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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jet might make Amsterdam gateway to US & Canada

September 15, 2015

Jet Airways might make Amsterdam its gateway for flights to the US and Canada. At present, the airline flies daily from Mumbai and Delhi to Newark and Toronto via Brussels.

Jet is reported to have sought and secured slots at Amsterdam's Schiphol airport and is in talks with Air France-KLM and Delta Airlines for commercial partnerships and code shares on the European and North American routes. Securing a partnership with the two carriers will be a key factor influencing Jet's decision to launch flights to Amsterdam.

There is no direct flight between Mumbai and Amsterdam after Delta Airlines pulled out from the route earlier this year. KLM Royal Dutch Airlines is a part of the Air France-KLM group, formed after merger of the two companies in 2004. The two airlines operate separately and KLM flies daily between Amsterdam and Delhi.

“As an airline with international operations, we continue to evaluate viable opportunities globally. Jet has interline arrangements with over 100 global carriers, including KLM and Delta. We continuously engage with airline partners to explore opportunities to feed traffic to each other's networks,” said a Jet spokesperson.

Delta and Air France-KLM said they were looking at new opportunities on cooperation with airline partners.

Sources said Schiphol offered better connections and network opportunities than at Brussels. It is connected with 153 destinations within Europe. Jet has found it difficult to get onward passengers over Brussels because of the limited strength of its local airline partner, Brussels Airlines.

Even the Amsterdam airport wants to develop a second direct route between India and Netherlands. “We aim to have as many direct connections as possible with all economic, political and cultural centres in the world. We therefore regret to see Mumbai dropped from our network, as Mumbai is an important connection for The Netherlands. We do hope this important destination will be re-added to our network again soon,” a spokesperson for Schiphol Airport said.

Jet had plans to fly to New York and Chicago via Abu Dhabi but that is on hold. It is considering extending the leases of seven-wide body planes with Etihad Airways.

Sources say even as it explores Amsterdam option there is a possibility of Jet Airways connecting Newark via Abu Dhabi. At present, there is no direct flight between Abu Dhabi and Newark but there are multiple flight options between Newark and Amsterdam. Jet already has a code share agreement with KLM, with the Dutch airline placing its code on Jet's domestic routes. Etihad, which owns 24 per cent in Jet, also has code shares with Air France and KLM. Air France-KLM have a partnership with Delta on US routes.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Aahh, they would be an ideal candidate then for Skyteam. It would add more feed to their BOM-CDG as well, being already on tie up with AF. And if VS is part of that alliance in future, all of 9W's westbound long-haul from BOM would yield well.
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Aahh, they would be an ideal candidate then for Skyteam. It would add more feed to their BOM-CDG as well, being already on tie up with AF. And if VS is part of that alliance in future, all of 9W's westbound long-haul from BOM would yield well.


I don't see how BOM-AMS is going to add more feed to their BOM-CDG flight.

and if 9W couldn't make its BRU hub work with all its high yielding diplomatic traffic, AMS is going to be an even bigger flop show.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go again.

And on the auspicious occasion of yet another proposed hub change, Mrs. Goyal will launch new "crockery" on board Jet Airways flights.
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Here we go again.

And on the auspicious occasion of yet another proposed hub change, Mrs. Goyal will launch new "crockery" on board Jet Airways flights.


While Mr. Goyal will insist that there's no change in hub planned, and that he's not a feeder to AUH!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't see how BOM-AMS is going to add more feed to their BOM-CDG flight.

and if 9W couldn't make its BRU hub work with all its high yielding diplomatic traffic, AMS is going to be an even bigger flop show.


