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Some statistical info on the first seven months of AI's Australia runs. Interestingly, AI only carries cargo on the inbound sector
1) August 2013 -
a) LF:- Inbound - 82.2%, Outbound 82.2% (2 flights in that month)
b) Freight:- NIL
2) September 2013 -
a) LF:- Inbound - 78.6%, Outbound - 67.1%
b) Freight:- 31.1 tonnes
3) October 2013:-
a) LF:- Inbound - 78.9%, Outbound - 67.9%
b) Freight:- 47.7 tonnes
4) November 2013:-
a) LF:- Inbound - 63.1%, Outbound - 74.2%
b) Freight:- 114.8 tonnes
5) December 2013:-
a) LF:- Inbound - 81.2%, Outbound - 93.6%
b) Freight:- 117.8 tonnes
6) January 2014:-
a) LF:- Inbound - 89.6%, Outbound - 87.8%
b) Freight:- 120.5 tonnes
7) February 2014:-
a) LF:- Inbound - 86.4%, Outbound - 69.4%
b) Freight:- 165.1 tonnes
Average LF:- Inbound - 80%, Outbound - 77.45%
Source:- BITRE Australia
Thoughts?
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very interesting figures, thanks a lot.
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If these are the load factors, then this flight is doing pretty well. Average LF of 80% means that it is making money for sure.
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Air India Express's CCO Tara Naidu talks about IX's current strategy and expansion plans
http://bcove.me/7fhivz29
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and Ladies and Gentlemen, for the zillionth time.....
http://www.ausbt.com.au/air-india-to-join-star-alliance-in-july
Air India is set to formally join the Star Alliance family in July.
Star Alliance CEO Mark Schwab confirmed the timeline on a visit to India this week to lay the groundwork for Air India's admission into the group, saying that "The precise date is yet to be decided but it will be in July."
Air India is working through the final stages of its checklist for entry into Star Alliance, reports The Economic Times, with most of what remains being integration of Air India's IT network into the Star Alliance system.
"There are also a few commercial agreements that need to be signed with other member airlines relating to codeshares, but Air India is already in the advanced stages of those discussions," Schwab added.
The official 'endorsement vote' from the CEOs of Star Alliance's 26 other member airline is expected to take place at an alliance membership gathering in London on June 23.
I won't hold my breath, and won't believe till I see it.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Mumbai-civic-body-hoarding-forces-AI-flight-to-shed-flyers/articleshow/34495868.cms
Mumbai civic body hoarding forces AI flight to ‘shed’ flyers
May 1, 2014
The national carrier faces many hurdles, but one that pinched it hard in the past few months was a hoarding near the Mumbai airport. If Air India officials are to be believed, the airline had to 'shed' as many as 20 passengers on each of its ultra-long Mumbai-Newark flight.
The reason: the BMC had erected a massive billboard which had imposed this "load penalty" on AI. In simple terms, the aircraft had to fly light in order to ascend in time to clear this hurdle.
The Mumbai-Newark flight, which flies daily, is the longest out of Mumbai and is operated on the Boeing 777-300 extended range (ER) aircraft. Being an almost 17-hour-flight, it is filled with fuel to capacity. So, in order to clear the hoarding, AI had to offload excess weight in the form of flyers and their baggage.
"We had taken up this issue with the civic body for a long time. Finally, the billboard was removed only recently. There was a load penalty of 20 passengers on each flight," said a top AI official.
However, other sources said that the Mumbai-Newark is not always full, and that conditions like wind speed and direction too impact the 'load penalty'.
AI earlier used the Boeing 777-200 long range (LR) version for the Mumbai-Newark flight. This plane was such a fuel-guzzler that AI was forced to ground the entire lot and try to sell them off. It later started using the B 777-300 (ER) plane for the flight.
"The 200 LR was a loss-making flight for us. The ER version has for the first time made Mumbai-Newark a profitable route for us. However, the billboard meant we could not carry full load. It was removed after a protracted dialogue with the BMC," said an official. |
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| Quite funny how Air Traffic Mgmt Authority like AAI and Safety watchdog like DGCA aren't even involved in this discussion, and who should be the ones having a say in any issue concerning the 'Funnel' areas for all Runways in a city like BOM where the Airport is right in the middle of the city. While they have to authorize any new high rise bldg constructions in the funnel zones, ideally, they should be also involved in giving permissions for any temporary structures as well. AFAIK, Housing societies are now a days actively looking at erecting temporary/permanent hoardings to offset Society and Bldg Maintenance Costs. |
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http://www.ptinews.com/news/4666690_AI-to-brings-Bhuj-on-its-network-from-May-15-.html
AI to brings Bhuj on its network from May 15
May 2
The national carrier Air India will bring Bhuj on its domestic network connecting the Kutch city with Mumbai from May 15.
