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http://www.aninews.in/newsdetail2/story183155/praful-patel-forced-air-india-board-to-buy-40-extra-planes-says-former-cag.html

Praful Patel forced Air India board to buy 40 extra planes, says former CAG



http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/praful-patel-rubbishes-vinod-rais-claims-of-nudging-air-india-for-aircraft-purchase/articleshow/42384080.cms

Praful Patel rubbishes Vinod Rai's claims of nudging Air India for aircraft purchase

13 Sep, 2014

Former Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel tonight trashed claims made by former Comptroller and Auditor General Vinod Rai that he had nudged Air India to go in for largescale purchase of aircraft.

"I rubbish the claims made by Vinod Rai. A former bureaucrat, Rai should know the rules of business of government. Decisions of such nature can only be taken after clearance of the Project Investment Board and approval of the Union Cabinet," he told PTI.

Refuting the charge, Patel said, "In this case, Air India Board took the decision and it was the Empowered Group of Ministers headed by P Chidambaram which decided on the number of aircraft (to be purchased) and this was approved by the Union Cabinet."

Patel said Rai should be made aware that he had ceased to be the Civil Aviation Minister in January, 2011 and that the auditor had submitted his report some six months later.

"The question of anyone going to him (Rai) and talking to him or his officers at my behest from the Civil Aviation ministry itself contradicts his claims and I don't wish to join issue with people like him," he said.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip to KNO, Indonesia with AI/MI/SQ via SIN Reply with quote

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Will AI through checkin my luggage all the way to KNO from GAU?
They should, Dr. Piruthivi. I've seen this from the smaller stations on the network. You may get the boarding passes for all legs at GAU as well.
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Have two 11 hrs layovers in Changi! Hope it will entertain me..
Enough time to finish two TRs as well, Sir. Here's hoping for that!
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Visa fiasco: Air India crew spend 18 hours in Russian detention


NEW DELHI: The cabin crew of Air India's Delhi-Moscow flight had to cool their heels in detention at Domodedovo Airport on Saturday for close to 18 hours before being allowed to enter the city.

The air hostesses had been granted Russian visas effective Sunday but the airline sent them a day before, without checking the basic detail of their travel documents.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Visa-fiasco-Air-India-crew-spend-18-hours-in-Russian-detention/articleshow/42400524.cms

and one would think that an airline with so many years of experience with crew visa issues wouldn't goof up on something so simple Laughing
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Kochi/Air-India-Express-to-start-7-new-Gulf-flights/articleshow/42453591.cms

Air India Express to start 7 new Gulf flights

Sep 14, 2014

Air India Express (AIE) will introduce seven new flights to the Gulf countries from Trivandrum, Cochin, Calicut and Mangalore airports. From October 26, the airline will introduce an additional weekly flight each from Trivandrum and Cochin to Muscat, two direct flights from Calicut to Doha and three weekly flights on the Mangalore-Bahrain-Kuwait route.

Shyam Sundar, chief executive officer of Air India Charters Ltd, which manages AIE, said this was made possible by augmenting the aircraft utilization period from 9.5 hours to 10.5 hours per day in the new schedule.

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Air India may send pilots to fill shortfall in Express service

Air India may send pilots to fill shortfall in Express service

Sep 14 2014.

Air India Ltd’s board has cleared a proposal to send its pilots on deputation to its budget arm, Air India Express, which has been facing shortage of commanders for some time now, people close to the matter said on Sunday.

The move would help Air India, which may face a surplus of pilots as the airline’s Boeing 777-200 LR fleet is being phased out and shrinking, the people said.

Air India earlier used to send its pilots on deputation to Air India Express (AIE), but stopped the practice after a two-month strike by pilots in May-June 2012.

“The board recently approved the proposal, paving the way for AI (Air India) pilots to join AIE,” a person with knowledge of the matter said in Mumbai.

AIE’s has had a shortage of pilots for a long time, which has led to at least three or four of its 17 aircraft always remaining on ground, the people mentioned earlier said.

Besides which, Air India and AIE top brass were keen to have in-house talent as a cheaper option rather than going to the market to meet the shortage.

“The idea was mooted several times with the airline management but did not find favour primarily due to the two-month strike by the pilots owing allegiance to the now de-recognized Indian Pilots Guild,” the people said.

Air India has already sold five of its eight Boeing 777-200 LRs to Abu Dhabi-based Etihad Airways and has floated tenders to sell the remaining ones.

