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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Goat wrote:
Interim measure while waiting for the delivery of the 20 77Ws and 13 A333s they have ordered.

and they have ordered 20 738NGs too, so I won't be surprised if they end up leasing some of 9Ws 738s in the interim as well. More business for RR Leasing Twisted Evil


RR Leasing... hehehehe!

But seriously, the 737s are a no go. They're going to be needed to fly the Dhabi Shuttle.

The 77Ws, 332s and 333s, on the other hand, RR doesn't need at all. All of them can be whored out.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And it seems like the BLR-AUH sector has taken off. Good for Jetihad! Now - I don't remember, but is the a/c decorating the tarmac at AUH overnight, or does it have some further sectors to operate?

I hope the route does well for Jetihad...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a sad testament to the sheer failure of the Indian aviation sector that other airlines (TK, EY) can fill up the same aircraft that Indian carriers can't (AI, 9W).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaysit wrote:
It's a sad testament to the sheer failure of the Indian aviation sector that other airlines (TK, EY) can fill up the same aircraft that Indian carriers can't (AI, 9W).
Spot on, Sir.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
And it seems like the BLR-AUH sector has taken off. Good for Jetihad! Now - I don't remember, but is the a/c decorating the tarmac at AUH overnight, or does it have some further sectors to operate?

I hope the route does well for Jetihad...


A colleague is taking the BLR - AUH 9W flight tomorrow. Followed by a AUH - FRA on EY. Reaches FRA at 06 :30 AM getting a full day's work in. Shall ask him about his experience once he is back.
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Jet withdraws four Kolkata flights

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/Jet-withdraws-four-Kolkata-flights/articleshow/31429004.cms[/u][/i]
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9W this morning had B739 for the short BOM-GOI-BOM run. Generally it is done by B738s which return from AUH

While I tried checking in for my father yesterday, I realized that it was a -9 and was expecting a downgrade to -8 this morning but that was not the case.

VT-JBY operated this flight
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From: http://www.pardaphash.com/news/jet-airways-integrates-google-now-for-guest-bookings-on-official-website-and-mobile-application/730703.html

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JET Airways integrates Google Now for Guest Bookings

Mumbai: Jet Airways, India's premier international airline, has now integrated Google Now into it’s booking system for guests booking flights on www.jetairways.com and the Jet Airways mobile apps. Google Now will show guests timely and relevant updates through Google Now flight cards.

Google Now is a feature of the Google Search app that delivers the information you care about, without having to search for it. When you choose the cards most relevant to you, Google Now learns how to help manage your day, letting you focus on what matters.

From knowing the weather before you start your day, to planning the best route to avoid traffic, or even checking your favorite team’s score while they’re playing, Google Now brings you the information you want, when you need it.

Google Now works the way you want. Sign in and Google Now seamlessly brings you customized, highly relevant information. You control the settings that determine the information Google Now provides.

Jet Airways is the first Indian airline to integrate Google Now which updates guests about their upcoming flights, provides flight status, and information about the departure time and terminal. This feature is available via the Google Search app for iOS devices on Apple’s App Store, and is built into Android 4.1+ devices, as part of the Google Search App. Guests using iPhones and iPads will need to download the free Google Search App.

Jet Airways guests who make a booking through www.jetairways.com or the Jet Airways Mobile App and indicate/sync their Gmail address in the booking will be able to view travel information in Google Now several hours before their flight departure. Information includes updates on their flight schedule, and the airport terminal for their flight. This information is automatically updated in Google Now.

If the flight is delayed or the status changes, the latest information will be reflected in the Google Now card via Google Search.

Google Now additionally provides relevant information about the destination like weather, local happenings, updates and much more.

Mr. Gaurang Shetty, Senior Vice President – Commercial, Jet Airways, said “With the increased focus on technology to enhance our guests travel experience, the integration of Google Now provides us the opportunity to present guests with customized and relevant information in a seamless and user friendly format. We hope our guests benefit from this efficient application designed to simplify and enhance their travel.”


