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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:33 pm Post subject: India - Gulf Market (seats, frequencies analysis) |
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Hi guys!
This is something that I wanted to do for a long time, and I would appreciate your comments and suggestions.
I'll be comparing the number of frequencies and seats deployed on the India - Gulf market, between the Gulf Carriers (EK, QR, EY, G9, WY, FZ, GF, KU, SV) vs Indian Carriers (AI, IX, 9W, 6E, SG) for the Summer 2015 schedule.
For this, I will consider one flight to be from the first point of origin to the last, so as to not count the number of frequencies and seats twice, i.e - a RUH-DMM-CCJ will be counted as a flight originating from RUH to CCJ. It will not be counted under DMM
Indian Carriers : -
I. Air India *updated for W15*
a. Abu Dhabi
1. 7 weekly DEL-BAH-AUH (A319)
2. 7 weekly BOM-AUH (A319)
Total frequencies to AUH: - 14 weekly
Total seats to AUH: - 2 * 7 * 122 = 1,708 seats per week
b. Bahrain
1. 7 weekly DEL-BAH-AUH (A319)
Total frequencies to BAH: - 7 weekly
*seats counted under AUH*
c. Dammam
1. 7 weekly DEL-DMM (A321)
Total frequencies to DMM: - 7 weekly
Total seats to DMM: - 7 * 182 = 1,274 seats per week
d. Dubai
1. 7 weekly DEL-DXB (B787)
2. 7 weekly GOI-BOM-DXB (A321)
3. 7 weekly CCJ-DXB (A321)
4. 7 weekly MAA-DXB (A321)
5. 7 weekly VTZ-HYD-DXB (A321)
6. 4 weekly BLR-GOI-DXB (A319)
Total frequencies to DXB: - 39 weekly
Total seats to DXB: - 4 * 122 + 7 * 256 + 28 * 182 = 7,376 seats per week
e. Jeddah
1. 3 weekly DEL-JED (B77W)
2. 4 weekly BOM-JED (B77W)
3. 2 weekly BOM-HYD-JED (B747)
4. 4 weekly COK-JED (B747)
Total frequencies to JED: - 13 weekly
Total seats to JED: - 7 * 342 + 6 * 425 = 4,944 seats per week
f. Kuwait
1. 2 weekly MAA-HYD-KWI (A32S)
2. 3 weekly MAA-GOI-KWI (A32S)
3. 2 weekly MAA-AMD-KWI (A32S)
Total frequencies to KWI: - 7 weekly
Total seats to KWI: - 7 * 180 = 1,260 seats per week
g. Muscat
1. 7 weekly AMD-BOM-MCT (A321)
2. 7 weekly DEL-MCT (A321)
3. 3 weekly BLR-HYD-MCT (A319)
4. 7 weekly MAA-MCT (A319)
Total frequencies to MCT: - 24 weekly
Total seats to MCT: - 14 * 182 + 10 * 122 = 3,768 seats per week
h. Riyadh
1. 3 weekly DEL-RUH (1 B77L + 2 B77W)
2. 7 weekly BOM-RUH (B77W)
3. 3 weekly COK-RUH (B77W)
4. 2 weekly TRV-RUH (B77W)
Total frequencies to RUH: - 15 weekly
Total seats to SHJ: - 14 * 342 + 238 = 5,026 seats per week
i. Sharjah
1. 7 weekly MAA-TRV-SHJ (A320)
2. 7 weekly COK-SHJ (A32S)
3. 7 weekly CCJ-SHJ (A321)
Total frequencies to SHJ: - 21 weekly
Total seats to SHJ: - 7 * 140 + 7 * 180 + 7 * 182 = 3,514 seats per week
GRAND TOTAL OF FREQUENCIES TO GULF BY AIR INDIA =147 weekly flights
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY AIR INDIA =28,870 seats per week
II. Air India Express
a. Abu Dhabi
1. 7 weekly CCJ-AUH (B738)
2. 7 weekly COK-AUH (B738)
3. 7 weekly TRV-AUH (B738)
4. 4 weekly IXE-AUH (B738)
Total frequencies to AUH: - 25 weekly
Total seats to AUH: - 25 * 186 = 4,650 seats per week
b. Al Ain
1. 1 weekly CCJ-AAN (B738)
Total frequencies to AAN: - 1 weekly
Total seats to AAN: - 1 * 186 = 186 seats per week
c. Bahrain
1. 7 weekly COK-CCJ-BAH-DOH (B738)
2. 3 weekly IXE-BAH-KWI (B738)
Total frequencies to BAH: - 10 weekly
*seats counted under DOH and KWI respectively*
d. Dammam
1. 4 weekly CCJ-DMM (B738)
2. 3 weekly IXE-DMM (B738)
Total frequencies to DMM: - 7 weekly
Total seats to DMM: - 7 * 186 = 1,302 seats per week
e. Doha
1. 7 weekly CCJ-COK-DOH-BAH (B738)
2. 2 weekly IXE-DOH (B738)
3. 2 weekly CCJ-DOH (B738)
4. 4 weekly BOM-DOH (B738)
Total frequenciies to DOH: - 15 weekly
Total seats to DOH: - 15 * 186 = 2,790 seats per week
f. Dubai
1. 7 weekly ATQ-DXB (B738)
2. 7 weekly LKO-DXB (B738)
3. 7 weekly TRZ-DXB (B738)
4. 7 weekly COK-DXB (B738)
5. 7 weekly CCJ-DXB (B738)
6. 6 weekly TRV-DXB (B738)
7. 4 weekly JAI-DXB (B738)
8. 3 weekly PNQ-DXB (B738)
9. 14 weekly IXE-DXB (B738)
Total frequencies to DXB: - 62 weekly
Total seats to DXB: - 62 * 186 = 11,532 seats per week
g. Kuwait
1. 3 weekly CCJ-KWI (B738)
2. 3 weekly IXE-BAH-KWI (B738)
Total frequencies to KWI: - 6 weekly
Total seats to KWI: - 6 * 186 = 1,116 seats per week
h. Muscat
1. 7 weekly CCJ-MCT (B738)
2. 5 weekly COK-MCT (B738)
3. 4 weekly TRV-MCT (B738)
4. 3 weekly IXE-MCT (B738)
Total frequencies to MCT: - 19 weekly
Total seats to MCT: - 19 * 186 = 3,534 seats per week
i. Salalah
1. 2 weekly CCJ-SLL (B738)
2. 1 weekly TRV-COK-SLL (B738)
Total frequencies to SLL: - 3 weekly
Total seats to SLL: - 3 * 186 = 558 seats per week
j. Sharjah
1. 7 weekly CCJ-SHJ (B738)
2. 7 weekly COK-SHJ (B738)
3. 3 weekly TRV-SHJ (B738)
4. 3 weekly VNS-SHJ (B738) *effective 17th August*