“The phasing out of these planes is leaving surplus pilots with the carrier who will now be adjusted in AIE. Besides, it will also help Air India pilots in getting command positions earlier than in the parent company. So, the move will benefit Air India and AIE as also the pilots,” the people said.

AIE will require around 50 more pilots to operate its entire fleet of 17 aircraft, the people said, adding that it will be better since the airline was planning to induct eight more Boeing 737-800s in the fleet to get back to the original size of 26 aircraft.

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Visa fiasco: Air India crew spend 18 hours in Russian detention


NEW DELHI: The cabin crew of Air India's Delhi-Moscow flight had to cool their heels in detention at Domodedovo Airport on Saturday for close to 18 hours before being allowed to enter the city.

The air hostesses had been granted Russian visas effective Sunday but the airline sent them a day before, without checking the basic detail of their travel documents.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Visa-fiasco-Air-India-crew-spend-18-hours-in-Russian-detention/articleshow/42400524.cms

and one would think that an airline with so many years of experience with crew visa issues wouldn't goof up on something so simple Laughing


Airlines do make mistakes. The Russian immigration authorities could have been more considerate and issue a transit or short term visa, knowing that the FA's will not run away at Moscow, and with a warning. Russia is no different than France which refused visas to Indian citizen passengers facing an involuntary overnight transit at CDG.
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Air India is looking to charter wide bodied aircraft with seating capacity of 240 seats in all economy configuration for Hajj 2014.

http://mmd.airindia.co.in/aimmd/tender/HAJ%202014%20TENDER%20-%20Phase%20II.doc


Apparently (at least) some 767s will be doing the rounds this year - not yet sure of the ACMI operator.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Airlines do make mistakes. The Russian immigration authorities could have been more considerate and issue a transit or short term visa, knowing that the FA's will not run away at Moscow, and with a warning. Russia is no different than France which refused visas to Indian citizen passengers facing an involuntary overnight transit at CDG.


I'm sure even the Indian immigration authorities, or those in any other country, would't salute and allow foreign flight crews with improper visas immediate entry upon arrival, no matter how benign they may be.


Given the number of international flights AI makes every day, arranging proper visas for crew must be something that must be routine and be incorporated into the daily planning. It cannot be allowed to go wrong. No other respectable airline allows it to.

If it does, then the unfortunate crew must face the consequences. Procedures to deal with improper visas can be very varied and complicated, depending on the country.

And blaming the Russians for their lack of consideration while waving off AI's goof up as 'hota hai' is a typical symptom of a certain mindset that is primarily responsible for India and AI being the laughing stock of the aviation world.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip to KNO, Indonesia with AI/MI/SQ via SIN Reply with quote

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Thanks Sumantra Sir.
Will try to do a TR this time-since I'm traveling alone-rather than with my infant son!

Any idea about Indonesia Visa?
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iah87 wrote:

Airlines do make mistakes. The Russian immigration authorities could have been more considerate and issue a transit or short term visa, knowing that the FA's will not run away at Moscow, and with a warning. Russia is no different than France which refused visas to Indian citizen passengers facing an involuntary overnight transit at CDG.


I'm sure even the Indian immigration authorities, or those in any other country, would't salute and allow foreign flight crews with improper visas immediate entry upon arrival, no matter how benign they may be.


Given the number of international flights AI makes every day, arranging proper visas for crew must be something that must be routine and be incorporated into the daily planning. It cannot be allowed to go wrong. No other respectable airline allows it to.

If it does, then the unfortunate crew must face the consequences. Procedures to deal with improper visas can be very varied and complicated, depending on the country.

And blaming the Russians for their lack of consideration while waving off AI's goof up as 'hota hai' is a typical symptom of a certain mindset that is primarily responsible for India and AI being the laughing stock of the aviation world.


Crew do not operate flights on Visas for every country they fly to . They travel on a Document called General Declaration which is signed by the Captain on behalf of the airline.

Along with that some countries require additional document like India for example expect foreign crews to fill up a Temporary Landing Permit and a Baggage Declaration but No need of a Visa .

The only country i know of which requires crew to have a Visa is the US .

So i really don't know what this is all about . I have friends who operate to Moscow and work for Middle Eastern Airlines and they don't have a Russian Visa .

