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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What will be interesting to note is if these International Narrow Bodies come with PTVs or not


Hopefully EY will ensure they match whatever EY has...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JH explains his strategy for 9W:

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/etihad-says-strong-india-presence-key-to-strategy-qfQu3UIgQbyzTvHFGjqpkw.html
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
Karan69 wrote:
What will be interesting to note is if these International Narrow Bodies come with PTVs or not


Hopefully EY will ensure they match whatever EY has...


I don't know, they are only pushing for consistency on the Wide Body, which was announced last year when JH said that the 789s of 9W EY and AB will have the same interior products.

Also new deliveries of AB and VA come no where close to the EY offering.

One thing is for sure if the core of their International operations is on the 737s , with SIN,JED being their longest sectors touching 5-6 hrs they better start offering PTV service on all international routes barring maybe DAC/KTM/CMB,

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
JH explains his strategy for 9W:

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/etihad-says-strong-india-presence-key-to-strategy-qfQu3UIgQbyzTvHFGjqpkw.html


After seeing the video there is nothing new or something we dint expect to hear,

One ROFL moment was when he was asked about the FAA downgrade, he said Jet don't fly to the USA right now..... Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Yes - that was hilarious.

On another topic - can anyone interpret this: http://www.natlawreview.com/article/virgin-v-jet-airways-english-courts-cannot-undermine-epo-european-patent-office-pate

Does this mean 9W is in trouble or are they off the hook?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rumors of Turkish Airlines leasing 3 x A332s from Jet Airways for 6 years.

More to follow.



The first of three Jet Airways A332 being leased to Turkish, VT-JWL, has been ferried out to Paris Orly today where she will receive her new colors and registration, as TC-JIM.





To update my list; the 9W A332 leasing saga thus far :

VT-JWD -> To Gulf Air as VT-JWD -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWD -> To Oman Air as VT-JWD -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWD -> To Etihad as A6-EYY -> To Air Seychelles as A6-EYY
VT-JWE -> To Gulf Air as VT-JWE -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWE -> To Oman Air as VT-JWE -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWE -> To Etihad as A6-EYZ -> To Air Seychelles as A6-EYZ
VT-JWJ -> To Etihad as A6-EYC
VT-JWK -> To Etihad as A6-EYA
VT-JWM -> To Etihad as A6-EYB
VT-JWF -> To Etihad as A6-AGA
VT-JWG -> To Etihad as A6-AGB
VT-JWL -> To Turkish as TC-JIM
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gulf Air Oman Air Etihad Air Seychelles Turkish


Wow, they've been around the block. Shocked

The 77Ws have flown for Thai, Gulf Air and Turkish and the A332 also very nearly went to Kuwait Airways, as I recall. Are there any members of the Jet Airways wide-body timeshare scheme?
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9W retimes BOM SIN BOM flights, the new schedule is as follows:

9W 012 BOM - SIN 0020 0830
9W 010 BOM - SIN 0950 1800

9W 009 SIN - BOM 1005 1310
9W 011 SIN - BOM 2005 2310

B737-800 operations.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

“Jet may also be allocated some of the more than 100 wide body aircraft ordered by Etihad at the Dubai Air Show in Nov 13."
.... said Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation or Capa in its Outlook for 2014-15 on Monday.

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/ZP6eCWalH9xBeL6AQv27OM/Indian-airlines-may-order-400-aircraft-this-year-report.html
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeh wrote:
Wow, they've been around the block.

We're talking about the Rashtriya Randi ( © D Bawa ) and her whorelings.... What else did you expect? Abstinence?

Jeh wrote:
the Jet Airways wide-body timeshare scheme?

Hehehehehehehe!

avbuff wrote:
9W retimes BOM SIN BOM flights, the new schedule is as follows:

9W 012 BOM - SIN 0020 0830
9W 010 BOM - SIN 0950 1800

9W 009 SIN - BOM 1005 1310
9W 011 SIN - BOM 2005 2310

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The poor people! Oh the poor, poor people.

