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Nimish Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:01 am Post subject: |
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There are similar incidents throughout the world and the crew are trained to stop serving folks who are tipsy + subdue them in case they become a nuisance. So long as drinks are paid for, you'll hardly find any misbehaving drunks on domestic flights. _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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Nis Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Was reading a thread on Airliners.net and read that VT-ANI (787 Dreamliner) hasn't flown since April 2014.
Any idea what is happening with it? |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Nis wrote: | Was reading a thread on Airliners.net and read that VT-ANI (787 Dreamliner) hasn't flown since April 2014.
Any idea what is happening with it? |
And that is BS - it has, as was proved in the same thread. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Air-India-plans-to-reintroduce-Mangalore-Kuwait-operations/articleshow/40936463.cms
Air India plans to reintroduce Mangalore - Kuwait operations
Aug 26, 2014
Plan to reintroduce operations from Mangalore to Kuwait is taking shape. The flights that were cancelled ostensibly due to lack of leased aircraft on part of Air India Express is now all set to restart in the Winter schedule of the national carrier. The flight will operate on the Bahrain-Kuwait-Mangalore route.
"As I informed you over phone on Friday evening, it has been planned to reintroduce the link between Mangalore and Kuwait three times a week effective 27 th October 2014, i.e from the start of the Winter 2014 schedule. The routing of the flight will be Mangalore- Bahrain - Kuwait - Mangalore. The flight from Mangalore to Kuwait has been planned to be operated on Monday, Wednesday and Friday departing from Mangalore at 7.30am and reaching Kuwait via Bahrain at 11.15am (local time). In the return direction the flight from Kuwait to Mangalore will operate non-stop leaving Kuwait at 12.15pm local time and arrive into Mangalore at 19.25 hours local time," _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Nis Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2013 Posts: 17 Location: India
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:01 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: |
And that is BS - it has, as was proved in the same thread. |
No, infact the registration on the link provided was wrong. Someone spotted VT-ANJ and said it was VT-ANI. There is no proof in the thread now that says VT-ANI is flying.
I have been spotting regularly for the last few months at VABB, and have not seen VT-ANI at all.
As per Libhomeradar, last flight was around 22nd April as AI 381.
So I come back to my question again, why is VT-ANI, not flying regularly?
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747-237 Member
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:09 am Post subject: |
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/India-Business/Air-India-notice-to-subsidiarys-CEO-seeks-explanation-for-Faulty-aircraft/articleshow/40961441.cms
Air India notice to subsidiary's CEO seeks explanation for Faulty aircraft
Aug 27, 2014
The Air India management on Tuesday issued a show cause notice to the CEO of its engineering subsidiary over the large number of faulty aircraft being grounded in recent days and unusually large delays caused by snags. The notice was issued to AI Engineering Services Ltd (AIESL) CEO H R Jaganath after last week saw as many as 10 planes — five Airbus A-320s, three to four Dreamliners and one other aircraft —being grounded on a single day.
"The problem of snags delaying planes has been worsening. Every day we have some flights being delayed due to snags not being rectified in time or plane being released for flight without the existing fault being rectified. While none of these are safety issues, they delay flight and inconvenience passengers. Given the gravity of the problem, we decided to issue the notice to the head of AIESL," said a senior official. AIESL was among the two subsidiaries carved out of AI, with the other being for ground handling.
Things came to a head last week when an unprecedented thing happened — two engine failures within a space of 10 hours. A 1989-era Airbus A-320 took off from Kochi for Delhi on last Thursday and got an engine fire warning within seconds of getting airborne. Thanks only to the commander's superb handling, the fully loaded plane returned to Kochi safely despite being way above the maximum landing weight.
And on Friday morning, another A-320 winging its way from Delhi to Ahmedabad had to land in Jaipur due to engine failure. "Airlines don't witness engine failures in years and AI saw two in 10 hours! This is unheard of," said a source.
AI had to crack the whip this time as aviation minister Ashok Gajapathi Raju had recently warned the Maharaja to improve his on time performance (OTP), in a 28-point missive issued to the airline on August 11.