The flight will be operated by Alliance Air, the wholly owned subsidiary of Air India, on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays, Air India said in a statement today.
The erstwhile Indian Airlines used to operate flights to Bhuj. |
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| 747-237 wrote: | http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Mumbai-civic-body-hoarding-forces-AI-flight-to-shed-flyers/articleshow/34495868.cms
Mumbai civic body hoarding forces AI flight to ‘shed’ flyers
May 1, 2014
The national carrier faces many hurdles, but one that pinched it hard in the past few months was a hoarding near the Mumbai airport. If Air India officials are to be believed, the airline had to 'shed' as many as 20 passengers on each of its ultra-long Mumbai-Newark flight.
The reason: the BMC had erected a massive billboard which had imposed this "load penalty" on AI. In simple terms, the aircraft had to fly light in order to ascend in time to clear this hurdle.
The Mumbai-Newark flight, which flies daily, is the longest out of Mumbai and is operated on the Boeing 777-300 extended range (ER) aircraft. Being an almost 17-hour-flight, it is filled with fuel to capacity. So, in order to clear the hoarding, AI had to offload excess weight in the form of flyers and their baggage.
"We had taken up this issue with the civic body for a long time. Finally, the billboard was removed only recently. There was a load penalty of 20 passengers on each flight," said a top AI official.
However, other sources said that the Mumbai-Newark is not always full, and that conditions like wind speed and direction too impact the 'load penalty'.
AI earlier used the Boeing 777-200 long range (LR) version for the Mumbai-Newark flight. This plane was such a fuel-guzzler that AI was forced to ground the entire lot and try to sell them off. It later started using the B 777-300 (ER) plane for the flight.
"The 200 LR was a loss-making flight for us. The ER version has for the first time made Mumbai-Newark a profitable route for us. However, the billboard meant we could not carry full load. It was removed after a protracted dialogue with the BMC," said an official. |
United flies the same route, did it have to take a load penalty too. UA would have raised hell or stop the flights altogether and get this thing cleared. |
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| iah87 wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Mumbai-civic-body-hoarding-forces-AI-flight-to-shed-flyers/articleshow/34495868.cms
Mumbai civic body hoarding forces AI flight to ‘shed’ flyers
May 1, 2014
The national carrier faces many hurdles, but one that pinched it hard in the past few months was a hoarding near the Mumbai airport. If Air India officials are to be believed, the airline had to 'shed' as many as 20 passengers on each of its ultra-long Mumbai-Newark flight.
The reason: the BMC had erected a massive billboard which had imposed this "load penalty" on AI. In simple terms, the aircraft had to fly light in order to ascend in time to clear this hurdle.
The Mumbai-Newark flight, which flies daily, is the longest out of Mumbai and is operated on the Boeing 777-300 extended range (ER) aircraft. Being an almost 17-hour-flight, it is filled with fuel to capacity. So, in order to clear the hoarding, AI had to offload excess weight in the form of flyers and their baggage.
"We had taken up this issue with the civic body for a long time. Finally, the billboard was removed only recently. There was a load penalty of 20 passengers on each flight," said a top AI official.
However, other sources said that the Mumbai-Newark is not always full, and that conditions like wind speed and direction too impact the 'load penalty'.
AI earlier used the Boeing 777-200 long range (LR) version for the Mumbai-Newark flight. This plane was such a fuel-guzzler that AI was forced to ground the entire lot and try to sell them off. It later started using the B 777-300 (ER) plane for the flight.
"The 200 LR was a loss-making flight for us. The ER version has for the first time made Mumbai-Newark a profitable route for us. However, the billboard meant we could not carry full load. It was removed after a protracted dialogue with the BMC," said an official. |
United flies the same route, did it have to take a load penalty too. UA would have raised hell or stop the flights altogether and get this thing cleared. |
actually, at MTOW, the 77E (MTOW - 294 Tons, Thrust - 99000 lbsX2) has a power to weight ratio of 673.46 lbs/ton, while the 77W (MTOW - 354 (-2) Tons, Thrust 115000 lbsX2) will have a power to weight ratio of 649 lbs/Ton, hence the 77E will sufficiently cross the required climb gradient due to a higher P-W ratio, even if you reduce the MTOW of the 77W by 2 Tons (~20 Pax).