I'm delighted to see something useful come from Jet's IT!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From: http://www.pardaphash.com/news/jet-airways-integrates-google-now-for-guest-bookings-on-official-website-and-mobile-application/730703.html

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JET Airways integrates Google Now for Guest Bookings



I'm delighted to see something useful come from Jet's IT!


This has been on for a while... I like the cards that also tell me stuff like - when I need to start from home!! Wink
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[quote="Nimish"]From: http://www.pardaphash.com/news/jet-airways-integrates-google-now-for-guest-bookings-on-official-website-and-mobile-application/730703.html

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Jet Airways is the first Indian airline to integrate Google Now which updates guests about their upcoming flights, provides flight status, and information about the departure time and terminal. This feature is available via the Google Search app for iOS devices on Apple’s App Store, and is built into Android 4.1+ devices, as part of the Google Search App. Guests using iPhones and iPads will need to download the free Google Search App.
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Why is Jet Airways claiming to be the first? I have been getting updates on my AI flights on Google Now since Jan this year.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's a sad testament to the sheer failure of the Indian aviation sector that other airlines (TK, EY) can fill up the same aircraft that Indian carriers can't (AI, 9W).

AI get a free pass (but they still need to die, yesterday). So that leaves us with the Rashtriya Randi.

Nimish wrote:
I'm delighted to see something useful come from Jet's IT!

Don't you think there should be more pressing priorities, like OLCI, flight changes, seat selection, Konnect integration, mileage credit accrual... (Lord the list is endless, like the number of JetFails)?

himmat01 wrote:
Why is Jet Airways claiming to be the first? I have been getting updates on my AI flights on Google Now since Jan this year.

Well, Failga tend to use an alternate dictionary (when they use one, that is). Word meanings are completely different in Fibgaspeak.

And Gaurang seems to be especially accomplished; his dictionary says "seamless" means 22 hours.
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Don't you think there should be more pressing priorities, like OLCI, flight changes, seat selection, Konnect integration, mileage credit accrual... (Lord the list is endless, like the number of JetFails)?

This is a big fail, because as Indians we like to boast about the greatness & expertise of our IT sector. However, the websites for most of our airlines are so full of fail.
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jasepl wrote:
Don't you think there should be more pressing priorities, like OLCI, flight changes, seat selection, Konnect integration, mileage credit accrual... (Lord the list is endless, like the number of JetFails)?

This is a big fail, because as Indians we like to boast about the greatness & expertise of our IT sector. However, the websites for most of our airlines are so full of fail.

The whole airline's a big fat JetFail... Did you honestly expect anything better?
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Lalajee is recruiting jet children for its front offices-both ATRs and B737s. I had taken a jet child to CME for her medicals today. As per her, at least 100 will be recruited on ATRs and B737s. A lot of senior FOs are moving to the B777s.
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Lalajee is recruiting jet children for its front offices-both ATRs and B737s. I had taken a jet child to CME for her medicals today. As per her, at least 100 will be recruited on ATRs and B737s. A lot of senior FOs are moving to the B777s.


Strictly Untrue! Your JetChild must be dazed and confused, wait what did i say?
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himmat01 wrote:
Lalajee is recruiting jet children for its front offices-both ATRs and B737s. I had taken a jet child to CME for her medicals today. As per her, at least 100 will be recruited on ATRs and B737s. A lot of senior FOs are moving to the B777s.


Strictly Untrue! Your JetChild must be dazed and confused, wait what did i say?


Very Happy Well, what can I say, she has all the required attributes of a jet child even before formal joining.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

himmat01 wrote:
Optimus.Prime wrote:
himmat01 wrote:
Lalajee is recruiting jet children for its front offices-both ATRs and B737s. I had taken a jet child to CME for her medicals today. As per her, at least 100 will be recruited on ATRs and B737s. A lot of senior FOs are moving to the B777s.