Flight delays have become common in AI. On Tuesday itself, at least three AI planes saw serious delays. Two 1989-era Airbus A-320s were grounded in the morning. The Australia flight saw a lot of drama as passengers were kept seated inside a roasted-in-Delhi-summer Dreamliner for hours as the plane's AC was not working. Later when passengers protested, they were taken to the terminal till the plane was fit to fly.
"The problem is that once an aircraft develops a snag, passengers are kept seated inside the aircraft as AIESL tries to resolve the snag and avoid further delay that would be caused by making passengers alight from the plane and then board again. Hence, engineers keep saying that the fault will be rectified shortly while it may often take much longer and lead to passenger protests like on Tuesday they rebelled against being made to sit in an aircraft with no AC on a hot Delhi summer afternoon," said another source.
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: |
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^The article above is obviously laced with the typical shoddy journalism all around, but nothing about those old A320s surprises me anymore. If some are indeed from 1989, it's about time they were done away with. _________________ Yeah. |
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Spiderguy252 wrote: | ^The article above is obviously laced with the typical shoddy journalism all around, but nothing about those old A320s surprises me anymore. If some are indeed from 1989, it's about time they were done away with. |
Old aircraft can be maintained very well. And we are talking A320s here, modern aircraft with plenty of spares and technical support available, not Boeing 707s or DC-8s.
The problem is entirely with AI 's maintenance. One can never give the benefit of doubt to an airline that has reduced a brand new 77L to a motheaten state in no time, joined now by a brand new Dreamliner, if reports are to be believed. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, here's the deal with the Rs. 100/- fares.
And in typical fashion not too dissimilar to its railway counterpart, the website seems to have stalled altogether. _________________ Yeah. |
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vvk106 Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:02 am Post subject: |
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The air india website is still down |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:12 am Post subject: |
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I do not remember which thread I read this on: given that I have logged in to the site after a very long time, but here is news regarding Srinivas's question (if I remember correctly). VT-IWA went back into operation about a month back after the engine cowl was repaired). The first few days, she did the DEL-BLR domestic legs, and complemented the B77L (VT-ALT) well ex-DEL, handling the high capacity domestic legs with Dream)liner niggles. IWA is now active on the BOM-MAA-SIN route. For all of us enthusiasts looking forward to flying these elderly birds with the unique underfloor lavatory complex: they will be returned to the leasor around October, and will not be leased in again, from what I hear. There will be more Dream)liners around hopefully, and Air India is expanding Dream)liner routes in a relatively conservative manner, owing to the Dream)liner niggles.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:55 am Post subject: |
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/air-india-wants-boeing-to-give-more-compensation-for-the-grounding-of-dreamliners/articleshow/41042382.cms
Air India wants Boeing to give more compensation for the grounding of Dreamliners
28 Aug, 2014
Perturbed by the recurring glitches in its Boeing 787 Dreamliner fleet, Air India's management has asked Boeing to compensate for the grounding of the aircraft due to these problems and the subsequent loss of revenue because of bad publicity. These compensations would be over and above the demand for initial deliveries not being as fuel-efficient as promised, which is being negotiated.
Air India (AI) asked for this compensation in its meeting with Dinesh Keskar, senior vice-president, Boeing India, in the beginning of August. "The faults with Dreamliners are just refusing to die and we are facing a lot of losses due to aircraft on the ground, adverse publicity in media that takes away a lot of our passengers. We have asked Boeing to compensate us for the same," said a senior AI official.
He added that an executive representing the AI management, in its meeting with Keskar, showed him a file that was a compilation of media reportage over Dreamliner glitches in India.
"Every media report over Dreamliner glitches is adverse publicity for us, as we are trying to market Dreamliner as a product. Adverse publicity of the product discourages passengers from booking with us," the official said.