So before we know what clearly happened and Air India or the Russian Authorities explain what the crux of the problem was , there is no point in blaming anyone .
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air India is looking to charter wide bodied aircraft with seating capacity of 240 seats in all economy configuration for Hajj 2014.

http://mmd.airindia.co.in/aimmd/tender/HAJ%202014%20TENDER%20-%20Phase%20II.doc


Apparently (at least) some 767s will be doing the rounds this year - not yet sure of the ACMI operator.


http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/31062-air-india-leasing-two-thai-b767s-for-hajj-charters

Air India leasing two Thai B767s for Hajj charters

Air India has wet-leased two B767-200(ER)s, HS-JAE (msn 24324) and HS-JAF (msn 24325), from Thailand's Jet Asia Airways for use on Hajj charter flights ch-aviation can exclusively reveal.

The aircraft join two others, N253MY (msn 23974) and N770JM (msn 24145), on lease from US-based carrier, Dynamic Airways.

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Along with that some countries require additional document like India for example expect foreign crews to fill up a Temporary Landing Permit and a Baggage Declaration but No need of a Visa .

The only country i know of which requires crew to have a Visa is the US .

I was thinking the same thing. I never needed a visa to fly into Russia- no one did. Their immigration is a pain in the butt, kinda like India but that's a separate thing Rolling Eyes

Maybe it's a temp thing or something like you mentioned? When we started flying to Poland initially there was a restriction our company had which required crew to have a Schengen visa if im not mistaken .... don't know if that was a company or country issue.
Most countries don't require crew to have visas. As airbus340 mentioned Amrica is the only one I can think of. A few countries need an authorisation of some sort but the airline does that online I believe?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip to KNO, Indonesia with AI/MI/SQ via SIN Reply with quote

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Will try to do a TR this time-since I'm traveling alone-rather than with my infant son. Any idea about Indonesia Visa?
Look forward to the TR, sir. Sorry, no idea about the Indonesian visa though my name is spelt quite close to one of the prominent Indonesian islands!)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip to KNO, Indonesia with AI/MI/SQ via SIN Reply with quote

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http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/air-india-to-axe-more-loss-making-routes-114091500866_1.html

Air India to axe more loss-making routes

September 15, 2014

Air India (AI) aims to substantially cut the number of routes not meeting variable costs, to reduce these to 19% of its overall network by the end of the current financial year.

The carrier, which operates about 480 daily flights in the international and domestic sectors, had brought down the number of routes not meeting variable costs to 38% of its network by the end of 2013-14, from 60%.

A senior official said, "We have completely withdrawn flights not meeting ATF (aviation turbine fuel) costs. While there would be flights in which we would not be able to generate operational profits, we are looking at meeting cash costs on 81% of our network by the end of this financial year."

Chairman and Managing Director Rohit Nandan is daily monitoring the route economics. The analysis is also being done at the board of directors every week.

AI registers variable cost losses on 19 routes, six of which are international ones. The domestic ones include Mumbai-Kolkata and Delhi-Bangalore; the international ones include Delhi-Sydney and Delhi-Milan.

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Interesting - esp. in light of BLR-DEL getting the axe. If 6E can run 7-8 daily non-stops, 9W 7 daily, surprising to hear that AI is struggling to run 4 daily flights. Even stranger is the decision to upgauge the night flight to a 788 if these flights are not earning their keep.
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Interesting - esp. in light of BLR-DEL getting the axe. If 6E can run 7-8 daily non-stops, 9W 7 daily, surprising to hear that AI is struggling to run 4 daily flights. Even stranger is the decision to upgauge the night flight to a 788 if these flights are not earning their keep.
I'm also surprised on this one. This is one sector which AI have been very flexible on, with capacity and the frequencies. They have also clubbed the morning flight with the Chennai one AI 439 when they have used the A332 on lighter load days. The AI 403/404 combination is one of AI's oldest routes, which sees good patronisation. AI have used everything on the route in proportion with the loads, in the past 7 years or so: A319/A320/A321/A332/B788. The two middle frequencies of the day could get the boot if it does not work well for AI (one of them connects well from the MLE international flight: and is often delayed, in case the incoming MLE flight gets delayed). I doubt if AI will cut the morning and the evening pairs: there is too much lucrative Govt traffic between these points.
CCU-BOM is a different kettle of fish altogether. 6E has taken over CCU, so to say. In the pre-6E days, the IC 273/4 was a popular evening flight both ways.
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More 787s joining their older, big brother 777s on the tarmac for a bakefest.
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More 787s joining their older, big brother 777s on the tarmac for a bakefest.
Not right now, Sanjay. The Dream)liner utilisation is not too bad, in spite of the frequent niggles on the type world-wide. Second, the utilisation of the B77Ws is not too bad, and in spite of the recent incidents, AI were able to manage the schedule quite well, due to the intentional slack. The B77Ls are busy subbing for the Dream)liners on some routes, while `Maharashtra' gets back into shape, for the 3-plane dry lease to EY. The bake-fest is really on the B744s. AI's shoddy reputation in the premium classes ensures AI losing money on operating these beautifully refurbished birds, so not operating these would mean losing less, and the logic holds well for the B77Ls as well. Things looking up with Team Nandan are possibly the silver lining on the cloud, and things seem to be getting better - at least, that is what I see on the ground. The *A membership has had visibly better results: service and loads, for instance, and all this bodes well for the struggling carrier.
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So I find time at work to do this. The routes wasnt a surprise for me. Of the profitability details I know, G8 and SG struggle a lot on DEL-BLR sectors and have periodically reduced services. At one point, G8 had only one daily each way - currently it is two. So was the case with SG when it pulled out these sectors when the aircraft went to Europe on wet lease. 6E makes it work on scale and so does 9W - scale + business traffic.