Total frequencies to SHJ: - 20 weekly
Total seats to SHJ: - 20 * 186 = 3,720 seats per week
GRAND TOTAL OF FREQUENCIES TO GULF BY AIR INDIA EXPRESS =168 weekly flights
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY AIR INDIA EXPRESS =29,388 seats per week
III. indiGo
a. Dubai
1. 14 weekly DEL-DXB (A320)
2. 14 weekly BOM-DXB (A320)
3. 7 weekly MAA-DXB (A320)
4. 7 weekly HYD-DXB (A320)
5. 7 weekly COK-DXB (A320)
6. 7 weekly TRV-DXB (A320)
7. 7 weekly BLR-DXB (A320)
8. 7 weekly CCJ-DXB (A320)
Total frequencies to DXB: - 70 weekly
Total seats to DXB: - 70 * 180 = 12,600 seats per week
b. Muscat
1. 7 weekly BOM-MCT (A320)
Total frequencies to MCT: - 7 weekly
Total seats to MCT: - 7 * 180 = 1,260 seats per week
GRAND TOTAL OF FREQUENCIES TO GULF BY INDIGO = 77 weekly flights
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY INDIGO =13,860 seats per week
IV. SpiceJet
a. Dubai
1. 7 weekly DEL-DXB (B738)
2. 7 weekly BOM-DXB (B738)
3. 7 weekly AMD-DXB (B738)
4. 7 weekly COK-DXB (B738)
5. 7 weekly IXM-DXB (B738)
6. 7 weekly PNQ-DXB (B738)
7. 7 weekly ATQ-DXB (B738) *begins 15 November*
8. 7 weekly CCJ-DXB (B738) *begins 15 November*
Total frequencies to DXB: - 56 weekly
Total seats to DXB: - 56 * 186 = 10,416 seats per week
b. Muscat
1. 5 weekly AMD-MCT (B738)
Total frequencies to MCT: - 5 weekly
Total seats to MCT: - 5 * 186 = 930 seats per week
GRAND TOTAL OF FREQUENCIES TO GULF BY SPICEJET =61 weekly
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY SPICEJET =11,346 seats per week
*thanks basheer1211 for the last two airlines! * _________________ <a><img></a>
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me111993 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent stuff Abhijeeth. I'm bookmarking this page now.
For 9W, each 737, take a standard 12/156 config, as it will all come down to that eventually
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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V. Jet Airways
a. Abu Dhabi
1. 14 weekly BOM-AUH (B73H)
2. 7 weekly DEL-AUH (B73H)
3. 7 weekly COK-AUH (B73H)
4. 7 weekly BLR-AUH (B73H)
5. 7 weekly AMD-AUH (B73H)
6. 7 weekly LKO-AUH (B73H)
7. 7 weekly GOI-AUH (B73H) *to operate between 10DEC - 31JAN*
8. 7 weekly MAA-AUH (B73H)
9. 7 weekly HYD-AUH (B73H)
10. 7 weekly PNQ-AUH (B73H)
11. 7 weekly IXE-AUH (B73H)
Total frequencies out of AUH: - 84 weekly
Total seats out of AUH: - 84 * 168 = 14,112 seats per week
b. Bahrain
1. 7 weekly BOM-BAH (B73H)
Total frequencies out of BAH: - 7 weekly
Total seats out of BAH: - 7 * 168 = 1,176 seats per week
c. Dammam
1. 7 weekly BOM-DMM (B739)
2. 7 weekly DEL-DMM (B73H)
3. 7 weekly COK-DMM (B73H)
4. 7 weekly CCJ-DMM (B73H)
5. 7 weekly TRV-DMM (B73H)
Total frequencies out of DMM: - 35 weekly
Total seats out of DMM: - 7 * 184 + 28 * 168 = 5,992 seats per week
d. Doha
1. 14 weekly BOM-DOH (B73H)
2. 7 weekly DEL-DOH (B73H)
3. 7 weekly CCJ-DOH (B73H)
4. 7 weekly COK-DOH (B73H)
5. 7 weekly TRV-DOH (B73H)
Total frequencies out of DOH: - 42 weekly
Total seats out of DOH: - 42 * 168 = 7,056 seats per week
e. Dubai
1. 35 weekly BOM-DXB (B73H)
2. 14 weekly DEL-DXB (B73H)
3. 7 weekly IXE-DXB (B73H)
4. 7 weekly COK-DXB (B73H)
Total frequencies out of DXB: -63 weekly
Total seats out of DXB: - 7 * 154 + 56 * 168 =10,486 seats per week
f. Jeddah
1. 7 weekly BOM-JED (B739)
Total frequencies out of JED: -7 weekly
Total seats out of JED: - 7 * 184 = 1,288 seats per week
g. Kuwait
1. 14 weekly BOM-KWI (B73H)
Total frequencies out of KWI: - 14 weekly
Total seats out of KWI: - 14 * 168 = 2,536 seats per week
h. Muscat
1. 7 weekly BOM-MCT (B73H)
2. 7 weekly COK-MCT (B73H)
3. 7 weekly TRV-MCT (B73H)
Total frequencies out of MCT: - 21 weekly
Total seats out of MCT: - 21 * 168 = 3,528 seats per week
i. Riyadh
1. 7 weekly BOM-RUH (B739)
Total frequencies out of RUH: - 7 weekly
Total seats out of RUH: - 7 * 184 = 1,288 seats per week
j. Sharjah
1. 7 weekly COK-SHJ (B73H)
Total frequencies out of SHJ: - 7 weekly
Total seats out of SHJ: - 7 * 168 = 1,176 seats per week
GRAND TOTAL OF FREQUENCIES TO GULF BY JET AIRWAYS =294 weekly flights
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY JET AIRWAYS =48,638 seats per week
GRAND TOTAL OF FREQUENCIES TO GULF BY INDIAN CARRIERS =747 weekly flights
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY INDIAN CARRIERS =129,642 seats per week _________________ <a><img></a>
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Caliguy Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Great job.
Now how many SEATS do ME3 have and then all gulf carriers have |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Caliguy wrote: | Great job.
Now how many SEATS do ME3 have and then all gulf carriers have |
Thanks!
