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Wow, that's quick. I doubt they'll be able to fill the early flights..
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DEL ATQ 6:40 8:05 Daily
ATQ SXR 8:25 9:20 1,3,5,7
SXR ATQ 9:45 10:45 1,3,5,7
ATQ DEL 11:05 12:30 1,3,5,7
ATQ DEL 8:25 9:40 2,4,6
DEL ATQ 14:15 15:35 Daily
ATQ DEL 15:55 17:20 Daily
DEL IXC 7:10 8:15 1,3,5,7
IXC DEL 8:35 9:40 1,3,5,7
DEL IXC 8:25 9:30 1,3,5,7
IXC SXR 9:50 10:50 2,4,6
SXR IXC 11:10 12:10 2,4,6
IXC DEL 12:30 13:25 2,4,6
DEL IXC 17:55 19:00 Daily
IXC DEL 19:20 20:20 Daily
DEL DED 10:15 11:00 Daily
DED DEL 11:20 12:30 Daily
DEL DED 15:00 16:00 Daily
DED DEL 16:20 17:15 Daily
DEL IDR 17:35 19:25 Daily
IDR DEL 20:10 22:05 Daily |
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Progressive induction of planes would happen
DED is operational from 19th the rest from 12th. IDR is already operational where it is connected to from HYD and BHO
Interesting fact would be to study if one of these planes would be based in AMD and do the usual east coast west coast express via some of these IDR/BHO/LKO/RPR/NAG |
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| Once all 5 planes are in operation, I am curious to see what is their G.T. in Delhi. They cant manage with 20 mins for sure |
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| ameya wrote: | DEL ATQ 6:40 8:05 Daily
ATQ SXR 8:25 9:20 1,3,5,7
SXR ATQ 9:45 10:45 1,3,5,7
ATQ DEL 11:05 12:30 1,3,5,7
ATQ DEL 8:25 9:40 2,4,6
DEL ATQ 14:15 15:35 Daily
ATQ DEL 15:55 17:20 Daily
DEL IXC 7:10 8:15 1,3,5,7
IXC DEL 8:35 9:40 1,3,5,7
DEL IXC 8:25 9:30 1,3,5,7
IXC SXR 9:50 10:50 2,4,6
SXR IXC 11:10 12:10 2,4,6
IXC DEL 12:30 13:25 2,4,6
DEL IXC 17:55 19:00 Daily
IXC DEL 19:20 20:20 Daily
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So IXC and ATQ both get SXR connections hope SJ has done their homework on these routes, IIRC this is the first time both these city pairs are connected to each other
Seems to soon to start them even though the SXR connection is non daily
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| ameya wrote: | That long back, I suppose it was only DN operating that route. Then its not about planned ops of ATR 42 or ATR 72. Its about which plane is available - send it !
The runway was capable of handling an occasional A319 in 2009. By 2010, night landing was operational and certified along with the runway extension and some terminal extension. In Summer 2010, 9W and AI entered DED which led to massive loss to IT - which till then had 6k + fares on the route.
I have wished going there but never managed, hopefuly next holiday is in the hills, its probably the only hills I havent seen so far and offcourse J&K. |
happy to see DED, my home airport pulling up. Pleasant to see it get A319/320, but then again, I haven't seen the airport since 2000/1. Should be a great spotting location, as runway runs parallel to state highway.
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SG has got their home work wrong time and again and hence the multiple changes down south with their Q400s time and again. I am sure the same would happen with north. But now its a big existance crisis for IT.
DED/IXC and soon JAI - will see flooding of flights and fares going down |
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| ameya wrote: | | SG has got their home work wrong time and again and hence the multiple changes down south with their Q400s time and again. I am sure the same would happen with north. But now its a big existance crisis for IT. |
IT's existence was finished 6-8 months ago, right now they're just in the zombie stage. The sooner they pull the plug, the better for everyone. No ones getting paid anyway, and there's little (0.0001%?) chance of a revival unless FDI rules are changed, and a gulf carrier with money to throw wants to throw it in this direction.
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Spicejet has yet again changed their sourthern Q400 routing.
They have also become unstable in terms of routes, they start something see how its working and change it to something new. When you have a second fleet for such small towns and cities, this methodology doesnt work, the homework should be right and then stabilize. |
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| ameya wrote: | Spicejet has yet again changed their sourthern Q400 routing.
