Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Jet Airways News -- Part 12 Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11353 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:44 pm    Post subject: jasepl wrote: Thanks... I figured you would know. Dammit, I'm getting too predictable! jasepl wrote: Now, do you know what the fourth one's been doing? Collecting dust - I think there was a picture somewhere of the 9W A333s parked at DEL not doing much. Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:31 pm    Post subject: Jaysit wrote: Jet fills up its First Class suites on its London routes, and does pretty well filing up its J seats. Besides, which business traveler with half a brain would want to take a one-stop via AUH, DXB, DOH, etc. on the LHR-BOM route? All the Gulf bling in the sky isn't worth the extra 4 hours of travel and transit time. It's one thing if you're flying ULH from AUH to LAX, but LHR is just an 8 hour nonstop from BOM. Oh I personally agree. But we're not the only voices in the picture. We've also been told very definitively that even on short hops like Dubai, a HYD-BOM-DXB is a far better option than simply going HYD-DXB. I suppose it makes sense, when you're talking about the best airline the world has ever seen. Stranger things have happened, no? 747-237 wrote: Collecting dust - I think there was a picture somewhere of the 9W A333s parked at DEL not doing much. Aiyiyiyiyiyi! What happened too all the great things Jet told us about the 333s? How buying them was the best decision any airline has made. Ever. And how they sneakily managed to sneak in two more J seats in the same space. And how it won't matter if they're the first and only airline to replace a great hard product with something worse, because soon everyone's going to do it? In any event, this brings us that much closer to an answer to the very important question posed by The Goat in his signature. _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top me111993 Member Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 3225 Location: MAA/AMD Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:38 pm    Post subject: Quote: 747-237 wrote: Collecting dust - I think there was a picture somewhere of the 9W A333s parked at DEL not doing much. Aiyiyiyiyiyi! What happened too all the great things Jet told us about the 333s? How buying them was the best decision any airline has made. Ever. And how they sneakily managed to sneak in two more J seats in the same space. And how it won't matter if they're the first and only airline to replace a great hard product with something worse, because soon everyone's going to do it? Incorrect, ever since all 4 have been in the fleet, they've been dedicatedly operating the BRU hub (which gives an average utilization of ~ 14:50 mins per day, including the one off 332 flight on BOM/DEL-BRU a week); barring the same time last year where in they put a plane onto SIN and one onto HKG for a month or so. Any pic depicting the same was most likely taken on Tuesdays or Wednesdays, when there's a substitution due to operational reasons. As for why 9W isn't putting a 333 on BOM/DEL-HKG, if they really wanted 77Ws on BRU for these two months, its up for speculation, everything from maintenance to the assumption that they've finally understood the concept of offering a consistent product on a well performing business route can be factored in, personally its something inbetween the 2, because they've always pushed for 332s on HKG in May-June. _________________ Causal Determinism : We are hardwired to need answers. The Caveman who heard a rustle in the bushes and checked out to see what it was, lived longer than the guy, who assumed it was just a breeze. - Greg House Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:53 pm    Post subject: So, in short, yes, tarmac TP (whatever the excuse). _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top me111993 Member Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 3225 Location: MAA/AMD Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:09 pm    Post subject: for these 2 months, yeah. _________________ Causal Determinism : We are hardwired to need answers. The Caveman who heard a rustle in the bushes and checked out to see what it was, lived longer than the guy, who assumed it was just a breeze. - Greg House Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:04 pm    Post subject: sri_bom wrote: SriLankan Airlines in codeshare talks with Jet Airways News Total JetFail in Failalombo to follow? Air Lanka can fly from a dozen Indian cities and Fibga can chipkao a codeshare. As Abba said : That history book on the shelf.... _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top indopaki Member Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 479 Location: Pakistan Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:08 pm    Post subject: Why did Jet change their J seats on the A333, their herringbone ones are the best of all that have such seats. Back to top Jaysit Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346 Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 10:00 am    Post subject: indopaki wrote: Why did Jet change their J seats on the A333, their