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Spiderguy252
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| PAL@YWG wrote: | | The scissors operation has been under severe criticism by AI pilots, who say the company is being pennywise and pound foolish and not using its fleet adequately. For instance, at Frankfurt, a passenger flying from Delhi to Newark is transferred to the Mumbai-Newark flight and a person traveling to Chicago from Mumbai changes planes to get on the Delhi-Chicago airplane. |
Well, isn't 9W doing the same thing, but at BRU? This is not AI/9W's fault, but the GoI for providing pathetic transit and transfer facilities at Indian airports.
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| Spiderguy252 wrote: | | PAL@YWG wrote: | | The scissors operation has been under severe criticism by AI pilots, who say the company is being pennywise and pound foolish and not using its fleet adequately. For instance, at Frankfurt, a passenger flying from Delhi to Newark is transferred to the Mumbai-Newark flight and a person traveling to Chicago from Mumbai changes planes to get on the Delhi-Chicago airplane. |
Well, isn't 9W doing the same thing, but at BRU? This is not AI/9W's fault, but the GoI for providing pathetic transit and transfer facilities at Indian airports. |
9W does not have much competition of any form between India - BRU and BRU - USA as compared to FRA == > Lufthansa. Plus the cost of operation at BRU is much lesser than that at FRA. Now I personally don't like the Scissors hub concept for 9W either, but their strategy was a relatively well panned one than that of AI.
But yes at the end of the day, GOI is to be blamed for the pathetic infrastructure. |
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Jaysit
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| PAL@YWG wrote: | | The scissors operation has been under severe criticism by AI pilots, who say the company is being pennywise and pound foolish and not using its fleet adequately. For instance, at Frankfurt, a passenger flying from Delhi to Newark is transferred to the Mumbai-Newark flight and a person traveling to Chicago from Mumbai changes planes to get on the Delhi-Chicago airplane.[/i] |
Hello?
This is what a hub (or scissor ops as AI calls it) is supposed to do.
As usual, the Indian press is clueless about aviation. |
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iah87
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| What surprises me is that the article regarding the scissors hub was published in Aviation week where the reporters should have more knowledge than a reporter from Times of India. |
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con spirito
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Air India International told to pay Rs 4.16 lakh compensation
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/Air-India-International-told-to-pay-Rs-416-lakh-compensation/articleshow/5519545.cms
| Quote: | NEW DELHI: The National Consumer Disputes Redressal Commission (NCDRC) has asked Air India International to pay compensation of Rs 4.16 lakh to a
cotton fabric manufacturer after some bales in a consignment were stolen and others damaged due to exposure to rain.
The complainant, Soimex International (P) Limited, had entered an agreement in 1996 with a Middle-East company, Al Khwaja, for delivering a consignment comprising 43 bales of fabric.
But the complainant suffered losses after most of the cotton bales were damaged at Mumbai airport after the carrier chose to break the journey from Delhi to Dubai in the process of completing the assignment.
"If the carrier had chosen to break the journey after airlifting the consignment..., any loss caused to it at Bombay airport will have to be borne by Air India International," the Commission, comprising Members Justice K S Gupta and Rajyalakshmi Rao, said.
The manufacturer approached the Commission, seeking Rs 38.50 lakh compensation for the loss of business and reputation by the carrier's deficiency in service.
The carrier alleged that the Airports Authority of India, Mumbai was liable for the damage to the consignment as the bales were lying under its custody.
The Commission cited the condition which attributed responsibility on the carrier to deliver the complete consignment to the destination.
The carrier alleged that the Airports Authority of India, Mumbai was liable for the damage to the consignment as the bales were lying under its custody.
The Commission cited the condition which attributed responsibility on the carrier to deliver the complete consignment to the destination.
"Unloading of 17 bales at Dubai by no stretch of imagination can be taken of the entire consignment...," it said. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:26 am Post subject: |
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this person should have had the brains to send his shipment off by Emirates instead so that he could have gotten peace of mind.
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Air India plane grounded at Tiruchi after bird hit
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/cities/Chennai/article105161.ece
| Quote: | An Air India Express Boeing 737-800 aircraft was grounded at the Tiruchi Airport on Thursday after suffering a bird hit.
