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jasepl
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| iah87 wrote: | Does Jet ever give complimentary or miles upgrades to its elite members, or do they always try to sell the upgrades.
For many this is the problem with Jet, not enough upgrades even on domestic sectors, even there are seats up front. |
Really?
Allegedly I am the only one interested in redeeming points for upgrades or being able to use those upgrade vouchers.
Everyone else, one would think, is perfectly happy using points to fly in economy, even if a paid ticket was going for Rs 2,000.
At least that's what Jet Airways claims.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| me111993 wrote: | | Nope, very high fuel prices, and a few non performing routes. |
And... QED.
That is a very definitive statement to make. Based on what exactly? Intimate knowledge of the performance of each of Jet's flights? I think not. |
All it takes is a bit of common sense really, once all the sarcasm clears out, you'll see it yourself too.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| jasepl wrote: | | iah87 wrote: | Does Jet ever give complimentary or miles upgrades to its elite members, or do they always try to sell the upgrades.
For many this is the problem with Jet, not enough upgrades even on domestic sectors, even there are seats up front. |
Really?
Allegedly I am the only one interested in redeeming points for upgrades or being able to use those upgrade vouchers.
Everyone else, one would think, is perfectly happy using points to fly in economy, even if a paid ticket was going for Rs 2,000.
At least that's what Jet Airways claims. |
I don't get this either - I would never ever use my miles for an economy award ever  Either get a J award or use them to upgrade a Y ticket on long haul. Are the 9W upgrade instruments (vouchers or whatever they call them) good for upgrade on long haul or just domestic? |
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jasepl
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| sshank wrote: | | I don't get this either - I would never ever use my miles for an economy award ever Either get a J award or use them to upgrade a Y ticket on long haul. Are the 9W upgrade instruments (vouchers or whatever they call them) good for upgrade on long haul or just domestic? |
In theory, they're good on all routes.
In reality, well...
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/12637770.cms
Jet Airways eyes more internatioanl routes; expediates hiring of pilots
12 Apr, 2012
India's largest carrier by market share, Jet Airways is looking at expanding its international operations in a big way. The airline wants to start flying on the Manila & Kuala Lumpur routes a part form increasing flights to Europe & Gulf countries according to two sources familiar with the details.
In line with this strategy, the airline is also on a pilot hiring spree. The airline has hired nearly 20 pilots in the last few weeks and is still in the process of hiring more. It will also be aircraft fleet once these approvals come through.
'The airline will induct 10 to 12 aircraft once the ministry gives them approvals' said a source who did not want to be named.
International operations contribute nearly 60% to Jet Airways' revenues. With the civil aviation ministry ending Air India's monopoly over bilateral traffic rights, allowing all Indian carriers to utilize these, Jet Airways has also sought government permission to expand its international services to 518 flights per week from 370 at present by winter of 2012.
'Jet Airways continually assesses and employs sufficient number of cockpit crew to enable optimal utilization of its fleet' Jet Airway's spokesperson told ET NOW in an email response.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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^^ And at the same time 9W pilots are opposing hiring of IT pilots - the 332 staff amongst them should be very welcome at 9W, but the existing 9W pilots are not supporting hiring of IT pilots...
Getting a/c and pilots should be super easy for 9W what with the collapse of IT.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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The following Jet Konnect flights now offer business class -
S2 4630 (Bengaluru-Mumbai),
S2 4175 (Mumbai-Nagpur),
S2 4176 (Nagpur-Mumbai),
S2 4455 (Mumbai-Hyderabad)
S2 4456 (Hyderabad-Mumbai)
from 18th April onwards -
Mumbai-Delhi, Kolkata-Guwahati/Delhi/Agartala, Imphal-Guwahati, Mumbai-Aurangabad, Delhi-Bengaluru/Chandigarh
will also have Konnect Select' .
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:23 am Post subject: |
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BOM-IXU which flight ?
Guess they upgraded the evening flight after IT pulled ut
Morning flight already has Konnect Select
The rotation is a non IFE a/c which after morning IXU goes onwards to IXC as full service |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ameya wrote: | BOM-IXU which flight ?
Guess they upgraded the evening flight after IT pulled ut
Morning flight already has Konnect Select
The rotation is a non IFE a/c which after morning IXU goes onwards to IXC as full service |
Yep, its the evening run. But's its happening from the 23rd of April, not the 18th.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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I'm loving the way, Jet has blocked redemption seat availablity since the 20% discount offer.
40k miles expiring soon and cant put them to use.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| theflyingsikh wrote: | I'm loving the way, Jet has blocked redemption seat availablity since the 20% discount offer.
40k miles expiring soon and cant put them to use. |
Typical for 9W.
You may be able to redeem on 9W's partner network instead.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:41 am Post subject: |
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9W is making BOM-Dehradun a one stop flight via delhi on 737 by tweaking some schedules.
Schedule is
9W 307 BOM 11:15 DED 14:40
9W 334 DED 15:10 BOM 18:30
Flights via DEL both ways. DEL-DED stays at 2 daily (1 ATR, 1 737) |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Nimish wrote: | | You may be able to redeem on 9W's partner network instead. |
Definitely recommended.
Redeeming JetPunishment points on a partner will mean you will likely get availability, on a definitely better airline for possibly much less cash.
So poetic, it brings tears !
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:36 am Post subject: |
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So two emails from Jet in the last few hours.
1. Special Summer Fares
Do they realise it's mid-April already?
Idiots.
2. Just in case anyone was still under any illusion that there was any benefit to any of Jet's loyalty products:
Dear Stupid Fool who still flies with us,
As you are aware, we recently consolidated our low fares service offering, namely JetLite and Jet Airways Konnect to now operate under a single brand name and airline, JetKonnect.