I meant if they joined Skyteam, then both CDG & AMS should work as both hubs are the base of major Skyteam members. They could easily connect/feed amongst themselves - AF/DL//KL/9W and even possibly VS @ LHR: India - N.A /Europe.
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The change to AMS only makes sense along with 9W joining DL/AF/KL transatlantic JV (which they offered them before). I think 9W should 100% do this. The US should be the #2 int market for Indian airlines after the gulf. For 9W to make any dent here (in premium business and even coach fares) they did DL to push them (meaning real code shares and FF earnings). This will only happen with the JV. And if they can somehow add VS to it, then 9W is really set with strong partnerships in the US, UK, Europe and the Gulf. Let's be hones EY selling some of the cheapest fares is not going to save 9W add to that low fuel prices and everyone is basically cheap. Tickets JFK-BOM can sometimes be just $300 more than JFK-LAX.
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The change to AMS only makes sense along with 9W joining DL/AF/KL transatlantic JV (which they offered them before). I think 9W should 100% do this. The US should be the #2 int market for Indian airlines after the gulf. For 9W to make any dent here (in premium business and even coach fares) they did DL to push them (meaning real code shares and FF earnings). This will only happen with the JV. And if they can somehow add VS to it, then 9W is really set with strong partnerships in the US, UK, Europe and the Gulf. Let's be hones EY selling some of the cheapest fares is not going to save 9W add to that low fuel prices and everyone is basically cheap. Tickets JFK-BOM can sometimes be just $300 more than JFK-LAX.


All this makes sense. But the elephant in the room is DL - is it willing to sleep with the enemy (9W is partly owned by EY)? I have my doubts the JV will ever include 9W as DL is happiest to focus on the transatlantic traffic, and probably India-US traffic is way low on it's priority list. AF/KL/ VS don't see to be in the driving seat as much as DL is (that's my perception).
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I actually think for DL its the have your cake and eat it to in the sense they get in bed with EY's money without having to let them into the JV/Skyteam. My guess is DL was happy EY saved Alitalia and kept them in Skyteam and in the transatlantic JV. So this is no difference. Also see Air Berlin and OneWorld. The main issue, in my opinion, for DL withEY specifically is that EY doesn't bring a home country important to DL. A strong 9W (using EY money) in India is exactly what DL wants and needs. Maybe even DL does a token $100m investment like they have in Gol or China whatever.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I actually think for DL its the have your cake and eat it to in the sense they get in bed with EY's money without having to let them into the JV/Skyteam. My guess is DL was happy EY saved Alitalia and kept them in Skyteam and in the transatlantic JV. So this is no difference. Also see Air Berlin and OneWorld. The main issue, in my opinion, for DL withEY specifically is that EY doesn't bring a home country important to DL. A strong 9W (using EY money) in India is exactly what DL wants and needs. Maybe even DL does a token $100m investment like they have in Gol or China whatever.


The only problem is that the crafty sheiks at EY will see though that game before 9W or DL can say 'Amsterdam', and that will end any Dutch wet dream that 9W may have.
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^^ Laughing Laughing Twisted Evil

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Jet-Airways-introduces-seat-select-facility/articleshow/49276085.cms
Jet Airways introduces 'seat select' facility

Oct 8, 2015

Jet Airways passengers can now reserve their preferred seats on domestic and select international flights well before their flight departure date.

The reservation can be done for a fee at the time of flight booking on the airline website, the Jet Airways mobile app or through a travel agent, said Jet in a release issued on Thursday. "In case the flight booking has already been made, passengers can also use the 'Manage Booking' facility on the airline website and mobile app to reserve their preferred seats,'' it added.

The Seat Select feature is applicable for window, aisle and middle seats from row 11 to 15 and for exit row 24 of the Economy cabin for booking anytime between 331 days and up to 48 hours prior to departure. This feature is available only on flights operated by Jet Airways' Boeing 737 aircraft.

Economy class passengers can reserve their seats for a charge of Rs 500 on domestic sectors and Rs 800 on international sectors, exclusive of taxes. The seat select facility is complimentary for Jet Privilege Platinum and Gold members. All passengers travelling in Premiere can pre-reserve their seats at no cost.

For seats reserved outside India, passengers will be charged an equivalent amount in their local currency.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jet Airways reintroducing Airbus A330 service on Delhi-Singapore effective 25th November.

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/PlanYourTravel/flight-update.aspx
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jet Airways reduces Trivandrum-Doha to 3pw and Mumbai-Doha (9W560/559) to 11pw.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jet Airways reintroducing Airbus A330 service on Delhi-Singapore effective 25th November.

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/PlanYourTravel/flight-update.aspx


Looks like its seasonal only - reverts back to 737 29th Jan onwards
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abhijith16 wrote:
Jet Airways reintroducing Airbus A330 service on Delhi-Singapore effective 25th November.