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For an airline that's struggling to pay employee salaries, this one is a strange move. Another one of those commission gobbling scams, is it? |
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| ranjanmehta wrote: |
For an airline that's struggling to pay employee salaries, this one is a strange move. Another one of those commission gobbling scams, is it? |
That choice of carpet is hideous, though the upholstery is a million times worse.
But what they could do, is spend a few hundred crore developing this proprietary carpet, which may look a little different than the current one, but in all other aspects, including hideousness, it will be the same.
"Spend" some more taxpayer money in buying this new carpet ans installing it on all planes.
Then, after 4 months, declare the feedback was negative, so they're going back to the old carpet.
Of course, by then the old would have been sold, so time to spend even more money to buy the the new old carpets all over again.
It is also entirely possible that AI are onto something here. After all, it's a known fact that the JetRosen brings the pax to the plane, so why can't, why can't AI do the same? 
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Is AI having significant maintenance troubles with their fleet of ex-IC double bogied A320s? Mom's friend was supposed to take a KWI-AMD-HYD-MAA flight last week only to have the aircraft taxi back to KWI after galloping past a few feet on the runway. That flight was delayed by a good 26 hours coming in, though AI did provide a hotel in the terminal.
Mom's flight (which came in from VTZ I think) was similarly delayed by 4 hours due to technical troubles a couple of days later going into KWI via GOI.
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| me111993 wrote: | | actually, at MTOW, the 77E (MTOW - 294 Tons, Thrust - 99000 lbsX2) has a power to weight ratio of 673.46 lbs/ton, while the 77W (MTOW - 354 (-2) Tons, Thrust 115000 lbsX2) will have a power to weight ratio of 649 lbs/Ton, hence the 77E will sufficiently cross the required climb gradient due to a higher P-W ratio, even if you reduce the MTOW of the 77W by 2 Tons (~20 Pax). |
Just adding to this (not that your conclusion may be wrong) but the power to weight ratio isn't necessarily an indicator of climb gradient.
::edit:: I screwed up the numbers 😜 sorry
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| 747-237 wrote: | Air India starts Rome & Milan tentatively w.e.f. 1st June 2014.
Delhi-Rome and Delhi-Milan flights from 6 June.
Delhi-Rome-Milan three days a week and Delhi-Milan-Rome the next three days. |
Why does AI insist on this triangular service? AI cannot carry passengers FCO-MXP v.v. I cannot think of too many airlines doing this.
Can someone explain the pros and cons of a triangular service?
Thanks in advance.
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| Devesh wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | Air India starts Rome & Milan tentatively w.e.f. 1st June 2014.
Delhi-Rome and Delhi-Milan flights from 6 June.
Delhi-Rome-Milan three days a week and Delhi-Milan-Rome the next three days. |
Why does AI insist on this triangular service? AI cannot carry passengers FCO-MXP v.v. I cannot think of too many airlines doing this.
Can someone explain the pros and cons of a triangular service?
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Maybe they miss the milk runs too much? Hhah!
Whilst AI do seem to hold onto a penchant for these sort of routings, they aren't the worst idea to come out of Nariman Point.
Of course, dedicated flights are better, but triangulars are the next best thing, especially in the absence of local carriage rights.
In this case, AI can sell
- DEL-MXP
- DEL-FCO
- MXP-DEL
- FCO-DEL
Depending on the day, any of these could involve a stop. But it is possible (though unlikely) to keep the plane full. The same deal with the Australia flights.
Compare with their totally retarded Washington flight, which was a tag, so there was no possibility of anyone flying JFK-IAD unless they originated in India.
That said, what does stand out is the consistency in timings, aircraft, flight numbers, frequency and product. Just a few years ago, we likely would have seen:
Monday - AI 161 // BOM-DEL-HKG-BHX-MXP-FCO-KWI-BOM-DEL // 744 (Korean) // dep 01h00
Wednesday AI 164 // - CCU-DEL-BOM-CDG-MXP-FCO-DMM-DEL-BOM // 310 // dep 15h30
Thursday - AI 165 // DEL-BOM-KWI-FCO-GVA-FJR-BOM-MAA // 744 (Korean, maybe IFE) // dep 06h00
Friday - AI 165 // AMD-BOM-LHR-MXP-FCO-BOM-DEL // 310 // dep 11h00
Saturday - AI 163 // AMD-BOM-DMM-LHR-MXP-BOM-DEL // 744 // dep 01h00
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The triangular runs are the next best thing as jasepl pointed out. SYD-MEL and FCO - MXP are going to be delinked gradually once more nightmareliners join the fleet. So with the existing frames, 1 aircraft can connect 2 points and yet mainting the connectivity at DEL.
