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| HAWK21M wrote: | | 9w seems to be trying to pick maximum at cheap rates. |
Mel - what exactly are you talking about?
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Jet to reduce DEL/MAA - SIN to 1 Daily eff 14/15MAR.
9W20/19 DEL-SIN cxld
9W22/21 MAA-SIN cxld
This maybe due to a combo of poor yields on MAA-SIN, and the fact that the aircraft removed will be used to launch AMD/PNQ - AUH.
With this, 9W will no longer sell MAA-SIN-Oz connections
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| abhijith16 wrote: | Jet to reduce DEL/MAA - SIN to 1 Daily eff 14/15MAR.
9W20/19 DEL-SIN cxld
9W22/21 MAA-SIN cxld
This maybe due to a combo of poor yields on MAA-SIN, and the fact that the aircraft removed will be used to launch AMD/PNQ - AUH.
With this, 9W will no longer sell MAA-SIN-Oz connections |
Has AI over a period of time dented 9W on MAA-SIN ?
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| ameya wrote: | | Has AI over a period of time dented 9W on MAA-SIN ? |
I guess Abhijeeth puts it rather succinctly: this is a high volume low-yield market, and 9W being the newer player, and perhaps with inputs from Etihad, would have cut it even though it had some neat Oz connections, which are perhaps not that common in today's times. Air India has traditionally catered to this strong O&D market, and perhaps right from the IC 555 (MAA-SIN) A300 and the pre-merger Air India AI 442 (SIN-MAA) days, has had some good brand loyalty, and some traditional demand. Currently, AI perhaps have the best aircraft type for a high volume low-yield market. They had two flights a day on the A332s (another aircraft suitable for such runs: the best one after the Dream)liner), and now, it is once a day on the Dream)liner. AI also offers one-stops via DEL: an A321-Dream)liner combination, but I doubt if the one-stop would have many takers unless they price them attractively, and there is heavy seasonal demand. DEL-SIN is an interesting market, also amenable to the Dream)liner's economics. With the Dream)liner on even the comparatively shorter regional international routes, AI perhaps have the best chance for good returns. Jet on the other hand would be hit by the delicate capacity-economics balance ,with the B737s having good economics for the high volume low yield MAA-SIN route, but less capacity.
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| ameya wrote: | | abhijith16 wrote: | Jet to reduce DEL/MAA - SIN to 1 Daily eff 14/15MAR.
9W20/19 DEL-SIN cxld
9W22/21 MAA-SIN cxld
This maybe due to a combo of poor yields on MAA-SIN, and the fact that the aircraft removed will be used to launch AMD/PNQ - AUH.
With this, 9W will no longer sell MAA-SIN-Oz connections |
Has AI over a period of time dented 9W on MAA-SIN ? |
TR/MH/SQ/AK and AI. All 5 have been aggressively discounting. Like you said, MAA-South East Asia is pretty low yield, high volume.
And as Sumantra sir says, AI putting Dream)Liner was the final nail in the coffin.
9W, off late, has been giving up routes that are high-volume, low yielding. Case in point, MAA-KUL/CMB and CCU-BKK
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Intersting to note 9W is looking at diverse fleet. Not sure how well the Q400 will meet 9W requirments.
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Jet Airways advertises for Q400 first officers and line captains
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Jet Airways, on its website, stated (Jan-2015) it is looking to recruit pilots familiar with Bombardier Q400 aircraft, raising speculation that the carrier might take over the turboprops from SpiceJet (Mumbai Mirror, 04-Jan-2015). SpiceJet is the only only Indian airline that owns and operates Q400s, with 15 of the aircraft type. The recruitment ad does not mention the number of positions Jet Airways is looking to fill. |
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| abhijith16 wrote: | Jet to reduce DEL/MAA - SIN to 1 Daily eff 14/15MAR.
9W20/19 DEL-SIN cxld
9W22/21 MAA-SIN cxld
This maybe due to a combo of poor yields on MAA-SIN, and the fact that the aircraft removed will be used to launch AMD/PNQ - AUH.
