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iflytb20 Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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JETFLY787 wrote: |
OOOHHHH LALA ...NIIIICCCEEEE!!! love AIX tails ..Infact it has been quite a while since we have seen some new designs. The registrations are also different and not in continuation of the old cycle if i am not wrong |
Well we were using the AX_ format till now for the regs. But certain regs are missing as they were already taken by other aircraft. Hence the need to start using the AY_ series. With AYB due soon, only remaining ones are AYC and AYD |
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747-237 Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11366 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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There are now 2 x 777s (1 x 77L and 1 x 77W) in AI colors at KPAE
http://paineairport.com/images/kpae5387.jpg
AI's latest 77W, VT-ALP is close to delivery
Check out the pics in the Photography section
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justbala Member
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 1898 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Is that a 787 in NH colors at the extreme left?!
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vivekman Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1897 Location: BOM
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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justbala wrote: | Is that a 787 in NH colors at the extreme left?! |
Yep, that is correct. However, this aircraft is not actually going to NH.
- Vivek _________________ Boeing makes planes. Airbus makes videogames! |
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G-BYGB Member
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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vivekman wrote: | justbala wrote: | Is that a 787 in NH colors at the extreme left?! |
Yep, that is correct. However, this aircraft is not actually going to NH.
- Vivek |
Does this mean we are going to see B787 in the skies soon? _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos |
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avbuff Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:00 am Post subject: |
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AI code will replace the IC code on MAA - SIN routes from September
IC 555/556 --> AI 446/447
IC 557/558 --> AI 448/449
So the whole code sharing business will go and I just hope someone here tells AI to place AI and AIX flights separately and not together. |
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Boeing7xx Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 477 Location: WSSS
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Two 74's are tech.... schedules are getting messed up and the lone 330 is going off the japan route... expect more 777's to take over. |
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747-237 Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11366 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Boeing7xx wrote: | Two 74's are tech.... schedules are getting messed up and the lone 330 is going off the japan route... expect more 777's to take over. |
Was one A330 returned ? |
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Karan69 Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Boeing7xx wrote: | Two 74's are tech.... schedules are getting messed up and the lone 330 is going off the japan route... expect more 777's to take over. |
Where is it gonna be deployed --- JED/RUH,
and despite the 2 744s going tech the remaining 4 should be more than enough for the schedule they are currently used on
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Spiderguy252 Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4259 Location: Indian Ocean
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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The T7s should be more than sufficient to cover these routes. _________________ Yeah. |
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avbuff Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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AI should stick to their plan of returning all the leased aircrafts.
Which directly implies it is better if they operate RUH/JED with the B744 it would be better and maybe in the future we may see B77Ws doing them, who knows? |
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Jaysit Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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744 service as of Sep 1, 2009 will be restricted to Saudi routes only. The BOM-FRA-EWR flight will be operated with the 77W as of that date. So 4 744s will be more than adequate to do the Saudi runs. |
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Boeing7xx Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 477 Location: WSSS
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Holy Cow, and i hate to say this, but you guys are more informed than our roster..... |
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avbuff Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Boeing7xx wrote: | Holy Cow, and i hate to say this, but you guys are more informed than our roster..... |
LOL don't worry its on their website for over a month as of now. |
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xterra Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 595 Location: DONT KNO
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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can anyone update the status of the ex UA 777s and the 2x A330s? _________________ ~~~Indian Aviation Photographers~~~ |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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xterra wrote: | can anyone update the status of the ex UA 777s and the 2x A330s? |
The ex UA 777s (1 x 772A; 3 x 772ER) are still in the fleet.
I thought the 2 x A330s were also in the fleet, but it appears (above) that there is only one (not very clear, though). |
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avbuff Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Ok I think gradually there is a code transfer going on from IC to AI
MAA - SIN will soon have the following change:
IC 555/556 --> AI 446/447
IC 557/558 --> AI 448/449
* HYD-AMD-KWI
IC 981/982 --> AI 851/850
* CCJ-BOM-KWI
IC 993/994 --> AI 853/852
* MAA-GOI-KWI
IC 575/576 --> AI 855/854
So IC lfights ex SIN and ex KWI have been now fully converted to AI flights.