"The availability of spares also led to grounding of the aircraft for longer periods. We have asked Boeing to make spares available at all destinations where Dreamliners are operated by us," said the official. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:06 am Post subject: |
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sumantra wrote: | ... they will be returned to the leasor around October, and will not be leased in again, from what I hear. |
Two less aircraft types for AI by the end of the year then - no A330s & B77Ls (the latter, assuming the lease to EY goes through). _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:45 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | Two less aircraft types for AI by the end of the year then - no A330s & B77Ls (the latter, assuming the lease to EY goes through). | Ideally, it should have been two more, but the Govt is dragging its f(l)eet on Air India Regional (9I/CD). The AT4s are in very bad shape from the inside, and the CR7s should have been returned, and AI-R getting a new phase of life with some good AT7s. I really hope this happens as soon as possible.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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http://rtn.asia/d-r/8388/air-india-accuses-media-of-trying-to-demoralize-its-staff
Air India accuses media of trying to demoralize its staff
August 29, 2014
In an unusually strong statement, India’s state airline Air India, which has been trying to make a comeback after mounting losses, accused a section of the media of spreading negative and baseless news against it to prevent its re-emergence.
During Air India’s times of trouble, the Indian domestic aviation market has been captured by private sector players who have, over time, built up a good rapport with journalists. Air India, being a government company, has not been as successful as private airlines in building relationships with media people.
Air India’s accusation came in the wake of alleged reports that the company, which is being run with the help of taxpayer money, spent crores of rupees on organizing an “Air India Day”.
Air India said the total amount spent was around Rs 10 lakhs and the event was meant to boost employee morale.
“The reporting is totally baseless, mischievous and devoid of truth… The function was intended to felicitate our brave employees who have shown exemplary courage and devotion to the duty while going on rescue operations to bring back hundreds of our countrymen from the conflict zone in Iraq and Libya… While AI is trying to regain its past glory with hard earned successes in the recent time, there is a concerted effort on the part of a section of media to derail and demoralise our promise to success.”
It said the reason for the function was felicitate its courageous pilots who have conducted emergency landing while the aircraft was on fire.
“All this was intended to instill a sense of pride and confidence in our workforce who are slowly coming out of low morale over the period of difficult days in the company.”
It said some parts of the media was “showing undue harshness and resorting to biased, concocted, baseless and demeaning reporting in recent days to malign our reputations particularly when AI is showing definite promise.”
“All participants in the cultural function were talents of employees of the company only. No outside artist was associated with the program. All outstation employees participated in the function were accommodated in the hotel owned by AI subsidiary. AI deplores and condemns biased media reporting particularly when it is farthest from the truth. AI is also exploring to take up the issue to appropriate forum.”
It added that it was fully aware of its responsibilities towards the judicious use of tax payer’s money. “We are always committed to serve the nation to the best of our capabilities. It is to uphold the tradition of Air India to rise to the occasion whenever the nation demands even putting at risk the lives of our brave staffs including pilots, cabin crews, engineers and ground staffs that after so many years Air India decided to organise Air India day on 27th August, 2014.” _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.airindia.in/newsdetail.htm?517
Clarification from Headquarters to media
August 29, 2014
A canard is being spread by a section of press media about splurging crores of rupees on organising a function recently to coincide with the Air India Day. The reporting is totally baseless, mischievous and devoid of truth. It is reiterated that Air India is fully aware of its responsibilities towards the judicious use of tax payer’s money and we are always committed to serve the nation to the best of our capabilities. It is to uphold the tradition of Air India to rise to the occasion whenever the nation demands even putting at risk the lives of our brave staffs including pilots, cabin crews, engineers and ground staffs that after so many years Air India decided to organise Air India day on 27th August, 2014.
The function was intended to felicitate our brave employees who have shown exemplary courage and devotion to the duty while going on rescue operations to bring back hundreds of our countrymen from the conflict zone in Iraq and Libya. Also AI wanted to honour our courageous pilots who have efficiently negotiated emergency landing while the aircraft was on fire. All this was intended to instill a sense of pride and confidence in our workforce who are slowly coming out of low morale over the period of difficult days in the company. It was perfectly timed to celebrate our entry into Star Alliance ushering an era of improved product of AI on a global platform. We also felicitated our business partners for their continued support in our difficult period.