Strictly Untrue! Your JetChild must be dazed and confused, wait what did i say?


Very Happy Well, what can I say, she has all the required attributes of a jet child even before formal joining.

Hahah! So true. One cant blame the JetChildren for anything, really. They're there because they met the specific criteria their employer lays down for hiring.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The first of three Jet Airways A332 being leased to Turkish, VT-JWL, has been ferried out to Paris Orly today where she will receive her new colors and registration, as TC-JIM.



The dry-lease deal with Turkish is now apparently down to 2 x A332s (rather than 3).

The next (second and last) A332 to be leased out is to be VT-JWH.



The second 9W A332 going to TK, VT-JWH, has been delivered to Turkish at Istanbul, where she will become TC-JIL.



To update my list .....

The 9W A332 leasing saga thus far :

VT-JWD -> To Gulf Air as VT-JWD -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWD -> To Oman Air as VT-JWD -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWD -> To Etihad as A6-EYY -> To Air Seychelles as A6-EYY
VT-JWE -> To Gulf Air as VT-JWE -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWE -> To Oman Air as VT-JWE -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWE -> To Etihad as A6-EYZ -> To Air Seychelles as A6-EYZ
VT-JWJ -> To Etihad as A6-EYC
VT-JWK -> To Etihad as A6-EYA
VT-JWM -> To Etihad as A6-EYB
VT-JWF -> To Etihad as A6-AGA
VT-JWG -> To Etihad as A6-AGB
VT-JWL -> To Turkish as TC-JIM
VT-JWH -> To Turkish as TC-JIL
VT-JWN
VT-JWP
VT-JWQ

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Plus, my other list ....

Clear as Mud - the 9W 77W story ... so far

VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP
VT-JEC -> To Turkish as TC-JJD -> To Thai as HS-TKT -> To Jet as VT-JES -> To Etihad as A6-JAA
VT-JED -> To Turkish as TC-JJA -> To Thai as HS-TKS -> To Jet as VT-JER -> To Etihad as A6-JAB
VT-JEE -> To Turkish as TC-JJC -> To Jet as VT-JEL (II)
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM
VT-JEG -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEG -> To Jet as VT-JEG
VT-JEH -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEH -> To Jet as VT-JEH
VT-JEJ -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEJ -> To Thai as HS-TKJ -> To Jet as VT-JEQ
VT-JEK
VT-JEL (I) -> ntu -> To Abu Dhabi Emiri Flight (V.I.P.) as A6-SIL

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


If I have a headlock on this situation, Jet Airways' current mix of widebody long-haulers should now read as thus :

3 x A330-200s
VT-JWN
VT-JWP
VT-JWQ

4 x A330-300s
VT-JWR
VT-JWS
VT-JWT
VT-JWU

5 x B777-300ERs
VT-JEL
VT-JEG
VT-JEH
VT-JEQ
VT-JEK
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I have a headlock on this situation, Jet Airways' current mix of widebody long-haulers should now read as thus :

3 x A330-200s
VT-JWN
VT-JWP
VT-JWQ

4 x A330-300s
VT-JWR
VT-JWS
VT-JWT
VT-JWU

5 x B777-300ERs
VT-JEL
VT-JEG
VT-JEH
VT-JEQ
VT-JEK


That's just the ones they haven't whored out, right?

Because Fibga claim to have 10 x 332 + 4 x 333 + 10 x 77W = 24 planes

So half the fleet's busy making money for others. Whilst the other half is (not) busy losing money for Jet / doing tarmac TP.

And what they're going to do with the remaining 333s and 787s is anyone's guess. JLWC?
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That's just the ones they haven't whored out, right?

That is correct - the ones flying for them, in their livery.

jasepl wrote:
Because Fibga claim to have 10 x 332 + 4 x 333 + 10 x 77W = 24 planes


I believe they include the ones leased out. Still their list is either outdated, or they are as clueless about their fleet as with running their airline. I attribute this to the first two A332s, now with Air Seychelles, via Etihad. There is some special arrangement there, which has them showing 10 x 332s as opposed to 12.
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jasepl wrote:
That's just the ones they haven't whored out, right?