Besides, not that AI is flooded with business travelers. With good pricing and decent product not many would care for the brief stopover in the plane itself. |
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| avbuff wrote: | The triangular runs are the next best thing as jasepl pointed out. SYD-MEL and FCO - MXP are going to be delinked gradually once more nightmareliners join the fleet. So with the existing frames, 1 aircraft can connect 2 points and yet mainting the connectivity at DEL.
Besides, not that AI is flooded with business travelers. With good pricing and decent product not many would care for the brief stopover in the plane itself. |
The only issue I can spot is that the cabin is only cleaned once upfront in the journey - at DEL, and again only after it gets back to the base. I'm sure it can't be fun flying that long last leg back to DEL inside a cabin that's witnessed over a dozen hours of travel without much more than some basic vacuuming by the cleaning crew at the intermediate points on the journey - MEL/SYD/FCO/MXP.
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| Spiderguy252 wrote: |
The only issue I can spot is that the cabin is only cleaned once upfront in the journey - at DEL, and again only after it gets back to the base. I'm sure it can't be fun flying that long last leg back to DEL inside a cabin that's witnessed over a dozen hours of travel without much more than some basic vacuuming by the cleaning crew at the intermediate points on the journey - MEL/SYD/FCO/MXP. |
The average Y traveller on AI doesn't care too much about cleanliness, particularly the on the kabootar oriented flights to places like FCO, MXP, SYD, MEL and BHX.
AI is pretty much the Indian Railways Sleeper Class with wings.
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| Spiderguy252 wrote: | | The only issue I can spot is that the cabin is only cleaned once upfront in the journey - at DEL, and again only after it gets back to the base. I'm sure it can't be fun flying that long last leg back to DEL inside a cabin that's witnessed over a dozen hours of travel without much more than some basic vacuuming by the cleaning crew at the intermediate points on the journey - MEL/SYD/FCO/MXP. |
Not necessarily.
This was in the past - and I don't know what AI's current procedures are - but I've been on enough AI flights through London and Paris to have experienced one of the following:
1. Everyone exits and the plane is services
2. Those continuing on the next leg stay on the plane whilst the service and security teams board and do their thing
Typically, everyone would exit the plane if the flight was on time. And we would stay on board if the flight was late. This being AI, the latter was almost always the case
Either way, the cabin and toilets were serviced, without exception.
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Servicing is carried out after a fixed duration after a longer flight from outside.Cleaning of the interiors is done time permitting.
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Was it an emergency landing or a priority landing......A windshield crack would be priority unless there was a leak.
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http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/air-india-invites-bid-to-renew-insurance-for-105-aircraft-fleet-114051401168_1.html
Air India invites bid to renew insurance for 105-aircraft fleet
May 14, 2014
Air India today invited bids from Indian companies for renewal of insurance for its entire 105- aircraft fleet worth a whopping nine billion US dollars, even as it is in the process of acquiring the remaining 13 of the 27 Dreamliners it has ordered.
The bids, invited from Indian insurance firms on stand- alone basis or as a consortium, would have to be submitted by June four, officials of the national carrier said here.
The process has begun now in order to firm up the companies which would provide the insurance cover for the fleet which is due for renewal from October one, they said.
The Finance Ministry has made it clear that there would be no purchase preference support given to public sector insurance companies in order to provide a level-playing field to their private counterparts who bid for Air India's fleet.
The 105-aircraft fleet would be covered by insurance for aviation risk, hull all risk and hull war risk among other areas, they said.
Aviation insurance coverage is geared specifically for operation of aircraft and the risks involved in the sector. Such policies are distinctly different from those for other areas of transportation on various counts. Hull risk insurance deals with any damage to the body of the aircraft caused by an accident.
War risk insurance covers damage due to acts of war, like invasion, insurrection, rebellion and hijacking. Some policies also cover damage due to weapons of mass destruction, which is most commonly used in shipping and aviation industries.
War risk insurance policies for aircraft were cancelled in the US after the September 11, 2001 terror strikes but later reinstated. In the wake of this cancellation, the US government set up a terror insurance programme to cover commercial airlines. |
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http://www.financialexpress.com/news/air-india-to-complete-star-alliance-integration-this-week/1250971
Air India to complete Star Alliance integration this week
May 15 2014
State-run carrier Air India will complete all the necessary requirements for its integration with Star Alliance before this weekend and ahead of schedule, as it looks to ensure that one of the most critical pillars of its turnaround plan goes through smoothly. After a wait of about seven years, Air India is to officially join the largest global airline alliance in July this year.