While AI is trying to regain its past glory with hard earned successes in the recent time, there is a concerted effort on the part of a section of media to derail and demoralise our promise to success. This section is showing undue harshness and resorting to biased, concocted, baseless and demeaning reporting in recent days to malign our reputations particularly when AI is showing definite promise. A canard has been spread by a section of vested media that crores were spent on the function, whereas the fact is that the total expenditure on the occasion was just around Rs.10 lacs. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/air-india-website-blocked-by-a-few-sites-in-india-abroad/articleshow/41200103.cms
Air India website blocked by a few sites in India, abroad
29 Aug, 2014
Air India's website, which went down two days ago after the airline offered a special fare of Rs 100, was apparently blocked by a few sites in India and abroad for a considerable time.
An unprecedented 80,000 hits a minute were recorded from some sites which blocked bookings by genuine passengers, the national carrier's Information Technology (IT) team found during internal investigations.
The IT team identified at least four sites in India, four in the United States and one in Singapore, which were blocking others from getting into the ticket booking engine, airline sources said.
The massive hits led the website's NIC server to turn erratic, they said. Almost all Indian-government websites are developed and managed by the National Informatics Centre (NIC).
Following the massive load on its website, the airline increased the number of its servers from four to eight, the sources said, adding a large number of tickets were sold at the offered rate but did not elaborate.
In a Facebook post on Wednesday, the national carrier had apologised to its "customers who tried to access our website during the last few hours. We are experiencing some technical problem with our servers and doing everything to minimise the amount of time necessary to restore our website."
Regarding its celebrations on August 27, Air India condemned "biased" reports that it had spent huge amounts of taxpayers' money on the event. Its unions like the Air Corporation Employees Union and Aviation Industry Employees' Guild also deplored these reports and supported the management on the matter.
An official release said the airline was also "exploring" to take up the issue at an appropriate forum. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | VT-ALT is still grounded and being repaired at EWR.
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Some more pics of VT-ALT
That tail (vertical stabilizer) was put back on today.
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Aseem Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:16 am Post subject: |
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looks like a very major repair.. can anybody update me on that.
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HAWK21M Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Vertical stablizer installation in the open....... _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | http://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/chandigarh/ai-suspends-flight-from-bhunter-airport/article1-1242995.aspx
AI suspends flight from Bhunter Airport
July 21, 2014
Air India would suspend its flight from the Bhunter airport in Kullu from July 22 to August 31. The move may hit the arrival of high-end tourists in the district in the coming days.
Bhunter airport station manager, Sandeep Puri, told HT that due to bad weather conditions the Air India had decided to suspend its flight from the Bhunter airport. |
http://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/chandigarh/air-india-to-resume-flight-service-to-bhunter-from-september-1/article1-1258513.aspx
Air India to resume flight service to Bhunter from September 1
August 31, 2014
Air India carrier will start its flight service to Bhunter airport here from September 1, which will give impetus to the sluggish tourism industry in the district.
The Air India carrier, which had suspended its flight services to the airport from July 20 this year, citing bad weather as a reason, had affected the tourists in the district.
Bhunter airport director YK Sharma said the Air India carrier would resume its flights service from Delhi to Bhunter airport from September 1 onwards.
With this decision, the people associated with the tourism industry will take a sigh of relief as it will help to boost the arrival of tourists in the district.
Talking to the Hindustan Times Kullu and Manali hoteliers' association president Anup Thakur said, the resumption of air service at Bhunter airport would give impetus to the sluggish tourism industry in Kullu district.
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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sumantra wrote: | Ideally, it should have been two more, but the Govt is dragging its f(l)eet on Air India Regional (9I/CD). |
Speaking of which, what's with the change in code from CD to 9I? _________________ Yeah. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:40 am Post subject: |
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/India-Business/AI-to-use-Dreamliners-on-metro-routes-in-peak-hours/articleshow/41638092.cms
AI to use Dreamliners on metro routes in peak hours
Sep 4, 2014
AI has thrown an ace in this game by deciding to fly the twin-aisle widebody Dreamliner on metro routes in the morning and evening peak hours. Till now, it was operating the Boeing 787 on Delhi-Kolkata and Delhi-Bangalore routes alone. From Monday, it stepped up flights on this aircraft with the aim of covering all six metros in coming weeks — or right before Vistara is launched by mid-October.