That is correct - the ones flying for them, in their livery.

jasepl wrote:
Because Fibga claim to have 10 x 332 + 4 x 333 + 10 x 77W = 24 planes


I believe they include the ones leased out. Still their list is either outdated, or they are as clueless about their fleet as with running their airline. I attribute this to the first two A332s, now with Air Seychelles, via Etihad. There is some special arrangement there, which has them showing 10 x 332s as opposed to 12.


Werent those two leased by 9W and now with HM after the 9W lease expired?
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I believe they include the ones leased out. Still their list is either outdated, or they are as clueless about their fleet as with running their airline. I attribute this to the first two A332s, now with Air Seychelles, via Etihad. There is some special arrangement there, which has them showing 10 x 332s as opposed to 12.

So it could be >50% operating for someone else and >70% idle time on the planes that do lose money for Jet?

They're even dumber than I give them credit for.
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Madame BBB I think is having her monthly visitor Wink

Anyways why is there the confusion on ex VT - JWD and JWE - werent these the two leased 332s with regional J config tht used to go to YYZ? 9W never owned these two

IIRC JWA/B/C were the 340s leased from SA.
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justbala wrote:
Werent those two leased by 9W and now with HM after the 9W lease expired?


justbala wrote:
Anyways why is there the confusion on ex VT - JWD and JWE - werent these the two leased 332s with regional J config tht used to go to YYZ? 9W never owned these two


9W does not "own" many more than these two. The question is more about sub (or rather sub-sub) lease rather than ownership. JWD & JWE were and are owned by ILFC to the best of my knowledge, leased to 9W, sub-leased out to KY, who in turn sub-sub leased them to HM.


There were 2 more A332s leased by 9W from Air Europa, and painted in 9W livery at BRU. They were ntu by Jet Airways, and since they didn't receive VT regns (either officially or painted on their fuselage {a la VT-JEL (I) above}), they are not included in my list above. Perhaps those are what you had in mind (?).

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IIRC JWA/B/C were the 340s leased from SA.


Yes.
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9W does not "own" many more than these two. The question is more about sub (or rather sub-sub) lease rather than ownership. JWD & JWE were and are owned by ILFC to the best of my knowledge, and were sub-leased out to KY, who in turn sub-sub leased them to HM.


technically, thats correct, thing is, JWE/JWD and the 333s right now were taken on lease by IFLC/GECAS on a 6 year period (extendable to 12), the other 332s were taken on the book and 9W owned them for around 2 odd years after which they sold them off to firms that we haven't really heard of, and on some rather strange terms to raise operating cash.

otherwise how was 9W able to work up a deal to sell off 5 of them to KU for $80 million a piece?
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So, apparently, Jet's internal anthem is leaked (there's a prize for guessing the inspiration behind this one):


Akkha network shit, JetFail day after day
So I called the Sheik, told him no you just can't say
I'll stop in by the harem; I'm sure we'll find a way

And I got down on my knees, and opened wide (all the way-ay)
You know I really liked the taste, so I decided to stay

'Sides I'd be dead and gone, if I'd stayed in Bombay
Soon I was Abu Dhabi dreaming, on another JetFail day
Whole airline for a dinar, now I'm the Sheik's bendy little lay
Forever on my knees, or my back (depending on day)

But it's Abu Dhabi living, yippee yippee yay!
Bombay doesn't matter, Dhabi is the way-ay
Eti-had is pounding, every which way
Bend and grab my ankles… I love it night and day!

Dhabi Harem living.... Yippee yippee yay!
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So Fibga have just announced that buying tickets or checking in online will not earn any bonus JetPunishment points.

Not that it really matters, because OLCI hardly ever worked anyway.