Working on it, and should be out soon. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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TKMCE Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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(deleted part of post no longer relevant as the reply in question has been deleted)
Abhijit16 - Good work. I am taking the liberty to offer some feedback.
1 You are double counting one flight between COK/CCJ and DOH BAH
There is only one departure. Let me list out the rotation.
IX 473 COK 1350 CCJ 1440
IX 473 CCJ 1550 BAH 1740
IX 473 BAH 1840 DOH 1930
IX 474 DOH 2030 CCJ 0320
IX 474 CCJ 0425 COK 0510
It is a COK-CCJ-BAH-DOH-CCJ-COK rotation. BAH -CCJ alone is sold as IX 473/474. There is no CCJ-COK-BAH-DOH rotation as you mentioned so you have double counted.
2 Regarding SLL. CCJ-SLL is a turnaround flight once weekly as you mentioned. But COK-SLL and TRV-SLL is actually one weekly combined rotation and not two separate rotations.
Here are the details
IX 405 Thu COK 0925 TRV 1015
IX 543 Thu TRV 1120 SLL 1340
IX 544 Thu SLL 1440 COK 2000
IX 544 Thu COK 2050 TRV 2140
COK SLL is sold as IX 405/543 ,TRV SLL as IX 543 , SLL COK and SLL TRV as IX 544. So again you have double counting.
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basheer1211 Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi Abhijit,
I apologize if I had hijacked your thread. I didn't think that it will be taken this way. I just thought to share.
TKMCE wrote: | Basheer1211
I don't know or care what others think, but in my opinion, you hijacking abhijith16 thread was obnoxious and disgusting and against acceptable norms of forum behaviour (if there is any that is ). Abhijit16 had clearly said Indigo, Spice Jet and Jet is coming up .You can always demonstrate your competence and expertise in another thread of your own.
Also suggest you respect the English language a little more. Or I guess my geography is hopeless. Do let me know where this "muscut" is ??? |
Better dont overreact. Educate me if I am wrong. There is a much polite way than this if you really care. Anyway, thanks for your opinion. I will try not to repeat. |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Foreign Carriers : -
I. Kuwait Airways
a. Ahmedabad
3 weekly KWI-AMD *resumes 1st September*
b. Bengaluru
3 weekly KWI-BLR (A320) *starts 16th September*
c. Chennai
4 weekly KWI-MAA (A300)
d. Kochi
14 weekly KWI-COK (A320)
e. Mumbai
7 weekly KWI-BOM (B777)
f. New Delhi
7 weekly KWI-DEL (A320)
g. Thiruvananthapuram
4 weekly KWI-TRV (A300)
Total frequencies out of KWI: - 42 weekly
Total seats out of KWI: - 27 * 130 + 8 * 232 + 7 * 273 =7,277 seats per week
II. Gulf Air*effective W15*
a. New Delhi
14 weekly BAH-DEL (A321)
b. Mumbai
14 weekly BAH-BOM (A321)
c. Kochi
7 weekly BAH-COK (A321)
d. Chennai
9 weekly BAH-MAA (A321)
1 weekly BAH-MAA (A320)
e. Thiruvanathapuram
7 weekly BAH-TRV (A321)
f. Hyderabad
4 weekly BAH-HYD (A321)
1 weekly BAH-HYD (A320)
Total frequencies out of BAH: - 57 weekly
Total seats out of BAH: - 136 * 2 + 169 * 55 =9,567 seats per week
III. Saudia
a. Bengaluru
1 weekly JED-DMM-BLR (A333)
1 weekly JED-RUH-BLR (A333)
1 weekly JED-BLR (A333)
Total frequencies into BLR: - 3 weekly
Total seats into BLR: - 3 * 298 = 894 seats per week
b. Chennai
1 weekly JED-DMM-MAA (A333)
2 weekly JED-MAA (A333)
3 weekly RUH-MAA (A333)
Total frequencies into MAA: - 6 weekly
Total seats into MAA: - 6 * 298 =1,782 seats per week
c. New Delhi
1 weekly MED-RUH-DEL (B772)
3 weekly DMM-DEL (A320)
3 weekly JED-DEL (B772)
3 weekly RUH-DEL (B772)
Total frequencies to DEL: - 10 weekly
Total seats into DEL:- 7 * 341 + 3 * 132 =2,783 seats per week
d. Hyderabad
1 weekly JED-DMM-HYD (B772)
2 weekly JED-HYD (B772)
3 weekly RUH-HYD (B772)
Total frequencies into HYD: - 6 weekly
Total seats into HYD: - 6 * 341 =2,046 seats per week
e. Kochi
2 weekly JED-DMM-COK (A333)
1 weekly JED-RUH-COK (A333)
2 weekly RUH-COK (A333)
Total frequencies into COK:- 5 weekly
Total seats into COK: - 5 * 298 =1,192 seats per week
f. Kozhikode
1 weekly JED-DMM-CCJ (B772)
1 weekly JED-RUH-CCJ (B772)
2 weekly RUH-CCJ (B772)
3 weekly JED-CCJ (B772)
Total frequencies into CCJ: - 7 weekly
Total seats into CCJ: - 7 * 341 =2,387 seats per week
g. Lucknow
2 weekly JED-LKO (A333)
2 weekly RUH-LKO (A333)
1 weekly JED-RUH-LKO (A333)
Total frequencies into LKO: -5 weekly
Total seats into LKO:- 5 * 298 =1,490 seats per week
h. Mumbai
1 weekly MED-RUH-BOM (B772)
5 weekly JED-BOM (B772)
3 weekly DMM-BOM (A320)
3 weekly RUH-BOM (B772)
Total frequencies into BOM:- 12 weekly
Total seats into BOM: - 9 * 341 + 3 * 132 =3,465 seats per week
Total frequencies into India: - 55 weekly
Total seats into India: -16,049 seats per week _________________ <a><img></a>
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himmat01 Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Excellent job Abhijith. Really appreciate it. India-Gulf traffic has more than doubled during the last 10 years. _________________ Save Maharashtra! |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:22 am Post subject: |
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* THE MIDDLE EAST BIG 3 *