They have also become unstable in terms of routes, they start something see how its working and change it to something new. When you have a second fleet for such small towns and cities, this methodology doesnt work, the homework should be right and then stabilize. |
Changing flight schedules willy nilly is pretty odd - what is going on with SG? Were the routes not working out and is this an attempt to shore up the routes?
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/spicejet-plans-to-expand-international-flight-services-to-6-countries/articleshow/14822666.cms
SpiceJet plans to expand international flight services to 6 countries
11 Jul, 2012
Low-cost airline SpiceJet today said it will start new flights to six countries, including Afghanistan, China, Hong Kong by end of October this year as part of its plan to expand international operations.
"We will launch flights for Kabul (Afghanistan), Riyadh (Saudi Arabia), China, Hong Kong, Bangkok, and Male in Maldives. The services to these countries will be start by October end," company's CEO Neil Mills told reporters here.
He added that the effort would be to connect to these countries from non-metro cities here in India.
The company is operating its international flight services for Dubai, Kathmandu and Colombo.
SpiceJet today announced expanding its services in northern region by connecting Chandigarh, Amritsar and Srinagar to Delhi.
The carrier will also connect to the cities of Dehradun and Indore to Delhi on its network in coming days, he said, adding that with this launch, SpiceJet would have presence at 37 domestic airports.
SpiceJet, which has average ticket price of Rs 4,000 for domestic flights, is operating 280 flights every day with 36,000 passengers.
When asked about taxation on aviation, Mills rued that Indian aviation companies were facing "very large burden" of taxation, which was one of the factors that affected the industry.
He said domestic airlines have been paying 24 per cent tax on fuel, which is quite higher than 3-4 per cent tax levied by other countries.
"As fuel is 50 per cent of our total cost, 24 per cent is a very significant number," he said.
He also said that service tax levied on aviation was unusual, as Indian Railways has been kept out of service tax levy.
"The recent service tax on aviation is very unusual..it was something which we were not expecting on aviation because service tax is not imposed on railways," he said.
He asked why service tax is levied on Indian aviation companies when it was not levied on railways.
On fleet expansion, Mills said that company's fleet size would be 50 by the end of this year by adding eight more aircraft.
SpiceJet, which claimed to have 18.5 per cent market share in domestic market, last month took delivery of five Q400 aircraft from Bombardier in Canada after getting financed through Export Development Corporation (EDC) of Canada.
These aircraft would serve mainly Tier II and III cities from Delhi.
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They are taking some birds from open market.
Few domestic routes will be cut short in Winter schedule to free up planes
South India will see a major change in schedule and network from winter schedule. |
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| ameya wrote: | | They are taking some birds from open market. |
Qs, 737s, or both?
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SpiceJet to Start Delhi – Jaipur Nonstop Service from late-July 2012
SpiceJet from 23JUL12 is launching nonstop Delhi – Jaipur service, where it’ll offer daily operation.
Schedule:
SG133 DEL0715 – 0800JAI 737 D
SG218 JAI2040 – 2115DEL 737 D
Airlineroute.net
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They have operated this route 10 times and cancelled it 10 times
Now this flight goes onwards to BOM |
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| ameya wrote: | They have operated this route 10 times and cancelled it 10 times
Now this flight goes onwards to BOM |
Just to expand a little bit, the full routing is
DEL-JAI 0715-0800
JAI-BOM 0830-1025
Return flight
BOM-JAI 1810-2010
JAI-DEL 2040-2115
This is good a/c utilization b/c it takes an a/c which previously would have had to RON at Jaipur anyway, and now would instead RON at Delhi. I wonder however, that overnight parking rates at Jaipur have to be cheaper than at IGI.
It's also interesting to ask what has changed to make JAI more viable. IMHO, a potential factor is the rapidly exploding guar bean market, which is used in hydraulic fracking (shale oil production). There was recently an article in the New York Times about the rise of guar bean farmers, and with Jaipur the hub of guar bean manufacturing, I can't help but wonder if that has stimulated more O&D demand.