However will they manage? The poor, poor people just cannot do daytime flights! Eastbound is okay (so long as it's on Jet Airways), but westbound? Nooooooooooo!

Oh the poooooorrrrr people. The poor peopppppleeeee.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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“Jet may also be allocated some of the more than 100 wide body aircraft ordered by Etihad at the Dubai Air Show in Nov 13."

Allocate?

Is that how a minority shareholder relationship works? Quick! Someone call the Assassin of Ahmedabad... The minority is holding the majority hostage!

Maybe it's time to call the OUP and have then redefine word meanings.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ladies & Gentlemen....Madame BBB!!!! Wink

I am surprised she didnt get her panties in a bunch over the 7 hours that the a/c is in SIN. Twisted Evil

Anyways - just saw this on the 9W site

BOM-LHR cancelled/rescheduled for today n tomorrow. Any idea why?

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/ProductAndServices/PassengerInformation.aspx

Standard Disclaimer - Madame BBB and her ilk need not respond.
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Jet Airways have added a new 737-800 to the fleet today, as VT-JFR.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jet Airways have added a new 737-800 to the fleet today, as VT-JFR.


Do you happen to know the interior config of these aircrafts or if they will get IFE or not

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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747-237 wrote:
Rumors of Turkish Airlines leasing 3 x A332s from Jet Airways for 6 years.

More to follow.



The first of three Jet Airways A332 being leased to Turkish, VT-JWL, has been ferried out to Paris Orly today where she will receive her new colors and registration, as TC-JIM.



The dry-lease deal with Turkish is now apparently down to 2 x A332s (rather than 3).

The next (second and last) A332 to be leased out is to be VT-JWH.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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747-237 wrote:
Jet Airways have added a new 737-800 to the fleet today, as VT-JFR.


Do you happen to know the interior config of these aircrafts or if they will get IFE or not


Does it matter Karan? Failga's the ultimate in penny foolish and pound foolish.

They will spend money on top-of-the-line IFE hardware and then most likely that equipment will just sit pretty and not be used, not even for looping free Sulabh and Nirodh Vaapraa ads (like much of the widebody fleet).

Prafull and the Tooth Fairy will be blamed.

Jetuna Matata.
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Spoke to a 9W person in the morning.

He yapped a lot of things about the 9W Middle east operations, but here are some important highlights.

* IXE - DXB would be transferred to IXE - AUH and a 3rd daily DEL - DXB will be annnounced

* DEL - MCT being evaluated

* BOM - KWI a very well performing route

* RUH, JED still dominated by AI amongst non stop carriers

* CCU BKK terminated due to popularity of 6E. TG too feeling the heat but is working well due to onward connections.

* BOM - KUL and BOM - CAN being considered
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http://www.hindustantimes.com/business-news/jet-airways-to-buy-50boeing-737-max-planes/article1-1185941.aspx

Jet Airways has got the government’s approval to buy 50 new, fuel-efficient Boeing 737 Max planes.

Top sources told HT that the civil aviation ministry’s nod for the multi-billion dollar deal came last week.

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Spoke to a 9W person in the morning.

He yapped a lot of things about the 9W Middle east operations, but here are some important highlights.

* IXE - DXB would be transferred to IXE - AUH and a 3rd daily DEL - DXB will be annnounced

* DEL - MCT being evaluated

* BOM - KWI a very well performing route

* RUH, JED still dominated by AI amongst non stop carriers

* CCU BKK terminated due to popularity of 6E. TG too feeling the heat but is working well due to onward connections.

* BOM - KUL and BOM - CAN being considered


* No surprises about IXE-DXB transferred to AUH. But it begs the question, when will Etihad actually place codeshares on 9W's new ops. If they launch the route without the codeshare, then it's going down to the dogs.

