they might as well be more consistent and apply it to everyone and not just Indian carriers.
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and since the Government, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to keep the rule, they might as well be more consistent and apply it to everyone and not just Indian carriers.

That's the point I was getting at, the solution to an idiotic rule cannot be to make everyone follow it. Instead of 'living with it and apply it to everyone else' it should be thrown in the dustbin!
I knew what he meant by level playing field but it doesn't work like that. If India (as you said in their infinite wisdom) applies this rule to foreign carriers who will it affect? Just the consumers- it wont help our older airlines much.

The rule was to protect AI and 9W. That's it. Nothing more. I'm alarmed at the number of people who think the solution is to apply it to foreign carriers because 'o well it can't be changed it's here to stay yada yada'
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If I was Indigo I would do the same thing, defend the current rule. Indigo is now the only profitable airline and they don't want Vistara or Air Asia India to take away customers from the international market. India now has ample competition on all sectors.

An example of applying the 5 year rule evenly would have affected FlyDubai and may be Air Arabia, so it does affect Indian carriers.
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If I was Indigo I would do the same thing, defend the current rule. Indigo is now the only profitable airline and they don't want Vistara or Air Asia India to take away customers from the international market. India now has ample competition on all sectors.

An example of applying the 5 year rule evenly would have affected FlyDubai and may be Air Arabia, so it does affect Indian carriers.


I totally disagree with you. India is not a two bit state like Russia with govt cronies in business. If Modi (and REAL LEGIT businesses) want doing business in India to be easier they have to be against stupid govt meddling in the free market. You can't say you like it when it works for you and against it when it doesn't. That's why India and Indian aviation has become such a joke. Everyone (from airlines to their employees) are so myopic that they don't even look at the big picture. Indian aviation needs a HUGE overall. No airline will every succeed under these conditions of govt meddling, high taxes and crazy defacto open skies with ME3. If anyone thinks Indigo will survive if they can just get GOI to extend the 5/20 rule I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Although it actually won't make an iota of difference, apart from keeping small players like Afghanistan's Safi Airways and Bangladesh's United Airways out of India. The biggest competitors for Indian carriers are well established airlines, all of whom have more than 20 aircraft and have been flying for more than 5 years.


How about the FlyDubais of this world?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IndiGo have added a new A320 to the fleet today, as VT-IAR.
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