herringbone ones are the best of all that have such seats. The herringbones are great, but they're not to everyone's taste. If, for instance, you're traveling with someone and desire their company for the duration of the flight, it aint happening. The 9W new configuration (very similar to the LX configuration, but lacking its tasteful flourishes) takes care of that. The new CX/AA/AF seats also take care of that while still guaranteeing aisle access for all. The problem with the new 9W seats isn't the configuration so much as that it looks like it was purchased from Sears. Back to top Spiderguy252 Member Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4259 Location: Indian Ocean Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 10:06 am    Post subject: indopaki wrote: Why did Jet change their J seats on the A333, their herringbone ones are the best of all that have such seats. I think it was dropped because of a potential legal tangle with Virgin or some such carrier. _________________ Yeah. Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Spiderguy252 wrote: I think it was dropped because of a potential legal tangle with Virgin or some such carrier. Yah. It was a Virgin patented design, so the seat manufacturer was found to be at fault and airlines were forced to pick out a different design for future installations. However, the choice of a not-as-good seat was entirely a Jet's decision. Replacing the best (and possibly only) good thing you have going with something not near as good is pure, unadulterated Jetyapunti. _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top indopaki Member Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 479 Location: Pakistan Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:35 pm    Post subject: Perhaps if they had kept the same colours and materials used it would have looked better. Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:13 pm    Post subject: So the latest email from Fibga has got to be my favourite yet, by far. Of course, it features all the usual JetDelights we've come to expect, including timing, grammar, syntax, punctuation etc. But what takes the whole lala ni dukaan is that the subject is "Important changes at JetPrivilege". Then when you read the message, it's basically telling us that nothing's changed. At all. JetPunishment remains as shit today as it was yesterday. Wow. Wow wow wow. Wowowowo. _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:43 pm    Post subject: jasepl wrote: But what takes the whole lala ni dukaan is that the subject is "Important changes at JetPrivilege". Then when you read the message, it's basically telling us that nothing's changed. At all. JetPunishment remains as shit today as it was yesterday. It was quite ironic - the subject made you want to read the message carefully, but the body of the message reassured you that nothing's changed. Definitely a confused message there. _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top abhijith16 Member Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:25 pm    Post subject: http://tinyurl.com/k9e4l3r Quote: Jet, Etihad diluted pact to pass Sebi test To ensure their deal passes muster with the Securities and Exchange Board of India (Sebi), Etihad Airways and Jet Airways have agreed to give up some of the initial arrangements. Among other things, they have dropped the requirement that Jet make Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) the exclusive hub for its flights to the Americas and Africa, to convince the market regulator the two airlines were not acting in concert and Etihad would not have joint control over the airline. On Thursday, Sebi said Etihad's acquisition of a 24 per cent stake in Jet didn't warrant an open offer, as "effective control" remained with Indians and the Jet board of directors. Last year, Etihad bought the stake for Rs 2,057 crore. Etihad and Jet have diluted parts of the commercial co-operation and shareholder agreements to gain the regulator's nod. These amendments came after Sebi served a notice to Etihad in February. Though there will no impact on Jet's plans to develop a network from Abu Dhabi, the amendment removes the restriction on Jet to route flights from Abu Dhabi. Technically, it could look at other hubs; though for now Jet's strategy is centred around developing routes to the US and Africa via Abu Dhabi. Jet and Etihad have a codeshare partnership and plan to feed traffic from 23 cities in India to Abu Dhabi and onward. Currently, Jet uses Brussels (Belgium) as a hub to fly one-stop flights to Newark in the US and Toronto in Canada. It also flies to other cities in Europe in a codeshare partnership with the Thalys rail network between Paris (France) & Brussels and Brussels Airlines. Jet is likely to retain the Brussels gateway to link Canada (as there is an issue concerning traffic rights between the UAE and Canada) and might route its Newark flight via Abu Dhabi. The two air carriers had also agreed under the commercial pact to have a route and schedule co-ordination and joint pricing, marketing, distribution & sales, among other things. A source said the clause was rewritten to drop 'joint' from the agreement after the Sebi notice. "The