* I would want them to launch a 2nd Daily BOM-MCT first, with a departure at 1800/1900 hrs to connect more domestic destinations.

* Again, no surprises there. Considering how their only competitor on the route is a daily KU flight. Still, I believe 9W has also made good inroads into DOH, and maybe one of their top performing destinations as well.

* They will only gain traction in RUH and JED if they use widebody A330s, or add more destinations out like CCJ/COK/TRV/DEL. This is where the AUH stop can come into use.

* Yeah, TG briefly switched between Thai Smile, but pulled it out in the last moment.

* As if MAA-KUL did any better! Rolling Eyes
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* They will only gain traction in RUH and JED if they use widebody A330s, or add more destinations out like CCJ/COK/TRV/DEL. This is where the AUH stop can come into use.


they're unable to get clearance for AUH-Saudi routes, this includes AUH-DMM as well, and this is why you haven't seen AUH-RUH/JED announced.

Wide bodies on these routes has to be a targeted approach, you take a 3-4 332s, reconfig them, with the current J seats on the 737s, be it 2-3-2, and ensue the aircraft has atleast 270+ seats, then you get into planning the Saudi Schedule, with 3-4 weekly flights from CCJ/TRV/COK to JED/RUH, perhaps daily ops from BOM.

Thing is, you can have a slightly larger subfleet of 332s similarly configured and use in to BKK, maybe KWI.

Somehow, 9W isn't willing to invest into this, either they see a big risk or massa wont allow, you never know.

Their 332s, the configuration they are in right now, canNOT turn in a profit, be it on BRU or CDG or CAN, if its a 330 service.

They're holding on to some of these flights or starting new ones, simply to be replaced with the 789s, when 9W gets them.

Before its asked how these planes manage to do okay with EY or TK, remember, fuel outside India is almost 30% cheaper, not adding discounts on either side.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does it matter Karan? Failga's the ultimate in penny foolish and pound foolish.

They will spend money on top-of-the-line IFE hardware and then most likely that equipment will just sit pretty and not be used, not even for looping free Sulabh and Nirodh Vaapraa ads (like much of the widebody fleet).

Prafull and the Tooth Fairy will be blamed.

Jetuna Matata.


True Jason,

They are literally the definition of penny wise pound foolish,

Cut off simple things like Ketchup fresh lime service on domestic runs ...which cost around max 5-6 rs a pax.
And this was their distinguishing factor......but now .. Jetuna metuta indeed


Regards their IFE it was a genuine question as it keeps passengers distracted from noticing flaws in their service Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Hence I asked the question to mr forum there,,but he seems ignorant as well towards it

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

avbuff wrote:
IXE - DXB would be transferred to IXE - AUH and a 3rd daily DEL - DXB will be annnounced

Hehehehehe.

avbuff wrote:
CCU BKK terminated due to popularity of 6E. TG too feeling the heat but is working well due to onward connections.

Wow. Similar fares and fewer bells and whistles. Still people actually don't want to fly Jet.

Just wow.

They should have dropped the fare by 20%, increased costs by 30% and called it a Konnect service (chipkaoing sticker optional). That would have led to an instant IndigoFail and a JetLottery.

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massa wont allow

That statement makes no sense. A mere minority 24% stake does not result in any sort of influence over anything. It's just free money that EY gave 9W out of the goodness of their hearts, with Lala & Co having carte blanche to do what they will without any "interference".

Karan69 wrote:
They are literally the definition of penny wise pound foolish,

Cut off simple things like Ketchup fresh lime service on domestic runs ...which cost around max 5-6 rs a pax.
And this was their distinguishing factor......but now .. Jetuna metuta indeed


Regards their IFE it was a genuine question as it keeps passengers distracted from noticing flaws in their service Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Hence I asked the question to mr forum there,,but he seems ignorant as well towards it

Karan


They passed the penny wise pound foolish stage a while ago. Now they're just penny foolish and pound foolish.