"Jet and Vistara will have single aisle narrow body Boeing 737 and Airbus A-320, respectively, on domestic routes. We, in addition to our A-320s, will have the B-787 that has full flat business class and bigger economy seats each with its own in-flight entertainment system. In the peak morning and evening travel time, this luxury will be available at the same price at which our competition will be giving much less. This move will be a game changer," said an official.
AI did a detailed cost benefit analysis of deploying the made-for-international-routes B-787 on domestic routes. "These planes will fly between metros in the morning and evening time when they are not going overseas. Their mainstay will be international flight but their domestic usage will be increased in the hours they would have remained idle, increasing the sweating of assets," said an official
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:52 am Post subject: |
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key words - "increasing sweating of assets"
"made-for-international-routes"
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Not a bad ploy, AI. Assuming the majority of the 787s are based at DEL, most of these flights will originate and terminate only out there though, aside from exceptions like BOM-MAA onwards to SIN, which is an international run in any case. _________________ Yeah. |
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Spiderguy252 wrote: | Spiderguy252 wrote: | Is AI having significant maintenance troubles with their fleet of ex-IC double bogied A320s? Mom's friend was supposed to take a KWI-AMD-HYD-MAA flight last week only to have the aircraft taxi back to KWI after galloping past a few feet on the runway. That flight was delayed by a good 26 hours coming in, though AI did provide a hotel in the terminal.
Mom's flight (which came in from VTZ I think) was similarly delayed by 4 hours due to technical troubles a couple of days later going into KWI via GOI. |
Again, mom was doing the return last night on KWI-AMD-HYD-MAA. The aircraft was a couple of hours late coming in and then couldn't take-off from KWI because of issues. Being taken to a hotel now.
Total farce. |
And again, dad's flight this time.
It's about time we stopped booking this flight. _________________ Yeah. |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Spiderguy252 wrote: | It's about time we stopped booking this flight. | Ouch! a flight with consistent delay statistics. My Papa's DEL-PNQ flight tomorrow and the PNQ-DEL return the day after is dealyed as well. They cancelled the legacy AI 849-850 rotations for a few days as well, and delayed the set of two dinner flights on 05-06 Sep, 2014.
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:57 am Post subject: |
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http://www.hindustantimes.com/business-news/ai-to-transfer-70-b777-pilots-to-low-cost-arm/article1-1260142.aspx
AI to transfer 70 B777 pilots to low-cost arm
September 05, 2014
Air India (AI) has decided to transfer 70 Boeing 777 pilots to its low-cost international arm — the AI Express.
The move will help the national carrier overcome the severe shortage of pilots faced by AI Express and at the same time put to optimal use B777 pilots whose flying had been reduced to a great extent with AI selling five of its B777 aircraft to Etihad. AI has plans to lease or sell another three B777 aircraft, which is a long haul aircraft.
“AI Express has a fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft and conversion from B777 to the narrow body B737 can be done easily. With this single move, we will solve two big problems,” a senior AI official, who did not wish to be named, said. The proposal, sources said, has been cleared by the airline’s board.
“Except for the ultra long-haul flights to the US, we are using the B787 Dreamliner on most international routes. All international flights are operated using the Dreamliner,” said another official, who too did not wish to be quoted. “AI Express had been facing a shortage of pilots while competition from foreign and domestic airlines for traffic to Gulf had been increasing. With more pilots, pressure should ease a bit,” the official added.
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:12 am Post subject: |
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747-237 wrote: | http://www.hindustantimes.com/business-news/ai-to-transfer-70-b777-pilots-to-low-cost-arm/article1-1260142.aspx
AI to transfer 70 B777 pilots to low-cost arm
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Those 777 pilots will transfer themselves to EK, QR, EY, SQ and MH before AI can say 'aunty'.
