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747-237 Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: First flyable A350 XWB 'MSN-001' prototype rolls out |
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NOTE: Intentionally posted in the "Civil Aviation" section, as this relates to an aircraft type, rather than an (non-Indian) airline.
http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/first-flyable-a350-xwb-msn-001-structurally-complete/#
First flyable A350 XWB 'MSN-001' structurally complete
Aircraft makes its first journey ‘on wheels’
4 December 2012
Airbus has successfully completed the main structural assembly and system connection of A350 XWB ‘MSN-001’ – the first flight-test aircraft. The aircraft is depicted here on its wheels for the very first time moving out of the main assembly hall (Station 40) at the recently inaugurated “Roger Béteille” A350 XWB Final Assembly Line in Toulouse. It then entered the adjacent indoor ground test station (Station 30).
The assembly work performed in Station 40 included the successful electrical power-on of the aircraft's entire fuselage and wings. Soon work in Station 30 will start by testing the aircraft's hydraulic system, followed by the full electric and hydraulic power-on of the aircraft which will be completed by around the end of the year. This will mark the start of several weeks of comprehensive functional system testing.
After the A350 XWB MSN-001 exits station 30, the aircraft will go through a series of extensive production and certification / development tests, be painted and have its engines installed. It will then be delivered to the flight-line and be readied for its first flight in mid-2013.
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nice. Looks like what came out when a 787 and an A321 did it in the barn.
and the title of the article is misleading. It is far from 'flyable' , the way it is right now. Airbus's PR dept needs some English lessons! _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | Nice. Looks like what came out when a 787 and an A321 did it in the barn. |
Looks a lot like the BAe ATP, especially in the last pic.
The_Goat wrote: | and the title of the article is misleading. It is far from 'flyable' , the way it is right now. Airbus's PR dept needs some English lessons! |
I guess they mean that this is the first airframe that will be capable of flight in the future (hence the MSN-001). _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Jeh Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Not that this aspect is of any operational consequence, but good heavens it's ugly. Weak, shapeless nose, A380-inspired cockpit windows, the works. Are the 747-8 and the remaining A330 variants the last genuinely elegant designs to emerge from the major manufacturers? The future is the 787, A350, NEO, MAX and BWB concepts that look 'cool' and 'futuristic' but not, IMHO, elegant or even majestic like the older designs
On the other hand, perhaps somebody said the same thing when the 747 came out I might yet get used to the plastic beauties. |
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Jeh wrote: | Are the 747-8 and the remaining A330 variants the last genuinely elegant designs to emerge from the major manufacturers? |
A touch unfair on the A340-500 and -600. And the A350 looks rather good, in my opinion. It's stuff like the B757 and the A310 that fall under the 'ugly' category. _________________ Yeah. |
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Jeh Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Spiderguy252 wrote: | Jeh wrote: | Are the 747-8 and the remaining A330 variants the last genuinely elegant designs to emerge from the major manufacturers? |
A touch unfair on the A340-500 and -600. And the A350 looks rather good, in my opinion. It's stuff like the B757 and the A310 that fall under the 'ugly' category. |
Of course, the A340 family is one of my favourites, though the hairdryer-equipped early varieties could be better. I was referring to aircraft still in production. |
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Spiderguy252 wrote: |
It's stuff like the B757 and the A310 that fall under the 'ugly' category. |
The A310 IMO, only looked ugly in AI's old Taj Mahal livery. Only the 747 looked good in that. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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sammyk Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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For something Xtra Wide it sure looks Xtra Thin. |
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airbus340 Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: First flyable A350 XWB 'MSN-001' prototype rolls out |
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747-237 wrote: | NOTE: Intentionally posted in the "Civil Aviation" section, as this relates to an aircraft type, rather than an (non-Indian) airline.
http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/first-flyable-a350-xwb-msn-001-structurally-complete/#
First flyable A350 XWB 'MSN-001' structurally complete
Aircraft makes its first journey ‘on wheels’
4 December 2012
Airbus has successfully completed the main structural assembly and system connection of A350 XWB ‘MSN-001’ – the first flight-test aircraft. The aircraft is depicted here on its wheels for the very first time moving out of the main assembly hall (Station 40) at the recently inaugurated “Roger Béteille” A350 XWB Final Assembly Line in Toulouse. It then entered the adjacent indoor ground test station (Station 30).