With this, 9W will no longer sell MAA-SIN-Oz connections |
Quite a shame - 9W can't manage a 2nd flight while SQ brings in the 380++. Still - better to be prudent and focus on your areas of strength - which looks (unsurprisingly) like feeding traffic to AUH.
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| sri_bom wrote: | Intersting to note 9W is looking at diverse fleet. Not sure how well the Q400 will meet 9W requirments.
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They are looking at good pilots, not at the Q400 itself. The pilots will probably be cross trained on what ever 9W wishes to deploy them on (probably ATRs as they are rumored to be buying another 15)
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Jet had planned to transfer all ATR to Jet Lite to run low cost operation first half of last year .As reported in press also , jet pilot refused to get transferred to Jet Lite . Due to this aircraft transfer was not done . Spice Q400 pilots are most vulnerable as again media report indicates that new investor in Spice will like it to go back original business plan of single type aircraft . Jet is trying to get trained turbo prop pilots ( on it’s term ) for Jet Lite convert them to ATR and then transfer all ATR from Jet to Jet Lite … Jet will become full service airline supporting AUH hub from Indian and providing full service in metro .. Jet Lite with all economy low cost will be domestic and operating all sectors vacated by Jet airways ATR pilot remain in Jet will be converted to B737 operation
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| bob wrote: | | Jet had planned to transfer all ATR to Jet Lite to run low cost operation first half of last year .As reported in press also , jet pilot refused to get transferred to Jet Lite . Due to this aircraft transfer was not done . |
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:41 am
http://profit.ndtv.com/news/corporates/article-jet-airways-shelves-plan-to-transfer-atr-turboprop-fleet-to-subsidiary-report-709778
Jet Airways Shelves Plan to Transfer ATR Turboprop Fleet to Subsidiary
December 07, 2014
Jet Airways is believed to have shelved a plan to transfer its ATR turboprop aircraft fleet to the subsidiary JetLite for now, owing to the regulatory complexities and costs issues.
Jet currently has 18 ATRs in its fleet, which cater to the airline's regional routes, while JetLite has a total fleet of 11 Boeing 737 planes.
"Jet Airways had plans to transfer its entire fleet of ATR aircraft to its subsidiary airline JetLite. This was part of the airline's overall profitability plan. However, after toying with the idea for quite some time, it has dropped the plan due to technical reasons and cost issues," an airline source told PTI.
"At Jet Airways we continually evaluate our fleet vis-a-vis planned deployment across our operational network, with a sharp focus on profitability. Our ATR fleet is also part of this evaluation and we will be in a position to share the details once we arrive at any decision," a Jet Airways spokesperson said in response to a text message by PTI.
"In this case, all the 18 aircraft would have to be deregistered first and sent out to the lessor and then registered again. Besides, the process also involves huge costs. Therefore, the airline has at this stage decided to not to go ahead with the plan," the source said.
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http://www.traveldailymedia.com/216684/jet-airways-secures-us150m-loan/
Jet Airways secures US$150m loan
6th January, 2015
Jet Airways has concluded a five-year loan worth US$150 million from the Middle East.
The syndicated loan facility was agreed with Mashreqbank, and subscribed to by banks spread across the Middle East region, including Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain and Doha.
The loan forms part of Jet's three-year turnaround plan.
The airline’s CEO, Cramer Ball, said the loan would allow Jet to “re-establish ourselves as the country’s leading full-service airline”.
“We will continue to build on this strong foundation as part of our three-year turnaround plan. This syndicated loan facility will be instrumental in underpinning the airline on this progressive path,” he added.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/jet-airways-hires-professional-services-firm-alvarez-marsal-to-help-it-clock-profits/articleshow/45801670.cms
Jet Airways hires professional services firm Alvarez & Marsal to help it clock profits
8 Jan, 2015
Jet Airways has hired professional services firm Alvarez & Marsal (A&M) to help it turn around within a year, a development that comes months after it sold a 24% stake to United Arab Emirates-based Etihad Airways.