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SpiceJet from 02AUG12 is introducing new connections from Bangalore, with nonstop service to Ahmedabad and Kochi. Service operates once a day with following schedule:
Bangalore – Ahmedabad
SG286 BLR2030 – 2230AMD 737 D
SG285 AMD1440 – 1635BLR 737 D
Bangalore – Kochi
SG285 BLR1720 – 1815COK 737 D
SG286 COK1900 – 1955BLR 737 D
Source:- Airlineroute.net
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SpiceJet Domestic India Service Increase from late-Oct 2012
India’s low-cost carrier SpiceJet is expanding a number of domestic India service in Winter 2012/13 season, which includes the following:
Delhi – Goa Service increases from 1 to 2 daily (inbound increases from 3 to 4 daily), new afternoon/evening service
SG253 DEL1045 – 1310GOI 737 D
SG255 DEL1455 – 1720GOI 737 D
SG262 GOI1050 – 1320DEL 737 D
SG254 GOI1340 – 1555DEL 737 D
SG256 GOI1800 – 2020DEL 737 D
SG258 GOI2015 – 2235DEL 737 D
Delhi – Hyderabad Service increases from 4 to 5 daily, new early morning and noon hours service
SG211 DEL0600 – 0810HYD 737 D
SG231 DEL0740 – 0950HYD 737 D
SG233 DEL1340 – 1550HYD 737 D
SG221 DEL1540 – 1740HYD 737 D
SG239 DEL1940 – 2140HYD 737 D
SG116 HYD0645 – 0840DEL 737 D
SG226 HYD1045 – 1255DEL 737 D
SG234 HYD1220 – 1430DEL 737 D
SG108 HYD1435 – 1645DEL 737 x2
SG236 HYD2025 – 2225DEL 737 D
Hyderabad – Coimbatore Service increases from 1 to 2 daily, new morning service
SG211 HYD0840 – 1000CJB 737 D
SG233 HYD1645 – 1805CJB 737 D
SG234 CJB1030 – 1150HYD 737 D
SG236 CJB1835 – 1955HYD 737 D
Source: Airlineroute.net
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Wow - DEL-GOI seems pretty asymmetric. Is that common? Or is this a Goa specific thing? Or a SG specific thing?
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| HYD-CJB was always was 2 flights a day for the last few years. Did they reduce to once a day and increase it back ? |
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Something is amiss there. While many airlines have asymetric frequencies, thi is not the level of asymetry. For eg: the 1050 dep ex GOI is only a day 6 flight and not daily as mentioned above.
Last winter, DEL-GOI was 3x daily on SG and would continue to be the same this year also I suppose |
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http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/sports/article3770925.ece
SpiceJet offers lifetime free tickets to London Olympics medal winners
Aug 14
To applaud the victory of Indian sportspersons in London Olympics 2012, SpiceJet Ltd will be providing free air tickets for life to all Indian medal winners at the London Olympics.
SpiceJet Ltd Chief Executive Officer, Neil Mills said, “The victory of Sushil Kumar, Yogeshwar Dutt, Vijay Kumar, MC Mary Kom, Saina Nehwal and Gagan Narang proves their hard work and commitment to their respective fields.”
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Spicejet has changed the routing of DEL-STV-BOM-CCJ-BOM-IXE-BOM-STV-DEL
BOM-CCJ-BOM has been delinked from the route, while BOM-IXE will be extended to BLR both ways, bringing an end to 9W's monopoly.
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BOM-CCJ has been re timed or pulled out ?
Isnt IXE-BLR still operational on IT, so its not a 9W monopoly yet.
Looks like a fallout of 2 planes going away for temporary period |
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| ameya wrote: | BOM-CCJ has been re timed or pulled out ?
Isnt IXE-BLR still operational on IT, so its not a 9W monopoly yet.
Looks like a fallout of 2 planes going away for temporary period |
BOM-CCJ-BOM is on a new flight number SG275/276 operating at nearly similar timings (+/- 1 hour)
IT does operate BLR-IXE, but their flights are often empty.
P.S - New schedule effective from 12 September.
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275/276 is BOM-TRV_BOM isnt it ?
MAA-BOM-TRV_BOM-MAA
we even had a TR of MAA-BOM-MAA leg on this rotation, so whats happening on that then ? |
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| ameya wrote: | 275/276 is BOM-TRV_BOM isnt it ?