changes were made to avoid an open offer scenario. Jet and Etihad can carry out these activities together but there is no binding obligation to do so now," the source added. According to the Sebi order, areas of co-operation listed in the commercial pact will be subject to approval by boards of both airlines in the modified arrangement. Etihad has also given up its right to recommend candidates for senior management positions in Jet. The clause regarding Jet joining Etihad's global loyalty programme has been modified to "without any restriction on Jet to enter into any similar global frequent flyer programmes". Etihad's right to take the lead in buying aircraft and engines has been replaced with reciprocal arrangements that would be subject to approval of boards of both the airlines. Another change is that the cooperative arrangements can also be extended to third-party carriers with which Jet or Etihad have similar arrangements or an equity investment, subject to the approval by their boards. Clauses related to governance procedures have also been dropped. Jet and Etihad did not respond to emails. Sebi's Thursday order said Etihad made the changes to the commercial pact voluntarily. "These voluntary changes have been made to ensure there is absolute certainty that effective control of Jet Airways is and continues to vest in Indian nationals and the board of Jet Airways. These further changes/amendments reflect the commercial understanding between the parties, who will independently engage with one another in a spirit of transparency and reciprocity," it said. Kapil Kaul of the Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation said, "Abu Dhabi is central to Etihad and critical to its global strategy. Etihad is driving Jet's future strategy, which is linked to their global plans... I do not see any impact on Jet (due to dilution of the commercial pact). It will remain committed to strengthening the exclusive territory of Etihad." Amber Dubey, partner and head (aerospace and defence) at KPMG, said removing 'joint' from the pact did not prevent the two carriers from having synergies in route design, procurement of goods and services, etc. It would help both carriers reduce cost and improve bottom lines, he added. _________________ <a><img></a> Back to top 15a Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: http://www.livemint.com/Companies/hNZ57aBT7MsRYnKCwFtffO/Jet-Airways-plans-to-shun-lossmaking-routes-some-domestic.html The BOM-VTZ BOM flight is replaced by another BOM-DEL-BOM flight 9W 337 BOM 0855 DEL 1100 Daily 9W 340 DEL 1230 BOM 1435 (except 7) 9W 340 DEL 1140 BOM 1345 7 BOM-DEL goes up to 14 daily (13 daily on return). No clue still on where the BLR-VTZ aircraft (s2) rotation goes. Till 31st it does BLR-VTZ-CCU-???-CCU-VTZ-BLR-BOM-BLR. The last BLR-BOM-BLR rotation (1930 BLR departure, 2200 BOM departure) remain - but what the aircraft does the rest of the day is a mystery Back to top 15a Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: Also lots of flights have moved back to mainline 9W in the last few days. What i can tell from the schedules, the following flights go back to full service JAI-BOM - 1 daily (evening flight) HYD-DEL-LKO and vv LKO-DEL-AMD and vv TRV-BLR-DEL-DED and vv DEL-KTM goes to 3 daily from 23rd May and from that same day DEL-LKO goes down to 4 daily. Back to top 15a Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 4:15 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Jet Airways Reduces Paris Service May/June 2014 Jet Airways has revised planned operations for Mumbai – Paris CDG service, due to be launched on 14MAY14. The airline will operate 4 weekly service, instead of daily, from 14MAY14 to 25JUN14. It will operate daily service from 26JUN14. 9W124 BOM1200 – 1750CDG 332 x123 9W123 CDG2110 – 0950+1BOM 332 x123 Source: Airlineroute.net They are also now codesharing on AF's BOM-CDG and vv. Flights sold as 9W 125/126. Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:08 pm    Post subject: I didn't realise there was a Failyawada to add to the list? Did they fly there until recently? 15a wrote: Also lots of flights have moved back to mainline 9W in the last few days. There's a difference? _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top 15a Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:22 pm    Post subject: jasepl wrote: I didn't realise there was a Failyawada to add to the list? Did they fly there until recently? Tir and VGA went out with the summer sched. The only city they serve in the new "seemandhra" is Rajahmundry which I guess is sustained by the oil drilling business 15a wrote: Also lots of flights have moved back to mainline 9W in the last few days. There's a difference? free (built in fare) sandwich or hot meal as opposed to the BOB stuff (which also is poorly managed and often unavailable) - given the timing of some of these flights - it does matter so as a frequent sufferer - yes ! Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 7:32 pm    Post subject: So, on BOM-HYD, the Rs 3,738 Konnect flight is BOB and the Rs 3,297 Full Service flight includes a meal? You pay Rs 400 less and get a meal? Ingenious! And on BOM-AMD, it's Rs 3,297 for Full Service vs Rs 3,140 for Konnect. So for Rs 150 more, you get a Rs 50 shendwees. No wonder this airline's raking it in... They're making jetyas of all the passengers _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top ameya Member Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 7:37 pm    Post subject: 15a wrote: http://www.livemint.com/Companies/hNZ57aBT7MsRYnKCwFtffO/Jet-Airways-plans-to-shun-lossmaking-routes-some-domestic.html The BOM-VTZ BOM flight is replaced by another BOM-DEL-BOM flight 9W 337 BOM 0855 DEL 1100 Daily 9W 340 DEL 1230 BOM 1435 (except 7) 9W 340 DEL 1140 BOM 1345 7 BOM-DEL goes up to 14 daily (13 daily on return). No clue still on where the BLR-VTZ aircraft (s2) rotation goes. Till 31st it does BLR-VTZ-CCU-???-CCU-VTZ-BLR-BOM-BLR. The last BLR-BOM-BLR rotation (1930 BLR departure, 2200 BOM departure) remain - but what the aircraft does the rest of the day is a mystery Retiring some S2 birds - mostly the -700s Back to top luvleen Member Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Bombay Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: ETIHAD Expands Jet Airways Codeshare Service to Asia from late-May 2014 http://airlineroute.net/2014/05/18/ey9w-codeshare-may14/ Quote: ETIHAD from 19MAY14 will place its EY code on following Jet Airways’ routes beyond India to East Asia, which includes the following. Chennai – Singapore Delhi – Bangkok Delhi – Hong Kong * Delhi – Singapore Mumbai – Bangkok Mumbai – Hong Kong * Mumbai – Singapore * ETIHAD previously planned to start codesharing on Jet Airways’ service to Hong Kong from 19APR14, however this was ended on 20APR14. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11353 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 9:14 pm    Post subject: http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/jet-airways-looks-to-boost-its-no-frills-offering-114052001107_1.html Jet Airways looks to boost its no frills offering May 20, 2014 Jet Airways plans to move all its 18 ATR turbo prop planes to its low cost subsidiary JetLite in a possible first step towards offering only full service model under its operating permit. The move is also a part of a plan to turn around JetLite's operations. The airline has two operating permits and offers both full service and no frills service in the domestic market. While the airline management remains tight lipped about the move, airline sources say it plans to shift the 18 turbo prop planes from Jet Airways fleet to JetLite fleet. Jet Airways acquired Air Sahara and renamed it as JetLite in 2007. The result statement also indicated airline is making changes to JetLite's business model and it will revaluate its exposure at the end of the fiscal. Based on the valuation and JetLite's future results, Jet Airways may have to report an impairment of investment. According to a source the idea behind shifting ATRs to JetLite is to boost its operations and make it competitive. Under Jet Airways permit the airline operates 61 Boeing 737s and 18 ATRs. It offers both full service and no frills service (Jet Konnect) with these 78 planes. While the Boeing planes have both economy and business class, the ATRs have all economy seating and are used for no frills service only. ATRs make about 25-30% of JetAirways domestic capacity. The ATR-72s seat 62-68 passengers and fly on tier II routes and also important routes in South India including Bangalore-Chennai, Bangalore-Hyderabad amongst others. JetLite fleet has 12 Boeing 737s under a separate operating permit and these planes are used for its no frills service (Jet Konnect). JetLite had a market share of 4.3% in April and it declined from 5.3% in January, according to Directorate General of Civil Aviation data. The move to shift planes will also require support from the staff who may be transferred from Jet Airways to JetLite. The issue was discussed between the airline management and pilots last week. The pilots have sought extensive discussions with management before any decision is implemented. A section of ATR pilots are said to be worried that a move to JetLite would affect their career progression. Typically Jet Airways captains and first officers move up from Boeing 737s to wide body Airbus A330s and Boeing 777s but JetLite only has Boeing 737s. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11353 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: One of the 9W A332s leased out to EY has been returned. The former VT-JWM, leased to Etihad as A6-EYB has been re-registered as VT-JWV with Jet Airways. VT-JWM -> To Etihad as A6-EYB -> To Jet Airways as VT-JWV Back to top sri_bom Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/jet-airways-looks-to-boost-its-no-frills-offering-114052001107_1.html Jet Airways looks to boost its no frills offering May 20, 2014 Jet Airways plans to move all its 18 ATR turbo prop planes to its low cost subsidiary JetLite in a possible first step towards offering only full service model under its operating permit. The move is also a part of a plan to turn around JetLite's operations. The airline has two operating permits and offers both full service and no frills service in the domestic market. While the airline management remains tight lipped about the move, airline