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/PlanYourTravel/flight-update.aspx


Looks like its seasonal only - reverts back to 737 29th Jan onwards


Weirdly they don't put an end date in the flight update section. Right below it, you can see they've clearly defined dates for the seasonal Goa-Abu Dhabi ops. Not the same for DEL-SIN A330
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Jet Airways to add 19 new flights, upgraded aircraft

October 15, 2015

Jet Airways Thursday said it will add 19 new flights, including a few red-eye services, and upgrade its aircraft to wide-body Airbus between Delhi and Mumbai to provide additional connectivity on this key route during winter season.

Also, as a part of the winter schedule which would come into effect from the last Saturday of this month, the full service carrier would also launch flight services on the Mumbai-Vishakhapatnam, Delhi-Visakhapatnam, Srinagar-Jammu and Chennai-Kolkata) routes, Jet Airways said in a statement.

The enhanced network would help the airline in meeting an increased demand on key sectors, it added.

"The new flights and additional frequencies in our 2015 winter schedule will further strengthen our robust domestic network, while offering our guests additional choice and flexibility to plan their travel. We are happy to introduce the A330-200 wide-body aircraft between Delhi and Mumbai to provide additional connectivity on this key route," Jet Airways senior vice president for commercial Gaurang Shetty said in the statement.

Jet Airways will upgrade its Delhi-Mumbai-Delhi services on flights 9W-362 and 9W-361 to an Airbus A330-200 from October 25, thereby making it the only domestic carrier to operate a wide-body aircraft on this high demand route, the airline said.

The Airbus A330-200 deployed for these flights would offer 18 seats in business class and 236 seats in economy and enable passengers to experience the cabin comfort with a flat-bed in business and ergonomically designed seats in Economy, Jet Airways said.

The airline, which was the first domestic carrier to roll out red-eye flights, has increased the number of such services 11 per day, Jet Airways said, adding, "a new flight between Chennai and Kolkata and adding a frequency between Chennai and Mumbai will also be launched during this period."

Red-eye flights are the one that departs late night and land early morning and generally priced below the average fares.

These flights on key domestic routes cater to the evolving demand for flight connections during non-peak hours, the statement said.

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Jet Airways will upgrade its Delhi-Mumbai-Delhi services on flights 9W-362 and 9W-361 to an Airbus A330-200 from October 25, thereby making it the ONLY domestic carrier to operate a wide-body aircraft on this high demand route, the airline said.

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747-237 wrote:
Jet Airways will upgrade its Delhi-Mumbai-Delhi services on flights 9W-362 and 9W-361 to an Airbus A330-200 from October 25, thereby making it the ONLY domestic carrier to operate a wide-body aircraft on this high demand route, the airline said.

LOL.


Perhaps they would better describe themselves as "the only private airline to operate a wide-body aircrafy on this high-demand route" Smile

As it stands, it is a particularly egregious lie, because AI operates two different types of wide-body aircraft on that route.
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abhijith16 wrote:
Jet Airways reintroducing Airbus A330 service on Delhi-Singapore effective 25th November.

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/PlanYourTravel/flight-update.aspx


Looks like its seasonal only - reverts back to 737 29th Jan onwards


Correct, except that is seasonal too, 737 operates once again between 29th Jan to 15th May, then returns to A330 once again, so it's about as permanent. Very Happy
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http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/jet-might-make-amsterdam-gateway-to-us-canada-115091400842_1.html

Jet might make Amsterdam gateway to US & Canada

September 15, 2015

Jet Airways might make Amsterdam its gateway for flights to the US and Canada. At present, the airline flies daily from Mumbai and Delhi to Newark and Toronto via Brussels.

Jet is reported to have sought and secured slots at Amsterdam's Schiphol airport and is in talks with Air France-KLM and Delta Airlines for commercial partnerships and code shares on the European and North American routes. Securing a partnership with the two carriers will be a key factor influencing Jet's decision to launch flights to Amsterdam.

There is no direct flight between Mumbai and Amsterdam after Delta Airlines pulled out from the route earlier this year. KLM Royal Dutch Airlines is a part of the Air France-KLM group, formed after merger of the two companies in 2004. The two airlines operate separately and KLM flies daily between Amsterdam and Delhi.