MAA-BOM-TRV_BOM-MAA
we even had a TR of MAA-BOM-MAA leg on this rotation, so whats happening on that then ? |
SG will also axe BOM-TRV-BOM eff 12 September. The aircraft will now do a MAA-BOM-CCJ-BOM-MAA
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| Surprising that it cannot sustain TRV so now there are 2 under utilised aircraft instead of one |
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Are not the DEL-STV- BOM-IXE-BOM-STV-DEL operated by their Q400e ,
I do know it went back to 737s when CCJ came in the picture but with the de linking of the CCJ route i assume it will go back to a Q400
Can anyone confirm the same
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| Karan69 wrote: | Are not the DEL-STV- BOM-IXE-BOM-STV-DEL operated by their Q400e ,
I do know it went back to 737s when CCJ came in the picture but with the de linking of the CCJ route i assume it will go back to a Q400
Can anyone confirm the same
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When the route was first launched, it was operated by B737-800. Even after the delinking of CCJ, it will still be operated by a Boeing.
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Surat was and is B738 route for SG
Not sure how this whole Q400 keeps on coming time and again for discussion |
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| ameya wrote: | Surat was and is B738 route for SG
Not sure how this whole Q400 keeps on coming time and again for discussion |
That is because they had mentioned it on their schedule page for Q400s thats why i asked as a confirmation as i know Indian carrier schedules and ground realities are totally different, infact we had spoken about it earlier just wanted to know if things had changed this time around
http://www.spicejet.com/q400_sectors.asp
So barring the N.indian sectors of SXR ATQ DED IDR where are these Q400s operating
Interesting to know as SJ is the first operator of its type in india
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SG to begin service to Jabalpur effective from September 7
SG2441 DEL0805 - 0930JLR0950 - 1140BOM DH8 D
SG2442 BOM1215 - 1405JLR1425 - 1555DEL DH8 D
With this, a new unique way to travel between BOM and DEL is launched and will be the first time the Spicejet Q400s touch BOM (correct me if I'm wrong)
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| abhijith16 wrote: | SG to begin service to Jabalpur effective from September 7
SG2441 DEL0805 - 0930JLR0950 - 1140BOM DH8 D
SG2442 BOM1215 - 1405JLR1425 - 1555DEL DH8 D
With this, a new unique way to travel between BOM and DEL is launched and will be the first time the Spicejet Q400s touch BOM (correct me if I'm wrong) |
Interesting that Turboprop clearances are now being given for BOM - Ameya had mentioned earlier that BOM had stopped clearing new turboprop slots
Long overdue connection and one that was sorely required for BOM |
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Absolutely surprising.
What I am told is that it was because it is a new connection for Mumbai that this was given.
Also, the slowing down of KF has meant that even BOM is now looking out for revenue with slots available almost thruout the day |
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| 15a wrote: | | Ameya had mentioned earlier that BOM had stopped clearing new turboprop slots |
At that time, the only turbo-props were ATR72 and they are slooooowwwwww and take up too much time in the landing queue. Plus it was more of the peak hour slots that were being rationed.
I am sure given KF's demise, MIAL has a few open slots available. Also if you observe, this schedule is in the middle of the day, when flight traffic is already slow and slots are available.
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May airlines have steadily increased services in BOM
More of a fallout of KF. Besides, from MIALs perspective, they have slots and can give it to people to pay up unlike before where there were no slots and payments werent coming ! |
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| As discussed earlier del-stv-bom-ixe route is served by 737-800 or 737-900er , sg has never operated a Q-400 on this route , sg also plans to operate blr-ixe from the 12 sep, IT has stopped operating flights to ixe but the station remains open & they hope to return to ixe ....... |
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| turbo jet wrote: | | As discussed earlier del-stv-bom-ixe route is served by 737-800 or 737-900er , sg has never operated a Q-400 on this route , sg also plans to operate blr-ixe from the 12 sep, IT has stopped operating flights to ixe but the station remains open & they hope to return to ixe ....... |
I still cannot understand why SpiceJet and Jet are ignoring the Bangalore-Hubli route. KF used to operate it full everyday despite charging about Rs. 6,000~7000 each way.
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Weird. DEL-JLR-BOM operates from September 7 till October 28!
Also, BOM-TRV-BOM is suspended between September 12 till October 27.
The new tag-on BLR-IXE also operates between September 12 till October 22.
Has 9Ws reservations guy shifted to SG? I have ruled out SG website after checking TRV.
BTW, I'm guessing the 2 spare aircrafts may be used for the Hajj tenders.
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