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Jet Airways News -- Part 15
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deaphen
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VT-JXB, 9W's second 737-8MAX is enroute India.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw it parked closer to runway 27 in BOM this morning. Looks great in 9W livery with the split scimitar winglets.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the status of 9W and EY now? They have stopped announcing the EY partner welcome. The EY partner logo has vanished from the boarding passes.

Do 9W plat/gold members still earn privileges and benefits while flying EY like before?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justbala wrote:
What is the status of 9W and EY now? They have stopped announcing the EY partner welcome. The EY partner logo has vanished from the boarding passes.

Do 9W plat/gold members still earn privileges and benefits while flying EY like before?


The 9W/EY relationship is totally weird for an investment relationship. I've always wondered what the real deal is between them. For instance if EY really did invest in them (for an equity stake), why not lease on the cheap planes to 9W so that they can serve more routes. If 9W is super strong, EY would have benefitted as the second frequency being one stop via AUH. Just like DL/AF/KL do. You might fly nonstop JFK-MAD but return MAD-CDG-JFK so you can leave MAD in the afternoon instead of am. What ever, 9W should just sell their soul to DL/AF/KL/VS. At least DL knows how to run an airline and grow most investments.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the feeling that something stops 9W from achieving its full potential. Got to be the people who run it. All said and done, AI has better route map that 9W, with all the latter's hype.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caliguy wrote:
justbala wrote:
What is the status of 9W and EY now? They have stopped announcing the EY partner welcome. The EY partner logo has vanished from the boarding passes.

Do 9W plat/gold members still earn privileges and benefits while flying EY like before?


The 9W/EY relationship is totally weird for an investment relationship. I've always wondered what the real deal is between them. For instance if EY really did invest in them (for an equity stake), why not lease on the cheap planes to 9W so that they can serve more routes. If 9W is super strong, EY would have benefitted as the second frequency being one stop via AUH. Just like DL/AF/KL do. You might fly nonstop JFK-MAD but return MAD-CDG-JFK so you can leave MAD in the afternoon instead of am. What ever, 9W should just sell their soul to DL/AF/KL/VS. At least DL knows how to run an airline and grow most investments.


To be fair I have done that with 9W/EY - flew BLR-MAA-CDG on 9W and CDG-AUH-BLR on EY.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justbala wrote:
Caliguy wrote:
justbala wrote:
What is the status of 9W and EY now? They have stopped announcing the EY partner welcome. The EY partner logo has vanished from the boarding passes.

Do 9W plat/gold members still earn privileges and benefits while flying EY like before?


The 9W/EY relationship is totally weird for an investment relationship. I've always wondered what the real deal is between them. For instance if EY really did invest in them (for an equity stake), why not lease on the cheap planes to 9W so that they can serve more routes. If 9W is super strong, EY would have benefitted as the second frequency being one stop via AUH. Just like DL/AF/KL do. You might fly nonstop JFK-MAD but return MAD-CDG-JFK so you can leave MAD in the afternoon instead of am. What ever, 9W should just sell their soul to DL/AF/KL/VS. At least DL knows how to run an airline and grow most investments.


To be fair I have done that with 9W/EY - flew BLR-MAA-CDG on 9W and CDG-AUH-BLR on EY.


Agreed. They just had so much more potential to expand that offering. Instead EY tried to limit 9Ws network west (if these forums are to be believed). Also EY keeps planes on the ground in AUH. 9W would be a perfect place for some cheap leases. What I like about the 9W/DL partnership is that DL/VS/AF/KL are happy to have 9W fly routes from India to EU (encourage 9W to expand) and, I think, will have them flying to the US once a JV is in place.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With EU flights from MAA and BLR, it would have been good for 9W to operate connector flights from other parts of the south (COK, TRV, CCJ, IXM, CJB, TRZ) to either MAA or BLR. This year checking fares from BOS to TRV, did see a lot of good fares on EU carriers + 9W/AI, which usually doesnt happen. The long transit times at BOM or DEL is the other part of this puzzle that has to be solved.
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