Looks like AI does not get business traffic on this sector and hence survival is an issue. It is a very long flight. For the same reason I wondered how I5 & 6E are going to make BLR-IXC work.

An even bigger problem is BOM-CCU, where the traffic is much lesser than DEL-BLR.

If AI does not have a plan for the Dreamliners - the 27 of them are not going to go anywhere, they cannot be adding and removing stations for the n-th time now
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^^ Perhaps the lack of business traffic is hurting AI the most on the DEL-BLR sector - most business travelers prefer even 6E over AI - the main reason being consistency and OTP.
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http://www.livemint.com/Companies/VbDZ5j0cykzCGrTxTNoESL/Air-India-in-600-mn-deal-for-sale-and-leaseback-of-five-Dre.html

Air India in $600 mn deal for sale and leaseback of five Dreamliners

Germany’s Deutsche Bank will buy four planes while UK’s Investec will buy one, helping the carrier generate more revenue


Sep 16 2014

Air India Ltd, which has a debt of Rs.40,000 crore, has struck a deal with German lender Deutsche Bank AG and the UK’s Investec Bank for selling and leasing back five Boeing B787 Dreamliner planes in a $600 million deal.

According to two Air India executives, who asked not to be identified, Deutsche Bank will buy four planes while Investec will buy one.


Air India is also leasing at least 30 planes to compete with domestic and international rivals.

The state-owned airline has leased five Airbus A320 planes from China Aircraft Leasing Group Holdings Ltd for domestic operations with a single-class configuration, said the first Air India executive. China Aircraft Leasing did not reply to emails seeking comment. Air India has plans to bring in another 17 Airbus A320 aircraft to boost its domestic operations.

The executive said the airline has also leased two small ATR-72 planes from a UK firm and three such planes from General Electric Co.’s aircraft leasing unit. These five small planes would used for Alliance Air, the regional airline unit of Air India.

“We are also looking at leasing seven Boeing 737 planes for our international budget airline Air India Express. All these planes would be single-class economy configuration to compete with low-fare airlines of India and abroad,” the second executive said.

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My hotel doesnt allow me to post on A-I Sad

AI as in `Air India', or `Airliners-India'? Wink
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If AI does not have a plan for the Dreamliners - the 27 of them are not going to go anywhere, they cannot be adding and removing stations for the n-th time now
Right now, the Dream)liner plans for any airline are a bit scattered, owing to the glitches,and fire-fighting is the need of the day. Right now, AI's Dream)liner utilisation is not too bad. How things will evolve in the future when more of them will arrive, is something Team Nandan would have looked at. AI has been very cautious on the international expansion part, and many routes have been delayed till they have enough Dream)liner backup for the technical glitches.

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The state-owned airline has leased five Airbus A320 planes from China Aircraft Leasing Group Holdings Ltd for domestic operations with a single-class configuration, said the first Air India executive....
The executive said the airline has also leased two small ATR-72 planes from a UK firm and three such planes from General Electric Co.’s aircraft leasing unit.
This is possibly the first concrete piece of good news on the AT7s at least. I hope more planes come in for both, right now, in addition to the `plans' for leasing 7 B738s for AIX.

