Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Air India News -- Part 29 Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message sri_bom Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:05 pm    Post subject: DGCA investigating reports of over-full Air India flights from Yemen: report News 21-Apr-2015 11:23 AM India's Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) is reportedly investigating reports that Air India transported more passengers on service from Yemen that the aircraft capacity permitted (Hindustan Times, 21-Apr-2015). Air India operated a series of flights under Operation Rahat from the beginning of Apr-2015 until 09-Apr-2015 with aircraft operating from Djibouti to Sanaa to rescue Indians and others. Back to top megatop747 Member Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 131 Location: now LHR / from MAA Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:14 pm    Post subject: Pilot Holds Up Flight For 3 Hours For 'Dirty' Oxygen Mask NEW DELHI: An Air India flight was delayed by three hours after its pilot refused to accept a "dirty" emergency oxygen mask and insisted for a "fresh" one before flying the plane. Air India has initiated a probe into the incident, which took place yesterday when its Kochi-bound flight from Delhi Airport was readying for take-off. The same aircraft was to fly on two other routes where too services got delayed because of the pilot's refusal to operate the flight due to "unhygienic" mask in the cockpit, an Air India official said in the national capital today. "The pilot refused to accept the dirty emergency oxygen mask in the cockpit and delayed the flight by three hours. Due to this two other flights were also delayed," the official said. "Air India has set up an enquiry into the circumstances, which led to the pilot rejecting the mask. The probe will look into the genuineness of the pilot's claim," the official said. Air India's on-time performance has in the past come into question from different quarters, forcing the government to monitor the flight operation schedule on a daily basis. The national carrier had, however, improved its on-time performance with 70 per cent of its flights departing and arriving on time from four major metropolitan cities during February as against a poor 52.1 per cent a month ago. http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pilot-refuses-dirty-oxygen-mask-in-cockpit-holds-up-flight-for-3-hours-757573?pfrom=home-lateststories Back to top ranjanmehta Member Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 108 Location: Dilli Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Pilot Holds Up Flight For 3 Hours For 'Dirty' Oxygen Mas megatop747 wrote: NEW DELHI: An Air India flight was delayed by three hours after its pilot refused to accept a "dirty" emergency oxygen mask and insisted for a "fresh" one before flying the plane. Hah! Nothing's gonna happen, the AI management does not have the balls to take action against their cowboys! Back to top jbalonso777 Member Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 1501 Location: Never, never land Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:21 am    Post subject: AI's launching a new DEL-CMB-DEL service! Its being linked with the existing AI273/4 MAA-CMB-MAA service. It starts June 15, 2015. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/c/JishnuBasu777 Back to top ryder1650 Member Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 554 Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Pilot Holds Up Flight For 3 Hours For 'Dirty' Oxygen Mas ranjanmehta wrote: megatop747 wrote: NEW DELHI: An Air India flight was delayed by three hours after its pilot refused to accept a "dirty" emergency oxygen mask and insisted for a "fresh" one before flying the plane. Hah! Nothing's gonna happen, the AI management does not have the balls to take action against their cowboys! To be fair, I can already picture a cockpit oxygen mask that is soiled by the paan masala spit of another pilot. I won't be surprised if some pilots treat the cockpit as a spitoon or trash can. Back to top Caliguy Member Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Posts: 723 Location: Los Angeles Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:09 pm    Post subject: jbalonso777 wrote: AI's launching a new DEL-CMB-DEL service! Its being linked with the existing AI273/4 MAA-CMB-MAA service. It starts June 15, 2015. I hope its feeds long/short haul connections Back to top jbalonso777 Member Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 1501 Location: Never, never land Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:25 pm    Post subject: jbalonso777 wrote: AI's launching a new DEL-CMB-DEL service! Its being linked with the existing AI273/4 MAA-CMB-MAA service. It starts June 15, 2015. Thanks to banuthev (who posted it on another forum) for putting down the revised schedules, effective June 15 2015. 1 2 X 4 5 6 7 - 12:00 - 15:35 - AI275 - DEL-CMB X X 3 X X X X - 13:30 - 17:15 - AI275 - DEL-CMB 1 2 X 4 5 6 7 - 16:35 - 17:55 - AI274 - CMB-MAA X X 3 X X X X - 18:15 - 19:35 - AI274 - CMB-MAA 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - 06:00 - 07:20 - AI273 - MAA-CMB 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - 08:20 - 12:05 - AI276 - CMB-DEL edit - all flights operated by A321s. I believe these are 2 different rotations. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/c/JishnuBasu777 Back to top abhijith16 Member Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 1575 Location: DOH/IXE/MEL Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:34 pm    Post subject: Caliguy wrote: jbalonso777 wrote: AI's launching a new DEL-CMB-DEL service! Its being linked with the existing AI273/4 MAA-CMB-MAA service. It starts June 15, 2015. I hope its feeds long/short haul connections Feeds LHR/CDG/FRA/MXP/FCO/BHX bothways and SYD/MEL oneway _________________ <a><img></a> Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:59 pm    Post subject: jbalonso777 wrote: ... abhijith16 wrote: Feeds LHR/CDG/FRA/MXP/FCO/BHX bothways and SYD/MEL oneway Interesting addition: looks like some good thinking about loads and capacity, and of course, using the DEL hub connections well. Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top saravanan92 Member Joined: 19 Sep 2014 Posts: 13 Location: Stockholm, Helsinki, Chennai Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:52 am    Post subject: AI CMB addition jbalonso777 wrote: jbalonso777 wrote: AI's launching a new DEL-CMB-DEL service! Its being linked with the existing AI273/4 MAA-CMB-MAA service. It starts June 15, 2015. Thanks to banuthev (who posted it on another forum) for putting down the revised schedules, effective June 15 2015. 1 2 X 4 5 6 7 - 12:00 - 15:35 - AI275 - DEL-CMB X X 3 X X X X - 13:30 - 17:15 - AI275 - DEL-CMB 1 2 X 4 5 6 7 - 16:35 - 17:55 - AI274 - CMB-MAA X X 3 X X X X - 18:15 - 19:35 - AI274 - CMB-MAA 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - 06:00 - 07:20 - AI273 - MAA-CMB 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - 08:20 - 12:05 - AI276 - CMB-DEL edit - all flights operated by A321s. I believe these are 2 different rotations. But this seems like AI is gonna base one more A321 at MAA. As far as I can see with their schedules, there are 3 A321s departing MAA one at 05:00 to IXZ, at 06:00 to CMB, and at 06:40 to DEL. Usually the one that does MAA-IXZ-MAA does CMB run as MAA-IXZ-MAA-CMB-MAA-DEL-MAA-DXB-MAA in day1 and MAA-DEL-MAA-DEL-MAA-DEL-MAA in day2, the other aircraft does the other way around. So if the new aircraft is stationed at MAA then it lies idle from 17:00/19:00 till 06:00 and the other one from IXZ 11:00 till 18:00. Given that AI wont be happy having their narrow body member idle, can we expect new destinations from MAA. Coz I dont think they are gonna axe MAA-IXZ-MAA which has been flying for ages(the schedules dont reflect any changes). But I also fear that they might as they are ready to sacrifice other stations for DEL/BOM the way they did kill the golden goose night departure AI346/347 MAA-SIN-MAA. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: AI CMB addition saravanan92 wrote: But this seems like AI is gonna base one more A321 at MAA. This is an interesting analysis, Saravanan, and it is nice to see you on the forum also, after quite a while! saravanan92 wrote: Coz I dont think they are gonna axe MAA-IXZ-MAA which has been flying for ages I'm assuming a `no', since IXZ's connectivity has typically been via MAA, and the CCU one, with the newer CR7 rotation via BBI, to cater to the demand/traffic. sarvanan92 wrote: ...they did kill the golden goose night departure AI346/347 MAA-SIN-MAA. As an aside Saravanan, would you know how the revised timing ops of AI 346/347 are doing, on the Dream)liner? Was this done to optimise the Dream)liner usage to include this route? The current timings would have passengers reach SIN in the late afternoon, and depart from SIN in the morning, for MAA. Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top saravanan92 Member Joined: 19 Sep 2014 Posts: 13 Location: Stockholm, Helsinki, Chennai Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: AI CMB addition sumantra wrote: saravanan92 wrote: But this seems like AI is gonna base one more A321 at MAA. This is an interesting analysis, Saravanan, and it is nice to see you on the forum also, after quite a while! saravanan92 wrote: Coz I dont think they are gonna axe MAA-IXZ-MAA which has been flying for ages I'm assuming a `no', since IXZ's connectivity has typically been via MAA, and the CCU one, with the newer CR7 rotation via BBI, to cater to the demand/traffic. sarvanan92 wrote: ...they did kill the golden goose night departure AI346/347 MAA-SIN-MAA. As an aside Saravanan, would you know how the revised timing ops of AI 346/347 are doing, on the Dream)liner? Was this done to optimise the Dream)liner usage to include this route? The current timings would have passengers reach SIN in the late afternoon, and depart from SIN in the morning, for MAA. Cheers, Sumantra. Hi Sir! thank you. Good to be back. I was away quite some time busy with my assignments and projects yet to write my trip report on AI CDG-MAA-CDG and AI FCO-MAA-FCO through DEL. I hope I can do it next week but I can't post images I presume, had to be an active member for that someone can help me out in that regard. and regarding the re-scheduled AI346/347, my dad once told me that it wasn't doing that good long back(I think it was end of last year when he told me).I guess they even made it 4 weekly last month and early this month. 