AS and when it is updated I shall post it. |
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777-237LR Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 140
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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AI Boss speaks his mind. Arvind Jadhav's stern views on Air Indians, and what plans he has for AI, in Businessworld dated 17th Aug 09 |
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Spiderguy252 Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4259 Location: Indian Ocean
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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avbuff wrote: | Ok I think gradually there is a code transfer going on from IC to AI
MAA - SIN will soon have the following change:
IC 555/556 --> AI 446/447
IC 557/558 --> AI 448/449
* HYD-AMD-KWI
IC 981/982 --> AI 851/850
* CCJ-BOM-KWI
IC 993/994 --> AI 853/852
* MAA-GOI-KWI
IC 575/576 --> AI 855/854
So IC lfights ex SIN and ex KWI have been now fully converted to AI flights.
AS and when it is updated I shall post it. |
The sooner this happens across the board, the better. _________________ Yeah. |
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sri_bom Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Air India announced plans to overhaul the interiors of 43 A320 family aircraft formerly operated by Indian Airlines to match the interiors of the rest of the carrier’s fleet (Hindu Business Line, 11-Aug-2009).
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sumantra Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:03 am Post subject: |
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sri_bom wrote: | Air India announced plans to overhaul the interiors of 43 A320 family aircraft formerly operated by Indian Airlines to match the interiors of the rest of the carrier’s fleet (Hindu Business Line, 11-Aug-2009).
Sri_Bom |
This is interesting - but many of the old 320s have had the new orange-and-yellow seat colour scheme for quite some time. Does this mean that PTVs and the new lighting and overhead panels will be installed in the 320s? If so...wow!
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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sammyk Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Somehow they have money for this? |
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himmat01 Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:36 am Post subject: |
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The old A320s were to be transferred to AIX. Why do they require PTVs for a low cost carrier? In any case, these A320s are 20 years old and will be phased out in a couple of years. |
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xterra Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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So if 320s get transfered to AIX... then they get AIX c/s.. which is awsome.. 320s would look great.
I would like the double bogey 320s to get transferred so that we got ane xotic bogey configured 320 with an exotic livery.. _________________ ~~~Indian Aviation Photographers~~~ |
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jasepl Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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It all this code-changing still going to be little more than lipsitck on the same nasty old pig? Or it it going to be an actual Air India flight, using AI's airport terminals, check-in desks, cutlery, crew, etc? |
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iflytb20 Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Oops...sorry Double post.
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iflytb20 Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: |
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http://www.businessworld.in/index.php/Interviews/The-Time-For.html
Quote: | Running an airline steeped in losses, neck deep in debt, under the intense scrutiny of the media and dreaded by customers is an unenviable job. But those are not the only problems Air India’s new chairman and managing director, Arvind Jadhav, 53, has to contend with. He also has to deal with recalcitrant unions, employees who are not too happy with him, and an excess of bureaucratic red tape. Three months after he took charge (4 May 2009), though, Jadhav is not letting any of those scare him. He has what he thinks is a clear game plan for turning around an airline Rhat has firmly refused to turn around in the past.
Jadhav says the day he took over he found a balance sheet in tatters, a declining market share, poor loads, poor on-time performance, business-class seats occupied only by the airline’s own staff and their families, aircraft flying to routes that do not make money and not flying to routes where everyone else seems to be making money. In other words, a “typical” public-sector organisation that was spiralling down towards a debt trap. Its net worth is slowly, but surely, getting eroded. To add to this, he found an “organisation where people felt nothing has gone wrong” and “that they were doing their best”. Post-merger, there are two people for every activity of Air India, no single chain of command and a hugely excess pampered staff.
Jadhav has put forward a proposal to the Centre seeking a hike in equity to Rs 10,000 crore in a phased manner and says that the airline needs a loan of around Rs 10,000 crore (government guaranteed or zero-coupon interest) to tide over the present crisis. What he is likely to get will be clear after the committee of secretaries meeting on 25 August. The finance ministry is also being asked to intervene and discuss a deferment of loan repayment for two years with the US EXIM bank.
If the government allows Jadhav a free hand and lets him do what he thinks needs to be done, the next few months in Air India could be worth watching. Excerpts from his first interview to the media since he took charge, with BW’s Anjuli Bhargava: |
Interesting read. |
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justbala Member
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maut3000 Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know/have an idea that the Air India LCC proposal is down in the dumps??? |
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garytare Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:15 pm Post subject: Air India’s volte-face on productivity-linked incentive |
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Mumbai/New Delhi, Aug. 21 In a complete volte-face in less than 24-hours Air India on Friday clarified that it “was in dialogue with various unions/associations/guild on Productivity Linked Incentive (PLI) reduction.”
Late on Thursday, the airline had issued a statement saying that the Air India board had decided to reduce PLI to employees / flying allowance paid to crew by 50 per cent.