A top airline official told FE that training of its front-line staff is complete, while contracts such as commercial and legal agreements with Star Alliance partners is nearly done as well. Testing of the IT systems with partner airlines will be completed on Thursday.
“Our internal deadline had been May 15 and most of the work is now done. This is a very crucial part of our strategy and we need to get this right. We have been working on this for a long while on and have upgraded several processes to match the partners,” he said.
He added, “We are testing the file exchanges right now in the IT system. The contractual work for the frequent flyer programme, including the commercial and legal agreements, have been done with all the 26 airlines. The branding work is on as well, the templates are being made right now”.
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talking about other issues, here is a photo of some AI FAs (won't call em aunties, not these anyway).
Not bad at all, IMO. The one second from the right is a real hottie! Woudn't mind stepping aboard a ratty Dreamliner solely to experience her service! 
I wonder who that chap in the dhoti is though? He looks like some mustard farmer from Jind, Haryana. What is he doing near the Dreamliner?
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| The_Goat wrote: | talking about other issues, here is a photo of some AI FAs (won't call em aunties, not these anyway).
Not bad at all, IMO. The one second from the right is a real hottie! Woudn't mind stepping aboard a ratty Dreamliner solely to experience her service!
I wonder who that chap in the dhoti is though? He looks like some mustard farmer from Jind, Haryana. What is he doing near the Dreamliner? |
Dude, family website
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| The_Goat wrote: | | Not bad at all, IMO. The one second from the right is a real hottie! Woudn't mind stepping aboard a ratty Dreamliner solely to experience her service! |
She's clearly young, so a relative new hire. Give her a few years for the AI 50 to start showing
I've usually found the IC ladies to be generally pleasant and proportional. It's the AI side that had well more than it's share of, ummm... large ladies.
Of course, it wasn't always the case:
http://worldhistoryinpictures.tumblr.com/post/85668851435/air-indias-air-hostesses-of-yesteryear
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They're all below average IMO, all four of them.
These IX specimens on the other hand, were/are quite okay.
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The_Goat
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| Spiderguy252 wrote: | They're all below average IMO, all four of them.
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They're a LOT better than a few I've seen on both IC and AI.
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These IX specimens on the other hand, were/are quite okay.
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The one on the left is ok.
The one on the right needs to eat better (as opposed to eat more).
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| 747-237 wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | | 747-237 wrote: | Air India Express will be removing four aircraft from the fleet in the Q1 2014, all of which will be going to Air Transat. Tentative dates are :
VT-AXD : 15 Jan 2014
VT-AXE : 05 Feb 2014
VT-AXF : 09 March 2014
VT-AXG : 23 March 2014 |
| 747-237 wrote: | | VT-AXD has been withdrawn from AIX fleet and ferried out of BOM to Selangor, Malaysia on return to lessor today. |
VT-AXE has been withdrawn from AIX fleet and ferried out of BOM to Selangor, Malaysia on return to lessor today. |
And today, VT-AXF. |
And finally, VT-AXG today. |
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Spiderguy252 wrote: | They're all below average IMO, all four of them.
These IX specimens on the other hand, were/are quite okay.
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Both of them were AI crew actually and not IX. On deputation for the first two years from AI
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| Spiderguy252 wrote: | They're all below average IMO, all four of them.
These IX specimens on the other hand, were/are quite okay.
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I am not sure about. Compared to the FAs in the US carriers (UA, DL and AA), these ladies are better looking. |
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AI has begun reconfiguring their A321s from 20J152Y to 12J170Y on a couple of their aircraft.
The same is now reflected on their seatmaps.
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Don't get me wrong I love aircraft pictures with crew  .... but once we start adding crew pics and discuss it 6 times (with additional pictures) it gets a bit ..... distasteful?
No harm intended I'm sure but guys let's avoid this individual ratings/comparisons of people.
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The_Goat
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| stealthpilot wrote: | Don't get me wrong I love aircraft pictures with crew .... but once we start adding crew pics and discuss it 6 times (with additional pictures) it gets a bit ..... distasteful?
No harm intended I'm sure but guys let's avoid this individual ratings/comparisons of people. |
I know. That was bad of me 
But that is a 744
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| The_Goat wrote: |
But that is a 744 |
And definitely not "News", in any which way, shape or form. |
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