IV. Qatar Airways*effective W15*
a. Amritsar
7 weekly DOH-ATQ (A321)
Total seats: - 7 * 182 =1,274 seats per week
b. Ahmedabad
7 weekly DOH-AMD (A321)
Total seats: - 7 * 182 =1,274 seats per week
c. Bengaluru
7 weekly DOH-BLR (B77W)
Total seats: - 7 * 335 =2,345 seats per week
d. Chennai
7 weekly DOH-MAA (A333)
Total seats: - 7 * 305 =2,135 seats per week
e. New Delhi
14 weekly DOH-DEL (B787)
Total seats: - 14 * 254 =3,556 seats per week
f. Goa
7 weekly DOH-GOI (A321)
Total seats: - 7 * 182 =1,274 seats per week
g. Hyderabad
7 weekly DOH-HYD (A321)
Total seats: - 7 * 182 =1,274 seats per week
h. Kochi
7 weekly DOH-COK (A346)
3 weekly DOH-COK (A333)
1 weekly DOH-COK (A332)
Total seats: - 7 * 310 + 3 * 305 + 1 * 262 = 3,347 seats per week
i. Kozhikode
7 weekly DOH-CCJ (A321)
Total seats: - 7 * 196 =1,372 seats per week
j. Kolkata
7 weekly DOH-CCU (B787) *upgauges effective 1st December 2015*
Total seats: - 7 * 254 =1,778 seats per week
k. Mumbai
7 weekly DOH-BOM (B77W)
Total seats: - 7 * 335 =2,345 seats per week
l. Nagpur *resumes 1st December 2015*
7 weekly DOH-NAG (A320)
Total seats: - 7 * 144 = 1,008 seats per week
m. Thiruvananthapuram
7 weekly DOH-TRV (A321)
Total seats: - 7 * 182 =1,274 seats per week
Total flights to India: - 102 weekly
Total seats to India: -24,221 seats per week
V. ETIHAD *effective W15*
a. Ahmedabad
7 weekly AUH-AMD (A321)
Total seats: - 7 * 174 =1,218 seats per week
b. Bengaluru
7 weekly AUH-BLR (A320)
7 weekly AUH-BLR (A321)
Total seats: - 7 * 136 + 7 * 174 =2,170 seats per week
c. Chennai
14 weekly AUH-MAA (A320)
7 weekly AUH-MAA (A321)
Total seats: - 14 * 136 + 7 * 174 =3,122 seats per week
d. New Delhi
7 weekly AUH-DEL (B77W)
7 weekly AUH-DEL (B77L)
7 weekly AUH-DEL (A321)
Total seats: - 7 * 346 + 7 * 225 + 7 * 174 =5,107 seats per week
e. Hyderabad
7 weekly AUH-HYD (A332)
14 weekly AUH-HYD (A320)
Total seats: - 7 * 262 + 14 * 136 =3,738 seats per week
f. Jaipur
7 weekly AUH-JAI (A320)
Total seats: - 7 * 136 =952 seats per week
g. Kolkata
7 weekly AUH-CCU (A320)
Total seats: - 7 * 136 =952 seats per week
h. Kozhikode
14 weekly AUH-CCJ (A321) *1 A321 frequency ends 01DEC*
7 weekly AUH-CCJ (A320)
Total seats: - 14 * 174 + 7 * 136 =3,388 seats per week
i. Kochi
14 weekly AUH-COK (A321)
7 weekly AUH-COK (A320)
Total seats: - 14 * 174 + 7 * 136 =3,388 seats per week
j. Mumbai
12 weekly AUH-BOM (B77W)
2 weekly AUH-BOM (A332)
7 weekly AUH-BOM (A320)
Total seats: - 12 * 346 + 7 * 136 + 2 * 262 =5,628 seats per week
k. Thiruvananthapuram
14 weekly AUH-TRV (A320)
Total seats: - 14 * 136 =1,904 seats per week
Total frequencies into India: - 178 weekly
Total seats into India: - 31,577 seats per week
VI. Emirates*effective W15*
a. Ahmedabad
3 weekly DXB-AMD (A332)
7 weekly DXB-AMD (A332)
1 weekly DXB-AMD (B772)
Total seats: - 3 * 278 + 10 * 238 + 290 =3,504 seats per week
b. Bengaluru
11 weekly DXB-BLR (B772)
10 weekly DXB-BLR (B77W)
Total seats: - 11 * 290 + 10 * 360 = 7,150 seats per week
c. Chennai
14 weekly DXB-MAA (B773)
7 weekly DXB-MAA (B77W)
Total seats: - 14 * 364 + 7 * 360 = 7,616 seats per week
d. New Delhi
8 weekly DXB-DEL (B773)
13 weekly DXB-DEL (B77W)
7 weekly DXB-DEL (B772)
Total seats: - 13 * 360 + 8 * 364 + 7 * 290 = 9,622 seats per week
e. Hyderabad
6 weekly DXB-HYD (B772)
8 weekly DXB-HYD (B77W)
7 weekly DXB-HYD (B77W)
Total seats: - 6 * 290 + 7 * 360 + 8 * 354 = 7,382 seats per week
f. Kolkata
7 weekly DXB-CCU (B772)
6 weekly DXB-CCU (A332)
Total seats: - 7 * 290 + 6 * 278 = 3,698 seats per week
g. Kochi
2 weekly DXB-COK (A332)
2 weekly DXB-COK (B772)
7 weekly DXB-COK (B773)
1 weekly DXB-COK (B77W)
2 weekly DXB-COK (B77W)
Total seats: - 2 * 237 + 2 * 290 + 7 * 364 + 354 + 2 * 360 = 4,676 seats per week
h. Kozhikode *schedules yet to be released*
i. Mumbai
8 weekly DXB-BOM (B773)
10 weekly DXB-BOM (B77W)
2 weekly DXB-BOM (A38B)
2 weekly DXB-BOM (A388)
3 weekly DXB-BOM (A38B)
10 weekly DXB-BOM (B772)
Total seats: - 8 * 364 + 10 * 360 + 2 * 517 + 2 * 489 + 3 * 519 + 10 * 290 = 12,981 seats per week
j. Thiruvanathapuram
10 weekly DXB-TRV (A332)
2 weekly DXB-TRV (B772) *this may be incorrect as EK has phased out the last 2-class 772 last week!*
Total seats: - 10 * 278 + 2 * 346 = 3,472 seats per week
Total frequencies to India: - 178 weekly
Total seats to India: - 60,101 seats per week
In total, the Middle East Big 3 (EK,EY,QR) fly 444 times a week, carrying 115,929 seats per week _________________ <a><img></a>
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abhijith16 Member
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himmat01 wrote: | Excellent job Abhijith. Really appreciate it. India-Gulf traffic has more than doubled during the last 10 years. |
Thanks Himmat!
It really has. Just imagine, back in 2002, there were only about a 100 weekly frequencies to between the two, now it has just exploded! _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 Member
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TKMCE wrote: | (deleted part of post no longer relevant as the reply in question has been deleted)
Abhijit16 - Good work. I am taking the liberty to offer some feedback.