The assembly work performed in Station 40 included the successful electrical power-on of the aircraft's entire fuselage and wings. Soon work in Station 30 will start by testing the aircraft's hydraulic system, followed by the full electric and hydraulic power-on of the aircraft which will be completed by around the end of the year. This will mark the start of several weeks of comprehensive functional system testing.
After the A350 XWB MSN-001 exits station 30, the aircraft will go through a series of extensive production and certification / development tests, be painted and have its engines installed. It will then be delivered to the flight-line and be readied for its first flight in mid-2013.
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My favourite of them all is the A340-600 . Its such a beauty and no doubt it looks best in VS Colours !! |
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: First flyable A350 XWB 'MSN-001' prototype rolls out |
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airbus340 wrote: | My favourite of them all is the A340-600 . Its such a beauty and no doubt it looks best in VS Colours !! |
The new one? Sure, but they looked very bland in the livery used upto 2011-12.
Personally, Thai's cool purple scheme does it for me (though on the 345). A close second - though not an actual, fully-fledged livery - would be Etihad's F1 bird.
In last place? The carrier from Germany. _________________ Yeah.
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Jeh Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:13 am Post subject: Re: First flyable A350 XWB 'MSN-001' prototype rolls out |
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Spiderguy252 wrote: | airbus340 wrote: | My favourite of them all is the A340-600 . Its such a beauty and no doubt it looks best in VS Colours !! |
The new one? Sure, but they looked very bland in the livery used upto 2011-12.
Personally, Thai's cool purple scheme does it for me (though on the 345). A close second - though not an actual, fully-fledged livery - would be Etihad's F1 bird.
In last place? The carrier from Germany. |
I agree with both of you - the A345/A346 are very elegant aircraft. China Eastern tried valiantly to make it look ugly but failed. VS's new scheme is smashing, except for the Macy's-style billboard lettering that I'm not a great fan of - also, one wonders if it will age well. LH is uninspiring and bland, Iberia's is reasonably nice and South African's looks like a great design that was abandoned halfway (the tailfin is gorgeous).
I find that my grouse with the aesthetics of these new-fangled recent aircraft is the nose and the shape of the cockpit windows - the 787 and the A350 have a sort of dull, undefined nose that makes the fuselage side-on look like a right-angled trapezoid, like a bullet train. The windows on the A380 and A350 have the most appalling Comic Sans shapes.
Just compare:
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I find that the best liveries on the A380 and 787 are those that obscure the nose in some way - think China Southern's A380 and Qatar's 787. |
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:28 am Post subject: |
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The nose on the 787 ain't sharp enough, is the cerebral point you're trying to make.
And I agree whole-heartedly. _________________ Yeah. |
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HAWK21M Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting ...............4 wheel bogie........ _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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Theairplaneguy4ever Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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HAWK21M wrote: | Interesting ...............4 wheel bogie........ |
I think the 1000 variant has the 6 wheeled one like the 777 (?) _________________ India's first HD Video Trip Report Channel : www.youtube.com/Theairplaneguy4ever |
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me111993 Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Theairplaneguy4ever wrote: | HAWK21M wrote: | Interesting ...............4 wheel bogie........ |
I think the 1000 variant has the 6 wheeled one like the 777 (?) |
Dunno about the -1000 but the 787-10 sure does have a 6 wheel bogie. _________________ Causal Determinism : We are hardwired to need answers. The Caveman who heard a rustle in the bushes and checked out to see what it was, lived longer than the guy, who assumed it was just a breeze.
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Jaysit Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a boring, copycat version of the 787.
Which is just what it is. |
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Jaysit wrote: | Looks like a boring, copycat version of the 787.
