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ameya · Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject:

Its not that wierd. The Summer schedule ends on 28th Oct and hence majority of flights are loaded till then.

In Winter progresively they will be back with all the capacity.

All said and then, SG now tries a route for 15-21 days and changes it. If somebody has kept a track of Q400 network changes in south, we would get a disastrous picture.

Luckily in the north, they are underutilized and have not seen any changes

abhijith16 · Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:14 pm Post subject:

^^^

So does that mean, if SG thinks that these are profitable, then they will continue these flights through to the winter season? Isn't the winter season weak in India?

I totally agree with Devesh, 9W and SG should kill off IT between BLR-HBX
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747-237 · Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:21 am Post subject:

http://www.livemint.com/2012/08/27203834/SpiceJet-to-start-flights-to-C.html?atype=tp

SpiceJet to start flights to China, Riyadh by October

Aug 28 2012

SpiceJet Ltd will start flights to China by October as the low-fare carrier expands its global footprint. Indian carriers haven’t been too successful with flights to the Chinese mainland. Jet Airways (India) Ltd, which started flights to Shanghai in June 2008, stopped them in January 2009. State-run Air India Ltd also flies to Shanghai.

The Kalanithi Maran-owned SpiceJet is planning to start flights to Guangzhou from Delhi with its Boeing 737 planes. This is likely to be followed with flights from Delhi to Riyadh and Dhaka. The flight to the Bangladeshi capital, yet to be cleared by the aviation ministry, may be extended to Yangon in Myanmar, depending on government clearance. The carrier is also looking to connect Thiruvananthapuram with Male, the capital of the Maldives, using its short-haul Bombardier Q400 turboprop aircraft, said two officials at the airline who declined to be named.

“All by end of October,” said one of the officials, referring to the start of these flights. He declined to be named.

SpiceJet started a Delhi-Kabul flight in August and is focusing on newer markets to expand its base.

“Yangon will be a bit slow in the beginning, but just see the number of airlines that have started flights there this year,” said a senior official with a foreign airline who follows SpiceJet closely, and who spoke on condition that neither he nor his firm is named. The airline’s other international destinations are Dubai and Colombo.

SpiceJet was going for a so-called blue ocean strategy, developing new markets instead of trying for a share of established markets, the executive said. Rival low-fare carrier IndiGo has, meanwhile, been expanding flights to Dubai from several Indian cities.

“What a company should do depends on its own strengths, the position of its competitors and, to some extent, on customers,” the executive said. “IndiGo has already decided to compete in the established Middle East and Southeast Asian markets, and they have a huge cost advantage over the others. Therefore, Spice’s strategy makes a tremendous amount of sense.”

Budget airlines SpiceJet and IndiGo started international flights in the last two years after they completed five years of compulsory domestic flying.

Mumbai-based budget airline GoAir, which has also completed five years but does not meet the requirement of having at least 20 aircraft in its fleet, has sought government exemption to fly overseas.

Keyur Joshi, chief commercial officer of online travel firm MakeMyTrip.com Ltd, commended SpiceJet’s choice of destination in China.

“Guangzhou is a big SME (small and medium enterprise) and trader market and lacks connectivity with India. It would be a winner straight away. It’s more like Hong Kong than China,” Joshi said. “I will be shocked if it doesn’t succeed.”

Connecting China and Africa via Delhi would be a sound strategy for Indian carriers, he said. As for Yangon, fliers may prefer a full-service airline with a wider global network.

SpiceJet is also starting flights from stations in India such as Jabalpur in Madhya Pradesh, previously served by Kingfisher Airlines Ltd. The financially strapped airline has been cutting services drastically since 2011. It’s not clear how the parallel expansion in both regional and international routes will affect SpiceJet’s balance sheet.

“SpiceJet’s financial performance continues to be impacted at a net level by its regional Q400 operations which commenced in Sep-2011 and, as a result, are still in the development stage and are yet to turn profitable,” consulting firm Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation said in a report.

While expanding internationally was a good strategy for the carrier, the “decision to launch its newest international route to Dubai in the summer months, when point-to-point traffic is at its lowest, is also likely to weigh down its Q2 results, and could have been better timed”.
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Karan69 · Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 1334

Its good to see SJ do something different than the Mundane circus of starting routes chosen by Indian airlines

I assume the series will be most likely from DEL , so DEL should be

DEL-KBL
DEL-KTM
DEL-DAC-RGN
DEL-CAN
DEL-RUH
DEL-DXB

However for the TRV-MLE flight do they have a significant bank at TRV to feed traffic especially from the major metro cities like BOM DEL BLR MAA HYD etc

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nadarji · Member Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 305

I believe there is enough O&D for SG to go after. IC used to run a full flight, without even business class availability a couple of days before travel date. With Q2 in the mix now, tickets are not that difficult.