1 You are double counting one flight between COK/CCJ and DOH BAH
There is only one departure. Let me list out the rotation.
IX 473 COK 1350 CCJ 1440
IX 473 CCJ 1550 BAH 1740
IX 473 BAH 1840 DOH 1930
IX 474 DOH 2030 CCJ 0320
IX 474 CCJ 0425 COK 0510
It is a COK-CCJ-BAH-DOH-CCJ-COK rotation. BAH -CCJ alone is sold as IX 473/474. There is no CCJ-COK-BAH-DOH rotation as you mentioned so you have double counted.
2 Regarding SLL. CCJ-SLL is a turnaround flight once weekly as you mentioned. But COK-SLL and TRV-SLL is actually one weekly combined rotation and not two separate rotations.
Here are the details
IX 405 Thu COK 0925 TRV 1015
IX 543 Thu TRV 1120 SLL 1340
IX 544 Thu SLL 1440 COK 2000
IX 544 Thu COK 2050 TRV 2140
COK SLL is sold as IX 405/543 ,TRV SLL as IX 543 , SLL COK and SLL TRV as IX 544. So again you have double counting. |
Thanks for the input, sir. I'll make the corrections. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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Awesome stuff ! Great read and a benchmark for further additions by all in the region ! _________________ www.networkthoughts.com |
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ameya wrote: | Awesome stuff ! Great read and a benchmark for further additions by all in the region ! |
Thank you sir! Means a lot, coming from you! _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 Member
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VII. flydubai
a. Ahmedabad
2 weekly DXB-AMD (B73H)
Total seats: - 2 * 174 = 348 seats per week
b. Chennai
3 weekly DXB-MAA (B73H)
Total seats: - 3 * 174 = 522 seats per week
c. New Delhi
5 weekly DXB-DEL (B73H)
Total seats: - 5 * 174 = 870 seats per week
d. Hyderabad
4 weekly DXB-HYD (B73H)
Total seats: - 4 * 174 = 696 seats per week
e. Lucknow
3 weekly DXB-LKO (B73H)
Total seats: - 3 * 174 = 522 seats per week
f. Kochi
4 weekly DXB-COK (B73H)
Total seats: - 4 * 174 = 522 seats per week
g. Mumbai
5 weekly DXB-BOM (B73H)
Total seats: - 5 * 174 = 870 seats per week
h. Thiruvananthapuram
3 weekly DXB-TRV (B73H)
Total seats: - 3 * 174 = 522 seats per week
Total frequencies to India: - 29 weekly
Total seats to India: - 5,046 seats per week
VIII. Air Arabia
a. Ahmedabad
7 weekly SHJ-AMD (A320)
b. Bengaluru
7 weekly SHJ-BLR (A320)
c. Chennai
7 weekly SHJ-MAA (A320)
d. Coimbatore
5 weekly SHJ-CJB (A320)
e. New Delhi
14 weekly SHJ-DEL (A320)
f. Goa
5 weekly SHJ-GOI (A320)
g. Hyderabad
7 weekly SHJ-HYD (A320)
h. Jaipur
7 weekly SHJ-JAI (A320)
i. Kochi
14 weekly SHJ-COK (A320)
j. Kozhikode
7 weekly SHJ-CCJ (A320)
k. Mumbai
14 weekly SHJ-BOM (A320)
l. Nagpur
3 weekly SHJ-NAG (A320)
m. Thiruvananthapuram
14 weekly SHJ-TRV (A320)
Total frequencies into India: - 111 weekly
Total seats into India: - 162 * 111 = 17,982 seats per week
IX. Oman Air
a. Bengaluru
7 weekly MCT-BLR (B73H)
b. Chennai
14 weekly MCT-MAA (B73H)
c. New Delhi
14 weekly MCT-DEL (B73H)
d. Goa
6 weekly MCT-GOI (B73H)
e. Hyderabad
14 weekly MCT-HYD (B73H)
f. Jaipur
7 weekly MCT-JAI (B73H)
g. Kochi
7 weekly MCT-COK (B73H)
h. Kozhikode
7 weekly MCT-CCJ (B73H)
i. Lucknow
7 weekly MCT-LKO (B73H)
j. Mumbai
14 weekly MCT-BOM (B73H)
k. Thiruvanathapuram
7 weekly MCT-TRV (B73H)
Total frequencies to India: - 104 weekly
Total seats into India: - 156 * 104 = 16,224 seats per week
GRAND TOTAL OF FREQUENCIES TO GULF BY FOREIGN CARRIERS =856 weekly flights
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY FOREIGN CARRIERS =187,002 seats per week _________________ <a><img></a>
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The_Goat Member
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Thank you abhijit. That was some week-end exercise, I bet
abhijit16 wrote: |
GRAND TOTAL OF FREQUENCIES TO GULF BY FOREIGN CARRIERS =767 weekly flights
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY FOREIGN CARRIERS =170,551 seats per week
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abhijit16 wrote: |
GRAND TOTAL OF FREQUENCIES TO GULF BY INDIAN CARRIERS =687 weekly flights
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY INDIAN CARRIERS =118,342 seats per week
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The way I see it, the five Indian carriers are able to compete very well with the nine Gulf ones, at least in terms of the number of seats and the frequency. Nine Gulf carriers do a total of only 767 flights, while only five Indian ones are able to manage 687! The difference isn't great at all.
It is the same with the number of seats, which is surprising given all the 777s and A333 the Gulf biggies operate to India, and the ninny 737s and A320s, barring a few, that the Indian ones operate there.
So it is heartening to know that our beleaguered Indian carriers are actually putting up a good fight and even winning in places. Good on 'em. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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Wow Abhijit it must have taken ages to put this together .... great stuff.
abhijit16 wrote: | GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY FOREIGN CARRIERS =170,551 seats per week
GRAND TOTAL OF SEATS TO GULF BY INDIAN CARRIERS =118,342 seats per week |
I was expecting the Gulf:Indian spread to be much higher.
For every 10 passengers the Indian carriers transported the Gulf carriers did 15 .... which is pretty damn good. That's a good ratio when compared to India:foreign carrier traffic to a whole bunch of other places- France, Germany, UK, Singapore, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Hong Kong, Malaysia (lets not even go there )
I agree with The Goat, good to see the Indian carriers that strong in the region (at least seat wise) _________________ eP007 |
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Great Job, Abhijeeth. |
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sumantra Member
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Amazing analysis, Abhijith, and a eye opener for ignoramuses like me!