Nimish wrote:
...most business travelers prefer even 6E over AI - the main reason being consistency and OTP.
6E has carved a niche for itself with its capacity, route planning, and grand OTP, and many companies are looking at business travel with 6E. 6E is also possibly the only airline in India overall making money, and planning well, in the current scenario. If only they could get their food act together, it would be a wholesome choice for business travellers.

Ameya: I doubt if the AI morning and evening flights on the DEL-BLR sectors will be pulled any time soon. At last the evening AI 403-AI 404 rotation. This legacy flight typically has a lot of Government traffic, typically from the huge defence establishments in and around Bengaluru.

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More 787s joining their older, big brother 777s on the tarmac for a bakefest.
Not right now, Sanjay. The Dream)liner utilisation is not too bad, in spite of the frequent niggles on the type world-wide. Second, the utilisation of the B77Ws is not too bad, and in spite of the recent incidents, AI were able to manage the schedule quite well, due to the intentional slack. The B77Ls are busy subbing for the Dream)liners on some routes, while `Maharashtra' gets back into shape, for the 3-plane dry lease to EY. The bake-fest is really on the B744s. AI's shoddy reputation in the premium classes ensures AI losing money on operating these beautifully refurbished birds, so not operating these would mean losing less, and the logic holds well for the B77Ls as well. Things looking up with Team Nandan are possibly the silver lining on the cloud, and things seem to be getting better - at least, that is what I see on the ground. The *A membership has had visibly better results: service and loads, for instance, and all this bodes well for the struggling carrier.
Cheers, Sumantra.


Yes, but if they decide to cut DEL-Oz and DEL-Italy, that means 3 787s doing "hava khao" on land.

And you're right that it's AI's reputation for not having a competitive premium cabin that's hurting it's ability to fill the pointy end of the AC. But then again, when the entire MoCA has to be involved in sourcing wine glasses (while making money on the side) even as the poor cabin crew are forced to sheepishly pour wine into plastic classes for J pax, what do you expect?
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Yes, but if they decide to cut DEL-Oz and DEL-Italy, that means 3 787s doing "hava khao" on land.
Not quite, Sanjay: even in the initial days, they were putting Dream)liners on the longer domestic route with large demand. The DEL-CCU route was getting three out of four in the peak season, per day. AI are keeping a slack intentionally, due to the glitches every now and then, and are being bullish on new international routes. AI may not cut DEL-Oz and DEL-Italy that easily: one needs time for a route to develop (though AI, and Indian taxpayers can ill-afford too much of this!). Even after the *A entry, the premium passengers are still sticking to SQ and TG, and for good reason, too. As you rightly put it, below.
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And you're right that it's AI's reputation for not having a competitive premium cabin that's hurting it's ability to fill the pointy end of the AC... the poor cabin crew are forced to sheepishly pour wine into plastic classes for J pax, what do you expect?
I did a J class AI 101 BOM-DEL trip on...an A332, and while the meal was stupendous in terms of the quality and the quantity of the food, there were still grey areas in the presentation. I am not a seasoned J traveller like you, and many others on this forum: this is my only second ever use of an upgrade coupon for the Silver Edge club. However, I have studied quite a few J class TRs on A.net to know what to expect, in terms of the presentation, however good the quality and quantity of the food may be. I am glad to say that the presentation was a bit better than some others I have seen prior to AI's *A entry. However, it still left much to be desired. We got a great set of crew however, and their spontaneity and from-the-heart service on AI's good days, is what one likes best about AI.
Sanjay, seeing Team Nandan's efforts on the ground (I possibly patronise AI more than anyone else on this forum), while the airline may bleed the Indian taxpayers' pockets for many decades to come, I still see a sliver of hope for the airline. After JRD's golden era, and Sunil Arora's brief spring at IC, this is perhaps the best overall team at the helm. And thankfully, there are still some excellent people in AI who make it all worth it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DEL-Italy was never going to be high yielding.

The high yielding traffic between India and Italy is all between the business and fashion hubs of the two countries, BOM and MXP. Nowhere else.

A good idea would be to route the flight as DEL-BOM-MXP. FCO can be dropped as it is merely a low yielding tourist spot.

By the way, which are the other loss making international flights, besides Italy and Australia? My guesses

DEL-DME
DEL-HKG-ICN/KIX (Particularly the HKG-ICN/KIX segment)
ATQ-DEL-BHX (This should be the mother of all loss makers, if not the father)
DEL-FRA (This can be improved if they change the timings to offer more connections on LH from FRA).

