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justbala Member
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 1898 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: BOM-RAJ - Monopoly |
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5Patel wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | You've just answered your own question. With 4 daily flights, 9W will use aggressive marketing and loyalty to it's use, something 6E or SG have yet to successfully break in such markets. |
Maybe true but all I know is that most of the Gujjus (including me) are more loyal with money than the brand. Slightly aggressive pricing and a good timing are more than enough to fill up all the seats... Normal 9W and AI pricing is around 4000 while highs can be 10000+
BTW are there any other routes in India on which a particular airline enjoy such monopoly? |
I think 9W enjoys a near monopoly on most BOM-Gujarat routes (except AMD probably)
On other routes I can think of
BLR-IXE (5x 9W v/s 2x SG and 3 weekly IX)
BLR-IXG (2x SG) |
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iah87 Member
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abhijith16 Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:03 am Post subject: Re: BOM-RAJ - Monopoly |
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justbala wrote: | 5Patel wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | You've just answered your own question. With 4 daily flights, 9W will use aggressive marketing and loyalty to it's use, something 6E or SG have yet to successfully break in such markets. |
Maybe true but all I know is that most of the Gujjus (including me) are more loyal with money than the brand. Slightly aggressive pricing and a good timing are more than enough to fill up all the seats... Normal 9W and AI pricing is around 4000 while highs can be 10000+
BTW are there any other routes in India on which a particular airline enjoy such monopoly? |
I think 9W enjoys a near monopoly on most BOM-Gujarat routes (except AMD probably)
On other routes I can think of
BLR-IXE (5x 9W v/s 2x SG and 3 weekly IX)
BLR-IXG (2x SG) |
BLR-IXE is 2x SG and 3 weekly 9I (Air India Regional) not IX _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:37 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | Karan69 wrote: | Deb can you post the 9W widebody lease history, i think vt-jwv ie a6-eyb is back flying for jet
Karan |
Yes, that is correct. And sure, here you go :
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Clear as Mud - the 9W 77W story ... so far
VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP
VT-JEC -> To Turkish as TC-JJD -> To Thai as HS-TKT -> To Jet as VT-JES -> To Etihad as A6-JAA
VT-JED -> To Turkish as TC-JJA -> To Thai as HS-TKS -> To Jet as VT-JER -> To Etihad as A6-JAB
VT-JEE -> To Turkish as TC-JJC -> To Jet as VT-JEL (II)
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM
VT-JEG -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEG -> To Jet as VT-JEG
VT-JEH -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEH -> To Jet as VT-JEH
VT-JEJ -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEJ -> To Thai as HS-TKJ -> To Jet as VT-JEQ
VT-JEK
VT-JEL (I) -> ntu -> To Abu Dhabi Emiri Flight (V.I.P.) as A6-SIL
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VT-JEL (II) reregistered as A6-JAF, will be operating for Etihad.
This allows EY to launch SFO, and upgauge EY224/223. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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sri_bom Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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sri_bom wrote: | Jet Airways pilots suspended by India's DGCA: report
News
2-Oct-2014 10:26 AM
India's Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) reportedly suspended two Jet Airways pilots for one month and will likely enact similar measures on other pilots in coming days after investigations into allegations that Jet Airways had allowed 131 pilots to operate with lapsed licences (Financial Express, 02-Sep-2014). The move reportedly followed unsatisfactory explanation from carrier that the pilots' mandatory six-month pilot proficiency check (PPC) had lapsed because of an ambiguity in the rules governing such checks. |
DGCA audit reveals shortage of trainers at Jet Airways: report
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7-Oct-2014 9:54 AM