The statement also quoted the Chairman and Managing Director, Mr Arvind Jadhav, as thanking the unions / employees for their foresight in “accepting the board’s decision”.
The statement added that the reduction will be there till an alternate formula for governing PLI is put in place within three months.
Mr Jadhav said, “The rationalisation of manpower costs will help in hastening the turnaround process, which has been initiated with the support of the Government.”
However, in Friday’s statement, the spokesperson of Air India said, “Mr Arvind Jadhav met representatives of various unions late last night with union leaders agreeing to revert by early next week after discussing the issue with the office bearers and committee members.”
No decision, say unions
Earlier in the day, the union and association leaders that Business Line spoke to denied that they have agreed to any cut in the PLI. “We continue to support the turnaround plan of the airline, however, these (PLI/flying allowance) are bilateral settlements and no decision has been taken on the same. AICCA (All India Cabin Crew Association) has called an emergency general body meeting to discuss the matter with its membership and is open to dialogue,” Mr Sanjay Lazar, General Secretary, AICCA, told Business Line.
Source The Hindu Business Line |
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garytare Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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garytare Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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I can see 3 AI 77W in the picture oneon the left and other 2 on the right any idea when these airplanes will be dilivered as thers was a rumour of cancellation of last 6 77W |
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jasepl Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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So its nearly September and I was wondering if anyone knew about:
1. San Francisco: Will this flight actually happen anytime soon?
2. Toronto: Any update on earlier announcements that this flight will go through AI's "hub" at Frankfurt instead of Heathrow from the winter timetable? |
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sammyk Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: |
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garytare wrote: | I can see 3 AI 77W in the picture oneon the left and other 2 on the right any idea when these airplanes will be dilivered as thers was a rumour of cancellation of last 6 77W |
I believe one of those is a 77L based on a photo from the 19th. |
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avbuff Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: |
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AI will now code share on SQ's day flights between BOM and SIN. As of now barring BOM - SIN and MAA - SIN AI has its code on all SQ flights out India to SIN including Silk Air flights.
The only SQ flights to India that do not carry AI code are SQ 424/423 (SIN-BOM-SIN) and SQ 528/529 (SIN- MAA-SIN).
SQ 422/421 will carry AI's code and thus will be able to offer connections between SIN and DXB/JED/KWI/MCT via BOM. |
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ryder1650 Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:32 am Post subject: |
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So we are well into Sept and AI has not formally announced new LR service with the new planes it has received. Have they decided against it and will use the new planes on existing routes while retiring the old planes? |
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maut3000 Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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One thing I know for certain is that SFO is not happening |
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Nimish Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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maut3000 wrote: | One thing I know for certain is that SFO is not happening |
That sucks big time - but good for LH, BA, EK, SQ etc... _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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jasepl Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Nimish wrote: | but good for LH, BA, EK, SQ etc... |
Good for AI too! In all likelihood the route would have been a disaster anyway. |
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avbuff Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: |
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http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/rat-delays-air-india-amritsar-london-flight_100252507.html
Amritsar, Sep 26 (IANS) A rat delayed a London-bound Air India flight from the Rajasansi airport here Saturday morning.
Flight AI-187, which was scheduled to depart at 6.30 a.m. Saturday, had not left the airport even three hours later. There were 238 passengers on the flight.
“A rat entered the aircraft and the staff was searching for it. The flight has been delayed. Air India is getting a new aircraft to take the passengers to London,” airport director Chinson Panakal told IANS.
Airport officials said some passengers noticed the rat in the plane and informed the staff. The passengers were taken off the plane and were waiting at the airport for Air India to make alternate arrangements.
Some of the passengers said they were being unnecessarily harassed due to negligence of the airline staff.
Passengers, especially those with children and old people, said they were being made to suffer due to inadequate arrangements.
The nearly 10-hour flight is likely to get delayed by 7-8 hours, an Air India official said.
“We are trying to make arrangements to take the passengers to London. The flight can now leave by 2 p.m. only after a new aircraft arrives,” Air India manager Ashwini Kumar Arora told IANS.
“It is not only the question of finding the rat. The aircraft (in which the rat was seen) will have to undergo all security checks under the DGCA (Directorate General of Civil Aviation) guidelines. That will take a long time,” Arora added.
Read more: http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/rat-delays-air-india-amritsar-london-flight_100252507.html#ixzz0SBaxNhJL
Just to clarify this is the leased B777 and not a new one. |
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