The Mumbai-based carrier has mandated A&M to help it clock profits for 12 months in a row, executives familiar with the matter said on condition of anonymity, adding that the company could turn around in the coming quarters even as its competitors and industry analysts remain sceptical.
"Jet Airways is working with A&M on initiatives that support the airline's return to profitability. The A&M team is working with the airline's senior management team to support the development and execution of business improvement initiatives designed to enhance Jet Airways' overall business performance," an official spokesperson for Jet Airways told ET.
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Is this mandated by EY? Otherwise won't EY have their own expertise to share?
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| 747-237 wrote: | | Jeh wrote: |
My god, this is confusing 
I take it all these, including the Jet-aircraft-with-Emirati-registration, are operated by Jet crew? |
Indeed !
The "ETIHAD operated by Jet Airways" marketed flights :
Abu Dhabi – New York JFK (EY103/102) [Operated by VT-JES as A6-JAA; VT-JER as A6-JAB]
Abu Dhabi – San Francisco [Operated by VT-JEL as A6-JAF]
are Jet-aircraft-with-Emirati-registration (Jet Airways livery, UAE reg., but still not qualifying for USCBP pre-clearance at AUH), and operated by Etihad crew. |
http://www.etihad.com/en-us/about-us/news/archive/2014/united-states-preclearance-at-abu-dhabi-airport-set-to-operate-for-all-us-bound-flights/
United States Preclearance at Abu Dhabi Airport Set to Operate for All US-Bound Flights
12 Jan 2015
Air travellers on all Etihad Airways flights to the United States from this week will be able to experience the benefits of arriving in the US having precleared US Customs and Border Protection at Abu Dhabi Airport.
From Thursday 15 January US preclearance will open for the early morning EY103 to New York JFK and EY183 to San Francisco flights, both of which conveniently connect with inbound services from Mumbai, Delhi and other cities in India and the Indian Subcontinent.
The new early morning US preclearance operation complements the mid-morning one which caters for Etihad Airways passengers on flights to Chicago, Dallas-Fort Worth, Los Angeles, New York JFK, and Washington, D.C., who all proceed through the facility.
Peter Baumgartner, Etihad Airways’ Chief Commercial Officer, said: “We’re delighted that from this Thursday all air travellers flying to the United States from Abu Dhabi will enjoy the benefits that US customs and immigration preclearance offers.
“Since its opening in January last year, the US preclearance has been extremely popular with air travellers, particularly those from the Indian Subcontinent and Middle East region. More than 325,000 people have passed through the facility, arriving in the United States as domestic passengers.”
The preclearance process provides passengers with the unique opportunity to pass through all required checks including US customs, immigration and security conveniently while in Abu Dhabi before they board their flight to the US, enabling them to avoid queues on arrival.
Another key benefit of US preclearance is that baggage security screening meets United States TSA security standards, allowing air travellers who connect onto a US domestic flight to have their baggage checked through from Abu Dhabi to their final destination.
US preclearance at Abu Dhabi Airport is the only one of its kind in the Middle East, and the United Arab Emirates’ capital is one of a small group of airports around the world to offer passengers preclearance into the US.
During its first 12 months of operation, the US preclearance in Abu Dhabi has improved the passenger experience through the introduction of automated passport control (APC) kiosks and greater numbers of officer processing desks.
The self-service APC kiosks expedite the US entry process for American, Canadian, and eligible visa waiver program (VWP) international travellers, by providing an automated process through US preclearance’s primary inspection area.
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^^ Good - now all the US bound flights will go through the same checks, and there's no confusion on different baggage handling needed. Hope the desks are staffed adequately to allow for the volumes expected, and the AUH Min Connection Time for US bound flights revised to make it clear that this is not a simple transit, but might take 90-120 minutes to complete.
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Was trying to book a ticket home on the 9W site, and got a pop-up message saying that BLR-TRV flight will land at the International terminal instead of the domestic one. Is this a permanent change?