Which is just what it is. |
It's a touch wider than the 787 if that helps.
And both designs came around within a couple of years of each other, and you can't really allege that one "copied" from the other. _________________ Yeah. |
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stealthpilot Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: | Nice. Looks like what came out when a 787 and an A321 did it in the barn. |
Hahahah my thoughts exactly.
It will look really good when she's painted up and flying, heck the 787 looked odd when we first saw it (come to think of it it looks a bit odd now coz its so small...) _________________ eP007 |
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ssbmat Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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No one commented on the Wing ? It looks straight and thickish, nothing fancy like the A380 or even the A330/40.
More like the A300. |
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Theairplaneguy4ever Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: |
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ssbmat wrote: | No one commented on the Wing ? It looks straight and thickish, nothing fancy like the A380 or even the A330/40.
More like the A300. |
This isn't the completed aircraft. I think the wingtips are attached later.
Airbus have opted for the raked wingtips like the 777, so they are different from the other line of aircraft. _________________ India's first HD Video Trip Report Channel : www.youtube.com/Theairplaneguy4ever |
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d3vski Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a scaled up version of the A321.
Maybe after a paint job, it will look better. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Winglets have been installed on the A350XWB first flight-test aircraft.
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:46 am Post subject: |
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http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/first-a350-xwb-with-wings-complete-emerges-for-outdoor-testing/
First A350 XWB with wings complete emerges for outdoor testing
26 February 2013
The first A350 XWB – MSN001 – now showing its completed wings, has moved to its next phase of ground testing, from Roger Béteille A350 XWB FAL “Station 30” to the Clément Ader area “Station 18” in Toulouse. The aircraft is structurally complete and shows the installed winglets, belly fairing panels, main landing gear doors.
The aircraft has recently completed successfully a series of indoor ground tests as well as stability tests on ‘movable’ elements such as rudder, elevators, ailerons and wing spoilers and landing gears extraction/retraction. The next steps which will take place outdoors at the Station 18 ground test station will include three planned families of tests: Fuel tanks testing – including levels, flows, sealing and internal fuel transfer functions; pressure testing of the fuselage; and radio equipment testing.
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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:37 am Post subject: |
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http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/airbus-installs-rolls-royce-trent-xwb-engines-and-honeywell-apu-on-a350-xwb-msn001/
Airbus installs Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engines and Honeywell APU on A350 XWB MSN001
26 March 2013
Airbus has installed on the first flight-test A350 XWB (MSN001) its two flight-ready Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engines and is also installing the new Honeywell HGT1700 auxiliary power unit (APU) at Airbus’ production facilities in Toulouse (France).
The new Trent engines were both received from UTC Aerospace Systems (formerly Goodrich) which had recently prepared the fully integrated powerplants prior to their installation on the aircraft’s pylons. Last month the Trent XWB received Engine Type Certification from EASA, confirming that the engine had fulfilled EASA’s airworthiness requirements for flight. The Trent XWB has already powered a series of test flights on Airbus’ A380 Flying Test Bed (FTB) aircraft since February 2012, demonstrating a high level of maturity.
In parallel to the mounting of the two Trent XWB engines in Toulouse, the A350 XWB is also this week being fitted with its new specially developed APU – the Honeywell HGT1700 which has greater power density and higher efficiency than the previous generation APUs.
With the installation of its engines and also the APU, the A350 XWB MSN001 becomes essentially a ‘completed’ aircraft. Following the ongoing ground tests, other preparations and also painting in the coming weeks, MSN001 will then be handed over to the Airbus Flight Test team to commence preparations for ground runs and maiden flight in the summer.
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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Lovely pictures! _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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First A350 XWB painting completed in Toulouse
13 May 2013
Painting of the first A350 XWB “MSN001” was today fully completed as it emerged in its Airbus livery out from the paintshop in Toulouse. This latest milestone shows that MSN001 is progressing well on its route to first flight.