Maledives has a consulate in TRV, and TRV is the place Maldivians come for their medical needs.

15a · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Bangalore

http://m.timesofindia.com/business/india-business/Spice-Jet-mulling-to-start-Surat-Bangalore-flight/articleshow/15895800.cms

Is this going to be stv bom ixe blr ?
Ouch ! Talk of a milk run

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15a · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Bangalore

I have no issues with running the route with the same flight number since it will help to sell the via destination (eg in this case del bom via stv) but marketing stv blr via bom and ixe is a real stretch. No different from 9ws infamous IXC ccu via 3 stops. The current champion on that is 9w with IXC maa via jai idr rpr hyd. Anybody taking that has too much time

ameya · Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject:

Dharamshala, Udaipur would be next in line for expansion in the north and

Hubli , Belgaum in the south

All Q400 network

abhijith16 · Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject:

The_Goat · Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject:

Spicejet to start Madurai-Colombo with Bombardier Q400!

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/spicejet-to-launch-international-flights-from-madurai/articleshow/15944058.cms

Very impressive out of the box thinking by SG. They should also look into
Madurai -KUL
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ameya · Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:44 am Post subject:

SG has suddenly started selling BOM-IXC-BOM 1 daily flight.

Whats wrong with this airline ? Going the KF way !

BOM-JAI-BOM flight to operate to IXC instead of JAI is the plan

Flight in the afternoon

Nimish · Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:54 am Post subject:

^^ They must have been feeling left out of the spate of recent IXC connections, and decided to join the fray Smile

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ameya · Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:02 am Post subject:

So I guess, IXC is the only tier 2 city to be connected from BOM by all private carriers now.

Apart from DEL-IXJ/SXR/GAU which is kinda mandatory, there are not many routes to have such a record.

Good for the punjabis ! the fares have been fairly high due to limited capacity.. Balle Balle time !

Only if they can increase the watch hours by pushing IAF towards it and aquire more land for 1 more bay... currently IXC can handle only 2.5 planes at a time

sri_bom · Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore

SpiceJet seeking approval for Macau service, could start as soon as Nov-2012

3-Sep-12 12:06 PM

Macau International Airport Company Limited (CAM) stated (31-Aug-2012) it took part in a visit to Government of India's Civil Aviation Department in New Delhi from 27-29-Aug-2012 to "explore the route development opportunity in relation to the flight frequency and capacity between two cities and to expedite the air service establishment in near future". As part of this, CAM held discussions with SpiceJet CEO Neils Mills, urging the carrier to launch service between India and Macau. Mr Mills said a "flight application was already submitted to the Government of India and upon the approval, operation could start as soon as in November, with the initial flight frequency of 3 times weekly, operating between New Delhi and Macau." In 2011, Macau received 170,000 visitors from India, a 57% increase from 2009 levels.

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jasepl · Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay

Excellent is this happens.

ameya · Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:21 am Post subject:

Any idea if THAI is stil operating to Phuket ? The reason of asking it here is , Macau is very similar to Phuket in terms of traffic potential - indians, connectivity, etc

aeroblogger · Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:39 am Post subject:

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747-237 · Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject:

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Caliguy · Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject:

Macau is just a day trip form HKG for most Indians (and non-Chinease, SE Asian tourists). HOw many of those people spend even one night in Macau or fly into the airport. If airport fees are very cheap in Macau, I can see some tourists and traders flying into Macau and then taking the ferry to HKG (but it would obviously need to be cheap enough)

rajeev.jaya · Member Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 193 Location: Chennai

News that SG to planning to fly to BKK from DEL, BOM and HYD.
WHen are they starting.
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abhijith16 · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject:

Spicejet has started recruiting from Belgaum and Hubli, may commence flight operations soon.
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ameya · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:12 am Post subject:

Spicejet is cancelling the Pune Ahmedabad Pune connection

Currently the flight operates BLR PNQ AMD JAI and comes back the same way late at night, It would operate BLR PNQ JAI and come back in the evening.