India's Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) audit on Jet Airways reportedly revealed that the carrier has been reduced pilot training and is facing a shortage of trainers across its ATR and Boeing fleets (Economic Times, 06-Oct-2014). The report reportedly notes: "Strength of trainers in Jet Airways training facilities is found substantially low as per the recommended strength in the Directorate General of Civil Aviation operations circular as well as training manual for all types of fleet, except Airbus 330". According to the report, the airline's training division is overlooking numerous deficiencies, with the report stating: "...in many cases signatures of trainee and trainers were missing" and also certifications by trainers and rule check forms were "not appropriately filed". Jet Airways said it underwent a DGCA audit in Aug-2014 for which it has filed all necessary res ponses with the regulator. The carrier said: "As per standard industry practice, Jet Airways will be guided by the regulator for any further action". |
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Nimish Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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^^ Jeez - I can understand compromising on the quantity of food on board, but how can a responsible airline compromise on safety? _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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ETIHAD operated by Jet Airways Aircraft A330-200
Abu Dhabi Hyderabad (EY274/275, eff 01FEB15)
Abu Dhabi Johannesburg (EY604/603)
Abu Dhabi Kuala Lumpur (EY416/413, until 31JAN15)
Abu Dhabi Lagos (EY671/672)
Abu Dhabi Riyadh (EY317/318, eff 01FEB15)
ETIHAD operated by Jet Airways Aircraft Boeing 777-300ER
Abu Dhabi Delhi (EY224/223, eff 18NOV14)
Abu Dhabi Dhaka (EY258/253, 6 weekly)
Abu Dhabi Kuala Lumpur (EY418/411, eff 01FEB15)
Abu Dhabi New York JFK (EY103/102) *
Abu Dhabi San Francisco (eff 18NOV14) **
Source: Airlineroute.net
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* : Operated by VT-JES as A6-JAA; VT-JER as A6-JAB
[US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) facility at Abu Dhabi Airport is not available for the Etihad Airways flight number EY103 to New York (JFK).]
** : Operated by VT-JEL as A6-JAF _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Jeh Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 669 Location: Delhi, India
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | ETIHAD operated by Jet Airways Aircraft A330-200
Abu Dhabi Hyderabad (EY274/275, eff 01FEB15)
Abu Dhabi Johannesburg (EY604/603)
Abu Dhabi Kuala Lumpur (EY416/413, until 31JAN15)
Abu Dhabi Lagos (EY671/672)
Abu Dhabi Riyadh (EY317/318, eff 01FEB15)
ETIHAD operated by Jet Airways Aircraft Boeing 777-300ER
Abu Dhabi Delhi (EY224/223, eff 18NOV14)
Abu Dhabi Dhaka (EY258/253, 6 weekly)
Abu Dhabi Kuala Lumpur (EY418/411, eff 01FEB15)
Abu Dhabi New York JFK (EY103/102) *
Abu Dhabi San Francisco (eff 18NOV14) **
Source: Airlineroute.net
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* : Operated by VT-JES as A6-JAA; VT-JER as A6-JAB
[US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) facility at Abu Dhabi Airport is not available for the Etihad Airways flight number EY103 to New York (JFK).]
** : Operated by VT-JEL as A6-JAF |
My god, this is confusing
I take it all these, including the Jet-aircraft-with-Emirati-registration, are operated by Jet crew? |
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747-237 Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11354 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Jeh wrote: |
My god, this is confusing
I take it all these, including the Jet-aircraft-with-Emirati-registration, are operated by Jet crew? |
Indeed !
The "ETIHAD operated by Jet Airways" marketed flights :
Abu Dhabi New York JFK (EY103/102) [Operated by VT-JES as A6-JAA; VT-JER as A6-JAB]
Abu Dhabi San Francisco [Operated by VT-JEL as A6-JAF]
are Jet-aircraft-with-Emirati-registration (Jet Airways livery, UAE reg., but still not qualifying for USCBP pre-clearance at AUH), and operated by Etihad crew. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Nimish Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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From: http://www.businessinsider.in/Jet-Airways-Faces-Tough-Time-After-DGCA-Grounds-Its-Pilots/articleshow/44823425.cms
Quote: | Jet Airways Faces Tough Time After DGCA Grounds Its Pilots
Loss-making Jet Airways is facing shortage of pilots after the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) grounded more than hundred of its pilots since they didn't meet the license requirement. This shortage had resulted into a delay in more than 150 flights on Sunday and Monday.
The DGCA recently issued show cause notices to 131 pilots at Jet for lapsed proficiency check certificates. These are issued after pilots undergo two test flights on simulators every year.
