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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sumantra sir, that is awesome! Lovely to see the new bird! I hope you're on that bird sooner than later, and we have a trip report to read! 👌😉

Is it just me of does the AT6 look more white than the AT4? 😐

Also, I once remember seeing an AT4 do CCU-MAA in just under 4 hours! This is from 2012, so it must've been a one off positioning flight 😊

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jbalonso777 wrote:
Lovely to see the new bird! I hope you're on that bird sooner than later, and we have a trip report to read!
Thank you, Sir: I am also looking forward to official trips on this. My only AT7-6 experience has been on VT-JCY, and I enjoyed it (also thanks to a good BoB breakfast Razz)
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Is it just me of does the AT6 look more white than the AT4?
Did the rain and inclement weather help in an unintentional `deep cleaning'? I hear that Air France sends its planes to areas with some inclement weather, for the same reason Razz Jokes apart, I guess it was also the camera's automatic gain control, which was working over-time due to dark and rainy surroundings. I have been wondering if the AII parked there, and the AI 9401 flight that day were correlated, which is what you suspect as well, below.
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Also, I once remember seeing an AT4 do CCU-MAA in just under 4 hours! This is from 2012, so it must've been a one off positioning flight
Wow, a four hour positioning flight, with passengers taken in to earn some money as well! And there was food that time as well, on board. I guess we know about this one: it was for the AGX service, with the bird coming back from the heavy Engg maintenance base at CCU. Was this one of the birds in the new colours: the Lincoln plane ABE? It is good to see AI offering heavy demand season positioning flights not to be taken as ferry flights, but have passengers as well, hopefully not violating FDTL regulations.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:03 pm    Post subject: Anybody seen this? Reply with quote

Somehow I landed on this website. It will be of interest for some of us I think..

http://www.airindiavirtual.net/vms/index.php/
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised to note that they are recruiting. I thought Air India had a bloated staff ratio.

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Air India approved to hire additional 800 cabin crew
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Air India reportedly received approval from India's Civil Aviation Ministry to hire an additional 800 cabin crew to meet the current shortage impacting the carrier's operations (PTI, 05-Jan-2015). The carrier has now begun conducting walk-in interviews across major cities to hire the additional crew. Air India has currently over 2500 cabin crew, including the executive officers, supporting a fleet of 100 aircraft.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surprised to note that they are recruiting. I thought Air India had a bloated staff ratio.


I think they are short of skilled staff - whether MX or flight crew. They are probably overstaffed elsewhere, but those cannot be redeployed to these functions.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ here's an instance of crew shortage - though knowing AI - it could just be poor scheduling/ planning!

From: http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/chicago-bound-ai-passengers-stranded-in-delhi-due-to-crew-shortage/article1-1303587.aspx

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Chicago-bound AI fliers face harrowing times in Delhi due to crew shortage
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According to sources, Air India's terminal staff at the Indira Gandhi International Airport (IGI) in Delhi realised that it did not have sufficient flight attendants to operate its daily services to Chicago and New York.

But, by then it was too late as the airline had issued boarding passes to the passengers and the latter were getting restless.

Eventually, the Chicago-bound flight (AI127) was cancelled and its cabin crew personnel were pulled in to operate the New York-bound flight (AI101).

"The Delhi-New York flight is the airline's most prestigious service. As a result, the human resources of the Chicago-bound flight was used for it operation," a senior airline official said requesting anonymity.

An Air India spokesperson confirmed that the cancellation of the Chicago-bound flight had caused ruckus among the passengers, but added that there was crew shortage in only one of the flights. "The Chicago-bound flight could not be operated owing to shortage of flight attendants. But there was no problem in the flight bound to John F Kennedy airport," he said.
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While there was no clarity on the cause of sudden crew shortage, the airline sources said that many international AI flights were being operated with inadequate cabin crew.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Haha!

ATR-42 now flying JFK-DEL!

What a ride for 27 Hours!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Haha!

ATR-42 now flying JFK-DEL!

What a ride for 27 Hours!


