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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IXM - DXB is now available for booking.

Schedule

SG23 IXM 2335 - DXB 0220 D

SG24 DXB 0350 - IXM 0945 D


Do anybody know what is the rotation of IXM-DXB-IXM?


It is MAA - IXM - DXB - IXM - MAA

SG307 IXM 1130 - MAA 1225 D

SG311 MAA 2110 - IXM 2210 D

It is 4th B739 service between IXM - MAA.


They are in the process of removing one of the 4 services
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They are in the process of removing one of the 4 services


Thats nice. Most probably they remove 5x weekly IXM-MAA-DEL service.It was temporarily stopped between 8th July - 1st Oct. It resumed on 2nd Oct.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's WTF news is brought to you by "Business Standard" :


V Raja, Senior Vice President, Commercial, SpiceJet said the airline would be taking delivery of 30 Boeing 747 aircraft from January 2014. Every year seven new aircraft will be inducted into the fleet.



http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/spicejet-plans-aggressive-overseas-expansion-113102500795_1.html
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We always complain that many carriers to/from India have terrible timings, but why are Indian carriers following the same rule, especially to nearby countries.

The BLR-BKK flight leaves at 3:30 AM - why. They could have a flight leaving at 11:30 PM and arriving at about 6 am at BKK and then the return flight to BLR (after the PNQ trip) would be arriving at a decent time of 7 or 8 pm.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SG has apparently reduced frequency of their flights to GuongZhou
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We always complain that many carriers to/from India have terrible timings, but why are Indian carriers following the same rule, especially to nearby countries.

The BLR-BKK flight leaves at 3:30 AM - why. They could have a flight leaving at 11:30 PM and arriving at about 6 am at BKK and then the return flight to BLR (after the PNQ trip) would be arriving at a decent time of 7 or 8 pm.


I agree - the timings of the BKK flights are horrible - don't know why SG believes this to be the right timing for the flight!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:
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We always complain that many carriers to/from India have terrible timings, but why are Indian carriers following the same rule, especially to nearby countries.

The BLR-BKK flight leaves at 3:30 AM - why. They could have a flight leaving at 11:30 PM and arriving at about 6 am at BKK and then the return flight to BLR (after the PNQ trip) would be arriving at a decent time of 7 or 8 pm.


I agree - the timings of the BKK flights are horrible - don't know why SG believes this to be the right timing for the flight!


Could it be that they are just trying to utilize the aircrafts more? There are no domestic flights around that time, so utilize it to fly to BKK and back?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The aircraft they are using appears to be dedicated for BLR/PNQ-BKK, atleast 4 days of the week. I dont know what the aircraft does the other 3 days.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/sanjiv-kapoor-to-be-new-spicejet-ceo_981072.html

Sanjiv Kapoor to be new SpiceJet CEO

Oct 31, 2013

SpiceJet today announced the appointment of Sanjiv Kapoor, aviation consultant and a former member of Bangladesh's GMG Airlines' Board, as its Chief Operating Officer (COO).

Kapoor, who would be occupying the post from tomorrow, had earlier worked with US carrier Northwest Airlines in several roles spanning corporate finance, business planning, procurement and operations, the no-frills carrier said in a filing with the Bombay Stock Exchange.

Besides Singapore's Temasek Holdings and the Boston Consulting Group in the US, Kapoor also worked with consultancy firm Bain and Company as a leader in their airline practice and worked with several large global carriers at the Board level on their fleet planning, network optimisation and revenue management.

His most recent stint was in the GMG Airlines where he led several initiatives towards improving productivity, cost control and customer satisfaction.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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His most recent stint was in the GMG Airlines where he led several initiatives towards improving productivity, cost control and customer satisfaction.



Which lead to.............. GMG going solvent.

So it's quite simple. Be JetZo!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpiceJet posts record Rs.559 crore loss

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/fM7Mqbz9s6uiIt375tlEVJ/SpiceJet-posts-record-559-crore-loss.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Is SG next on line to be folded up? At this pace, they might not last much longer unless they can get some fresh funds.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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His most recent stint was in the GMG Airlines where he led several initiatives towards improving productivity, cost control and customer satisfaction.