It is important to note, this isn't the only instance of incomplete documentation. Recently, Jet Airways discovered that three of its pilots were flying without valid annual line check certificates. For those who are wondering what line check certification is? It's a process wherein a trainer monitors pilot's flying skills by sitting in the cockpit through a flight. The main reason behind this is to ensure that all defined norms are followed in letter and spirit.
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Whoa - what's happening here? Is 9W really slacking off? _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/jet-airways-deploys-wide-body-planes-on-local-routes-114101600700_1.html
Jet Airways deploys wide body planes on local routes
October 17, 2014
Jet Airways has said it is deploying wide-bodied aircraft on domestic routes. This follows a shortage of pilots for its Boeing 737 fleet, which has resulted in flight delays through the past few days. It is also working on a stepped-up training and transfer schedule of pilots from JetLite to Jet Airways, in line with DGCA (Directorate of Civil Aviation) guidelines, the airline said.
Jet, however, didnt specify which wide-bodied aircraft (Boeing 777 or Airbus A330) were being used. The reason the airline is seeing a shortage of crew is 25-30 Boeing 737 pilots have been deputed to Etihad Airways are undergoing training on for Boeing 777 aircraft. This has grounded a few Boeing 737 of JetLite, Jets subsidiary. The pilots will be on deputation to Etihad for a year. We are facing a shortage of pilots. Often, pilots are being requested at a short notice and, at the end of flights, they are asked whether they can manage additional flights. In the duty roster, there is no mention of the crew for a large number of flights
the space is blank, said a source.
While Jet Airways confirmed flight delays, it didnt comment on the deputation of pilots to Etihad. The disruption was due to the compounding effect of several issues, including the unforeseen maintenance requirements on JetLite aircraft, training and certification requirements at Jet Airways and the pending transfer of JetLite pilots to Jet Airways to meet the needs of the expanded schedule, the airline said.
"Jet Airways is deploying international wide body aircraft on the domestic sector to re-accommodate its guests and is also working on a stepped-up training and transfer schedule of pilots from JetLite to Jet Airways in line with DGCA guidelines,'' it added.
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | [i]Jet Airways deploys wide body planes on local routes | When I flew out of DEL T3 yesterday (17 Oct), I was amazed to see a Jet A332 at a domestic gate. I was on AI 864 DEL-IXC. Why doesn't Jet advertise this widely, at least on their website?
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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sumantra wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | [i]Jet Airways deploys wide body planes on local routes | When I flew out of DEL T3 yesterday (17 Oct), I was amazed to see a Jet A332 at a domestic gate. I was on AI 864 DEL-IXC. Why doesn't Jet advertise this widely, at least on their website?
Cheers, Sumantra. |
Which domestic routes is 9W using the A332 for? Is it only BOM-DEL or to other cities too? _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | Which domestic routes is 9W using the A332 for? Is it only BOM-DEL or to other cities too? | I did not catch the rego at the airport since I was rushing in for my flight, but FR24 shows that it was VT-JWQ, an A332, doing the popular 9W302 DEL-BOM flight. I do not know about the other operations: this was just something that caught my eye as I was huffing and puffing towards my gate (28A). 9W have WB domestic ops only one in a blue moon: it should not cost them much to advertise this on email and the web at least. At least we aviation enthusiasts will be interested. A well-filled A332 will not do badly on a 2 hour DEL-BOM run, and will do even better on the 2.5 hour (DEL-MAA/BLR) runs, but will 9W get enough passengers to fill their planes? And that too, without advertising this widely? Even if this means clubbing a few flights?
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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Jeh Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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I've often noticed an A330 on the BOM-BLR-BOM, 9W483/442 evening run, departing BOM at 6 pm and returning to BOM at 10:30 pm. Looking at Flightradar24's logs, the use of the A330 seems sporadic, so probably an equipment sub - but I don't seem to notice them being used in this way on any other route.
Btw, I noticed this phenomenon because I had to meet somebody arriving on the 442 at BOM and there was an equipment change to A330-300. I can tell you it's a real pain in the neck when your domestic flight gets switched to a widebody, at least on Jet - you can't park on the domestic apron as there's no bay large enough to accommodate it, so you exit the runway at the domestic apron end on Rwy. 27, taxi the length of the airport to the international apron, then take a bus all the way back to the domestic terminal!