But the end result is that you earn hardly any points for flying Jet. You no longer earn any points for using jet.dumb. So, basically, the only way to earn any meaningful JetPoints is to buy someone else's shirts, drink someone else's coffee or use someone else's sandaas.

Not that that matters much either, because, really, whatever can one do with the JetPoints, however they've been earned? The best thing to do with JetPoints is to let them expire.


Of course, as usual, the notification email came on 22 March, telling us that "effective 14 March..."

Oh Failga.... You're even a failure at failing.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course, as usual, the notification email came on 22 March, telling us that "effective 14 March..."

Oh Failga.... You're even a failure at failing.


It is effective from 1st April only. Convenience fee is effective from 14 March.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the OLCI points cancellationis clean up of JP before it gets sold to Etihad Guest miles (as part of sale of the separeate JP company just approved by shareholders).

On the positive side once its sold am hoping to see better linkage to Etihad Guest Miles aka Status recognition and status miles just as Air Berlin has today

"Earning miles with Etihad Airways
topbonus members can earn topbonus award and status miles on the entire route network of Etihad Airways"

http://www.airberlin.com/en-AE/site/tb/partner/index.php?cid=3&partnerName=etihad
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Jet Airways seems to have placed their Code on a number of AUH routes operated by EY including CDG FRA MUC MAN to name a few

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Jet Airways seems to have placed their Code on a number of AUH routes operated by EY including CDG FRA MUC MAN to name a few

Karan


They have put their codes on a lot of intra-Gulf, Levant, Iraq, Iran as well as European EY services as well.
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Jet Airways seems to have placed their Code on a number of AUH routes operated by EY including CDG FRA MUC MAN to name a few

Karan



This has been there for a very long time, specially CDG, which was there since 2012, rest (European) were added mid 2013.

Asian, are fairly recent.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Jet-hikes-excess-baggage-rate-to-Rs-300-a-kilogram/articleshow/32611172.cms


Jet hikes excess baggage rate to Rs 300 a kilogram


Mar 24, 2014

Jet Airways and JetKonnect have revised their excess baggage flat rate to Rs 300 per kilogram, inclusive of service tax, on domestic India routes for baggage over and above the Free Baggage Allowance.

The fee came into effect on March 21 and will be levied at the check-in counters. With this above revision under the weight system, the excess baggage rate will be increased by $ 5 for international journeys connecting to/from a Jet Airways or Jet Konnect domestic sector. The fee is applicable only on domestic India routes operated by 9W and S2. It is applicable for all points of sale. JetPrivilege members and co-branded card holders will continue to enjoy the additional FBA as per the eligibility. Cabin baggage remains unchanged and process/documentation for such charge remains unchanged.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Jet-Airways-acting-CEO-quits/articleshow/32674293.cms


Jet Airways' acting CEO quits


Mar 25, 2014

Jet Airways' acting CEO Ravishankar Gopalakrishnan has resigned from the post, spending less than three months in the job. He was made CEO in mid-January when Gary Kenneth Toomey quit from the position. The airline had then said Gopalakrishnan will remain CEO till a new chief is appointed.

Apart from the unending shuffle at the top, Gopalakrishnan's quitting is at least the fifth high level resignation Jet has witnessed after it sealed its deal with Etihad. Top people like Toomney, chief commercial officer Sudheer Raghavan and vice-president (commercial strategy and investor relations) K G Vishwanath have quit in past one year. Gopalakrishnan, a CA, had joined Jet as chief financial officer in October 2012.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/jet-airways-shuffles-summer-schedule-to-feed-etihads-traffic/articleshow/32684003.cms

Jet Airways shuffles summer schedule to feed Etihad's traffic

26 Mar, 2014

Jet Airways has added flights from Ahmedabad, Hyderabad and Bangalore to Abu Dhabi and rescheduled some of its local flights in the upcoming summer schedule, to feed maximum traffic on to its partner Etihad's global network. In May, Jet is also starting a direct flight to Paris from Mumbai, in addition to the code-share connections it gives with Etihad and other partners.


