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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: why is jets code 9w? Reply with quote

never understood why they choose 9W....is there some statutory requirement that there has to be a number and an alphabet? not likely since we have sg and it.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: why is jets code 9w? Reply with quote

deaphen wrote:
never understood why they choose 9W....is there some statutory requirement that there has to be a number and an alphabet? not likely since we have sg and it.

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nothing like that most airlines have two letters whereas some airlines have alpha numeric codes

G9 Air Arabia

J9 Jazeera Airways

for further information check this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA_airline_designator
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its the IATA designated code.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Some History Reply with quote

I am sure Jet Airways would have liked to use JA when they stared but as far as airline codes go, it is "first come first served" as far as I know. When Jet Airways started in the early in 1990s, JA was already taken up by an airline which had started much much earlier, the former JAT of the undividied Yugoslavia which started in 1927.

Same for Indian Airlines - code IC. By the time IC was formed in the early 1950s, the code was taken by Iraqi Airways which started in 1945.

Qatar Airways is yet another example. THey started with Q9, shifted ina few years to QR after the code was vacated but QA is still off limits as it is used by Aerocaribe, the Mexican airline which was founded in 1975.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add to my earlier post, earlier in the era where there were very few airlines, each airline had a unique two letter code. Subsequently the number of airlines increased and some airlines were very reluctant to follow the erstwhile Vayudoot's way (their code was PF - since most of the two letters starting with V were taken). So a combination of a letter and a number was introduced. So you had Modi Luft with M9, East West with 4S, Damania with D2 and NEPC with D5. IATA was actually planning to shift to a three letter ciode and infact all airlines were allocated the same IC- was IAL). But the cutover has been posponed for some time. One reason given was that the earlier ticket stock which was pre printed had space only for a two letter designator and not a three letter one (this was before the Eticket era). But now that IATA is agressively pushing for 100% E ticketing, three letter IATA codes may soon become a reality.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indigo airlines has E6 as its code.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does IATA consider the proposal given by airlines as to what code they want?Do airlines have a say in it?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rajeev.Very Educational.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In some cases IATA issues controlled duplicates. It issues the same code to two different airlines on condition that they do not operate in the same area.

Example: IT has been given to Kingfisher Airlines and Irtysh Avia from Kazakhstan.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G-BYGB wrote:
Indigo airlines has E6 as its code.


I think it 6E.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is 6E.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically airline codes are assigned by the IATA. Its like you've gotta take whatever you get. No wonder even an airline like Singapore Airlines has its code as SQ whereas 'Q' doesn't even come in its name!
Howeven some airlines like Air India, Air Canada, Continental Airways, British Airways, American Airlines, etc were lucky to get their IATA codes as their airlines initials.
PS: Im guessing the new AI-IC merged airline will have a new code Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

himmat01 wrote:
In some cases IATA issues controlled duplicates. It issues the same code to two different airlines on condition that they do not operate in the same area.

Example: IT has been given to Kingfisher Airlines and Irtysh Avia from Kazakhstan.


so presuming Irtysh Avia decides to operate India.What would transpire.
Presumingly the International operator would adjust their Flt no.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it wud be the domestic operator who would change.

If i remember rt Spicejet was initially given the IATA code of OS , which is also used by Austrian. After Austrian started flights to India, Spicejet's code was changed to SG.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justbala wrote:
If i remember rt Spicejet was initially given the IATA code of OS , which is also used by Austrian. After Austrian started flights to India, Spicejet's code was changed to SG.


Not really - Spicejet's original code was 0S (zero S) and not OS (austrian's code). However they did manage to get it changed to SG which is more relevant to the name.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justbala wrote:
I guess it wud be the domestic operator who would change.

If i remember rt Spicejet was initially given the IATA code of OS , which is also used by Austrian. After Austrian started flights to India, Spicejet's code was changed to SG.


Considering the number of flights in the country.I guess it would make sense for the International operator to adjust their Numbers as the Qty of flights affected would be less.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_380 wrote:

PS: Im guessing the new AI-IC merged airline will have a new code Rolling Eyes


If Pee Pee has his own way, i wouldn't be surprised if the code for the merged entity would be PP Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shivendrashukla wrote:

If Pee Pee has his own way, i wouldn't be surprised if the code for the merged entity would be PP Very Happy

Laughing Lols maybe it'll remain AI only
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shivendrashukla wrote:
the_380 wrote:

PS: Im guessing the new AI-IC merged airline will have a new code Rolling Eyes


If Pee Pee has his own way, i wouldn't be surprised if the code for the merged entity would be PP Very Happy

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Very Unlikely to happen Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:

Not really - Spicejet's original code was 0S (zero S) and not OS (austrian's code). However they did manage to get it changed to SG which is more relevant to the name.


Oh gosh! that would be so horrifying, since zero is spoken as 'O' at times.


shivendrashukla wrote:

If Pee Pee has his own way, i wouldn't be surprised if the code for the merged entity would be PP Very Happy

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