Admiringly, Sumantra. |
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Amazing Job Abhijeet. Brilliant Stuff!!!
Cheers
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Devesh Member
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Dear Abhijit
Hats off to you sir. Your work is just fantastic.
Regards _________________ ----------------------
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abhijith16 Member
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Thanks everyone! Didn't expect such a response!
nadarji wrote: | Great Job, Abhijeeth. |
sumantra wrote: | Amazing analysis, Abhijith, and a eye opener for ignoramuses like me!
Admiringly, Sumantra. |
shivendrashukla wrote: | Amazing Job Abhijeet. Brilliant Stuff!!!
Cheers
Shivendra |
Devesh wrote: | Dear Abhijit
Hats off to you sir. Your work is just fantastic.
Regards |
Thanks so much guys! Really means a lot!
The_Goat wrote: | Thank you abhijit. That was some week-end exercise, I bet |
It sure was! Especially decoding Emirates's schedule page!
The_Goat wrote: |
The way I see it, the five Indian carriers are able to compete very well with the nine Gulf ones, at least in terms of the number of seats and the frequency. Nine Gulf carriers do a total of only 767 flights, while only five Indian ones are able to manage 687! The difference isn't great at all.
It is the same with the number of seats, which is surprising given all the 777s and A333 the Gulf biggies operate to India, and the ninny 737s and A320s, barring a few, that the Indian ones operate there.
So it is heartening to know that our beleaguered Indian carriers are actually putting up a good fight and even winning in places. Good on 'em. |
+1000.
Even if the ME lead by 90 weeklies and 50,000 seats, the best part is Indian carriers have caught up and are giving quite a challenge.
And, if the 5/20 rule was diluted/relaxed/abolished, I bet there will be a further explosion of flights to the Gulf, especially from I5, G8, Vistara.
stealthpilot wrote: | Wow Abhijit it must have taken ages to put this together .... great stuff.
I was expecting the Gulf:Indian spread to be much higher.
For every 10 passengers the Indian carriers transported the Gulf carriers did 15 .... which is pretty damn good. That's a good ratio when compared to India:foreign carrier traffic to a whole bunch of other places- France, Germany, UK, Singapore, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Hong Kong, Malaysia (lets not even go there )
I agree with The Goat, good to see the Indian carriers that strong in the region (at least seat wise) |
I concur. I was quite surprised to see a small gap between the two.
And yeah, Malaysia for Indian carriers is just embarrasing, we have only 4 weeklies to KUL, while MH/AK/OD slam with 100+ frequencies.
I can at least say, confidently, that AI, IX and 9W have got this region right. They understood the dynamics pretty well, and went for it. There is still some more room to expand. Especially in RUH/JED, which is quite underserved. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 wrote: | Thanks everyone! Didn't expect such a response!
I can at least say, confidently, that AI, IX and 9W have got this region right. They understood the dynamics pretty well, and went for it. There is still some more room to expand. Especially in RUH/JED, which is quite underserved. |
Dear Abhijith
Thank you for a fantastic thread and an outstanding analysis
2 things stick out
1. Still some unused bilaterals on the Indian side to DXB (60k seats each I think out of which Indian carriers are using ~ 45k) and to Saudi (IIRC it was capped at 63 weekly barring DMM which is an open port)
2. 6e has chosen to concentrate on 2 destinations and multiple frequencies across India while AIX is massively spread out - I was surprised to see the 2 a week to Al Ain and Salalah- I would seriously doubt the profitability of either of these routes simply because of the high fixed costs of running a station outweighing any return
Thanks again for this wonderful analysis |
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15a wrote: |
2. 6e has chosen to concentrate on 2 destinations and multiple frequencies across India while AIX is massively spread out - I was surprised to see the 2 a week to Al Ain and Salalah- I would seriously doubt the profitability of either of these routes simply because of the high fixed costs of running a station outweighing any return
Thanks again for this wonderful analysis |
IX never had staff based in AAN or SLL. For the AAN flight the staff used to drive down from AUH and SLL was covered by the MCT staff. The counters were maned by the local handling agency staff with the senior IX staff overseeing everything. That's how IX tried to keep the overheads down.
PS: things may have changed since jan 13. I don't have updated information post that date
@abhijith
Sorry to hijack your thread. You have done a fantastic job with the seat analysis _________________ Always do everything into wind...... except piss |
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Excellent job with the analysis!
Given the ME3 are doing a lot of transit traffic, it implies that in O&D terms - probably more goes on Indian carriers! _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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Top analysis.
Can you elaborate on AI's DEL-BAH-AUH flight? Is it a triangular return (DEL-BAH-AUH-DEL) or does it stopover at BAH again? _________________ Yeah. |
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15a wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | Thanks everyone! Didn't expect such a response!
I can at least say, confidently, that AI, IX and 9W have got this region right. They understood the dynamics pretty well, and went for it. There is still some more room to expand. Especially in RUH/JED, which is quite underserved. |
Dear Abhijith
Thank you for a fantastic thread and an outstanding analysis
2 things stick out
1. Still some unused bilaterals on the Indian side to DXB (60k seats each I think out of which Indian carriers are using ~ 45k) and to Saudi (IIRC it was capped at 63 weekly barring DMM which is an open port)
2. 6e has chosen to concentrate on 2 destinations and multiple frequencies across India while AIX is massively spread out - I was surprised to see the 2 a week to Al Ain and Salalah- I would seriously doubt the profitability of either of these routes simply because of the high fixed costs of running a station outweighing any return
Thanks again for this wonderful analysis |
You're welcome!
1. Yes, there's a lot of rights to Indian carriers available on a platter, but no one's using it.
2. I find 6E's strategy a bit odd. The GCC ought to see more expansion from LCCs in India (which is basically high volume, low yielding, economy flying pax), yet not a single movement apart from UAE & Oman.
iflytb20 wrote: |
IX never had staff based in AAN or SLL. For the AAN flight the staff used to drive down from AUH and SLL was covered by the MCT staff. The counters were maned by the local handling agency staff with the senior IX staff overseeing everything. That's how IX tried to keep the overheads down.
PS: things may have changed since jan 13. I don't have updated information post that date
@abhijith
Sorry to hijack your thread. You have done a fantastic job with the seat analysis |
Very interesting. I never knew that! Thanks for sharing.
And please don't worry about 'hijacking' my thread. We can all colloborate and learn!
Nimish wrote: | Excellent job with the analysis!
Given the ME3 are doing a lot of transit traffic, it implies that in O&D terms - probably more goes on Indian carriers! |
Thanks sir!