“As an airline with international operations, we continue to evaluate viable opportunities globally. Jet has interline arrangements with over 100 global carriers, including KLM and Delta. We continuously engage with airline partners to explore opportunities to feed traffic to each other's networks,” said a Jet spokesperson.

Delta and Air France-KLM said they were looking at new opportunities on cooperation with airline partners.

Sources said Schiphol offered better connections and network opportunities than at Brussels. It is connected with 153 destinations within Europe. Jet has found it difficult to get onward passengers over Brussels because of the limited strength of its local airline partner, Brussels Airlines.

Even the Amsterdam airport wants to develop a second direct route between India and Netherlands. “We aim to have as many direct connections as possible with all economic, political and cultural centres in the world. We therefore regret to see Mumbai dropped from our network, as Mumbai is an important connection for The Netherlands. We do hope this important destination will be re-added to our network again soon,” a spokesperson for Schiphol Airport said.

Jet had plans to fly to New York and Chicago via Abu Dhabi but that is on hold. It is considering extending the leases of seven-wide body planes with Etihad Airways.

Sources say even as it explores Amsterdam option there is a possibility of Jet Airways connecting Newark via Abu Dhabi. At present, there is no direct flight between Abu Dhabi and Newark but there are multiple flight options between Newark and Amsterdam. Jet already has a code share agreement with KLM, with the Dutch airline placing its code on Jet's domestic routes. Etihad, which owns 24 per cent in Jet, also has code shares with Air France and KLM. Air France-KLM have a partnership with Delta on US routes.


Any update on this? I really hope EY allows Jet to enter a JV with Delta/KL/AF and move the BRU flights to AMS. Jet needs to at least connect a few EU cities to India (LHR is a given) but AMS is a great hub for inter EU hubbing (and EY will never cover the EU well enough for all the city pairs business travelers want - especially out of BOM, DEL, BLR). Add CDG (plus the evening departure 9W already has from CDG) and you get some good options from BOM at least. Don't know if KL would ever consider flying the evening flight from AMS-DEL leaving morning to 9W (in a JV it shouldn't matter but yo u never know). This way Sky team would offer both day and night flights to/from BOM & DEL plus 9W would get feed for onward flights to EWR & YYZ.
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Any update on this? I really hope EY allows Jet to enter a JV with Delta/KL/AF and move the BRU flights to AMS. Jet needs to at least connect a few EU cities to India (LHR is a given) but AMS is a great hub for inter EU hubbing (and EY will never cover the EU well enough for all the city pairs business travelers want - especially out of BOM, DEL, BLR). Add CDG (plus the evening departure 9W already has from CDG) and you get some good options from BOM at least. Don't know if KL would ever consider flying the evening flight from AMS-DEL leaving morning to 9W (in a JV it shouldn't matter but yo u never know). This way Sky team would offer both day and night flights to/from BOM & DEL plus 9W would get feed for onward flights to EWR & YYZ.


If 9W starts DEL-AMS, KL will withdraw from the sector. There is going to be only one flight between the two places, not two.
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http://www.livemint.com/Companies/JXM5VCMQNvC8K8KYk1qfaL/Jet-Airways-reviews-operations-in-its-Brussels-hub.html

Jet Airways reviews operations in its Brussels hub

Nov 07 2015

Jet Airways (India) Ltd, the country’s second largest airline by passengers carried, is weighing options on maintaining or closing down its only international hub in Brussels, citing economic feasibility in the wake of intense competition and changing dynamics in aviation.

The Naresh Goyal-promoted airline, in which Abu Dhabi’s Etihad Airways PJSC has a 24% stake, has started a consultative process with employee representatives on the future of the international hub, according to two people close to the development who declined to be named.

Jet Airways started using the Belgian capital as a hub in September 2007, when it began flying to Europe, making it the first Indian airline to have full-scale operations outside the country besides state-owned Air India Ltd.

Jet Airways has two hubs in India -- Mumbai and Delhi -- while its equity partner Etihad Airways operates through its hub in Abu Dhabi. At present, Jet Airways is flying via Abu Dhabi hub in partnership with Etihad Airways.

“There is no concrete decision on Brussels hub. It is not that Jet Airways is going to close down the hub. But the airline has started review process on the hub. It may or may not continue with the existing hub system,” one of two people said.

