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Back to top Aseem Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Sahara proposed new routes Nilanjon wrote: Delhi-Chandigarh anything to do with their tie-up with Indus Air Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:17 am    Post subject: Re: Air Sahara proposed new routes Aseem wrote: Nilanjon wrote: Delhi-Chandigarh anything to do with their tie-up with Indus Air and what are they using for that route? _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top Aseem Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: Air Sahara proposed new routes selecta wrote: and what are they using for that route? there was buzz/news about Indus Air tieing up with S2 regarding former's CRJs, and people were wondering the reason for tie-up.. Back to top COUGAR Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: This looks like a major redployment of their CRJ fleet. i would be VERRY surprised if these were opped with 737's! With the exception of DEL-VAD, which might be with a new 737, all others seem to be CRJ's. _________________ http://www.cougar-rides.com <B>Live to Ride - Ride to Live</B> -- Back to top malQ Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Delhi, India Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Sahara does have this track record of announcing new routes every so often, and then not doing much about it either. Don't get me wrong, I like the airline, use it quite a bit. But on new routes, they go all out and try to set up new stations, and then sometimes don't sustain. PNQ-BLR was one such route that Air Sahara seeded quite well, when there was just IC and 9W with their middle of the day flights, with IC having the crazy BLR-PNQ-GOI-BLR triangle. And then Sahara withdrew from PNQ-BLR just as the cream started flowing and the route started filling up. Now there are over half-a-dozen daily flights on this route, but no Air Sahara. (2 x Kingfisher, 2 x Jet, 1 xIC, 1 x DN, 1 x Indigo, 1 x Spicejet . . .) Back to top selecta Member Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 813 Location: ORD Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: How many CRJ's does Indus own or lease? Sorry I wasn't able to get the info. off their site or I must've missed it. _________________ http://openflights.org/user/citrus Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: http://indusair.biz/ regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: COUGAR wrote: i would be VERRY surprised if these were opped with 737's! With the exception of DEL-VAD, . Boss dont underestimate the financial prosperity which exsists in the indogangetic plain. I can see a 737 operating on the DEL-Khajuraho route. 9W already operates B737 while IC operates a A319 on the same. DEL-ATQ is also one route which they shud have looked. DN is really doing well with its twice daily ATR flights. DEL-CHD again plenty of money to be made on this route. currently shatabdi exp is the preffered mode . CRJ can be a good option to test the market if the loads are gud then the flight can always be upgraded _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top Nilanjon Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 85 Location: Bangalore Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: The S2 website indicates the following 2 new routes 1. Pune-Hyderabad (connecting onto Hyderabad-Nagpur-Delhi flight) 2. Mumbai-Srinagar No sign yet of the other routes like Khajuraho, Udaipur, Jodhpur, Chandigarh !! Air Deccan has probably foreseen this competition from S2 and announced Delhi-Udaipur and Delhi-Jodhpur connections 3/4 times a week respectively. DN's flights sure will attract a lot of domestic tourists, though I'm not sure whether foreign tourists will use DN, given their bad reputation and the fact that tour operators do not prefer DN due to lesser commission margins !! Back to top COUGAR Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: S2 used to operate twice daily on the PNW-HYD route with a morning and evening flight. Both flights used to go out packed on all days!! Until they mysteriously pulled out. _________________ http://www.cougar-rides.com <B>Live to Ride - Ride to Live</B> -- Back to top xterra Member Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 595 Location: DONT KNO Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: do they still hav the 767? havent they returnd the 767? Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Most Probably they have returned the 767 _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: The S2 B763 Is no longer in the county. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top adhithya Member Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 23 Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: What is S2 doing with the international rights they have. They have shown no interest to operate flights to US using their own metal. No point in partnering with AA. They have no concrete plans to buy widebody aircrafts. They are in a mess and i guess the Government should take away S2's rights to operate international flights. Airlines like Kingfisher and DN have planned much better than S2 and have a huge order backlog. They are operating flights just for the sake of being in the aviation sector and have no aim to become a dominant player. Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Looks like S2 wants to stablize the Domestic side before concentrating on International. Personally I hope they do succeed for Indian Aviation.But the reality seems different. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: If u look at the Air Sahara thread u r bound to more info on the airline. Check out the interview given by Mr Sharma who is currently heading the airline. Their current focus in terms of international route is ASEAN countries. Their current DEL-CMB-Male flight seems to be doing well _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: VABBy wrote: If u look at the Air Sahara thread u r bound to more info on the airline. Check out the interview given by Mr Sharma who is currently heading the airline. Can you give a link to the thread/interview? Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: adhithya wrote: They have no concrete plans to buy widebody aircrafts. ... They are operating flights just for the sake of being in the aviation sector and have no aim to become a dominant player. Maybe they plan to be "niche domestic-only" player with no long haul ambitions, and no plans to expand in India either? I find that quite strange myself, but that's the only explanation (if you can call it that). Or maybe they're just holding on to what they've got, hoping that someone else will make a move to buy them out? Much lower price at this time naturally, but something is better than nothing Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2006/09/04/208797/sharma-revives-air-sahara.html here u go mate. 2 more 738 joining S2 leased frm GECAS in Feb & March 2007 _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: S2 goes DEL-PNQ 3 times a day Massive redeployment of the fleet seems to be taking place. First it was the flight to Jammu frm Delhi which was downgraded frm B73H to CRJ. Now The boeings on on the DEL-PNQ seem to hav vanished nw instead of the boeing we have 3 flights operated by CRJ,s on the same route.. _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top COUGAR Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: DEL-PNQ seems to be 2x daily with CRJ's. I quite like the early morning departure and late night return. Wish it was Boeing insetead! And did you see the fares? :O 11K when Jet/IC etc are all available for HALF! _________________ http://www.cougar-rides.com <B>Live to Ride - Ride to Live</B> -- Back to top COUGAR Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Are you counting S2-6161? That one does a madcap DEL-NAG-HYD-PNQ and vv routing!! Really want to be stuck in a sardine can (CRJ) for that loong? _________________ http://www.cougar-rides.com <B>Live to Ride - Ride to Live</B> -- Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Kingfisher has also announced its new summer schedule intended to take on Sahara, Indian and Jet, it says. There will now be mroe flights on the Tier-II cities in the western and southern regions. There will be more flights on the trunk Mumbai-Delhi, Mumbai-Bangalore, and Mumbai-Kolkata and two daily A320 flights on Delhi-Chennai. Currently, Kingfisher has seven Mumbai-Delhi flights daily, to which a couple of more will e added, while the Mumbai-Bangalore sector, which currently has five services daily, will be increased to six. New services will be: Mumbai to Baroda, Jamnagar, Bhuj, Indore and Nagpur. Bangalore-Lakshwadeep Chennai-Madurai Chennai-Trichy Chennai-Coimbatore all from March 26 or so. Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: COUGAR wrote: Are you counting S2-6161? That one does a madcap DEL-NAG-HYD-PNQ and vv routing!! Really want to be stuck in a sardine can (CRJ) for that loong? C,mon CRJ is 2*2 rite??? I guess its 737,s in which u feel stuck esp wen ur in the middle seat. CRJ is better than ATR atleast the aircon works otherwise in summers u feel suffocated. I still remember my first and last journey in ATR terrible .. Btw for sunday ie 25/2 this madcap thing is the cheapest option in the full service carrier segment on DEL-PNQ For an aviation fan this one kool flight u get to visit 4 airports in total with ample amt of multiple meals... _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top Aiel Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: VABBy wrote: For an aviation fan this one kool flight u get to visit 4 airports in total with ample amt of multiple meals... But u have to crouch down to see out of the window in a CRJ. I'm 5'4" and I had to crouch down in my seat while flying in one and developed a crick in my neck. _________________ My Flickr photos My JP.net account Back to top COUGAR Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: I prefer the ATR to the CRj anyday! and god bless the sorry person who has to be stuck on the LAST row which is directlyopposite the toilet! On the 4 CRJ flights that i have been on: 3 have been on the third-last, second last rows and those bitches are LOUD being closer to the cabin and all. I prefer the ATR's much more. _________________ http://www.cougar-rides.com <B>Live to Ride - Ride to Live</B> -- Back to top malQ Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Delhi, India Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: I quite enjoyed the CRJ flights, except during the monsoons when they tend to bounce a fair bit, but that's if they don't get high flight levels. 2x2 seating is dandy, aim for row 8 always, but always. Landing and take-off are low low low on those auto-rickshaw 3-wheeler wheels, and fun, while angle of attack at take-off can make you dream of fighters. Only thing is, the evening DEL-PNQ-DEL flight is very very late, and the morning DEL-PNQ is bound to go expensive. And with 2 cabin crew serving 50 pax in a single class configuration, "service" is personalised. Might fly a CRJ DEL-PNQ in the next few days, though I don't have the bandwidth for the Delhi-Nagpur-Hyderabad-Pune routing, wish I was younger. Could be a record for a CRJ flight? 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