That was my original intent of this post. There was a lot of mystery on the number of seats deployed. At least, now I can clear this out!
Also, when we have new additions in flights, I will update this thread along with it!
Spiderguy252 wrote: | Top analysis.
Can you elaborate on AI's DEL-BAH-AUH flight? Is it a triangular return (DEL-BAH-AUH-DEL) or does it stopover at BAH again? |
Thanks Varun!
Apologies for not making this clear in the first place. It is a triangular flight operates DEL-BAH-AUH-DEL. Seems to do well as far as loads are concerned. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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Very good review. So the Indian carriers are fairly competitive with the ME carriers on the Middle East area especially to UAE and Oman.
Could you do a similar analysis for SE Asia - SIN, KUL and BKK. It will be interesting to know how Indian carriers fare in this area. |
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iah87 wrote: | Very good review. So the Indian carriers are fairly competitive with the ME carriers on the Middle East area especially to UAE and Oman.
Could you do a similar analysis for SE Asia - SIN, KUL and BKK. It will be interesting to know how Indian carriers fare in this area. |
Thank you sir!
I would, but I'm afraid. Afraid of showing our Indian carriers incompetency on the eastern side. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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Great analysis Abhijeeth!
Been following this for a while..
Makes me wonder..while Indian carriers may be competitive on the ME routes, UL are kinda eating our carriers alive on the India-CMB routes....except BOM perhaps, now that there is a second daily operated by 9W starting soon!
Regards
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jbalonso777 wrote: | Great analysis Abhijeeth!
Been following this for a while..
Makes me wonder..while Indian carriers may be competitive on the ME routes, UL are kinda eating our carriers alive on the India-CMB routes....except BOM perhaps, now that there is a second daily operated by 9W starting soon!
Regards
Jish |
Thanks man. There's a follow up analysis on the India-Gulf Market. Stay tuned! _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 wrote: | jbalonso777 wrote: | Great analysis Abhijeeth!
Been following this for a while..
Makes me wonder..while Indian carriers may be competitive on the ME routes, UL are kinda eating our carriers alive on the India-CMB routes....except BOM perhaps, now that there is a second daily operated by 9W starting soon!
Regards
Jish |
Thanks man. There's a follow up analysis on the India-Gulf Market. Stay tuned! |
Waiting for it.. stunning work, thanks..
Btw, will it be possible to pull out stats on the top five or top 10 western cities Indians fly via Dubai? It will also be interesting to see, say how many Indians fly the Sao Paulo flights of EK and EY.. |
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bangalore wrote: |
Waiting for it.. stunning work, thanks..
Btw, will it be possible to pull out stats on the top five or top 10 western cities Indians fly via Dubai? It will also be interesting to see, say how many Indians fly the Sao Paulo flights of EK and EY.. |
Thank you, sir! Love your tireless tirades on SSC
Unfortunately sir, that part of info is unaccessible to me, since I don't work for the aviation industry (but there is an EK employee watching this forum ). _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 Member
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blrsea wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | * THE MIDDLE EAST BIG 3 *
VI. Emirates
b. Bengaluru
7 weekly DXB-BLR (B772)
7 weekly DXB-BLR (B77W)
7 weekly DXB-BLR (B77L)
Total seats: - 7 * 290 + 7 * 266 + 7 * 360 = 6,412 seats per week
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In total, the Middle East Big 3 (EK,EY,QR) fly 409 times a week, carrying 102,497 seats per week |
The numbers for BLR are wrong. EK has 14 weekly flights to BLR, not 21. It substitutes B77W once or twice a week with B772. A332 is the regular daily service timed with US bank of flights. I don't think B77L (B777-200LR) is used on the DXB-BLR sectory. Its either 772 or 77W. |
Check again, sir. EK does fly thrice daily. It was always thrice daily, not twice (EK564/566/568). And the equipment changes are due from Winter 2014. Many points in India are seeing the A330 phase out, i.e - BOM/BLR/COK/HYD/MAA/DEL. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 wrote: | bangalore wrote: |
Waiting for it.. stunning work, thanks..
Btw, will it be possible to pull out stats on the top five or top 10 western cities Indians fly via Dubai? It will also be interesting to see, say how many Indians fly the Sao Paulo flights of EK and EY.. |
Thank you, sir! Love your tireless tirades on SSC
Unfortunately sir, that part of info is unaccessible to me, since I don't work for the aviation industry (but there is an EK employee watching this forum ). |
Thank you Abhijit for your relentless support; its a great relief when human virtues are displayed in internet forums, though not in abundance; its a place where people unleash the worst in them!!
Btw, AMD - LHR stats will be an amazing piece of info to get |
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abhijith16 wrote: | blrsea wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | * THE MIDDLE EAST BIG 3 *
VI. Emirates
b. Bengaluru
7 weekly DXB-BLR (B772)
7 weekly DXB-BLR (B77W)
7 weekly DXB-BLR (B77L)
Total seats: - 7 * 290 + 7 * 266 + 7 * 360 = 6,412 seats per week
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In total, the Middle East Big 3 (EK,EY,QR) fly 409 times a week, carrying 102,497 seats per week |
The numbers for BLR are wrong. EK has 14 weekly flights to BLR, not 21. It substitutes B77W once or twice a week with B772. A332 is the regular daily service timed with US bank of flights. I don't think B77L (B777-200LR) is used on the DXB-BLR sectory. Its either 772 or 77W. |
Check again, sir. EK does fly thrice daily. It was always thrice daily, not twice (EK564/566/568). And the equipment changes are due from Winter 2014. Many points in India are seeing the A330 phase out, i.e - BOM/BLR/COK/HYD/MAA/DEL. |
One flight was temporarily withdrawn in between for a couple of months for DXB runway repairs.. It has since been reinstated. |
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Okay,
So now, I would be finding the distribution of all capacity deployed between the two markets among Indian cities. They would be done in order of highest capacity deployed to lowest.
1. Mumbai
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 32,978 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 34,018 seats per week
Total seats: - 66,996 seats per week
Destinations served out of BOM: - AUH, BAH, DMM, DOH, DXB, JED, KWI, MCT, MED, RUH, SHJ.
Airlines serving: - AI, 9W, IX, 6E, SG, KU, GF, SV, EK, EY, QR, WY, FZ, G9
2. New Delhi
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 16,550 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 29,666 seats per week
Total seats: - 46,216 seats per week
Destinations served out of DEL: - AUH, BAH, DMM, DOH, DXB, JED, KWI, MCT, MED, RUH, SHJ.