It flies to destinations such as Toronto and Newark via Brussels and is also looking to start flights to Australia, taking on national carrier Air India, who recently started flights to Sydney and Melbourne. The summer schedule lasts from April-September, while the rest of the year falls under the winter schedule.




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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

basheer1211 wrote:
jasepl wrote:
Of course, as usual, the notification email came on 22 March, telling us that "effective 14 March..."

Oh Failga.... You're even a failure at failing.


It is effective from 1st April only. Convenience fee is effective from 14 March.

Whoops... Didn't read the JetRubbish properly. So part of it was a retroactive penalty and the other part was with 10 whole days' notice. No doubt another well planned and flawlessly strategised JetFail.

747-237 wrote:
Jet hikes excess baggage rate to Rs 300 a kilogram]

And the Fail by a Thousand Cuts Jetyapunti continues...

747-237 wrote:
Jet Airways' acting CEO quits

Hahhah... Caused by even more Jetyapunti surely.

747-237 wrote:
Jet Airways shuffles summer schedule to feed Etihad's traffic

So was this another well-planned and properly considered move? Or did a JetChild wake up this morning and decide to play?

In any event, whilst the Dhabi Shuttle continues it's carpetbombing of India, we have this:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo/32382769.cms

Indigo and GoAir are increasing flights. AI and Spice are decreasing, but only just. JetZophrenia, however, will be cutting a combined total of nearly 400 flights. Chalo Dhabi.

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looking to start flights to Australia, taking on national carrier Air India

Hahahahahahahahah! Hahahahahahahah! When was the last time Failga was able to "take on" any airline? The only competition Jet Airways has been able to keep up with is JetKonnect. And the only competition JetKonnect has been able to keep up with is Jet Airways.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It flies to destinations such as Toronto and Newark via Brussels and is also looking to start flights to Australia, taking on national carrier Air India, who recently started flights to Sydney and Melbourne.

Can anyone in the know actually shed some light on 9W looking to start flights to Australia? From what i have read in the past, they were quite happy piggy-backing on Qantas.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luvleen wrote:
It flies to destinations such as Toronto and Newark via Brussels and is also looking to start flights to Australia, taking on national carrier Air India, who recently started flights to Sydney and Melbourne.

Can anyone in the know actually shed some light on 9W looking to start flights to Australia? From what i have read in the past, they were quite happy piggy-backing on Qantas.


One thing that Jet knows is to copy AI and they generally charge more than AI on that route. If AI has a marginally succesfull or break even route, then Jet will try to imitate. Nothing wrong in competing, except that Jet cannot afford any more losses. However, AI can afford to run break even routes and even routes which only cover operating costs since GoI is subsidizing, while Jet cannot.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Jet Airways having entered into an equity partnership with West Asian airline Etihad last year, Frankfurt headquartered airline alliance group Star Alliance said its doors were shut to it.

"After that (Etihad-Jet) deal , let me say that doors are shut for Jet," said Christian Klick, vice-president, Corporate, Star Alliance, speaking to Business Today on the sidelines of a media gathering during a two-day visit to the country.


http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/doors-open-to-any-other-member-airline-from-india-star-alliance/1/204681.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So as predicted and not to everyone's surprise, here is an article illustrating what I had foreseen when the deal was announced.

Lalaji is left powerless with nothing much he can do. Make f**k all policies of 5 yr / 20 ac international or putting multiple spanners in AIs way to Star. In this all time low of Indian aviation, a good percentage of blame goes to Lala as well.

http://www.business-standard.com/article/markets/has-etihad-tightened-its-grip-over-jet-airways-114032800128_1.html

Etihad is running the airline, who have absolutely no interest in Jet's domestic network beyond their feed to AUH and online Indian points of EY.

Jet Airways is just a name, it is actually Etihad Airways - India which is operating side by side in India.
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