Which lead to.............. GMG going solvent.

So it's quite simple. Be JetZo!

Looks like your prediction is on it's way to being reality!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More than half the Q400 departures out of BLR today seem to be cancelled.

Any idea why?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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More than half the Q400 departures out of BLR today seem to be cancelled.

Any idea why?


The weather may be
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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More than half the Q400 departures out of BLR today seem to be cancelled.

Any idea why?


The weather may be


Unlikely. There are other Q400 departures around the same time, that are still on.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SpiceJet posts record Rs.559 crore loss

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/fM7Mqbz9s6uiIt375tlEVJ/SpiceJet-posts-record-559-crore-loss.html


If the NDA comes into power in 2014....things could get tougher Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From: http://www.spicejet.com/InternationalBaggageLanding.aspx

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Book your connecting flight with us the next time you are planning an international trip, and get set for international travel minus the worry of baggage allowance.
International Connection Baggage Policy
1. For guests travelling on SpiceJet domestic sector to a SpiceJet International sector or vice versa, the free baggage allowance for the international sector will be applicable.
2. For guests travelling on a SpiceJet domestic sector with a connection on another airline to/from an international destination where SpiceJet also operates, the prevailing domestic free baggage allowance will be applicable.
3. For guests travelling on a SpiceJet Domestic Sector with a connection on another airline to/from an international destination where SpiceJet does not operate, free baggage allowance up to 30kgs maximum will be provided.
Free Baggage Allowance must be reflected on the itinerary of International Flight.
The corresponding International route being flown by the guest on OAL should not be an online SpiceJet route.
The above allowance would be applicable for Adult/Child bookings. Infant bookings does not qualify for the allowance.
Any Baggage weight exceeding 30 kgs would be charged the normal applicable excess baggage charges


So pax get 30 kgs baggage allowance when connecting to SG to/from an international flight. A good move IMO, because the 15kg domestic limit was a pain for international transfer pax.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So pax get 30 kgs baggage allowance when connecting to SG to/from an international flight. A good move IMO, because the 15kg domestic limit was a pain for international transfer pax.


More than that, they even allow 23kg*2 baggage allowance for selected sectors. They are,

a)Hyderabad-Vizag-Hyderabad
b)Mumbai-Vizag-Mumbai
c)Delhi-Vizag-Delhi
d)Chennai-Coimbatore-Chennai
e)Coimbatore-Delhi-Coimbatore
f)Chennai-Madurai-Chennai
g)Mumbai-Madurai-Mumbai
h)Delhi-Madurai-Delhi
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From: http://www.spicejet.com/InternationalBaggageLanding.aspx

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Book your connecting flight with us the next time you are planning an international trip, and get set for international travel minus the worry of baggage allowance.
International Connection Baggage Policy
1. For guests travelling on SpiceJet domestic sector to a SpiceJet International sector or vice versa, the free baggage allowance for the international sector will be applicable.
2. For guests travelling on a SpiceJet domestic sector with a connection on another airline to/from an international destination where SpiceJet also operates, the prevailing domestic free baggage allowance will be applicable.
3. For guests travelling on a SpiceJet Domestic Sector with a connection on another airline to/from an international destination where SpiceJet does not operate, free baggage allowance up to 30kgs maximum will be provided.
Free Baggage Allowance must be reflected on the itinerary of International Flight.
The corresponding International route being flown by the guest on OAL should not be an online SpiceJet route.
The above allowance would be applicable for Adult/Child bookings. Infant bookings does not qualify for the allowance.
Any Baggage weight exceeding 30 kgs would be charged the normal applicable excess baggage charges


So pax get 30 kgs baggage allowance when connecting to SG to/from an international flight. A good move IMO, because the 15kg domestic limit was a pain for international transfer pax.