Airlines serving: - AI, 9W, 6E, SG, KU, GF, SV, EK, EY, QR, FZ, G9, WY
3. Kochi
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 18,010 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 20,022 seats per week
Total seats: - 38,032 seats per week
Destinations served out of COK: - AUH, BAH, DMM, DOH, DXB, JED, KWI, MCT, RUH, SHJ. SLL
Airlines serving: - AI, IX, 9W, SG, 6E, KU, GF, SV, EK, EY, QR, FZ, G9, WY
4. Kozhikode
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 15,738 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 12,575 seats per week
Total seats: - 28,312 seats per week
Destinations served out of CCJ: - AAN, AUH, BAH, DMM, DOH, DXB, JED, KWI, MCT, RUH, SHJ. SLL
Airlines serving: - AI, IX, 9W, 6E, SV, EK, EY, QR, G9, WY
5. Chennai
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 6,678 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 20,734 seats per week
Total seats: - 27,412 seats per week
Destinations served out of MAA: - AUH, BAH, DMM, DOH, DXB, JED, KWI, MCT, RUH, SHJ.
Airlines serving: - AI, 9W, 6E, KU, GF, SV, EK, EY, QR, G9, WY, FZ
6. Hyderabad
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 5,378 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 18,359 seats per week
Total seats: - 23,737 seats per week
Destinations served out of HYD: - AUH, BAH, DMM, DOH, DXB, JED, KWI, MCT, RUH, SHJ
Airlines serving: - AI, 9W, 6E, SV, EK, EY, QR, FZ, G9, WY, GF
7. Thiruvananthapuram
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 10,544 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 12,602 seats per week
Total seats: - 23,146 seats per week
Destinations served out of TRV: - AUH, BAH, DMM, DOH, DXB, KWI, MCT, RUH, SHJ. SLL
Airlines serving: - AI, IX, 9W, 6E, KU, GF, EK, EY, QR, FZ, G9, WY
8. Bengaluru
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 3,290 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 14,171 seats per week
Total seats: - 17,461 seats per week
Destinations served out of BLR: - AUH, DMM, DOH, DXB, JED, KWI, MCT, RUH, SHJ
Airlines serving: - AI, 9W, 6E, SV, EK, EY, QR, G9, WY, KU
9. Ahmedabad
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 5,148 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 7,551 seats per week
Total seats: - 12,699 seats per week
Destinations served out of AMD: - AUH, DOH, DXB, KWI, MCT, SHJ
Airlines serving: - AI, 9W, EK, EY, QR, G9, FZ, SG, KU
10. Mangalore
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 7,736 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 0 seats per week
Total seats: - 7,736 seats per week
Destinations served out of IXE: - AUH, BAH, DMM, DOH, DXB, KWI, MCT
Airlines serving: - IX, 9W
11. Lucknow
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 2,478 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 3,104 seats per week
Total seats: - 5,582 seats per week
Destinations served out of LKO: - AUH, DMM, DXB, JED, MCT, RUH
Airlines serving: - IX, 9W, FZ, SV, WY
12. Kolkata
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 0 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 5,546 seats per week
Total seats: - 5,546 seats per week
Destinations served out of CCU: - AUH, DOH, DXB
Airlines serving: - QR, EY, EK
13. Goa
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 2,360 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 2,673 seats per week
Total seats: - 5,033 seats per week
Destinations served out of GOI: - AUH, DOH, DXB, KWI, SHJ, MCT
Airlines serving: - AI, 9W, G9, WY, QR
14. Jaipur
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 744 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 3,178 seats per week
Total seats: - 3,922 seats per week
Destinations served out of JAI: - AUH, DXB, SHJ, MCT
Airlines serving: - IX, EY, G9, WY
15. Amritsar
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 1,302 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 1,239 seats per week
Total seats: - 2,541 seats per week
Destinations served out of ATQ: - DOH, DXB
Airlines serving: - IX, QR
16. Pune
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 2,478 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 0 seats per week
Total seats: - 2,478 seats per week
Destinations served out of PNQ: - AUH, DXB, SHJ
Airlines serving: - IX, 9W, SG
17. Tiruchirappalli
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 1,302 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 0 seats per week
Total seats: - 1,302 seats per week
Destinations served out of TRZ: - DXB
Airlines serving: - IX
17. Madurai
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 1,302 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 0 seats per week
Total seats: - 1,302 seats per week
Destinations served out of IXM: - DXB
Airlines serving: - SG
18. Visakhapatnam
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 1,190 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 0 seats per week
Total seats: - 1,190 seats per week
Destinations served out of VTZ: - DXB
Airlines serving: - AI
19. Coimbatore
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 0 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 810 seats per week
Total seats: - 810 seats per week
Destinations served out of CJB: - SHJ
Airlines serving: - G9
20. Nagpur
Total number of seats deployed by Indian carriers: - 0 seats per week.
Total number of seats deployed by Foreign carriers: - 486 seats per week
Total seats: - 486 seats per week
Destinations served out of NAG: - SHJ
Airlines serving: - G9
Conclusions: -
a) Mumbai accounts for a fifth of the capacity deployed to the Gulf Region, thanks to 9W and EK. AI and IX are absolutely dismal here with only a few destinations here.
b) Kerala region also garners three-tenths of the capacity, which is significant (90k + seats). However, Foreign carriers lead a slim majority over seats, despite IX's huge presence in the region.
c) The gap between foreign carriers in the lead and Indian carriers is huge in DEL/MAA/HYD/BLR. While BLR is not surprising, the Indian carriers attention in DEL and MAA speaks volumes of the lack of strategy.
d) In places like CCU, NAG, CJB, Foreign carriers serve the market comfortably with no opposition. Vice-versa, places like IXE, PNQ, TRZ, IXM, VTZ ,see Indian carriers serving with no opposition from foreign carriers.
e) Clearly, AI + IX dominate in the Kerala region, while 9W's stronghold lies in Mumbai.
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sumantra Member
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abhijith16 wrote: | Please debate, discuss, suggest, comment and critique! | Superb mathematical analysis, and the 5-point conclusion. An eye-opener for armchair enthusiasts like Yours Truly. Thank you for the time and effort, as always!
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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basheer1211 Member
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No foreign carriers in IXE is bit surprising. Is IXE not included as point of call? At least G9 or FZ.... When they serve LKO/JAI/NAG/CJB why not IXE?? |
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iah87 Member
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HYD numbers do not seem to add up correctly. If the base numbers are correct, then it should 21,181, behind Trivandrum.
No Indian carrier wants to serve CCU to Middle East !! |
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