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deaphen Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 933 Location: India
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: why is jets code 9w? |
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never understood why they choose 9W....is there some statutory requirement that there has to be a number and an alphabet? not likely since we have sg and it.
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avbuff Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: Re: why is jets code 9w? |
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deaphen wrote: | never understood why they choose 9W....is there some statutory requirement that there has to be a number and an alphabet? not likely since we have sg and it.
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nothing like that most airlines have two letters whereas some airlines have alpha numeric codes
G9 Air Arabia
J9 Jazeera Airways
for further information check this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA_airline_designator |
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HAWK21M Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Its the IATA designated code.
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TKMCE Member
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 957
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: Some History |
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I am sure Jet Airways would have liked to use JA when they stared but as far as airline codes go, it is "first come first served" as far as I know. When Jet Airways started in the early in 1990s, JA was already taken up by an airline which had started much much earlier, the former JAT of the undividied Yugoslavia which started in 1927.
Same for Indian Airlines - code IC. By the time IC was formed in the early 1950s, the code was taken by Iraqi Airways which started in 1945.
Qatar Airways is yet another example. THey started with Q9, shifted ina few years to QR after the code was vacated but QA is still off limits as it is used by Aerocaribe, the Mexican airline which was founded in 1975. |
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TKMCE Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: |
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To add to my earlier post, earlier in the era where there were very few airlines, each airline had a unique two letter code. Subsequently the number of airlines increased and some airlines were very reluctant to follow the erstwhile Vayudoot's way (their code was PF - since most of the two letters starting with V were taken). So a combination of a letter and a number was introduced. So you had Modi Luft with M9, East West with 4S, Damania with D2 and NEPC with D5. IATA was actually planning to shift to a three letter ciode and infact all airlines were allocated the same IC- was IAL). But the cutover has been posponed for some time. One reason given was that the earlier ticket stock which was pre printed had space only for a two letter designator and not a three letter one (this was before the Eticket era). But now that IATA is agressively pushing for 100% E ticketing, three letter IATA codes may soon become a reality. |
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G-BYGB Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Indigo airlines has E6 as its code. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos |
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G-BYGB Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Does IATA consider the proposal given by airlines as to what code they want?Do airlines have a say in it? _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos |
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HAWK21M Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Rajeev.Very Educational.
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MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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himmat01 Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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In some cases IATA issues controlled duplicates. It issues the same code to two different airlines on condition that they do not operate in the same area.
Example: IT has been given to Kingfisher Airlines and Irtysh Avia from Kazakhstan. _________________ Save Maharashtra! |
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shivendrashukla Member
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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G-BYGB wrote: | Indigo airlines has E6 as its code. |
I think it 6E.
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deaphen Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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it is 6E.
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nitin |
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the_380 Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Basically airline codes are assigned by the IATA. Its like you've gotta take whatever you get. No wonder even an airline like Singapore Airlines has its code as SQ whereas 'Q' doesn't even come in its name!
Howeven some airlines like Air India, Air Canada, Continental Airways, British Airways, American Airlines, etc were lucky to get their IATA codes as their airlines initials.
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HAWK21M Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: |
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himmat01 wrote: | In some cases IATA issues controlled duplicates. It issues the same code to two different airlines on condition that they do not operate in the same area.
Example: IT has been given to Kingfisher Airlines and Irtysh Avia from Kazakhstan. |
so presuming Irtysh Avia decides to operate India.What would transpire.
Presumingly the International operator would adjust their Flt no.
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justbala Member
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 1898 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I guess it wud be the domestic operator who would change.
If i remember rt Spicejet was initially given the IATA code of OS , which is also used by Austrian. After Austrian started flights to India, Spicejet's code was changed to SG. |
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Nimish Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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justbala wrote: | If i remember rt Spicejet was initially given the IATA code of OS , which is also used by Austrian. After Austrian started flights to India, Spicejet's code was changed to SG. |
Not really - Spicejet's original code was 0S (zero S) and not OS (austrian's code). However they did manage to get it changed to SG which is more relevant to the name. |
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HAWK21M Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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justbala wrote: | I guess it wud be the domestic operator who would change.
If i remember rt Spicejet was initially given the IATA code of OS , which is also used by Austrian. After Austrian started flights to India, Spicejet's code was changed to SG. |
Considering the number of flights in the country.I guess it would make sense for the International operator to adjust their Numbers as the Qty of flights affected would be less.
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shivendrashukla Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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the_380 wrote: |
PS: Im guessing the new AI-IC merged airline will have a new code |
If Pee Pee has his own way, i wouldn't be surprised if the code for the merged entity would be PP
Cheers
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the_380 Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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shivendrashukla wrote: |
If Pee Pee has his own way, i wouldn't be surprised if the code for the merged entity would be PP
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Lols maybe it'll remain AI only _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld
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HAWK21M Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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shivendrashukla wrote: | the_380 wrote: |
PS: Im guessing the new AI-IC merged airline will have a new code |
If Pee Pee has his own way, i wouldn't be surprised if the code for the merged entity would be PP
Cheers
Shivendra |
Very Unlikely to happen
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MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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aarbee Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 328 Location: WAS/AMD
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Nimish wrote: |
Not really - Spicejet's original code was 0S (zero S) and not OS (austrian's code). However they did manage to get it changed to SG which is more relevant to the name. |
Oh gosh! that would be so horrifying, since zero is spoken as 'O' at times.
shivendrashukla wrote: |
If Pee Pee has his own way, i wouldn't be surprised if the code for the merged entity would be PP
Cheers
Shivendra |
Air India ki udan Pe Pe ek shunya ek me aapka swaagat hai. LOL |
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