Really, there's no need for IFE on the overwhelming majority of Jet flights (both domestic and international). But if they've already invested in the expensive equipment, they may as well put it to some use.

Even if they don't want to pay the royalties to show movies, they can earn a few rupees by showing ads and promotional films - like we now see at some urinals.
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avbuff wrote:
IXE - DXB would be transferred to IXE - AUH and a 3rd daily DEL - DXB will be annnounced

Hehehehehe.



Screw you, Jason. This is one plan I'm looking forward to. Mangaloreans are quite tired of going to the Gulf via Sahar and Santa Cruz!
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jasepl wrote:
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IXE - DXB would be transferred to IXE - AUH and a 3rd daily DEL - DXB will be annnounced

Hehehehehe.



Screw you, Jason. This is one plan I'm looking forward to. Mangaloreans are quite tired of going to the Gulf via Sahar and Santa Cruz!


You need your head examined. Everyone knows that a bus-plane-bus-bus-bus-plane combo (on Jet, featuring the Sahar-Santa Cruz shuffle) is better than a non-stop flight on any aircraft of any airline.

And once this flight gets Ettified too, that will mean FibgaFail in Dubai too: Madras, gone. Hyderabad, gone. Mangalore, going.
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abhijith16 wrote:
jasepl wrote:
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IXE - DXB would be transferred to IXE - AUH and a 3rd daily DEL - DXB will be annnounced

Hehehehehe.



Screw you, Jason. This is one plan I'm looking forward to. Mangaloreans are quite tired of going to the Gulf via Sahar and Santa Cruz!


You need your head examined. Everyone knows that a bus-plane-bus-bus-bus-plane combo (on Jet, featuring the Sahar-Santa Cruz shuffle) is better than a non-stop flight on any aircraft of any airline.

And once this flight gets Ettified too, that will mean FibgaFail in Dubai too: Madras, gone. Hyderabad, gone. Mangalore, going.


Ettified -- ROFL.
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The dry-lease deal with Turkish is now apparently down to 2 x A332s (rather than 3).

The next (second and last) A332 to be leased out is to be VT-JWH.


Second and last A332 to be leased out to TK might now be VT-JWN.
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9W has added many new codeshares on EY's metal to/from AUH-AMM,BAH,BGW,CAI,KWI,RUH,MCT.

However, the million dollar question is - Why won't Massa codeshare on 9W's flights???

BLR/HYD-AUH aren't gonna sell themselves you know.
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9W has added many new codeshares on EY's metal to/from AUH-AMM,BAH,BGW,CAI,KWI,RUH,MCT.

However, the million dollar question is - Why won't Massa codeshare on 9W's flights???

BLR/HYD-AUH aren't gonna sell themselves you know.


I often find that code shares are not necessary - for instance with LH/ UA - though they have code shares, the fare rules allow the combination of any (appropriate) LH flight with any (appropriate) UA flight. So I might have an LH ticket with a UA sector on FRA-IAH. Works just fine.

Similarly nothing stopping EY/ 9W from selling tickets with connections on either airlines. Sure, there will be some folks who will worry about this being a different airline, but I'd rather them get that shock at the time of ticketing rather than at the boarding gate when they see the plane!
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abhijith16 wrote:
9W has added many new codeshares on EY's metal to/from AUH-AMM,BAH,BGW,CAI,KWI,RUH,MCT.

However, the million dollar question is - Why won't Massa codeshare on 9W's flights???

BLR/HYD-AUH aren't gonna sell themselves you know.


I often find that code shares are not necessary - for instance with LH/ UA - though they have code shares, the fare rules allow the combination of any (appropriate) LH flight with any (appropriate) UA flight. So I might have an LH ticket with a UA sector on FRA-IAH. Works just fine.

Similarly nothing stopping EY/ 9W from selling tickets with connections on either airlines. Sure, there will be some folks who will worry about this being a different airline, but I'd rather them get that shock at the time of ticketing rather than at the boarding gate when they see the plane!