It's the registration that's causing the confusion : ALL vs AII. And still, that would be a 72, not a 42.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarcasm. Rolling Eyes
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Air India ‘forgets’ to roster pilots for London-Delhi flight


"Problem arose in the shuffling between Boeing 777 aircraft and Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft on the Delhi-London-Delhi route. After the Boeing 787 Dreamliner took off from Delhi for London on Tuesday, the crew scheduling department realized that they had not positioned any pilots licensed to fly the B787 Dreamliner in London on Tuesday to fly the aircraft back to Delhi. It was a simple case of poor handling of the situation, which led to losses to the carrier," the source added
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Air-India-forgets-to-roster-pilots-for-London-Delhi-flight/articleshow/45802395.cms
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http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/Air-India-to-Launch-New-Delhi-Vijayawada-Flight-From-January-15/2015/01/07/article2608277.ece

Air India to Launch New Delhi-Vijayawada Flight From January 15

07th January 2015


Air India will launch a new daily service between Delhi and Vijayawada from January 15.

This was stated by Vijayawada Lok Sabha MP Kesineni Srinivas in a press release here on Wednesday.

The AI 455 flight will leave Delhi at 6.20 am and arrive at Gannavaram Airport here at 8.20 am. The return service AI 456 will leave Vijayawada at 9 am the same day and reach the national capital at 11.05 am, the release said.

This is the Government-run airline's second service on the route. The existing one arrives and departs in the evening.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[i]Air India ‘forgets’ to roster pilots for London-Delhi flight


Is this for real? If yes, why is AI relying on Humans to trigger such things, all this should be automated through a crew rostering software package no?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told they did not roster standby staff, not forget to roster per se.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look who's back in the air, guys! Very Happy



Credits to Karan for spotting it, I was just tracking UK890 as it approached into BOM, didn't even take note of ALH! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jbalonso777 wrote:
Credits to Karan for spotting it, I was just tracking UK890 as it approached into BOM, didn't even take note of ALH! Smile
This is good news. From what I had heard, VT-ALH `Maharashtra' was officially `stored' after being brought to working condition, and was placed in readiness to help out in the heavy fog season. This year, the fog at Delhi is well over the 15-day average fog period. I do not think the Dream)liners at Cat-IIIB certified as yet, so Air India seems to be putting the B777s and B744s also in action. The DXB-DEL morning saw VT-EVA `Agra' come into DEL with a load (albeit mostly Y) befitting only a B744.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mayankarora1411 wrote:

ATR-42 now flying JFK-DEL!
I cannot see an ATR42 in the image. Which date and which aircraft reg?
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I do not think the Dream)liners at Cat-IIIB certified as yet,
That is because our great, efficient and very moral DGCA does not accept the FAA's certification and requires pilots to do a certain number of autolands in simulated CAT III conditions which our very efficient national carrier has still not done.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is because our great, efficient and very moral DGCA does not accept the FAA's certification and requires pilots to do a certain number of autolands in simulated CAT III conditions which our very efficient national carrier has still not done.
Oops...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:59 am    Post subject: First trip on AI post *A membership (BLR-DEL-BAH) Reply with quote

On on the trip reports section - my first trip on AI post *A membership (BLR-DEL-BAH)

http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?p=142824#142824
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is because our great, efficient and very moral DGCA does not accept the FAA's certification and requires pilots to do a certain number of autolands in simulated CAT III conditions which our very efficient national carrier has still not done.


Even if you ignore DGCA's refusal to accept the FAA certification, surely AI would benefit by doing these autolands as needed? As they're the only domestic operator of the 787 in India, they stand to gain the most, so it's amazing they've not gone through the process as yet.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/pilot-shortage-hits-alliance-airs-operations/articleshow/45847137.cms

Pilot shortage hits Alliance Air's operations

12 Jan, 2015

"Alliance Air has two types of aircraft in its fleet - ATRs and CRJs. The airline is in the process of replacing the CRJ fleet by ATRs. The flight to Port Blair was being operated by a CRJ, which cannot be now flown due to shortage of pilots, who have left the airline," said an Air India official.

The official added that pilots leaving the airline is a case of mismanagement. The airline had about 64 pilots till two months back, but it decided to replace all these fleet by new ATR aircraft.

"The management then wanted these CRJ pilots to be upgraded to Airbus fleet, which would not have been possible because there's an abundance of Airbus pilots with the airline," the official added.

The airline plans to increase the fleet strength in Alliance Air to 15 from the 8 at present, and the inductions will begin from December this year. While the first eight aircraft will be replacements, the rest would be additions.

The airline has already inducted one ATR in its fleet.

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http://www.caribjournal.com/2015/01/11/avianca-air-india-eye-plan-cooperation/#

Avianca, Air India Eye Plan Cooperation

January 11, 2015

Avianca and Air India have signed a memorandum of understanding aimed at future collaboration between the two carriers.

The primary aim of the memorandum is a future codeshare agreement.

The signing was held in New Delhi at a meeting of Star Alliance member airline CEOs.