The Chennai-Tiruchi-Dubai flight (IX 611), with 116 passengers and six crew members on board, was hit by the bird while the aircraft was taxiing down the runway for take off this afternoon. The engine blades of the aircraft were damaged in the bird hit. However, the aircraft was brought to a safe halt, sources said.
Airline sources said a relief aircraft has been called to ferry the stranded passengers later tonight.
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TRZ has a special affinity for birds. Almost one bird hit every week. I remember a 9W ATR having a bird hit on approach and again on departure.
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Vadodara mayor demands restart of Air India flights
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_vadodara-mayor-demands-restart-of-air-india-flights_1347816
| Quote: | Vadodara: BJP MP and city Mayor Balkrishna Shukla today demanded civil aviation minister Praful Patel that suspended flights to Delhi and Mumbai from the city be resumed.
Air India has suspended its daily morning and evening flights on Mumbai-Vadodara and Delhi-Vadodara route since the
advent of private players.
The government air carrier now operates only evening flight on Delhi-Vadodara route on six days of the week, excluding Sunday.
"If the private airliners can operate on both these routes then what prevents Air India Management to do so on such lucrative and profitable routes?" asked Shukla.
"Vadodara is engineering hub and fertiliser producing centre with the presence of multi national companies," he said.
He also demanded retaining Air India office premises located in Fatehgunj locality in the city from where air India has been functioning since 1970. "It is most convenient for every body to visit this office," he added.
Shukla made this request after learning about the shifting of the office to Tandalja Vasna area on the outskirt of the city.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| i remember in alliance we would operate a circular delhi-baroda-ahmedahad-delhi. one of the favorite flights since you were done for the day by about 10AM, and had the whole day to do your other stuff. |
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nadarji
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:23 pm Post subject: Any news about AI to BOS? |
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| Planning a trip to India in May, any furthur updates on AI coming here to BOS? |
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iah87
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| con spirito wrote: | Vadodara mayor demands restart of Air India flights
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_vadodara-mayor-demands-restart-of-air-india-flights_1347816
| Quote: | Vadodara: BJP MP and city Mayor Balkrishna Shukla today demanded civil aviation minister Praful Patel that suspended flights to Delhi and Mumbai from the city be resumed.
Air India has suspended its daily morning and evening flights on Mumbai-Vadodara and Delhi-Vadodara route since the
advent of private players.
The government air carrier now operates only evening flight on Delhi-Vadodara route on six days of the week, excluding Sunday.
"If the private airliners can operate on both these routes then what prevents Air India Management to do so on such lucrative and profitable routes?" asked Shukla.
"Vadodara is engineering hub and fertiliser producing centre with the presence of multi national companies," he said.
He also demanded retaining Air India office premises located in Fatehgunj locality in the city from where air India has been functioning since 1970. "It is most convenient for every body to visit this office," he added.
Shukla made this request after learning about the shifting of the office to Tandalja Vasna area on the outskirt of the city.
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What difference does it make to Vadodara travellers if an airline suspends service due to poor yields, especially when there are alternate carriers serving BOM-Vadodara. Why should AI restart the route ? This is one of the reasons that AI is losing money due to interference from local and national politicians.
With the exception of government employees (who can always get a waiver since AI is not flying the route) others simply dont care as long as another carrier is flying the route. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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AI pilots lose jobs as Boeing freighters phased out
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/ai-pilots-lose-jobs-as-boeing-freighters-phased-out/86058/on
| Quote: | As national carrier Air India plans to phase out Boeing 747-400 and A-310 freighters, several pilots flying these aircraft, are also on their way out.
Sources today said, Air India has already terminated the service contracts of 30 senior most commanders flying these planes and many more are on the chopping block.
"The service contract of 30 pilots have been terminated effective from February 18," they said.
Sources said, the airline has served a month's notice to these pilots in January, saying that their services were no longer required by the national air carrier.
Air India currently has six Boeing 747-400 and two A-310 cargo carriers in its fleet.
Recently it leased out two another A-310 freighters to Delhi-based cargo airline, Aryan Cargo.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Is AI planning flights to Milan . I came across the following is this any true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ymff87wW8
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| Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Air India has again revamped its website.
Looks Good! Lotsa things still being linked to the Servers/GDS. Heres a Screenie.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| I love how there are pictures of 3 people on the site and none of them are Indian. |
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rutvij wrote:[/b]
Air India has again revamped its website.
Looks Good! Lotsa things still being linked to the Servers/GDS. Heres a Screenie.