The a/c goes on to do the DMM sector, so the positioning basically makes sense.
Funnily the TRV-BLR sector is still from the domestic terminal. |
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| 747-237 wrote: | | United States Preclearance at Abu Dhabi Airport Set to Operate for All US-Bound Flights |
Now we're discussing pure Etihad-related topics in the Jet thread.
The circuit is indeed complete.
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| jasepl wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | United States Preclearance at Abu Dhabi Airport Set to Operate for All US-Bound Flights |
Now we're discussing pure Etihad-related topics in the Jet thread.
The circuit is indeed complete. |
Jason, this referred to
From Thursday 15 January US preclearance will open for the early morning EY103 to New York JFK and EY183 to San Francisco flights, both of which conveniently connect with inbound services from Mumbai, Delhi and other cities in India and the Indian Subcontinent.
which are Jet Airways metal ....
| 747-237 wrote: | The "ETIHAD operated by Jet Airways" marketed flights :
Abu Dhabi – New York JFK (EY103/102) [Operated by VT-JES as A6-JAA; VT-JER as A6-JAB]
Abu Dhabi – San Francisco [Operated by VT-JEL as A6-JAF]
are Jet-aircraft-with-Emirati-registration (Jet Airways livery, UAE reg., but still not qualifying for USCBP pre-clearance at AUH), and operated by Etihad crew. |
.... and have been the source of pandemonium when it comes to pre-clearance at AUH.
Besides, it's all over the jetairways.com home page as well.
http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/ProductAndServices/PassengerInformation.aspx
U.S. Immigration and Custom Preclearance at Abu Dhabi International Airport
The United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP) facility at Terminal 3 in Abu Dhabi Airport is a purpose-built facility that allows U.S. bound guests to undertake all immigration, customs and agriculture inspections in Abu Dhabi prior to departure.
Effective January 15, 2015, guests traveling on codeshare / interline flights on Etihad Airways to New York, San Francisco, Chicago, Washington DC, Dallas and Los Angeles from Mumbai, Delhi, Chennai, Bengaluru, Kochi, Hyderabad, Lucknow and Goa can avail of the CBP facility at Abu Dhabi Airport.
Abu Dhabi Airport is one of only a handful of airports outside North America that offers the CBP facility.
Having cleared CBP, guests can check-in their baggage through to their final destination in the United States.
On reaching the United States, guests will be treated as domestic arrivals, which allows for faster processing at their arrival airport and permits shorter connection times for the onward flights.
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http://profit.ndtv.com/news/corporates/article-naresh-goyal-pledges-his-entire-51-stake-in-jet-airways-to-pnb-726750
Naresh Goyal Pledges His Entire 51% Stake in Jet Airways
January 14, 2015
Naresh Goyal has pledged his entire shareholding in the carrier of 51 per cent, valued at over Rs 2,600 crore, to state-run Punjab National Bank.
The airline, in a regulatory filing this evening, said Goyal has pledged his entire 57,933,665 shares constituting 51 per cent holding in the airline effective January 8 to PNB with a "non-disposal undertaking".
The reason for pledging of shares was not disclosed.
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| 747-237 wrote: | [i]Naresh Goyal Pledges His Entire 51% Stake in Jet Airways
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Wow - is this for real? That's a lot of cash coming his way in lieu of those shares. Or is it because he's not able to pay back loans and now giving the shares as collateral?
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In a statement the airline said that the undertaking given to PNB is “an undertaking of non-disposal of any further equity and not a matter of pledging of his shares”.
“Jet Airways would like to categorically state, for the benefit of all its stakeholders, that the undertaking given to PNB implies that the airline’s promoter and chairman will not dilute his equity, by way of a sale, below 51 per cent at any time, and will continue to be the majority shareholder in the airline,” it said.
http://www.financialexpress.com/article/markets/naresh-goyal-not-to-bring-down-holding-below-51-jet-airways/29963/
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And well advertised via email as well today .....