“We are always looking for new ways to improve flight options for our passengers and we look forward to working with Air India to implement this bilateral codeshare agreement in the near future,” said Fabio Villegas, CEO of Avianca. “The new agreement represents for the passengers of Air India and Avianca access to more cities, better connection times and the possibility of a smoother trip at a much more competitive rate.”

India remains a large potential source market for the wider Caribbean region.

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^^ Well - something's better than nothing I guess, however I was thinking perhaps United would be a more relevant partner in the Americas?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was thinking perhaps United would be a more relevant partner in the Americas?
After the possible FAA upgrade?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nimish wrote:
I was thinking perhaps United would be a more relevant partner in the Americas?
After the possible FAA upgrade?

Which may happen after the President meets the PM ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ True - I forgot about this constraint. Hopefully (for our own safety), I hope the DGCA has cleaned up it's act by now.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which may happen after the President meets the PM?

Nimish wrote:
True - I forgot about this constraint. Hopefully (for our own safety), I hope the DGCA has cleaned up it's act by now.
Quite possible, and I am hoping that both happen: the FAA upgrade, as well as the DGCA change. In this case, at least from my armchair enthusiast's viewpoint, the FAA points look extremely valid, and if the DGCA does indeed comply, it will benefit us. This clearly does not look like a case of any high-handedness. Given the official machinery, official pay scales, and other Government red-tape, this may not be an easy thing to do however: though I remain hopeful that these changes will happen quickly, even if the FAA upgrade comes in when the Twain shall meet. AI is being understandably cautious, UA were not in favour of AI's *A entry in the first place (perhaps not without reason, but then they are no saints, and pinnacles of virtue and exemplary passenger service, anyway), and CA had also gloated about AI's being put on hold - publicly, on its website: all before our Ministry Babus arm-twisted LH into the eventual *A admission.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/acche-din-for-air-india-as-it-records-profit-after-long-spell-of-losses/articleshow/45857584.cms

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After a long spell of losses, national carrier Air India recorded a net profit of Rs 14.6 crore in December last, driven by a healthy growth in both passenger and cargo revenue.

The airline's total revenue rose by 6.5 per cent to Rs 2070 crore during December 2014 as compared to Rs 1,944 crore in the same period of 2013, official sources said here.

"AI estimates passenger revenue of Rs 16,500 crore during the fiscal 2014-15 and a total revenue of nearly Rs 21,500 crore.
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AI Fare sale now on - however with the revised YQ (Fuel surcharge), nothing great in reality.

http://www.airindia.in/Images/pdf/Promo_Fare.pdf

The AI earnings alone on BLR-DEL (Fare + Fuel surcharge) are now around Rs. 3800 + taxes/ UDF etc leading to a ticket at around Rs. 4500. Which is hardly a great sale. On the other hand, these fares are more sustainable for AI, so hopefully folks get hooked onto the "Sale" keyword and book with AI Smile
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Unbelievable but true....

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Air India reports USD2.3m profit in Dec-2014
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Air India reported an INR146 million (USD2.3 million) profit in Dec-2014, driven by a healthy growth in passenger and cargo revenue (PTI, 13-Jan-2015). Revenue increased 6.5% year-on-year to INR20.7 billion (USD329.4 million), including a 13.5% increase in passenger revenue to INR15.6 billion (USD248.7 million). Passenger numbers during the month increased 17.5% to 1.6 million while seat factor increased 1.4 ppt to 77.7%. For the year ending Mar-2015, the carrier is forecasting revenue of INR215 billion (USD3.4 billion), including passenger revenue of INR165 billion (USD2.6 billion). Consolidated revenue with its subsidiaries is predicted to reach 250 billion (USD4.0 billion).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AI Fare sale now on - however with the revised YQ (Fuel surcharge), nothing great in reality.
Nimish, you may have missed something. On a casual dekko, some DEL-BOM fares were less than Rs.3k in all. Some fares are indeed quite low. And see what domino effect it has had on other airlines. After the Air India email yesterday, Jet and Indigo have followed suit.
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sumantra wrote:
Nimish, you may have missed something. On a casual dekko, some DEL-BOM fares were less than Rs.3k in all. Some fares are indeed quite low. And see what domino effect it has had on other airlines. After the Air India email yesterday, Jet and Indigo have followed suit.
Cheers, Sumantra.


Hi Sumantra - we've probably seen BOM-DEL at 3K numerous times in 2014, at much higher fuel prices than today. And you could routinely get a BOM-DEL fare at 4-5K levels (baring last minute/ peak period), hence my comment that this is not a "massive" sale.