Amen to that!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From: http://spicejet.com/SeasonCelebrationLanding.aspx
One more offer from SG:



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* These offers are valid for travel till 31st Mar'14 and for booking made on or before 30th Nov'13.
* These offers will not be valid on blackout dates for travel between 20th Dec 2013 and 6th Jan 2014


Great move! Though with the discount only being the base fare, the effective discount might not be too large, but still, if you're flying a family of 4 on a return ticket, it might get you the cab fare to/from the airport.
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SpiceJet Increases Delhi – Kathmandu Service from late-November 2013

SpiceJet from 21NOV13 is increasing Delhi – Kathmandu service, where it’ll operate 14 weekly instead of 11. Planned schedule as follow.

SG041 DEL0840 – 1040KTM 737 x246
SG045 DEL1550 – 1750KTM 737 D
SG041 DEL1745 – 1945KTM 737 246

SG042 KTM1140 – 1315DEL 737 x246
SG046 KTM1850 – 2025DEL 737 D
SG042 KTM2045 – 2225DEL 737 246



Source: Airlineroute.net
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SpiceJet Increases Delhi – Kathmandu Service from late-November 2013

SpiceJet from 21NOV13 is increasing Delhi – Kathmandu service, where it’ll operate 14 weekly instead of 11. Planned schedule as follow.

SG041 DEL0840 – 1040KTM 737 x246
SG045 DEL1550 – 1750KTM 737 D
SG041 DEL1745 – 1945KTM 737 246

SG042 KTM1140 – 1315DEL 737 x246
SG046 KTM1850 – 2025DEL 737 D
SG042 KTM2045 – 2225DEL 737 246





Source: Airlineroute.net

On three days the evening flights are too close to each other IMO
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/spicejet-set-to-buy-boeing-737-max-plane-113111800705_1.html

SpiceJet set to buy Boeing 737 Max plane

Jet Airways signed purchase agreement with Boeing for 50 737 Max planes making it first Indian airline to choose aircraft


November 19, 2013

Domestic low-cost carrier SpiceJet has selected Boeing’s 737 Max, fuel-efficient and narrow body aircraft, for its fleet expansion. Boeing’s latest offering promises 13 per cent fuel savings over the current generation of planes and would enter into service from 2017.

Though a formal purchase agreement with Boeing is yet to be signed, SpiceJet’s order size could be of 40-50 planes, a source familiar with the development said. At list price, a 737 Max aircraft is valued at about $100 million (Rs 620 crore).

The airline did not respond to an email. While a Boeing spokesperson said, “We do not comment on specific issues regarding our customers.’’

Earlier in the year, Jet Airways signed a purchase agreement with Boeing for 50 737 Max aircraft, making it the first Indian airline to choose the aircraft. However, both the airline and aircraft maker have not announced the deal till now.

SpiceJet was in negotiations with both Airbus and Boeing for expansion of its fleet. It currently flies Boeing 737s and Bombardier Q-400 turbo props aircraft, the latter used to serve Tier-II and Tier-II cities. The airline’s current fleet size is 56 planes, which includes 41 Boeing 737s and 15 turbo props.

Fleet commonality is one reason that might have prompted SpiceJet to go along with Boeing. Operating two or more aircraft types requires airline to have different set of pilots and engineers and keep separate inventory of spares.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone help me please.So what is the real story about SG??? Looks like they are India's number 1 profit making airline if all these news of fleet expansion plans and new routes are to be beleived.

So what is the theory??? I am totally confused. More losses you make, more you spend????

And how about financing??? These aircraft do not come cheap. So there must be some strong beleivers of SG among financial institutions if they can bank roll these sort of acquistions???
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Someone help me please.So what is the real story about SG??? Looks like they are India's number 1 profit making airline if all these news of fleet expansion plans and new routes are to be beleived.

So what is the theory??? I am totally confused. More losses you make, more you spend????

And how about financing??? These aircraft do not come cheap. So there must be some strong beleivers of SG among financial institutions if they can bank roll these sort of acquistions???