Can someone tell AI to add a downloadable Timetable (be it XLS, PDF whatever) in their website?
Their interactive (?) Timetable section is pathetic, at least they can put the whole timetable in one downloadable form. Nothing rockrt science we are asking here!
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Jaysit
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:40 am Post subject: |
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There's nothing new about AI's website.
Every year or so, they trot the same pig out and put lipstick on it. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Nothing has changed except for the home page. I tried to book a flight and it was the exact same interface as before.
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Jaysit
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:39 am Post subject: |
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On another note, AI has been advertising in the DC Metro market for its IAD-DEL flights on Top Forty FM stations, billboards, buses, and newsprint. While I was grocery shopping today, I suddenly heard a sitar refrain on the radio station being blasted. The sitar was followed by a polished male voice saying "if you want to fly to India next time, take the only direct flight to India on Air India, etc., etc."
I haven't heard an AI commercial on radio since 1983, and that was in the NY market for AI's daily 747 flights to LHR.
Who knows if any of this is making a difference, but at least they're trying. I did hear from a friend that the AI line at Dulles was incredibly long yesterday, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there were lots of pax, especially since you have the desi multiplier effect (one passenger, 10 relatives) as well as the desi excess baggage effect that makes any queue for a flight to the subcontinent look really long. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| PAL@YWG wrote: | Can someone tell AI to add a downloadable Timetable (be it XLS, PDF whatever) in their website?
Their interactive (?) Timetable section is pathetic, at least they can put the whole timetable in one downloadable form. Nothing rockrt science we are asking here! |
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iah87
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| On the timetable issue, they should borrow from their former IC counterparts, which still has a downloadable excel timetable. In fact IC coded flights still have a separate timetable. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| iah87 wrote: | | On the timetable issue, they should borrow from their former IC counterparts, which still has a downloadable excel timetable. In fact IC coded flights still have a separate timetable. |
Looks like this is no longer possible. Earlier one could download IC's timetable (in excel format) after making any random flight search, now the same procedure no longer gives you that option.  |
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nadarji
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Check out the AIX schedules, they are in Downloads part of the AIX site. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| nadarji wrote: | | Check out the AIX schedules, they are in Downloads part of the AIX site. |
Checked... it unfortunately lists only the IX schedule. Where do I get to download the IC one? |
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nadarji
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, that wasnt what I was trying to get at..
The AIX schedules have no relation to what they are currently |
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| Any news about Air India storing any aircraft, outside of India? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Air India on auxiliary power as pilots threaten
http://expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Air+India+on+auxiliary+power+as+pilots+threaten&artid=qxYn7Z3JHZY=&SectionID=lifojHIWDUU=&MainSectionID=lifojHIWDUU=&SEO=&SectionName=rSY|6QYp3kQ=
| Quote: | CHENNAI: Air India pilots have threatened to go on strike if aircraft were flown without Auxiliary Power Units (APUs).
It has been a year since Air India started operating aircraft without APU. Its absence not only puts lives at risk but also hikes the cost of the flight, as aircraft without APU have to take a longer overland route to avoid turbulence over high seas.
An APU is a gas turbine engine fitted at the tail-end of an aircraft. Its primary use is to provide ample power to start the main engines and also serves as backup when the engine fails.
“In emergency situations, the first thing a pilot does is to start the APU. About four to five of our A320 aircraft don’t have it. Instead of getting spares, the management has taken a waiver from the Directorate General Civil Aviation (DGCA) to operate aircraft without the unit for 120 days. The management removes APU from one aircraft and fits it into another.
This has been going on for a year,” an Air India pilot said.
While most of these aircraft fly on domestic routes, some also make trips to Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. “While operating on these routes we are now taking a longer flight path by staying closer to land because we cannot fly over large water bodies without the APU. So, we are spending more on fuel. That apart, ground handlers in foreign airports charge a huge fee for facilitating a ground power unit to start the engine,” an Air India source said.
Aviation expert Captain Ranganathan said, “When there is total generator failure mid-air, then the APU can provide the power back-up. E-TOPS (extended twin engine operations) is not possible.
Night flying and flying over the sea are huge risks in the absence of an APU.” Apilot argued that in the Hudson River plane crash last year, the US Airways aircraft was able to stay afloat because the pilot had switched on the APU. |
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