AI is constantly tweaking the fares, even the PDF with the fares is updated from the time I posted it last.

But you're right - this has a domino effect of 6E/ 9W matching the fares.
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Hi Sumantra - we've probably seen BOM-DEL at 3K numerous times in 2014
I guess you have been really lucky, since I have made quite a few DEL-BOM trips over the past few years, and the only time I have seen a 3k fare (and not an under 3k one, as now) has been March 2013. Yes, I've made quite a few DEL-BOM trips: all on AI, of course.
Nimish wrote:
AI is constantly tweaking the fares, even the PDF with the fares is updated from the time I posted it last.
For AI's sake, this is actually rather neat to see: pro-active dynamic pricing: really dynamic! Yes, I also see some changes. I guess the seats are filling up rapidly. AI has had some awesome loads of late: larger aircraft have operated many domestic and international sectors, rather than sunning themselves on the tarmac at BOM. I hope the returns also follow, for their sake!
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sri_bom wrote:
Unbelievable but true....

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Air India reports USD2.3m profit in Dec-2014

Hello smoke... Here's the mirror!
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http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/others/Swan-instead-of-Centaur-to-adorn-AI-building-soon/articleshow/45877013.cms

Swan, instead of Centaur, to adorn AI building soon

Jan 14, 2015

Air India's (AI) stylised red-swaninside-a-wheel logo will soon adorn its iconic former headquarters in Mumbai. The proposal for the logo was cleared by the Maharashtra Coastal Zone Management Authority (MCZMA) on Tuesday, signalling the completion of a long-drawn, seven-year integration with the Indian Airlines (IA).

Airlines director (Finance) S Venkat said the management was expediting the logo installation work and two companies have been shortlisted for the purpose. A work order will soon be issued. The new logo will be atop the building in the next six months and the project will cost an estimated Rs 1 crore. Air India occupies three floors in the building. The Centaur logo had fallen off during monsoon in 1992. It was put back but later dismantled in 2007, when AI merged with IA

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Air India Adds Delhi – Vijayawada Service from mid-Jan 2015

Air India from Thursday 15JAN15 is launching new domestic service, with daily operation on Delhi – Vijayawada route. Airbus A319 aircraft will be operating this nonstop service.

AI459 DEL0620 – 0825VGA 319 D
AI460 VGA0900 – 1105DEL 319 D


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http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/716528-business-representatives-to-start-lobbying-for-air-india-flights-to-yorkshire.html?news_section=273984#

Business representatives to start lobbying for Air India flights to Yorkshire

15th January 2015

Air India will tonight hear why it should add Yorkshire to its global destinations.

Representatives from the Yorkshire Asian Business Association (YABA) and Leeds Bradford Airport are in London to present at an event focused on collaborations with India.

The meeting, which will also hear from Cobra Beer founder and chairman Lord Bilimoria, follows on from discussions in November when the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FICCI) met with YABA in Leeds.

Tony Hallwood, aviation development director at Leeds Bradford Airport, is part of the delegation that will be lobbying to add a route that would provide a significant boost for both the airport and for international trade in the region.

Sharon Jandu, YABA's director of business development and partnerships, hopes that tonight will be the start of strategic links between Yorkshire's international airport, Air India and FICCI.

She said: "We are trying to encourage and facilitate the relationship between Air India, Leeds Bradford Airport and FICCI, which represents 200,000 Indian businesses, some of which are keen to create joint ventures or work in partnership with UK businesses."

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Locations for context: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=lhr,+bhx,+man,+lba

If the BHX route is doing well - then does it make sense for AI to tackle LBA and/or MAN as next steps? Ultimately the MEB3 have proven there's a huge demand from the mid-lands - and if much of that is headed to India, AI would be in a good position to capitalize on it. Of course is most of that traffic is headed to South East Asia/ Oz, then AI can forget about launching another flight to the midlands.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am doing BHX-DEL-MAA tonight. Will try to gather occupancy information.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
If the BHX route is doing well - then does it make sense for AI to tackle LBA and/or MAN as next steps?
Nimish, I guess we can simply take this as something that crops up from time to time. Manchester itself hasn't been on AI's radar for a while. BHX-ATQ was a politically motivated route where the Dream)liner's economics with a non-daily offering (to test the waters at the start) sprung a pleasant surprise for AI. Leeds can take in large aircraft, but even PIA discontinued LBA.
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