The aircraft painting was achieved in less than seven days and follows the recent completion of MSN001’s flight-test-instrumentation (FTI) verification. Last month the aircraft underwent its engines installation, and passed a subsequent intensive phase of ground vibration tests. MSN001 will soon start the final tests before its maiden flight this summer.
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:04 am Post subject: |
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Like I said before, it really looks like the result of a 787 and a A321 doing it.
Nice bird though. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:19 am Post subject: |
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She seems to have a slightly different paint job on the other side of the fuselage, with "A350-900" titles.
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Nimish Member
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Meh.. Does not look wide at all - perhaps it's the angle, but there seems to be nothing extra-wide-bus about this bus. Seems like the proportions of a 757... _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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Its shaping up like a B787/Tu204 combo.....The Winglets look great. _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Surprised to see the "eye-shades" and a 6 pane cockpit.
Otherwise, she's an absolute - I believe humdinger is the word I'm looking for. The Trents and the blended winglets are a sure hit. _________________ Why can't Donuts be square? |
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Optimus.Prime wrote: | Surprised to see the "eye-shades" and a 6 pane cockpit.
Otherwise, she's an absolute - I believe humdinger is the word I'm looking for. The Trents and the blended winglets are a sure hit. |
The winglets sure look great. She looks beautiful but my favorite would always be the Queen of the skies. |
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sammyk Member
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Nimish wrote: | Meh.. Does not look wide at all - perhaps it's the angle, but there seems to be nothing extra-wide-bus about this bus. Seems like the proportions of a 757... |
Yah, I keep thinking I'm looking at some super A321 or something and have to look twice. |
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Nimish wrote: | Meh.. Does not look wide at all - perhaps it's the angle, but there seems to be nothing extra-wide-bus about this bus. Seems like the proportions of a 757... |
That's probably a good thing in my book. Going too wide runs the all-too-real risk of Boeing-esque 10-abreast seating and middle seats in the front cabins.
No thanks.
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:52 am Post subject: |
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jasepl wrote: | Nimish wrote: | Meh.. Does not look wide at all - perhaps it's the angle, but there seems to be nothing extra-wide-bus about this bus. Seems like the proportions of a 757... |
That's probably a good thing in my book. Going too wide runs the all-too-real risk of Boeing-esque 10-abreast seating and middle seats in the front cabins.
No thanks.
The Airbuses do not need to get fatter! |
Oh don't worry about that, some airlines are planning to cram 10-abreast Y seating into them in any case. _________________ Yeah. |
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ssbmat Member
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Does the tail look a bit shorter in comparision to the overall body?
And whats with this newfound fascination with a nose-job? Airbus seem to trying to outdo everyone from Boeing to Embraer to Sukhoi on this.. |
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Spiderguy252 wrote: | jasepl wrote: | Nimish wrote: | Meh.. Does not look wide at all - perhaps it's the angle, but there seems to be nothing extra-wide-bus about this bus. Seems like the proportions of a 757... |
That's probably a good thing in my book. Going too wide runs the all-too-real risk of Boeing-esque 10-abreast seating and middle seats in the front cabins.
No thanks.
The Airbuses do not need to get fatter! |
Oh don't worry about that, some airlines are planning to cram 10-abreast Y seating into them in any case. |
Some already do 9 abreast on A330 Y class
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbus-A330-202/2236418/L/&sid=d9d78248111c1a79e8ff53dae2cb10c6 _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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Aseem Member
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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can anybody confirm it to me whether %age of composite on A350 is as much as B787?
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Spiderguy252 Member
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ah yes, but Air Asia X is the exception rather than the norm - their very existence proves so. The only other carrier that comes to mind is Thomas Cook, and they're a charter airline. The ex-Nov Air 332s that made their way to KU in 2006 (currently VT-IWA and IWB with AI) were also 9 a row in Y, but again, charter configuration. _________________ Yeah. |
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stealthpilot Member
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Finally. After the 380 and 787- at least she has her proportions right!
Love the eyes .... and the wings. I like all the sensors around her nose ... and her front bit She's just good looking!! _________________ eP007 |
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