This being Jet, my friend ranted that they seemed totally unprepared for the equipment change and doors didn't open for almost twenty minutes after engine shutdown - then there weren't any buses available, ergo another fifteen minutes waiting for a bus, then people were crammed into few available buses (including J pax). Shambolic. |
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jbalonso777 Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: |
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VT-JWQ has flown on the BOM-DEL-BOM route (Sumantra sir has affirmed this), followed by BOM-AMD-BOM and BOM-BLR-BOM.
I just checked FR24 and all of 9W's wide body planes: they're all flying around, I don't think there are any of them sunbathing anywhere...but I could be wrong..
Regards
Jish _________________ http://www.youtube.com/c/JishnuBasu777 |
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Nimish Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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jbalonso777 wrote: | VT-JWQ has flown on the BOM-DEL-BOM route (Sumantra sir has affirmed this), followed by BOM-AMD-BOM and BOM-BLR-BOM.
I just checked FR24 and all of 9W's wide body planes: they're all flying around, I don't think there are any of them sunbathing anywhere...but I could be wrong..
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Good - the pilots shortage has benefited the wide bodies, at least they are catching some action now .
Of course why 9W has a pilot shortage is beyond me. There's enough and more unemployed rookie pilots in the country, who would be willing to join 9W at a moment's notice. Sure - training/ certification takes time, but then that's the only thing which is free, isn't it? _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Nimish wrote: | jbalonso777 wrote: | VT-JWQ has flown on the BOM-DEL-BOM route (Sumantra sir has affirmed this), followed by BOM-AMD-BOM and BOM-BLR-BOM.
I just checked FR24 and all of 9W's wide body planes: they're all flying around, I don't think there are any of them sunbathing anywhere...but I could be wrong..
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Good - the pilots shortage has benefited the wide bodies, at least they are catching some action now .
Of course why 9W has a pilot shortage is beyond me. There's enough and more unemployed rookie pilots in the country, who would be willing to join 9W at a moment's notice. Sure - training/ certification takes time, but then that's the only thing which is free, isn't it? |
Had they been looking after training / certification, this time wouldnt have come on them ! _________________ www.networkthoughts.com |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Turkish is getting ready to return the leased Jet Airways 777-300ERs, which are expected to rejoin 9Ws fleet with existing VT regns in the near future.
VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Nimish Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | Turkish is getting ready to return the leased Jet Airways 777-300ERs, which are expected to rejoin 9Ws fleet with existing VT regns in the near future.
VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM |
And I guess farmed out to EY again - as 9W has no use for them? Might as well go straight from Turkish to EY, why come to India/ DGCA and so on? _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.newsvoir.com/release/jetprivilege-introduces-a-unique-programme-enhancement-with-myfamily-2049.html
JetPrivilege Introduces a Unique Programme Enhancement With MyFamily+
JetPrivilege members based in India can pool in JPMiles of nominated family members and redeem them for Award Tickets
JetPrivilege, the internationally acclaimed, award-winning loyalty rewards and frequent flyer programme of Jet Airways, today announced the launch of a novel programme enhancement, MyFamily+.Aptly titled MyFamily+, this new programme feature allows JetPrivilege members to connect and link their nominated family members accountsinto a single MyFamily+ association. The pooled JPMiles can then be redeemed for award tickets on Jet Airways or any of its 20 airline partners that span over 6000 destinations.
About MyFamily+
To set up a MyFamily+ association you first need to become a JetPrivilege member and then decide who will be the Head of the Family (HOF). The Head of Family can then initiate the MyFamily+ association by inviting up to 7 members of the immediate family. Even children (ages two to eleven years) can now join the JetPrivilege programme with the introduction of this new feature.
The Head of Family will have the sole authority to pool-in JPMiles from the individual family members accounts at the time of redemption.The Head of the Family will also be the only person who can add or remove Members or change the home address.The Members of the family (MOF) will continue to collect Tier Points and move through the tiers of the JetPrivilege elite status individually and can also redeem JPMiles from their own account on an individual basis.