Now arrive in USA as a domestic passenger with Jet Airways.
Now fly with us and enjoy U.S. Immigration preclearance only at Abu Dhabi International Airport.
With this facility, you can now clear U.S. Customs and Border Protection formalities before you board your onward flight from Abu Dhabi to the United States.
This means you enjoy a shorter connecting time for onward flights, skip immigration and customs in the USA and have your baggage checked through to your final destination.
With our partner Etihad Airways, you can now arrive as a domestic passenger in the United States.
The United States Preclearance facility is located at Terminal 3 of the Abu Dhabi International Airport.
To book your tickets visit jetairways.com, etihad.com or contact your nearest travel agent.
Regards,
Belson Coutinho
Vice President - Marketing, eCommerce & Innovations
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| indopaki wrote: | | Do they plan to end S2 code by giving up Jetlite AOC, or will that continue? |
At this time there are no more Jet Airways flights using the S2 code.
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| Sorry for asking again but is it like a BA/BMED arrangement where that airline operated as BA with BA codes and all, or has Jetlite closed down in every form? integrated into Jet Airways? |
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| indopaki wrote: | | ....has Jetlite closed down in every form? integrated into Jet Airways? |
No need to apologize; and yes, the above is true to the best of my knowledge.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | indopaki wrote: | | Do they plan to end S2 code by giving up Jetlite AOC, or will that continue? |
At this time there are no more Jet Airways flights using the S2 code. |
Now all the flights with S2 code are those of JetKonnect.
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| The_Goat wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | indopaki wrote: | | Do they plan to end S2 code by giving up Jetlite AOC, or will that continue? |
At this time there are no more Jet Airways flights using the S2 code. |
Now all the flights with S2 code are those of JetKonnect. |
Where do you see those S2 flights ? Jet Airways' flight schedule shows only 9W code.
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| 747-237 wrote: | | The_Goat wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | indopaki wrote: | | Do they plan to end S2 code by giving up Jetlite AOC, or will that continue? |
At this time there are no more Jet Airways flights using the S2 code. |
Now all the flights with S2 code are those of JetKonnect. |
Where do you see those S2 flights ? Jet Airways' flight schedule shows only 9W code. |
It still shows on FR24, but that's down purely to operational reasons, and the whole AOP saga.
For example, VT-SJI operating is flight S24324 from Ahmedabad to Mumbai, according to FR24.
While the callsign would still be S24324, passengers and travel agents, MMT/Yatra and the like would be shown as 9W7104.
Ameya sir wrote a fantastic blog post about it, it clears all of the doubts 
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| jbalonso777 wrote: | | Oh and also, zero penalty fees on Jet if you cancel/change a booking within an hour of it being done (on Jet's website and mobile app only) , via the Manage My Booking facility. |
This is a rather unique feature, which no other India-based airline offers.. I guess you had an unintentional typo, above: 24 hours till 1 hour of departure.
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| jbalonso777 wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | The_Goat wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | indopaki wrote: | | Do they plan to end S2 code by giving up Jetlite AOC, or will that continue? |
At this time there are no more Jet Airways flights using the S2 code. |
Now all the flights with S2 code are those of JetKonnect. |
Where do you see those S2 flights ? Jet Airways' flight schedule shows only 9W code. |
It still shows on FR24, but that's down purely to operational reasons, and the whole AOP saga.
For example, VT-SJI operating is flight S24324 from Ahmedabad to Mumbai, according to FR24.
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The flights are shown as S2 even on the airport display screens, as I saw recently.
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| The_Goat wrote: | | jbalonso777 wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | The_Goat wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | indopaki wrote: | | Do they plan to end S2 code by giving up Jetlite AOC, or will that continue? |
At this time there are no more Jet Airways flights using the S2 code. |
Now all the flights with S2 code are those of JetKonnect. |
Where do you see those S2 flights ? Jet Airways' flight schedule shows only 9W code. |
It still shows on FR24, but that's down purely to operational reasons, and the whole AOP saga.