As a Jet Airways Citibank Credit Card holder, you are entitled to special privileges when flying aboard Jet Airways and JetKonnect.
This intimation is in reference to the excess baggage allowance you enjoy while flying with us within India - as a Jet Airways Citibank Credit Card holder. Please note, this benefit is available ONLY on Jet Airways full-service flights, and not on JetKonnect.
For more information on the benefits and privileges applicable, please visit jetairways.com.
Yours sincerely,
For Jet Airways (India) Ltd.
Kaushal Satam
Head - JetPrivilege
Even better: I cancelled my Citi Jet card a while ago.
Idiots.
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They've only sent the e-mail today. But these rules have been implemented a couple of weeks ago.
I had to pay INR 3000 of for excess baggage on a 9W Konnect flight from Bom to Ixu a few days ago. It was imporant stuff and had to be taken.
The ticket itself was only about INR 3000. How wonderful!
This airline is really taking the biscuit now!
Is it our problem if you are making most of your flights Effin Konnect or whatever that crap is called.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Jet is also terminating DEL-CMB effective from May 16th
Weirdly BOM timings are still the same..
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| abhijith16 wrote: | Jet is also terminating DEL-CMB effective from May 16th
Weirdly BOM timings are still the same.. |
Which means the 737 is going to be idling at CMB all day? 
Or have they simply put off changing the BOM times on the system?
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| theflyingsikh wrote: | They've only sent the e-mail today. But these rules have been implemented a couple of weeks ago.
I had to pay INR 3000 of for excess baggage on a 9W Konnect flight from Bom to Ixu a few days ago. It was imporant stuff and had to be taken.
The ticket itself was only about INR 3000. How wonderful!
This airline is really taking the biscuit now!
Is it our problem if you are making most of your flights Effin Konnect or whatever that crap is called. |
The baggage allowance on mainline Jet and Jet Konnect or Jet lite is the same (20 kgs), which is standard for all Indian carriers with some exceptions. |
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| iah87 wrote: | | theflyingsikh wrote: | They've only sent the e-mail today. But these rules have been implemented a couple of weeks ago.
I had to pay INR 3000 of for excess baggage on a 9W Konnect flight from Bom to Ixu a few days ago. It was imporant stuff and had to be taken.
The ticket itself was only about INR 3000. How wonderful!
This airline is really taking the biscuit now!
Is it our problem if you are making most of your flights Effin Konnect or whatever that crap is called. |
The baggage allowance on mainline Jet and Jet Konnect or Jet lite is the same (20 kgs), which is standard for all Indian carriers with some exceptions. |
I'm completely aware of 9W's baggage policy on domestic flights. We were discussing the free, excess baggage allowance on domestic flights with my JACC Platinum card and the change in policy now.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: 9W goes double daily CCU BKK |
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New flight starts 10th May
9W 72 CCU 1100 BKK 1510
9W 71 BKK 1600 CCU 1705 |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: 9W goes double daily CCU BKK |
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| 15a wrote: | New flight starts 10th May
9W 72 CCU 1100 BKK 1510
9W 71 BKK 1600 CCU 1705 |
Basically it seems like they are filling the void left behind by IT. Even timings match. However, its good they are providing a day light option and are bang on time with the school summer holidays. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: 9W goes double daily CCU BKK |
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| 15a wrote: | New flight starts 10th May
9W 72 CCU 1100 BKK 1510
9W 71 BKK 1600 CCU 1705 |
Thanks a lot for the update.
Another indicator that BKK as a station does well for 9W; now they must further add frrquencies from BOM and DEL.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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BOM doesnt need for 9W flights to BKK as it is already triple daily.
DEL though immediately needs a 2nd daily B738 as having one flight departing BKK at 0650 daily is not enough to meet the needs of the market. This flight also is mainly catering to onward transit pax bound to MXP and LHR as it is very inconvenient for O&D pax due to the early morning departure out of BKK.
9W needs a BKK-DEL departing BKK at 1800-1900 for the O&D market + onward connections to BRU + USA/YYZ + India domestic
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: |
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More reductions & changes on international routes
After axing DEL CMB it's the turn of MAA DXB which ends from 21st June. This was an all Y service
Also BOM DAC BOM reverts to the late morning departure from BOM schedule effective 12th may
Further, 9w is going double daily for may & June on ccu port Blair & maa port blair |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| theflyingsikh wrote: | They've only sent the e-mail today. But these rules have been implemented a couple of weeks ago....
The ticket itself was only about INR 3000. How wonderful!
This airline is really taking the biscuit now! |
Jet seems to be filled by far more than the standard proportion of idiots. And I'm not surprised that the JetIdiots don't have a clue, when every day it increasingly seems that the only reason they were hired was because they couldn't tell their ass from their elbows.
| abhijith16 wrote: | | Jet is also terminating DEL-CMB effective from May 16th |
Oh no! What about the poor, poor Milanese? However will they get to Sri Lanka now?
| Spiderguy252 wrote: | | Which means the 737 is going to be idling at CMB all day? |
Why not? Aircraft sitting around all day and decorating assorted tarmacs is an important aspect of Jetuna Matata ("Our profit-free, philo-sophy" remember?).
Jet's flying billboards seem to lose less money doing nothing than actually flying, so it's not the worst idea to come out of Andheri.
See their logic where Jet's hapless passengers earn less JetPunishment points from flying the billboards than from eating someone else's khandvi and, soon, pissing in someone else's toilet.
It's all part of their grand plan.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| The second daily BOM RUH Flight is also gone from 12th may |
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