Possibly also the 744 flights to JED from CCJ and HYD. The F and J classes go empty on these sectors.
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DEL-DME
Too early to say, but I think AI have the right aircraft type, the Dream)liner, and the right hubbing times at DEL, to make this work, and give SU strong competition. SU use a good aircraft type on the leg, AI use one better.
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DEL-HKG-ICN/KIX (Particularly the HKG-ICN/KIX segment)
Now, they have the aircraft type to make it work. The Dream)liner, again. I have some circumstantial evidence on this leg as well, when the B77Ls and the B77Ws were operating. The B77Ls lost money heavily on this route, and the B77Ws, though the Economy loads have been quite good.
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ATQ-DEL-BHX (This should be the mother of all loss makers, if not the father)
This was the big surprise. A political move to force AI into the route, but the Dream)liner's economics saved the day. This route is not doing too badly. The initial days saw some great returns as well. I am not very sure about the current standing. Sir, you perhaps forgot your own query on the related thread (Rishul's lovely TR), and Ojas's definitive answer.
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yes sir, you forgot the Kabootar express ATQ-DEL-BHX;-)How is that doing, with respect to loads/yields?

avbuff wrote:
The DEL - BHX flight is doing pretty well, with much decent yields than one expected. 4 weekly flights, lower operating costs of B787s and right configuration is making it work for AI.


The_Goat wrote:
DEL-FRA (This can be improved if they change the timings to offer more connections on LH from FRA).
The timings suit the DEL hub incredibly well. This is a long-standing AI bread-and-butter route, and the Dream)liner makes it worth whatever it is.
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Possibly also the 744 flights to JED from CCJ and HYD. The F and J classes go empty on these sectors.
You forgot the cargo part. This is one of the very few sectors on which the B744s are operated. AI have preferred to have the B77Ls and B744s sun-bathe at BOM rather than put them on big loss-making routes. Currently, the two operational B77Ls are sub'bing well for the Dream)liner glitches (but obviously losing money, given the absence of consistent F and J demand, and AI's poor reputation in the premium classes.
Sir, you may not have read my long and detailed analysis on some aspects of AI wide-body operations in the rejoinder to Rishul's lovely TR:
Mumbai's Spectacular New T2 + AI 332/77W
http://www.airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/airlinersindia-ftopic13703.html
Please check it out, Sir.
Cheers, Sumantra.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt AI will withdraw flights on the metro sector. What would help is rationalizing flights on the LKO-DED, IXD,KNU sectors - either get it right in terms of frequency or aircraft type or just do away with these flights. There is ample majority now to not listen to the local MP
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/AIE-achieves-marginal-increase-in-capacity-despite-reduction-in-fleet-size/articleshow/42736015.cms

AIE achieves marginal increase in capacity despite reduction in fleet size

Sep 17, 2014

Despite a reduction in Air India Express' fleet size by four aircraft units during the current fiscal owing to return of leased aircraft, airline managed to achieve marginal increase in capacity offered by it in terms of available seat kilometres (ASK) through more intensive utilization of its aircraft resources.

Significantly, AIE's passenger load factor grew by 3.4% over previous fiscal going up from 81.7% achieved during April - August 2013 to 84.1% during the corresponding period in the current fiscal.

Consequently, AI Express recorded 4% growth in revenue passenger kilometers (RPK), the unit of measurement of capacity utilization, against an increase of 1% increase in the ASK produced during the period April - August 2014. The growth in RPK coupled with increase in unit yields resulting in the airline recording a 19% increase in passenger revenues during the period. Based on revenue performance recorded during the above period, AIE is well on its way to exceed the targeted revenues projected for the current fiscal which is Rs 2,400 crore.

AI Express has carried over 1.2 million passengers during this period and well on its way to exceed the passenger carriage target of 2.4 million for the fiscal year. The two main factors that have contributed to airline's excellent performance have been - high schedule reliability of over 99% and improvement in on-time performance. In fact, the on-time performance of the flights operated out of the stations in Kerala has been over 90% during this period.

Other product/service enhancements implemented in the current fiscal are the launch of a 24x7 dedicated multi lingual call centre service to improve accessibility to its services and the optional facility for passengers to pre-reserve seats of their choice on the Airline's flights.