Yes, but the problem is this isn't Dubai. There isn't a lot of interline connections out of AUH. A codeshare is essential, as it will back these new flights very neatly. I've noticed that an interline ticket costs a lot more $$$, and you don't want to go into this market offering higher fares than everyone else.
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I've noticed that an interline ticket costs a lot more $$$, and you don't want to go into this market offering higher fares than everyone else.


This is where I differ - it's up to the 2 airlines to decide on pricing (the fare rules on LH/ UA allow booking on either's metal at the same price). If EY/ 9W so choose, they can price either metal at the same price even on an interline booking. But they have to want to do that, something which EY seems less keen on.
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Well, there's the (un)willingness to work out the interline fare structures and all that.

In addition - and this may not be as crucial - there's a FFP issue that comes into play. Unless the two programmes are integrated, you're not going to get status credit.

Perhaps that's something EY have planned for a little down the line?
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In addition - and this may not be as crucial - there's a FFP issue that comes into play. Unless the two programmes are integrated, you're not going to get status credit.

Perhaps that's something EY have planned for a little down the line?


Isn't the FFP program something that EY paid top $$$ to buy out from 9W? Isn't 9W's FFP now actually owned by EY?
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Well, I don't think EY paid for JetPunishment. I suspect it was a, quick, easy, (relatively) red tape-free way of pumping some more money into Fibga.

If they had tried to increase their "minority" stake instead, then they'd have to deal with a much greater number of committees and clearances leading to that much more delay and so forth.

Besides, Subramaniam Busyswami would have gotten so excited, his BP'd have gone flying through the roof and he'd have shot off countless letters to everyone (un)willing to listen. Not to mention the endless "look at me" routines we'd be subject to. So, yah, thank Heavens Etti picked the route they did to flush away a few more dinars.

Bus, yes, it is curious that they haven't done anything more with the FFPs than they had before the takeover. Maybe Etti have other, long-term plans for their whorey little plaything?

In any event, Jet are too busy promoting Surat Diamonds to care about such trifles as the flying customers.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jet Airways has leased out 1 x 777-300ER to Etihad for AUH-JFK runs. VT-JER (formerly VT-JED) has been deployed by Etihad as A6-JAA for this specific route from March 01.




To update my list ....


Clear as Mud - the 9W 77W story ... so far

VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP
VT-JEC -> To Turkish as TC-JJD -> To Thai as HS-TKT -> To Jet as VT-JES
VT-JED -> To Turkish as TC-JJA -> To Thai as HS-TKS -> To Jet as VT-JER -> To Etihad as A6-JAA
VT-JEE -> To Turkish as TC-JJC -> To Jet as VT-JEL(II)
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM
VT-JEG -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEG -> To Jet as VT-JEG
VT-JEH -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEH -> To Jet as VT-JEH
VT-JEJ -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEJ -> To Thai as HS-TKJ -> To Jet as VT-JEQ
VT-JEK
VT-JEL (I) -> ntu -> To Abu Dhabi Emiri Flight (V.I.P.) as A6-SIL
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

747-237 wrote:
Jet Airways has leased out 1 x 777-300ER to Etihad for AUH-JFK runs. VT-JER (formerly VT-JED) has been deployed by Etihad as A6-JAA for this specific route from March 01.




To update my list ....