Essentially, DEL-PNQ-DEL frequency would be reduced by 2 daily flight.

The much hyped PNQ-COK stands cancelled

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rajeev.jaya · Member Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 193 Location: Chennai

PNQ- DEL can logically support 2 daily flights with the huge capacity available on this route.
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rajeev.jaya · Member Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 193 Location: Chennai

Low-cost carrier SpiceJet will begin a daily service to the Saudi Arabian capital Riyadh from its hub in Delhi by October, the airline’s head told Arabian Business.

The Chennai-based carrier, which launched its third international service to Dubai in June, will also begin flying to the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou around the same time, CEO Neil Mills confirmed on Wednesday, following media reports last month.

“We’ve got Guangzhou in China and Riyadh in Saudi Arabia coming next,” he said. “They should be done by the end of September but certainly October." The Delhi-Riyadh route will be served by one of SpiceJet's Boeing 737 aircraft.

Mills added that the Dubai service, which flies from both Mumbai and New Delhi was “performing just fine”. “The weakness that everybody said was on that route, we’ve not seen. With the product that we offer and the pricing that we offer, there’s been a lot of demand on that route,” Mills said, adding that were currently no plans to increase capacity on the service.

Mills said SpiceJet was currently not assessing any other Gulf routes. “Not at the moment. Certainly not for this season, but we may look next season," he commented.

He added that the airline had applied for "another eight to ten routes... on an international basis," but did not disclose where as the carrier was still negotiating with the Indian civil aviation authorities. "Let’s see what response we get from [Indian] authorities before we start looking at the challenges at the other end," Mills said.

What would the other 8 to 10 routes being talked about
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abhijith16 · Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:47 pm Post subject:

rajeev.jaya · Member Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 193 Location: Chennai

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The decision of Delhi International Airport Ltd (DIAL) to raise airport and user development charges steeply has found its first casualty in low-cost carrier SpiceJet, which has postponed the delivery of three of the seven Bombardier Q 400 aircraft it was to receive.

The airline had planned to make Delhi its hub for the three aircraft, from where it would fly various destinations in the North, but it says the raised charges made it change its mind.

To a question on how the increase in airport charges had impacted the airline, its CEO, Neil Mills, says: “We were going to receive all seven Bombardier aircraft soon, but to begin with, we have taken only four for Delhi and want to see how it goes. The earlier plan was to take the risk of fielding the seven machines from the Delhi airport. But now, with the user development fees (UDF) as a proportion of tariff becoming so high in the short-haul sector, there is too much risk sitting on the company.”

On the other hand, the GMR group-run DIAL, shot back saying the raised charges were a fraction of their fares. GMR group CFO (Airports) Sidharath Kapur said: “SpiceJet is a valued customer; but, if they don’t want to fly more aircraft from Delhi, it’s their call. The new rates are for all.”

Kapur added the rise in airport charges and UDF was only a small percentage of their fares — not more than 8-9 per cent of their revenues. “The additional burden of higher parking and landing charges would not be more than Rs 40 per passenger, while UDF and ADF together will be around Rs 400, while their average fare is about Rs 5,000” he said.

Currently, SpiceJet has 12 Bombardiers meant to operate on regional routes, with Delhi, Hyderabad and Chennai as hubs. According to DIAL, earlier, aircraft below 80-seaters, including the Bombardier Q400, did not have to pay airport or parking charges as part of the government policy.

However, under a new order of the airport regulator for Delhi, cleared in May this year, they now have to fork out about Rs 10,000 as landing and parking charges at the Delhi airport. Besides, the regulator has also raised the UDF on customers by an average 345 per cent.

So, where will SG base these 3 a/c - AMD or BLR
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ameya · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject:

SG 1087 BLR 19:50 20:45 HBX 21:05 22:00 BLR SG 1088

ameya · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject:

Hubli flights effective 27th Sept

abhijith16 · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject:

Ameya, you beat me to it!

Also beginning from 27th April, BLR-CJB

SG1081 BLR1225 - 1310CJB DH8 D

SG1082 CJB1330 - 1415BLR DH8 D

SG is also increasing BLR-HYD to 2x Daily, with the new flight being operated by the Q400.
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ameya · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject:

ameya · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject:

Ohh bad indeed it is NOT based in BLR. Its flying back to HYD at 22:20 !! what a time ! It reahed HYS at 23:25 and you eventualy reach your home in HYD at over half past midnight. OMG ..

What I feared in my previous message is true