The airline is one of few low cost carriers in the world to offer free hot food service which has been well received by travelling public. In order to upgrade this value addition, its catering department will hold food presentations across the various markets throughout India and uplift food which caters to the local palette.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Mangalore/Air-India-Express-reintroduces-Mangalore-Kuwait-link-via-Bahrain-in-its-winter-schedule/articleshow/42735905.cms

Air India Express reintroduces Mangalore-Kuwait link via Bahrain in its winter schedule

Sep 17, 2014


Air India Express plans to reintroduce the link between Mangalore and Kuwait in the winter schedule starting from October 26. AI Express has planned to further increase the utilization of its aircraft and consequently operate 166 flights/week as compared to 159/week being operated currently. Flights from Mangalore to Kuwait had been discontinued in February 14 due to the grounding of the leased planes preparatory to their return.

The three-times a week flights from Mangalore to Kuwait planned in the Airline's winter schedule will operate in a triangular manner covering Bahrain. Days of operation will be Monday, Wednesday and Friday with departure from Mangalore to Kuwait at 7.30am and arrival at Bahrain at 9.20am. It will depart Bahrain at 10.15am and arrive in Kuwait at 11.15am. In the return direction, the flight from Kuwait will operate directly to Mangalore.

The flight will leave Kuwait at 12.15pm and arrive at Mangalore at 7.25pm.

With the introduction of flights to Kuwait via Bahrain, AIE flights between Mangalore and Doha will become non-stop and the two non-stop flights per week are scheduled to be operated on Thursday and Saturday respectively. The flight will depart from Mangalore at 6.05pm and arrive into Doha at 7.55pm. In the return direction, the flights from Doha to Mangalore will leave Doha at 10.30am and reach Mangalore at 5.05pm, a communique from AIE stated.

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This airline would make losses even if they had a fleet of magic aircraft using golgappa pani as fuel.

Useless bunch.
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http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/air-india-chalks-out-two-pronged-strategy-to-up-share-in-domestic-skies-114091900807_1.html


Air India chalks out two-pronged strategy to up share in domestic skies

787 Dreamliners will be deployed for corporate travellers and A320s would be used for economy passengers


September 19, 2014


Air India will deploy 787 Dreamliners to draw in corporate travellers on domestic routes. Meanwhile, the 19 787 Dreamliners will be deployed for corporate travellers and A320s would be used for economy passengerss the airline is in the process of leasing would be utilised to add more capacity and services for economy class passengers.

Air India Chairman Rohit Nandan said: "We are looking at utilising the 787s more optimally by deploying them more on domestic routes. There are many airlines which use A380s for 2-3 hour flights now (it is meant to be used for long-haul flights of eight hours). World over the economics of operating an aircraft is important. If you use larger aircraft on short-haul routes, the engine wears off faster. As long as that is factored in while working out the route economics and you make money, its fine. Our route economics analysis takes into account the expenses incurred in maintenance of engines."

Nandan, however, clarified the airline in not looking at deploying the Dreamliners on domestic routes in response to competition, "We are not responding to competition we have been thinking of this for some time. The 787 on domestic routes will be a game changer and will appeal to corporate clientele. We will charge the same as others in business class and offer a better product. It will offer better service and this is our USP", he informed.

Additionally, Air India is also in the process of leasing 19 A320s to increase capacity for economy travel. "We will also intensify the use of A320s to other destinations. We have a whole network ready to be exploited. We could not do so earlier because of insufficient aircraft", added Nandan.

The 19 A320s being leased will replace a similar number of older aircraft the airline has in its fleet. However, the new aircraft to be flown in all-economy configuration will offer more capacity of 180 seats. The aircraft being phased out currently offer between 144 and 168 seats.

Air India currently has 62 Airbus family aircraft (mix of A319s, A320s and A321s), used on domestic routes and some short haul routes. Air India flies 16 Boeing 787s and flies these to Europe, Japan, Singapore and Dubai. It also uses them on two domestic routes, Delhi-Kolkata and Delhi-Bangalore. It has 27 Boeing 787s on order and is expecting three additional planes till March 2015. It is expected to use these to ply on other metro routes.

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Air India’s insurance contract up for renewal on October 1 for an estimated $25 million

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/news/air-indias-insurance-contract-up-for-renewal-on-october-1-for-an-estimated-25-million/articleshow/43113261.cms
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Of the profitability details I know, G8 and SG struggle a lot on DEL-BLR sectors and have periodically reduced services.