The programme is open to JetPrivilege members residing in India. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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avbuff Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Jet Airways delays launch of AUH - AMD, AUH-PNQ, DOH-CCJ and DOH-TRV to 15th March. |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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avbuff wrote: | Jet Airways delays launch of AUH - AMD, AUH-PNQ, DOH-CCJ and DOH-TRV to 15th March. |
And also the DEL-PNQ, PNQ-DEL night halt has been cancelled along with the international feeder BOM-PNQ flight _________________ www.networkthoughts.com |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Jet Airways have added a new 737-800 to the fleet today, as VT-JFZ. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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basheer1211 Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Jet Airways' chief commercial officer Subodh Karnik resigns
Quote: | In the latest senior level exit at Jet Airways, chief commercial officer (designate) Subodh Karnik has quit the company. Karnik's departure is the eighth such in the last few months and since Etihad Airlines acquired a 24% stake in the embattled airline .
"Subodh Karnik, Chief Commercial Officer (Designate) will be leaving Jet Airways for family reasons and is returning to Atlanta to be closer to his wife and children who were unable to move to India," a spokesperson for the airline told Business Standard. "He will continue to work with Jet Airways in an advisory capacity on key strategic initiatives." |
Read more at Business Standard _________________
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:17 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | Jet Airways have added a new 737-800 to the fleet today, as VT-JFZ. |
There's the JF series wrapped up then. _________________ Yeah. |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:20 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | Turkish is getting ready to return the leased Jet Airways 777-300ERs, which are expected to rejoin 9Ws fleet with existing VT regns in the near future.
VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM |
The 3 77Ws are to be repainted in 9W colors at SAW (VT-JEM is already in the process of), retain their existing VT regns, and re-delivered to 9W.
Two of the above will then join EY in 9W colors and possibly be re-registered with A6 regns (akin to sister ships VT-JES as A6-JAA; & VT-JER as A6-JAB).
At this time, the following seems to be the latest iteration of my list (to be updated next when we know which 2 airframes will be joining EY next).
Clear as Mud - the 9W 77W story ... so far
VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN -> To Jet as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP -> To Jet as VT-JEP
VT-JEC -> To Turkish as TC-JJD -> To Thai as HS-TKT -> To Jet as VT-JES -> To Etihad as A6-JAA
VT-JED -> To Turkish as TC-JJA -> To Thai as HS-TKS -> To Jet as VT-JER -> To Etihad as A6-JAB
VT-JEE -> To Turkish as TC-JJC -> To Jet as VT-JEL (II) -> To Etihad as A6-JAF
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM -> To Jet as VT-JEM
VT-JEG -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEG -> To Jet as VT-JEG
VT-JEH -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEH -> To Jet as VT-JEH
VT-JEJ -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEJ -> To Thai as HS-TKJ -> To Jet as VT-JEQ
VT-JEK
VT-JEL (I) -> ntu -> To Abu Dhabi Emiri Flight (V.I.P.) as A6-SIL _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Jeh Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:43 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | Turkish is getting ready to return the leased Jet Airways 777-300ERs, which are expected to rejoin 9Ws fleet with existing VT regns in the near future.
VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM |
The 3 77Ws are to be repainted in 9W colors at SAW (VT-JEM is already in the process of), retain their existing VT regns, and re-delivered to 9W.
Two of the above will then join EY in 9W colors and possibly be re-registered with A6 regns (akin to sister ships VT-JES as A6-JAA; & VT-JER as A6-JAB).
At this time, the following seems to be the latest iteration of my list (to be updated next when we know which 2 airframes will be joining EY next).