sources say it plans to shift the 18 turbo prop planes from Jet Airways fleet to JetLite fleet. Jet Airways acquired Air Sahara and renamed it as JetLite in 2007. The result statement also indicated airline is making changes to JetLite's business model and it will revaluate its exposure at the end of the fiscal. Based on the valuation and JetLite's future results, Jet Airways may have to report an impairment of investment. According to a source the idea behind shifting ATRs to JetLite is to boost its operations and make it competitive. Under Jet Airways permit the airline operates 61 Boeing 737s and 18 ATRs. It offers both full service and no frills service (Jet Konnect) with these 78 planes. While the Boeing planes have both economy and business class, the ATRs have all economy seating and are used for no frills service only. ATRs make about 25-30% of JetAirways domestic capacity. The ATR-72s seat 62-68 passengers and fly on tier II routes and also important routes in South India including Bangalore-Chennai, Bangalore-Hyderabad amongst others. JetLite fleet has 12 Boeing 737s under a separate operating permit and these planes are used for its no frills service (Jet Konnect). JetLite had a market share of 4.3% in April and it declined from 5.3% in January, according to Directorate General of Civil Aviation data. The move to shift planes will also require support from the staff who may be transferred from Jet Airways to JetLite. The issue was discussed between the airline management and pilots last week. The pilots have sought extensive discussions with management before any decision is implemented. A section of ATR pilots are said to be worried that a move to JetLite would affect their career progression. Typically Jet Airways captains and first officers move up from Boeing 737s to wide body Airbus A330s and Boeing 777s but JetLite only has Boeing 737s. Jet Airways pilots may strike over ATR fleet shift to JetLite due to job security and career concern News 27-May-2014 9:58 AM Jet Airways pilots are reportedly considering industrial action over the carrier's plan to shift its 18 ATR's to LCC subsidiary JetLite, due to resultant fears over job security and career progression (Times of India, 26-May-2014). Pilots reportedly expressed their concerns to management over contractual obligations between the two units, promotion opportunities, salaries and contingencies in case the LCC fails. As previously reported by CAPA, the fleet shift is an effort to boost the struggling LCC and would require lessor approval as Jet and JetLite operate under different permits. JetLite currently operates an all-Boeing 737 fleet, comprising five 737-700s, four -800s and two -900ERs with an average age of nine years, according to the CAPA Fleet Database. Back to top abhijith16 Member Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject: Jet's loss widens to Rs2,153Cr vs Rs495Cr And Cramer Ball (ex-Air Seychelles) is the new CEO of Jet Airways. _________________ <a><img></a> Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:57 pm    Post subject: abhijith16 wrote: Jet's loss widens to Rs2,153Cr vs Rs495Cr And Cramer Ball (ex-Air Seychelles) is the new CEO of Jet Airways. Is that for the quarter or the whole year. If it's for the full year, then ouch! If it's for Q4, that means over 3,500 crore down the drain in the year. Jetuna F**kata! _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top abhijith16 Member Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:06 pm    Post subject: jasepl wrote: abhijith16 wrote: Jet's loss widens to Rs2,153Cr vs Rs495Cr And Cramer Ball (ex-Air Seychelles) is the new CEO of Jet Airways. Is that for the quarter or the whole year. If it's for the full year, then ouch! If it's for Q4, that means over 3,500 crore down the drain in the year. Jetuna F**kata! It's for that quarter alone! _________________ <a><img></a> Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11353 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:31 pm    Post subject: Jet Airways have withdrawn 2 x 737-700s from the fleet. VT-JNG and VT-JNH have been ferried out from Bombay to Shannon today. Back to top jasepl Member Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 4257 Location: bund-bay Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 8:30 pm    Post subject: abhijith16 wrote: It's for that quarter alone! Wow. What was the value of Etihad's investment? Something around the same as the loss right? Gayaa dinar JetSandaas maa! 747-237 wrote: Jet Airways have withdrawn 2 x 737-700s from the fleet. VT-JNG and VT-JNH have been ferried out from Bombay to Shannon today. With those results, may as well return all of them. Except the ones needed to fly the Shuttle, of course. _________________ four years free of jetya punti! Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11353 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 9:20 pm    Post subject: http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/results/jet-posts-largest-ever-loss-plans-tough-cost-cutting-steps_1093916.html Airline advisors Seabury APG have completed a new long term network and fleet plan which would be implemented to optimise Jet's domestic and international operations. Jet would also implement measures to better delineate the individual brands of both Jet Airways and JetKonnect in the domestic market. In parallel the airline has also announced a series of initiatives to enhance its product and service offering. These include the standardisation and reconfiguration of the B737 fleet and seat count optimisation on the wide-body B777 and A330 fleets. Back to top me111993 Member Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 3225 Location: MAA/AMD Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 8:16 am    Post subject: How the F**K can you lose 2200 crores when your revenues were only 4000 crore??!??? Were you buying bloody 777s from your working capital? _________________ Causal Determinism : We are hardwired to need answers. The Caveman who heard a rustle in the bushes and checked out to see what it was, lived longer than the guy, who assumed it was just a breeze. - Greg House Back to top lavence7 Member Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Posts: 101 Location: Mumbai, India, Juhu Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject: abhijith16 wrote: Jet's loss widens to Rs2,153Cr vs Rs495Cr . Recently read something similar , big losses, about air Berlin & virgin Australia. Wonder what Etihad is really up to. Why are these the "chosen ones" by EY... Back to top Spiderguy252 Member Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4259 Location: Indian Ocean Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 2:29 pm    Post subject: lavence7 wrote: Wonder what Etihad is really up to. Why are these the "chosen ones" by EY... Well, on the face of it this is an airline that is just over ten years old and one that's posted losses itself for eight of those eleven years (or more). _________________ Yeah. Back to top 747-237 Member Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11353 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:51 pm    Post subject: Jet Airways is looking to sell 5 x A332s that are currently on lease to TK & EY. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/et-now/corporate/jet-airways-to-sell-5-a330-aircrafts-to-raise-funds/videoshow/35678079.cms Back to top iah87 Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 2566 Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 6:26 pm    Post subject: Quote: and might route its Newark flight via Abu Dhabi. Since India has been downgraded to Cat II, I dont know if Jet can change its routing. It has to remain at BOM-Brussels-Newark. MoCA and DGCA have not taken any concrete steps to get back to Cat I. I do not see any news about this at all. Perhaps with the new ministry things might get back on track. Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:15 pm    Post subject: 747-237 wrote: Jet Airways is looking to sell 5 x A332s that are currently on lease to TK & EY. And next to sell their 333s, and then to sell everything that remains. Good luck to 9W! _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top Jaysit Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346 Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:54 am    Post subject: Of course you're going to make huge losses when you have your primary assets - large, wide-bodied aircraft - sitting in the sun hatching eggs even as you purchase additional aircraft to join them. Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 11:14 am    Post subject: They first salivated about going international. Next about massive wide body orders. They acted very pricey about alliances. Then launched the massive brand konfusion. Then in desperation sold their soul to the Sheikhs. Now watch as they unwind everything - first the resistance to alliances, next the wide bodies, then the international routes (let's consider AUH as a local feeder hub only), and it's back to square one? Except for the gazillion dollars blown up! _________________ We miss you Nalini! Back to top The_Goat Member Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 11:29 am    Post subject: Indian carriers, particularly 9W, AI and KF, have been ordering aircraft in the most idiotic way. It is really a textbook case of how not to acquire capital assets. Really, I wonder how these people even got off the ground in the first place with such abysmal business acumen. You are bound to bite the dust as an airline if you order large number of widebodies you have no use for. It is a typical case of hubris getting its right desert. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes). -Jasepl Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation All times are GMT + 5.5 Hours Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next Page 7 of 10   Jump to: Select a forum New Members----------------Sign-up Guidelines Airliners-India----------------Civil AviationNon AviationTrip ReportsMilitary Aviation & SpaceInternationalAviation Polls & PreferenceTech/OpsAviation PhotographyEditorial/Analysis/ArticlesAviation HobbyAviation LawAviation Questions & CareersSite Related Flickr Group----------------Photo of the Month My Message Board----------------Pin Up  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group. 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