If it's of any relevance, my flight yesterday on SG DEL-BLR was downgaged from a 739 to a 738, even after which it flew half-empty.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it's of any relevance, my flight yesterday on SG DEL-BLR was downgaged from a 739 to a 738, even after which it flew half-empty.
...and on a completely unrelated topic, did your tummy fly half-empty as well, or was the on-board food good - fresh, at least, after the catering switched to Taj-SATS and CCD? Yes, it is of a lot of relevance to me Razz
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Spiderguy252 wrote:
If it's of any relevance, my flight yesterday on SG DEL-BLR was downgaged from a 739 to a 738, even after which it flew half-empty.
...and on a completely unrelated topic, did your tummy fly half-empty as well, or was the on-board food good - fresh, at least, after the catering switched to Taj-SATS and CCD? Yes, it is of a lot of relevance to me Razz
Cheers, Sumantra.


Oops - I just noriced that you sent a text yesterday regarding this too, which I forgot to reply to.

The tummy did fly fully loaded, but with not what I ordered: they switched the Biryani and Mirch Ka Salan with the Chicken Chettinad and White Rice, claiming that they were out of choice. Smile
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The tummy did fly fully loaded, but with not what I ordered: they switched the Biryani and Mirch Ka Salan with the Chicken Chettinad and White Rice, claiming that they were out of choice. Smile

What? You get a CheTTinADu cuisine item, and you call it a downgraded choice? You know what I would have chosen, even half-asleep, if given this option Very Happy And come on, staying in Chennai with so many karAikuDi-type joints around has spoiled you for choice Razz
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Air India is looking to charter wide bodied aircraft with seating capacity of 240 seats in all economy configuration for Hajj 2014.

http://mmd.airindia.co.in/aimmd/tender/HAJ%202014%20TENDER%20-%20Phase%20II.doc


Apparently (at least) some 767s will be doing the rounds this year - not yet sure of the ACMI operator.


http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/31062-air-india-leasing-two-thai-b767s-for-hajj-charters

Air India leasing two Thai B767s for Hajj charters

Air India has wet-leased two B767-200(ER)s, HS-JAE (msn 24324) and HS-JAF (msn 24325), from Thailand's Jet Asia Airways for use on Hajj charter flights ch-aviation can exclusively reveal.

The aircraft join two others, N253MY (msn 23974) and N770JM (msn 24145), on lease from US-based carrier, Dynamic Airways.



Now, this is different !


http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/31220-air-india-to-lease-an-a320-from-gambias-aeolus-air-for-hajj

Air India to lease an A320 from Gambia's Aeolus Air for Hajj

Aeolus Air will lease one of its two A320-200s, C5-AAO (cn 368), to Air India for the duration of the Hajj season AeroTransport has reported. At present, Air India has also wet-leased in a pair of B767-200(ER)s from Dynamic Airways and Jet Asia Airways respectively to cover its Hajj charter flight needs.

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747-237 wrote:
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Air India is looking to charter wide bodied aircraft with seating capacity of 240 seats in all economy configuration for Hajj 2014.

http://mmd.airindia.co.in/aimmd/tender/HAJ%202014%20TENDER%20-%20Phase%20II.doc


Apparently (at least) some 767s will be doing the rounds this year - not yet sure of the ACMI operator.


http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/31062-air-india-leasing-two-thai-b767s-for-hajj-charters

Air India leasing two Thai B767s for Hajj charters

Air India has wet-leased two B767-200(ER)s, HS-JAE (msn 24324) and HS-JAF (msn 24325), from Thailand's Jet Asia Airways for use on Hajj charter flights ch-aviation can exclusively reveal.

The aircraft join two others, N253MY (msn 23974) and N770JM (msn 24145), on lease from US-based carrier, Dynamic Airways.



Now, this is different !


http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/31220-air-india-to-lease-an-a320-from-gambias-aeolus-air-for-hajj

Air India to lease an A320 from Gambia's Aeolus Air for Hajj

Aeolus Air will lease one of its two A320-200s, C5-AAO (cn 368), to Air India for the duration of the Hajj season AeroTransport has reported. At present, Air India has also wet-leased in a pair of B767-200(ER)s from Dynamic Airways and Jet Asia Airways respectively to cover its Hajj charter flight needs.


This all smells extraordinarily fishy.
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Jeh wrote:


This all smells extraordinarily fishy.


It doesn't smell fishy as much as it stinks.

The Hajj leasing racket is a well known one.
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