Clear as Mud - the 9W 77W story ... so far
VT-JEA -> To Thai as HS-TKG -> To Jet as VT-JEN -> To Turkish as VT-JEN -> To Jet as VT-JEN
VT-JEB -> To Thai as HS-TKH -> To Jet as VT-JEP -> To Turkish as VT-JEP -> To Jet as VT-JEP
VT-JEC -> To Turkish as TC-JJD -> To Thai as HS-TKT -> To Jet as VT-JES -> To Etihad as A6-JAA
VT-JED -> To Turkish as TC-JJA -> To Thai as HS-TKS -> To Jet as VT-JER -> To Etihad as A6-JAB
VT-JEE -> To Turkish as TC-JJC -> To Jet as VT-JEL (II) -> To Etihad as A6-JAF
VT-JEF -> To Turkish as TC-JJB -> To Jet as VT-JEM -> To Turkish as VT-JEM -> To Jet as VT-JEM
VT-JEG -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEG -> To Jet as VT-JEG
VT-JEH -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEH -> To Jet as VT-JEH
VT-JEJ -> To Gulf Air as VT-JEJ -> To Thai as HS-TKJ -> To Jet as VT-JEQ
VT-JEK
VT-JEL (I) -> ntu -> To Abu Dhabi Emiri Flight (V.I.P.) as A6-SIL |
9W's leasing strategy seems to be inspired by the plot of Inception |
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Nimish Member
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Jeh wrote: | 9W's leasing strategy seems to be inspired by the plot of Inception |
It actually sound more like "Edge of Tomorrow" to me.
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ha ha ha ha
Hilarious, and very apt! _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:07 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | The 3 77Ws are to be repainted in 9W colors at SAW (VT-JEM is already in the process of), retain their existing VT regns, and re-delivered to 9W. |
VT-JEM has been returned to 9W and ferried to DEL today. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Jet Airways confirms Directorate General of Civil Aviation safety drill on 27-Oct-2014
News
3-Nov-2014 9:50 AM
India's Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) reportedly took nearly 40 Jet Airways crew members off flying duty on 27-Oct-2014 for failing a safety drill to test evacuation of passengers in case of an emergency (financialexpress.com, 03-Nov-2014). Jet Airways responded to the reports, stating: A DGCA certification drill was conducted on 27th October for the A330 aircraft where certain observations were made by the DGCA and airline has made a note and will accordingly carry out the required changes. Jet Airways would like to clarify that there were no suspensions. The crew will go through the drill again in the coming week. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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B777 VT-JEM flew as 9W 354 from Delhi to Mumbai yesterday. |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | The 3 77Ws are to be repainted in 9W colors at SAW (VT-JEM is already in the process of), retain their existing VT regns, and re-delivered to 9W. |
VT-JEM has been returned to 9W and ferried to DEL today. |
VT-JEN has been ferried to Abu Dhabi today to be repainted in possibly EY colors. This might indicate JEN & JEP going directly to EY rather than returning to 9W colors first. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Jeh Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | 747-237 wrote: | The 3 77Ws are to be repainted in 9W colors at SAW (VT-JEM is already in the process of), retain their existing VT regns, and re-delivered to 9W. |
VT-JEM has been returned to 9W and ferried to DEL today. |
VT-JEN has been ferried to Abu Dhabi today to be repainted in possibly EY colors. This might indicate JEN & JEP going directly to EY rather than returning to 9W colors first. |
Their poor widebodies must have turned schizophrenic by now. |
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basheer1211 Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:06 pm Post subject: Jet posts profit in Q2 due to JP sale |
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Jet Airways (India) Ltd has announced the following results for the quarter ended September 30, 2014:
The Unaudited Standalone results for the Quarter ended September 30, 2014
The Company has posted a net profit of Rs. 698.20 million for the quarter ended September 30, 2014 as compared to net loss Rs. (8910.10) million for the quarter ended September 30, 2013. Total Income has increased from Rs. 42677.70 million for the quarter ended September 30, 2013 to Rs. 50157.20 million for the quarter ended September 30, 2014.
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iah87 Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Finally some good news for Jet. May be the investment and involvement of EY is beginning to pay off.
Oil prices may have something to do with it. But there are still headwinds in the domestic market, Vistara will be a direct competitor and after 5/20 rule is relaxed to 1 year, Vistara and others could poach some of the traffic away from Jet. |
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:32 am Post subject: |
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iah87 wrote: | Finally some good news for Jet. May be the investment and involvement of EY is beginning to pay off.
Oil prices may have something to do with it. But there are still headwinds in the domestic market, Vistara will be a direct competitor and after 5/20 rule is relaxed to 1 year, Vistara and others could poach some of the traffic away from Jet. |
Believe it when you see it. They have four sparkling new planes but are yet to carry their first passenger. _________________ Yeah. |
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