At its peak, Jet Airways has operated flights to Brussels from Bengaluru, Mumbai, Delhi and Chennai. The airline has operated flights to Newark, New York and Toronto from Brussels.

However, Jet Airways discontinued Bengaluru - Brussels flights in January 2009 and New York - Brussels in September 2012. Chennai - Brussels flights were discontinued in November 2012.

This was largely owing to the economic slowdown in Europe and Jet Airways’ alliance with Etihad Airways enabling re-routing of flights via Abu Dhabi.

Jet Airways operates daily flights between Brussels and New Delhi and Mumbai in India and Newark and Toronto in North America.

A Jet Airways spokesperson said no specific decision with regard to the Brussels operation has been taken at this time.



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Was visiting Brazil for a week, and saw Jet Airways aircraft used as Etihad flight to Abu Dhabi at GRU airport (Sao Paulo). Was departing on United, the Abu Dhabi flight was next gate and even some of the crew looked like Jet crew.

Did not know that Etihad has wet leased the plane from Jet.

On a side note, had the opportunity to fly on GOL and TAM within Brazil, both were efficient, but expensive when compared to domestic Indian carriers for similar distances.
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Was visiting Brazil for a week, and saw Jet Airways aircraft used as Etihad flight to Abu Dhabi at GRU airport (Sao Paulo). Was departing on United, the Abu Dhabi flight was next gate and even some of the crew looked like Jet crew.

Did not know that Etihad has wet leased the plane from Jet.

On a side note, had the opportunity to fly on GOL and TAM within Brazil, both were efficient, but expensive when compared to domestic Indian carriers for similar distances.


When u say "looked like" - were they in 9W uniform or Indians in EY uniform?
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Jet Airways today formally announced an order for 75 Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes (50 purchase rights + 25 737NG order conversion) at DAS 2015.
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http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2015-11-09-Boeing-Jet-Airways-Confirm-Order-for-75-737-MAX-8-airplanes

Boeing, Jet Airways Confirm Order for 75 737 MAX 8 airplanes

Nov. 9, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing and Jet Airways, India's premier international airline, announced an order for 75 737 MAX 8 airplanes at the 2015 Dubai Airshow today.

The announcement marks the largest order in Jet Airways' history and supports the airline's replacement strategy to have the most modern and environmentally progressive airplane fleet. The order, previously attributed to an unidentified customer, includes conversions of 25 Next-Generation 737s to 737 MAX 8s, as well as options and purchase rights for an additional 50 aircraft.

"Incorporating the latest design and technology features, the highly efficient 737 MAX will allow us to drive our operational efficiency and reaffirms our commitment to providing a best-in-class full service travel experience to our guests," said Naresh Goyal, chairman of Jet Airways. "This order is an endorsement of our confidence in the long-term prospects of the Indian aviation sector, which reflects the positive forecast for the country's economy and offers tremendous potential for growth and development."

"Boeing is proud that Jet Airways will be the first airline in India to take delivery of the 737 MAX," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes President and CEO Ray Conner. "The 737 MAX will bring new standards for fuel efficiency and economics, and a premium passenger experience to Jet Airways."

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That's a solid haul by 9W. I was wondering where the 738 replacements were coming from considering they didn't have anything bar the 787-9 on order.

Some frames are especially getting on. VT-JNL was delivered back in 1999!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Jet Airways at GRU Reply with quote

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When u say "looked like" - were they in 9W uniform or Indians in EY uniform?


Indians in EY uniform.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Jet Airways at GRU Reply with quote

iah87 wrote:
justbala wrote:

When u say "looked like" - were they in 9W uniform or Indians in EY uniform?


Indians in EY uniform.


Tht wud be EY crew.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some frames are especially getting on. VT-JNL was delivered back in 1999!


JNL has been returned a while ago. The only non winglet 737s with 9W are JNN & JGA.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some frames are especially getting on. VT-JNL was delivered back in 1999!


JNL has been returned a while ago. The only non winglet 737s with 9W are JNN & JGA.


Negative/Are you sure?