9W pulled out its afternoon departure now. so I think it should be doing good now. My dad works in the domestic terminal though, so not much idea about the international routes. The one I take usually MAA-DEL-MAA AI 143/142 is always fully loaded. And regarding the re-scheduling, I dont think its just for increased dreamliner usage, I guess AI wants to compete with SQ hence one-stop option is not always so attractive even if the Dream)Liner Tag goes besides. But I guess nowadays the big ME3 are gaining strength. People dont choose SQ/MH/TG even CX anylonger for US connections. One of my friends did MAA-DXB-SFO. I asked him why choose it, he replies who goes to Hongkong its boring. Apparently he said atleast 20-30 pax did the same MAA-DXB-SFO. sO Its just the O&D traffic now to SIN! Back to top sri_bom Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:04 pm    Post subject: Air India Express offers free baggage allowance on service from UAE until 31-May-2015 News 27-Apr-2015 12:13 PM Air India Express said it is now offering 30kg free baggage allowance on all services between India and the UAE until 31-May-2015 (Khaleej Times, 25-Apr-2015). All passengers will be eligible for 30kg Free Baggage Allowance (FBA) irrespective of the ticketing date. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: AI CMB addition saravanan92 wrote: yet to write my trip report on AI CDG-MAA-CDG and AI FCO-MAA-FCO through DEL. I hope I can do it next week but I can't post images I presume, had to be an active member for that Saravanan, I believe that with a few posts in a few discussions, you are well past the old threshold of 5, and the newer one of 10, IIRC. Anyway, we look forward to your post the next week. A few replies here and there will get your tally up fast. More so, since the insights you can give us with your father being in AI, will be highly refreshing! saravanan92 wrote: and regarding the re-scheduled AI346/347, my dad once told me that it wasn't doing that good long back(I think it was end of last year when he told me).I guess they even made it 4 weekly last month and early this month. 9W pulled out its afternoon departure now. so I think it should be doing good now. The earlier timings (more so, the legacy IC 555 timings) suited the carrier well, on this low yield high demand route, which did well for the carrier. Even with the A332s, they did quite well till this change in the timings. Route rationalisation at 9W perhaps took their flight out. AI was trying Dream)liners to quite a few international destinations with a view to take on the competition with a decent hard product, and improved soft product, but sometimes markets take a while to develop, and AI has actually lost quite a bit on some bullish ventures, though they have tried to hold their reins with regard to many more routes: consolidation, before expansion. saravanan92 wrote: The one I take usually MAA-DEL-MAA AI 143/142 is always fully loaded. Yes, these, along with the AI 042/043 international connectors do quite well for AI. It has a good mix of international connecting passengers, and purely domestic passengers. I have travelled as the latter purely to experience the flights saravanan92 wrote: But I guess nowadays the big ME3 are gaining strength. Yes, indeed: they rule! And for many good reasons as well, perhaps they deserve their success, as well. Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top sri_bom Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:40 pm    Post subject: Air India pilot involved in altercation resumes duty News 28-Apr-2015 10:56 AM India's Minister of State for Civil Aviation Mahesh Sharma confirmed an Air India commander, who was involved in a minor altercation with a co-pilot on 05-Apr-2015, resumed flying duty after undergoing a course in cockpit resource management (PTI, 27-Apr-2015). Mr Sharma said that following the incident, "The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) advised the commander and co-pilot to undergo Cockpit Resource Management (CRM) course/prescribed training before they are assigned for flying duties again". He continued: "The commander has resumed flying duty on April 10, 2015 after having undergone CRM course". Back to top iah87 Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 2566 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:27 am    Post subject: http://www.flyertalk.com/story/intoxicated-man-destroys-seat-threatens-fellow-flyers-after-crew-refuses-to-serve-him-alcohol.html I did not know that AI would even serve alcohol on a flight from Riyadh, where alcohol is banned. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:32 am    Post subject: iah87 wrote: I did not know that AI would even serve alcohol on a flight from Riyadh, where alcohol is banned. Why should it be prevented in-flight? At Indian airports, serving of alcohol on the ground on international flights is not permitted, but it is served in the air. Off-topic: it is the behaviour of such person which the Air India crew constantly fears. Air India aircraft suffer from damage to the insides even by non-inebriated passengers. The behaviour of the same people on board other airlines is quite different. Being a regular Air India flyer, I have been a horrified witness to many such cases, of the second kind, when the same passengers transferred to/from a different airline, which I was on, as well. And this damage happens much faster than the damage control/repair operations, since often the aircraft is needed back in service, quickly. Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top The_Goat Member Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:46 am    Post subject: iah87 wrote: http://www.flyertalk.com/story/intoxicated-man-destroys-seat-threatens-fellow-flyers-after-crew-refuses-to-serve-him-alcohol.html I did not know that AI would even serve alcohol on a flight from Riyadh, where alcohol is banned. Yet another miscreant from Kozhikode. The pax from there are the worst species on earth, according to many reports. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes). -Jasepl Back to top justbala Member Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 1898 Location: Bangalore Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:21 am    Post subject: What does the union representative mean by the flight being "under-staffed"? Back to top ranjanmehta Member Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 108 Location: Dilli Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:29 am    Post subject: iah87 wrote: I did not know that AI would even serve alcohol on a flight from Riyadh, where alcohol is banned. In-flight serving of alcohol is allowed until you enter and leave the Saudi airspace. justbala wrote: What does the union representative mean by the flight being "under-staffed"? The flight must've been sent with the minimum number of crew required for evacuation purposes. For service and other emergency situations like these, additional crew may be required. Back to top iah87 Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 2566 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:32 pm    Post subject: ranjanmehta wrote: iah87 wrote: I did not know that AI would even serve alcohol on a flight from Riyadh, where alcohol is banned. In-flight serving of alcohol is allowed until you enter and leave the Saudi airspace. I flew from Riyadh to Mumbai on AI last year (connecting from Cairo by Egypt Air) and the FAs mentioned to me that alcohol will not be served on this flight (it was morning departure at RUH). Back to top theflyingsikh Member Joined: 08 May 2010 Posts: 551 Location: United Kingdom Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:48 am    Post subject: New Air India commercial https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NNmNBFtj7HQ One word - TACKY! _________________ Aerosexual...! Back to top Jaysit Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346 Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:13 am    Post subject: theflyingsikh wrote: New Air India commercial https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NNmNBFtj7HQ One word - TACKY! Cute ad with cute desi dude. Even the models they've hired to play FAs look good, and make those new hideous uniforms look good. Even the presentation of the "khaana" looks good. In reality, cute desi dude is likely to be a fat babu picking his nose, pretty FA is likely to be a grumpy AI aunty, and the presentation of the food likely to be closer to Y. Back to top The_Goat Member Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:58 am    Post subject: I don't think it is tacky, but wouldn't say it is a good ad either. A good ad has to show more of the product. This one is all about an Indophile of Western origin singing India's praises in front of a somewhat boorish and skeptical Indian co-passenger, with a bit of AI thrown in. There is nothing in the ad that would tempt a potential customer to choose Air India over say, Emirates for his/her next trip to India. There is too much of emphasis on 'Indian Warmth', and one need not travel on AI to experience that. Quite the contrary, in fact. And they should remove the 'Proud to be Indian' bit if they are showing it outside India. It is somewhat redundant. If AI isn't 'proud to be Indian' who else will be? Tatarstan Airlines? _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes). -Jasepl Back to top Jaysit Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346 Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:10 pm    Post subject: The_Goat wrote: This one is all about an Indophile of Western origin singing India's praises in front of a somewhat boorish and skeptical Indian co-passenger, with a bit of AI thrown in. LOL, well put! Frankly, I saw this with the volume turned off. Wasn't interested in hearing clownish firang sell desi dude on the usual "I love exotic India" babble. Back to top ranjanmehta Member Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 108 Location: Dilli Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:02 am    Post subject: iah87 wrote: ranjanmehta wrote: iah87 wrote: I did not know that AI would even serve alcohol on a flight from Riyadh, where alcohol is banned. In-flight serving of alcohol is allowed until you enter and leave the Saudi airspace. I flew from Riyadh to Mumbai on AI last year (connecting from Cairo by Egypt Air) and the FAs mentioned to me that alcohol will not be served on this flight (it was morning departure at RUH). I wonder why! Did they tell you the reason? Could it be because of the timing of the flight? Back to top iah87 Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 2566 Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:03 am    Post subject: Yes, because of the timing. I was not very much interested in alcohol anyway at that time, but asked just out of curiosity. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:36 am    Post subject: Jaysit wrote: The_Goat wrote: This one is all about an Indophile of Western origin singing India's praises in front of a somewhat boorish and skeptical Indian co-passenger, with a bit of AI thrown in. LOL, well put! Whole-heartedly agree with you, very well summarised with brevity of word. Indeed, there is little of the product. However still, it is a good step in the right direction, as opposed to not having any advertisement at all. The hard product isn't that un-contemporary even today. The frequency of repairs leaves much to be desired (given the higher frequency of unruly passengers damaging items within an arm's reach, and beyond), but thankfully, things also do happen. Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top Caliguy Member Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Posts: 723 Location: Los Angeles Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:26 pm    Post subject: I feel like the ad is still targeting indians living abroad with the usual - warmth, indian food - i.e. safe to send your parents back home in (except that they use a foreigner to imply look even a white guy likes us). Rather than go empty AI should have a senior citizen 90 day advance purchase J class discount fare. There a loads of people that would pay $2500 to $3000 for J to India for their parents. Back to top Blueman Member Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Posts: 3 Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 1:23 pm    Post subject: Leeds Bradford Airport are still trying to tempt Air India but it remains to be seen if the airfield there is conducive for 787 ops to DEL. Quote: There is also ongoing work to persuade Air India to choose Leeds Bradford Airport as the location for direct flights to the north of the UK. Tony Hallwood from Leeds Bradford Airport was present to give his backing to that medium-term goal, while also highlighting that it can currently be done with just one change, currently the same as Manchester Airport. Read the full arctle here http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/721009-action-taken-to-boost-low-number-of-indian-businesses-operating-across-city-region.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Yorkshire_27th_Apr_2015_-_Daily_E-mail Back to top The_Goat Member Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 1:53 pm    Post subject: iah87 wrote: I flew from Riyadh to Mumbai on AI last year (connecting from Cairo by Egypt Air) and the FAs mentioned to me that alcohol will not be served on this flight (it was morning departure at RUH). Interesting. How was the transit in RUH? Did you require any Saudi transit visa? I have considered flying SV from Europe to India. It seems like a good way to top up my Skyteam miles. I don't have any problem with the lack of booze, but am a bit apprehensive about the transit halt at RUH. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes). -Jasepl Back to top iah87 Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 2566 Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:03 pm    Post subject: The_Goat wrote: iah87 wrote: I flew from Riyadh to Mumbai on AI last year (connecting from Cairo by Egypt Air) and the FAs mentioned to me that alcohol will not be served on this flight (it was morning departure at RUH). Interesting. How was the transit in RUH? Did you require any Saudi transit visa? I have considered flying SV from Europe to India. It seems like a good way to top up my Skyteam miles. I don't have any problem with the lack of booze, but am a bit apprehensive about the transit halt at RUH. I was bit apprehensive too, but I did not require a transit visa, however there is no automatic baggage transfer if connecting from different airlines at RUH even though it is ticketed as a through ticket (Egypt to AI). There may be automatic baggage transfer if connecting Saudia to Saudia. We were the only transit passengers to BOM, apparently one has to go to the usual transit area (almost all go to baggage claim), contact Saudi ground services for baggage transfer and this department also gives you the onward boarding passes to BOM. Make sure you have enough time for all this, need at least 120 minutes for this to happen. I will probably avoid this in the future. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:03 pm    Post subject: iah87 wrote: I however there is no automatic baggage transfer if connecting from different airlines at RUH even though it is ticketed as a through ticket (Egypt to AI). I suspect that they do not interline, and your one itinerary may have been on two separate tickets, or a similar incompatible configuration. If they interline, even having different tickets should not be an issue. I have benefited from this in the past. iah87 wrote: I will probably avoid this in the future. Avoid `this': I fervently hope that this does not extend to writing an appropriate trip report, as well! You have had a rather exotic routing: we would love to read the complete TR, even if you do not put in any pictures. I am actually surprised: a knowledgeable person as you, with such a regular presence on the CivAv thread, has an incommensurate presence on the TRs section. Expectantly, Sumantra. Back to top iah87 Member Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 2566 Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject: sumantra wrote: iah87 wrote: I however there is no automatic baggage transfer if connecting from different airlines at RUH even though it is ticketed as a through ticket (Egypt to AI). I suspect that they do not interline, and your one itinerary may have been on two separate tickets, or a similar incompatible configuration. If they interline, even having different tickets should not be an issue. I have benefited from this in the past. iah87 wrote: I will probably avoid this in the future. Avoid `this': I fervently hope that this does not extend to writing an appropriate trip report, as well! You have had a rather exotic routing: we would love to read the complete TR, even if you do not put in any pictures. I am actually surprised: a knowledgeable person as you, with such a regular presence on the CivAv thread, has an incommensurate presence on the TRs section. Expectantly, Sumantra. I was on a Star Alliance United ticket from MAN to BOM via Cairo. I wanted to visit Cairo for a day to see the pyramids. My original Egypt Air flight from Cairo to BOM (overnight flight) was cancelled a few days ago. I called United and they put me through Riyadh on Egypt Air/AI flight, fortunately in the same terminal at RUH. Will right a TR soon, did not take any pictures, not sure about security issues at Cairo or Riyadh. Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 9:55 pm    Post subject: iah87 wrote: Will right a TR soon That is music to my ears! This is one exotic routing, and we would love to read about your experiences! Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top luvleen Member Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Bombay Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:36 am    Post subject: Air India Said Talking to Airbus for $1.5 Billion Jet Order Quote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-07/air-india-said-in-talks-with-airbus-for-1-5-billion-jet-order Its for A320neos.. My first reaction on reading this title was that AI may be opting for A380s.. Thank the dear Lord they haven't.. Last edited by luvleen on Fri May 08, 2015 2:39 am; edited 1 time in total Back to top luvleen Member Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Bombay Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:37 am    Post subject: Air India may add 4-5 new European destinations, opt for bigger aircraft Quote: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/air-india-may-add-4-5-new-european-destinations-opt-bigger-aircraft-2232842.html Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:36 am    Post subject: luvleen wrote: http://www.firstpost.com/P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S/air-india-may-add-4-5-new-european-destinations-opt-bigger-aircraft-2232842.html My first reaction on reading the above URL is highlighted above, but then, we've discussed this before Cheers, Sumantra. Back to top ranjanmehta Member Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 108 Location: Dilli Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject: Why do I get the feeling that there's no proper thought given to route planning in Air India? Their revenue from the domestic market is on the rise, yet they are hell bent on experimenting with new international routes that are not expected to bring in the cash. Instead of converting their 787s into 9 series, shouldn't they use the extra money to consolidate domestic ops? If they HAVE to spend extra on aircrafts, wouldn't buying A320 neos be much more rational? Is it political pressure from babus that forces them to make unreal decisions? Back to top sumantra Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:58 pm    Post subject: Similar exasperation from a fellow regular Air India traveller? ranjanmehta wrote: Is it political pressure from babus that forces them to make unreal decisions? Often yes. ranjanmehta wrote: Their revenue from the domestic market is on the rise and significantly better OTP as well, in addition to an up in many other pleasant parameters. ranjanmehta wrote: yet they are hell bent on experimenting with new international routes They have not been that bullish on new routes. Instead, they have consolidated many routes, and not just sprayed on destinations for international expansion. They have been quite guarded, in fact. Many international routes take some while to consolidate after a start: point in question: the regional Dream)liner routes, and one look at whom they are competing with, may indicate why it may be too early still, to pull back. Things can get better. ranjanmehta wrote: Instead of converting their 787s into 9 series, shouldn't they use the extra money to consolidate domestic ops? If they HAVE to spend extra on aircrafts, wouldn't buying A320 neos be much more rational? The conversion of the B788 orders to the B789 will do AI a lot of good, in better utilisation of taxpayers' money. the economy offered by the B789 with the range, and the capacity, is a worthwhile goal, IMHO. Given AI's share of problems being one of the first B788 customers, Boeing may give AI a very sweet deal. The taxpayer will not mind this. Second, the new all-Y A320s look well on track, and I guess the NEOs will also come in at some point in time. AI needs them on the domestic high-demand-low-returns routes. Cheers, Sumantra. 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