Why can't they hire some fresh ATPLs and train them on the 738 instead? _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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ameya Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Few flights upgraded to 787
AI764 DEL-CCU
AI23 CCU-DEL
AI403 DEL-BLR
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iah87 Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:50 am Post subject: |
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[quote="747-237"]http://www.livemint.com/Companies/hn4q9Hyha7ggXvz3NG1IEO/Air-India-mulls-REIT-IPO-to-raise-funds.html
Air India mulls REIT IPO to raise funds
Sep 03 2014
Air India is considering spinning off its real estate assets into a real estate investment trust (REIT) and list it on the stock exchanges in a move that could give the company significant tax breaks and also improve its finances.[/quote
What taxes ? AI never has to pay taxes since they are always losing money, instead of paying they are receiving tax payer money. The only good thing this REIT is to shift some liabilities to the REIT.
If the REIT makes money, it will make AI look even worse, but if it their strategy to cut some of the bloated workforce to thwart union demands, then may be it is a good idea. |
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sumantra Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:27 am Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | Few flights upgraded to 787
AI764 DEL-CCU
AI23 CCU-DEL | Interesting, though this is but a seasonal change, I guess. Of the four pairs between DEL and CCU, AI have on occassion, deployed up to 3 Dream)liners daily, on the route. In this case, I think it is a nice combination of primarily the AI 23 connecting traffic to JFK and ORD, plus the extremely popular domestic demand on AI 764.
ameya wrote: | AI403 DEL-BLR
AI404 BLR-DEL | Usually the most popular flight both ways between the pair of cities.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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vivekman Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1897 Location: BOM
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:39 am Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | Those 777 pilots will transfer themselves to EK, QR, EY, SQ and MH before AI can say 'aunty'.
Why can't they hire some fresh ATPLs and train them on the 738 instead? |
And then do what with the excess 777 pilots?
AI anyway has a big problem with its bloated workforce. Last thing they need is a bunch of high earning pilots sitting around doing nothing. AI is unlikely to buy/lease any more 777s in the near future - so these pilots will not have much to do.
IMO, it is a good move to transfer these to AIX. Even if half of them agree to move (considering the other half decide to quit and join other carriers) it will solve the pilot shortage issue at AIX without the additional cost of hiring people from outside and training them. _________________ Boeing makes planes. Airbus makes videogames! |
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vivekman Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1897 Location: BOM
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | Few flights upgraded to 787
AI764 DEL-CCU
AI23 CCU-DEL
AI403 DEL-BLR
AI404 BLR-DEL |
No upgrades ex-BOM?
As of now, there's only two "domestic" 787 ops from BOM, both of which are legs of international flights - BOM-DEL-PVG and BOM-MAA-SIN
Any idea if there will be any other flights from BOM that will be upgraded to a 787? _________________ Boeing makes planes. Airbus makes videogames! |
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Nimish Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:57 am Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | Those 777 pilots will transfer themselves to EK, QR, EY, SQ and MH before AI can say 'aunty'.
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Absolutely - but this triggers that exodus - rather than sitting at home and twiddling their thumbs (while drawing salary from AI), they now have to choose between IX or EK/ QR/ EY/ SQ/ MH etc. I think it's a good move by AI.
The_Goat wrote: | Why can't they hire some fresh ATPLs and train them on the 738 instead? |
God alone knows - though certainly you do need experienced pilots in addition to freshers - plus you need some way to keep the current pilots occupied. _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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Spiderguy252 Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4259 Location: Indian Ocean
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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vivekman wrote: | AI is unlikely to buy/lease any more 777s in the near future - so these pilots will not have much to do. |
Eventually they will have to take in 3 more 77Ws, unless they decide to morph them into further 787s. _________________ Yeah. |
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jbalonso777 Member
Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 1501 Location: Never, never land
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | Those 777 pilots will transfer themselves to EK, QR, EY, SQ and MH before AI can say 'aunty'. |
Due to the unfortunate events at MH, and MH cutting down on employees (not sure if that includes crew members), I doubt if we'll see anyone go to MH, sadly
There's also CX close by...
vivekman wrote: | AI is unlikely to buy/lease any more 777s in the near future - so these pilots will not have much to do. |
Whatever happened to VT-ALV/W/X?
C/n 36320, 36321, 36322...according to Planespotters...
Regards
Jish _________________ http://www.youtube.com/c/JishnuBasu777 |
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