It's been flying fairly regularly as on FR24, though is an a/c that can't be completely tracked, bit like IC's double bogeys: http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/vt-jnl
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spiderguy252 wrote:
saurabhm_101 wrote:
Spiderguy252 wrote:

Some frames are especially getting on. VT-JNL was delivered back in 1999!


JNL has been returned a while ago. The only non winglet 737s with 9W are JNN & JGA.


Negative/Are you sure?

It's been flying fairly regularly as on FR24, though is an a/c that can't be completely tracked, bit like IC's double bogeys: http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/vt-jnl


Haha, if it were the other way round, he'd have flown it several times already!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this interesting link:

http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/251830/jet-airways-departure-could-open-door-for-new-opportunities-for-brussels-airport-/

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Analysis of Sabre demand data shows that over five million passengers have flown with Jet Airways on its flights via Brussels Airport with over 775,000 bi-directional passengers flying to, from or via the Belgian hub last year, its largest annual total since its flights commenced in the middle of the previous decade. An annual analysis of the demand for the four current destinations Jet Airways links to Brussels highlights the important role the hub offering provides in supporting demand between the Indian and North American markets.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jbalonso777 wrote:
Found this interesting link:

http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/251830/jet-airways-departure-could-open-door-for-new-opportunities-for-brussels-airport-/

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Analysis of Sabre demand data shows that over five million passengers have flown with Jet Airways on its flights via Brussels Airport with over 775,000 bi-directional passengers flying to, from or via the Belgian hub last year, its largest annual total since its flights commenced in the middle of the previous decade. An annual analysis of the demand for the four current destinations Jet Airways links to Brussels highlights the important role the hub offering provides in supporting demand between the Indian and North American markets.


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In regards to that -

In a Belgian Newspaper article, Jet recently informed all it's BRU-based employees that BRU will be shutting down effective S16.

Another article also states that Jet has acquired 3 slots at AMS for S16, implying Jet is moving the BRU hub to AMS.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could this move to close BRU and operate from AMS be a precursor to more cooperation with KL/AF/DL or even joining Skyteam. But the way Skyteam operates, which is the weakest of the three alliances, it may not mean much to Jet.

Somehow I thought being in BRU had its advantages, you have the markets with less competition compared to AMS.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what's going on? On Airliners.net people are saying Jet is closing BRU and giving up all routes to the US/Canada. Is this the case? I really hope Jet moves to AMS and enters a JV with DL/KLM/AF. If Jet only serves CDG and LHR in Europe, its really a joke. I get EY wants AUH, but India is too big of a market to assume everyone will just fly through AUH or the ME.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iah87 wrote:
Could this move to close BRU and operate from AMS be a precursor to more cooperation with KL/AF/DL or even joining Skyteam. But the way Skyteam operates, which is the weakest of the three alliances, it may not mean much to Jet.

Somehow I thought being in BRU had its advantages, you have the markets with less competition compared to AMS.


However, KL & DL has the most to offer in AMS w.r.t EU + Americas than SN ever did. It'll be a win-win for 9W, who can bolster presence in these markets without losing more pennies, while for KL-DL, it'll bolster their India presence.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caliguy wrote:
So what's going on? On Airliners.net people are saying Jet is closing BRU and giving up all routes to the US/Canada. Is this the case? I really hope Jet moves to AMS and enters a JV with DL/KLM/AF. If Jet only serves CDG and LHR in Europe, its really a joke. I get EY wants AUH, but India is too big of a market to assume everyone will just fly through AUH or the ME.


What is the difference between flying via AUH v/s flying via BRU/AMS? Either way its not a non stop flight frm India for 9W.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justbala wrote:
Caliguy wrote:
So what's going on? On Airliners.net people are saying Jet is closing BRU and giving up all routes to the US/Canada. Is this the case? I really hope Jet moves to AMS and enters a JV with DL/KLM/AF. If Jet only serves CDG and LHR in Europe, its really a joke. I get EY wants AUH, but India is too big of a market to assume everyone will just fly through AUH or the ME.


What is the difference between flying via AUH v/s flying via BRU/AMS? Either way its not a non stop flight frm India for 9W.


I think 9W is much better served partnering with AF and DL in a JV. 9W needs premium clients and the US origin premium traffic is not flocking to the ME3. Also any hope that 9W has of flying nonstop us-india is with a us partner
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