Clear as Mud - the 9W 77W story ... so far

VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP
VT-JEC -> To Turkish as TC-JJD -> To Thai as HS-TKT -> To Jet as VT-JES
VT-JED -> To Turkish as TC-JJA -> To Thai as HS-TKS -> To Jet as VT-JER -> To Etihad as A6-JAA
VT-JEE -> To Turkish as TC-JJC -> To Jet as VT-JEL(II)
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM
VT-JEG -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEG -> To Jet as VT-JEG
VT-JEH -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEH -> To Jet as VT-JEH
VT-JEJ -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEJ -> To Thai as HS-TKJ -> To Jet as VT-JEQ
VT-JEK
VT-JEL (I) -> ntu -> To Abu Dhabi Emiri Flight (V.I.P.) as A6-SIL


This is the dumbness of the FAA deal, 9W cant say that they're the ones operating the flight due to the downgrade but a 9W plane serviced by 9W crew and flown by 9W pilots, maintained by 9W engineers can, however add flights for EY.

thanks for the update. i'm expecting A6-JAB to operate this rote tomorrow, which will be VT-JES.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abhijith16 wrote:
9W has added many new codeshares on EY's metal to/from AUH-AMM,BAH,BGW,CAI,KWI,RUH,MCT.

However, the million dollar question is - Why won't Massa codeshare on 9W's flights???

BLR/HYD-AUH aren't gonna sell themselves you know.


BLR-AUH EY 8702
HYD-AUH EY 8700
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

me111993 wrote:
abhijith16 wrote:
9W has added many new codeshares on EY's metal to/from AUH-AMM,BAH,BGW,CAI,KWI,RUH,MCT.

However, the million dollar question is - Why won't Massa codeshare on 9W's flights???

BLR/HYD-AUH aren't gonna sell themselves you know.


BLR-AUH EY 8702
HYD-AUH EY 8700


What about MAA/COK-AUH?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abhijith16 wrote:
me111993 wrote:
abhijith16 wrote:
9W has added many new codeshares on EY's metal to/from AUH-AMM,BAH,BGW,CAI,KWI,RUH,MCT.

However, the million dollar question is - Why won't Massa codeshare on 9W's flights???

BLR/HYD-AUH aren't gonna sell themselves you know.


BLR-AUH EY 8702
HYD-AUH EY 8700


What about MAA/COK-AUH?


nothing as of now.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of updates & corrections to my above post.

747-237 wrote:
Jet Airways has leased out 1 x 777-300ER to Etihad for AUH-JFK runs.


2 x 777-300ERs have been leased out, as per the agreement between 9W & EY.


747-237 wrote:
VT-JER (formerly VT-JED) has been deployed by Etihad as A6-JAA.


VT-JES (formerly VT-JEC) has been deployed by Etihad as A6-JAA
VT-JER (formerly VT-JED) has been deployed by Etihad as A6-JAB


Therefore, to update my list ....

Clear as Mud - the 9W 77W story ... so far

VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP
VT-JEC -> To Turkish as TC-JJD -> To Thai as HS-TKT -> To Jet as VT-JES -> To Etihad as A6-JAA
VT-JED -> To Turkish as TC-JJA -> To Thai as HS-TKS -> To Jet as VT-JER -> To Etihad as A6-JAB
VT-JEE -> To Turkish as TC-JJC -> To Jet as VT-JEL(II)
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM
VT-JEG -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEG -> To Jet as VT-JEG
VT-JEH -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEH -> To Jet as VT-JEH
VT-JEJ -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEJ -> To Thai as HS-TKJ -> To Jet as VT-JEQ
VT-JEK
VT-JEL (I) -> ntu -> To Abu Dhabi Emiri Flight (V.I.P.) as A6-SIL
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow - Some companies - must be wondering about their raison d'etre

While we're at it - why is TK doing all this ad-hoc leasing? Why not just buy the bloody planes early enough and not have to do this repainting/ reconfiguring naatak every now and then?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:


While we're at it - why is TK doing all this ad-hoc leasing? Why not just buy the bloody planes early enough and not have to do this repainting/ reconfiguring naatak every now and then?


Interim measure while waiting for the delivery of the 20 77Ws and 13 A333s they have ordered.

and they have ordered 20 738NGs too, so I won't be surprised if they end up leasing some of 9Ws 738s in the interim as well. More business for RR Leasing Twisted Evil
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