For example, VT-SJI operating is flight S24324 from Ahmedabad to Mumbai, according to FR24.
Regards
Jish |
The flights are shown as S2 even on the airport display screens, as I saw recently. |
That's interesting. Even their online flight schedules only show as 9W. I can imagine the confusion at Indian airports, then.
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Any idea about VT-JLA and VT-JLB? JLA had last flown on 29 Dec while JLB hasn't flown in quite some time.
That leaves with just 2 737-700 in S2 fleet - VT-SIZ and VT-SJA doing very tight rotations.
B737 and A319 are the only jets that can land at RAJ - my home airport and hence worried. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:23 am Post subject: |
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And well advertised via email as well today .....
Now arrive in USA as a domestic passenger with Jet Airways.
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Found that mail odd when I read it as 9w's own flight to EWR won't have that facility. As if they are promoting EY now and encouraging pax to transit through AUH than go on their own flights.
Also, 9w seem to be adding a third daily frequency on BOM-COK as 9w407/408 dep. BOM at 9:00am . Not sure if it's permanent though. |
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| 747-237 wrote: | Jason, this referred to
From Thursday 15 January US preclearance will open for the early morning EY103 to New York JFK and EY183 to San Francisco flights, both of which conveniently connect with inbound services from Mumbai, Delhi and other cities in India and the Indian Subcontinent.
which are Jet Airways metal .... |
O I know. Besides the fact that preclearance had nothing to do with the ownership of the aircraft operating the flight, I'm just amused that Etihad topics are discussed in the Jet thread. It does make sense, but it's still amusing.
| 747-237 wrote: | | That's interesting. Even their online flight schedules only show as 9W. I can imagine the confusion at Indian airports, then. |
Their tickets too display S2.
The ticket they emailed my mother for her Baroda flight two days ago says she flew S2 7006. The text message went further and said Jet Konnect.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| jasepl wrote: | | O I know. Besides the fact that preclearance had nothing to do with the ownership of the aircraft operating the flight.... |
Any idea what it had to do with, then (since only EY103 & EY183 operated by 9W metal albeit with Emirati regn were the only two US bound flights not covered by US preclearance)?
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| jasepl wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | Jason, this referred to
From Thursday 15 January US preclearance will open for the early morning EY103 to New York JFK and EY183 to San Francisco flights, both of which conveniently connect with inbound services from Mumbai, Delhi and other cities in India and the Indian Subcontinent.
which are Jet Airways metal .... |
O I know. Besides the fact that preclearance had nothing to do with the ownership of the aircraft operating the flight, I'm just amused that Etihad topics are discussed in the Jet thread. It does make sense, but it's still amusing.
| 747-237 wrote: | | That's interesting. Even their online flight schedules only show as 9W. I can imagine the confusion at Indian airports, then. |
Their tickets too display S2.
The ticket they emailed my mother for her Baroda flight two days ago says she flew S2 7006. The text message went further and said Jet Konnect. |
My JP redemption ticket for RAJ-BOM & BOM-RAJ booked a week ago fro travel next week shows the 9W flight number - operated by JetKonnect. |
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| The_Goat wrote: | | jbalonso777 wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | The_Goat wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | indopaki wrote: | | Do they plan to end S2 code by giving up Jetlite AOC, or will that continue? |
At this time there are no more Jet Airways flights using the S2 code. |
Now all the flights with S2 code are those of JetKonnect. |
Where do you see those S2 flights ? Jet Airways' flight schedule shows only 9W code. |
It still shows on FR24, but that's down purely to operational reasons, and the whole AOP saga.
For example, VT-SJI operating is flight S24324 from Ahmedabad to Mumbai, according to FR24.
Regards
Jish |
The flights are shown as S2 even on the airport display screens, as I saw recently. |
Ameya's blogpost brilliantly explains how Jet is integrating S2 into 9W.
http://www.networkthoughts.in/wfsc.html
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