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Water Canon Salute...why not in India?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Water Canon Salute...why not in India? Reply with quote

Noticed one thing common in USA, NZ, Aus, Germany that they have water canon salutes... why not in India? Any reason? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its been done nowadays.

Paramount has had all its Embraers watercanon saluted.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Here you go!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW !!

Chennai ??

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haree, Great!!!!!!

Crew320, it's Coimbatore.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow that looks great... VT-ALA 9W's 773ER, IC A330 and all other new aircrafts should get water canon salutes.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its coimbatore..

Sorry forgot to mention the Photo was courtesy of a good friend of mine flying for paramount
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually cannon salutes are given when the pilot retires and when he taxies his aircraft for the last time, water cannon salute is given then. I am sure that is not the case here with Paramount.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i remember seeing a picture in ToI of an IT a320 being saluted in BOM.... it was the first aircraft to use the new rapid exit taxiway for rwy 32

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shivendrashukla wrote:
Usually cannon salutes are given when the pilot retires and when he taxies his aircraft for the last time, water cannon salute is given then. I am sure that is not the case here with Paramount.

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There are many reasons. Others are new aircraft type, typically a flagship aircraft or for the inaugural flight of a new airline to the airport. For example they could do it when Continental arrives at BOM for the first time. Just don't make the mistake United did recently and spray foam! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:05 am    Post subject: Re: Water Canon Salute...why not in India? Reply with quote

I like the idea of it as well, and I don’t know why they don’t do it in India.
Yes they do it for inaugural flights etc but not for regular scheduled flights [such as a pilot’s last flight which I think is just brilliant.]

Maybe it’s a hassle in India; the bureaucracy and time it would take to get permission from aai/fire department etc it seems painful. (Im guessing, I have no idea)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just don't make the mistake United did recently and spray foam! Very Happy


HE he he.... Very Happy . Pilot must be extremely miffed as to how the visibility drops to zzero is few seconds

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yah and I'm pretty sure the engine was ruined.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe becoz of the acute water shortages which we see in the various cities act as a deterence for water cannon salutes... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reminds me of the air france cargo plane lying completely charred in front of the chennai airport fire station.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Water cannon Salute for Pilots Retirements is not done out here.But can be done for First flight type or as the Rapid Exit taxi track at BOM was inogurated recently had Aircraft passing under a Water cannon salute.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luckily now it has been expanded else previously BOM and DEL Airport FD were horrible!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_380 wrote:
Luckily now it has been expanded else previously BOM and DEL Airport FD were horrible!!!


On the Contrary.I found the BOM Airport Fire Services to be Extremly professional,unlike the Chennai counterparts Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On the Contrary.I found the BOM Airport Fire Services to be Extremly professional,unlike the Chennai counterparts Smile

Are you referring to the recent developments?
And I said with respect to airports like LHR, JFK, EWR, etc
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_380 wrote:
Luckily now it has been expanded else previously BOM and DEL Airport FD were horrible!!!

Just a question- but why were they horrible? Don’t the fire departments have a prescribed time in order to get to the scene of the accident (if it’s within the airport boundary)
I would imagine that the fire departments do meet that requirement. Is there a specific instance you are referring too?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stealthpilot, the fire trucks are quite less in number as compared to other airports, besides the trucks are quite old, although our firefighter personals are not to blame, but the govt should have upgraded them long ago.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never found the BOM Airport fire services to be lagging during a declared Emergency.This on my last 17 years in Aviation at BOM.

The Chennai FD during the AF B747 Freighter mishap story is well known as the staff were too drunk to even hold the hose.That Aircraft need not have been lost.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawk21M wrote:
I've never found the BOM Airport fire services to be lagging during a declared Emergency.This on my last 17 years in Aviation at BOM.

Thats what i said...FF personals are not to blame, but we definately could have had better fire trucks, more in number ... what say HAWK?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few more Fire Trucks would be an asset def.But them Im sure GVK has Audited this.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAWK21M wrote:
A few more Fire Trucks would be an asset def.But them Im sure GVK has Audited this.

Yes now it has been done, infact great fire trucks, special trainers were also called from Aus, Ger and Brazil to train them.
My one pic of those:

And the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcQ93j5t1kA
Sorry for the crappy quality... (publicised this more than 10 times here Razz , sorry for that but was definately impressed with the developments)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Fire Drill Video.
Atleast that A300 is being put to some use Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice Fire Drill Video.
Atleast that A300 is being put to some use Smile

That A300 has already been scrapped now Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That A300 has already been scrapped now Sad


Thats kind of sad to hear, when did this happen , i always thought that this was the A300 that Frankfin had apparently bought to train its personnel or students.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thats kind of sad to hear, when did this happen , i always thought that this was the A300 that Frankfin had apparently bought to train its personnel or students.

Actually a little bird told me that the last A300 to retire might be preserved at DEL along with IAF birds ... dunno anymoer but hoping its true
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Karan69 wrote:

Thats kind of sad to hear, when did this happen , i always thought that this was the A300 that Frankfin had apparently bought to train its personnel or students.

Actually a little bird told me that the last A300 to retire might be preserved at DEL along with IAF birds ... dunno anymoer but hoping its true


Personally I'd like One of each type of Aircraft flown by Indian operators to be preserved in an outdoor museum in the country.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see the ARC B-707-337s being repainted in AI colors and preserved. Too bad, AI did not bother to preserve even one of it's B747-237. Crying or Very sad
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himmat01 wrote:
I would like to see the ARC B-707-337s being repainted in AI colors and preserved. Too bad, AI did not bother to preserve even one of it's B747-237. Crying or Very sad


True & they took quite some time to scrap them [B742] part by part.It was a sorry view.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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stealthpilot, the fire trucks are quite less in number as compared to other airports, besides the trucks are quite old, although our firefighter personals are not to blame, but the govt should have upgraded them long ago.

Sadly I would expect the equipment to be on the old side, but that’s the case for so many things. The employees might be competent but the government has never invested in the infrastructure.
That doesn’t make the fire departments horrible though Smile
Anyway i get your point, im sure the new airports will have more to offer.
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