More of these are LOI's between airlines - OEM, with clear instructions on what is the last date by which you tell the arrangements and make payments.

Then SG would go to the market and tell the lessor to take charge of the deliveries / start paying the pre delivery payment (PDP) whichever is ideal for it

So a huge order doesnt mean that money outgo has started immediately
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has SG taken delivery of any new aircraft in recent months (I do not mean the retruning ones leased out to Europe for the the summer). If I am not wrong they had some options for the Q 400 when they acquired the 15. Are they going to excercise the options???
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They have taken 1 or 2 B737s I think and not confirming the Q400s considering their experience from MX, Profitability and costs
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has SG taken delivery of any new aircraft in recent months (I do not mean the retruning ones leased out to Europe for the the summer). If I am not wrong they had some options for the Q 400 when they acquired the 15. Are they going to excercise the options???

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They have taken 1 or 2 B737s I think and not confirming the Q400s considering their experience from MX, Profitability and costs


If you scroll up, you'll find that this was their last delivery, a little over a month ago :

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SpiceJet have added a new 737-800 to the fleet today, as VT-SZI.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:06 am    Post subject: GAU-DEL flight on SG Reply with quote

When looking for options to fly GAU-DEL sector, found this. Two flights with 10 min gap.
SG 881 GAU 17:50 -DEL 20:40
SG 894 GAU 18:00 -DEL 20:40
First thought it was SG's usual error in website schedule. But flight status shows both flights are being operated for past few weeks. I find it strange!. Any comments?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: GAU-DEL flight on SG Reply with quote

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When looking for options to fly GAU-DEL sector, found this. Two flights with 10 min gap.
SG 881 GAU 17:50 -DEL 20:40
SG 894 GAU 18:00 -DEL 20:40
First thought it was SG's usual error in website schedule. But flight status shows both flights are being operated for past few weeks. I find it strange!. Any comments?


Yes, they are around for a while. While the first one is DEL IXB GAU DEL the later is a direct DEL GAU DEL

Interestingly with all the fights which SG put up to get IXB operational at night, they cancelled the night flights within days of launching them !
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SpiceJet has appointed consulting firm Bain and Co. to restructure the airline’s network and return it to profitability after losses at the budget airline have mounted over the past few quarters.

“The airline is flying to 55 destinations with 57 aircraft, stretching it thin. Then there are several routes which are losing money. There is a need to drop those routes,” said a person familiar with the matter who asked not to be identified. “The COO (chief operating officer) is trying to systematically stop the bleeding before healing can start.”


http://skift.com/2013/11/28/indias-spicejet-turns-to-bain-consulting-to-fix-its-problems/
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Why do they need a consulting firm to tell them something basic?
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^^ Why do they need a consulting firm to tell them something basic?


I guess more towards going to the investors, stating this is what a reputed firm has done and this is how we are taking it forward and so on

Unfortunately, majority of the consultants tell you what you already know and if you are not that lucky, they will tell you stuff after taking inputs from the employees
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Bain is a well established conulting firm although not an aviation specialist like Seabury. The quesiton is will the management listen to some unpalatable truths which are sure to come out.
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Bain is a well established conulting firm although not an aviation specialist like Seabury. The quesiton is will the management listen to some unpalatable truths which are sure to come out.


^^ Good point - the consultants can advise, but SG has to follow through.
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Technically, Is it feasible to operate Q400 in BOM-IXM sector (non-stop)?
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SG has cancelled MAA-BLR-IXE. Now SG operates 1 Daily HYD-IXE (nonstop both ways), 1 Daily BLR-IXE, 1 Daily BOM-IXE.
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Technically, Is it feasible to operate Q400 in BOM-IXM sector (non-stop)?


It is technically feasible. But I doubt whether it is economically viable or not. Our other experts can help.
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Technically, Is it feasible to operate Q400 in BOM-IXM sector (non-stop)?


BOM-IXM is around 730 miles, and the Q400 has a range of more than 1500 miles. So technically it is very feasible.

It should be economical too.
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