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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another season dhamaka from S2. Wanna fly to CMB/MLE. The older you are the better it is Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Sahara emotionally bow out of the Guangzhou route with tears in its eyes? or do they still think they can do it with a B737 since their B767 is leaving them.

Sahara Pranam ----Swagat ka Gangzhou--Chinglish Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not Much is know as to when do they intend to introduce their services to DAC and CAN. Few months back with much fan fair they had introduced flights to Port Blair . The flight is going 100% full with no seats available till April 2nd week. Checked up with reservation as i wanted to send my parents for a vacation and they said its waitlisted on a full fare.

extra flights deployed to BOM, CCU has also been withdrawn. No specific reason has been given.

Their PR dept i guess is not that media savy as Jet and Kingfisher. They had planned to introduce flights to Chandigarh and Khajuraho bt again there is no news when this will start...

I guess if they are serious about running this airline which is actually a gud one they shud order a couple of heavies..
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess if they are serious about running this airline which is actually a gud one they shud order a couple of heavies..

Not getting personal but why does everyone think ordering heavies always solves the problems? Can you manage a heavy on a route like for example to Maldives? An airline's minimum financial conditions should be strong enough. We all know S2 is in a weather ... no wonder they attempted selling the airline and geeting away with a Sahara Pranam. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interview with Mr Alok Sharma the man who is looking after Air Sahara. He also talks about 2 more 737-800 joining S2 in Feb,March 2007 from GE Aviation on Lease..

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2006/09/04/208797/sharma-revives-air-sahara.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool! S2 must lease a few more and manage with the losses they have made. Their 10x 738 fleet should see to a growth in their total number of sectors they operate
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recently i read in HT that DEL bound flight from CCU made an emergency landing at DEL with a faulty flap. Just wondering is that a serious fault. As pilot had requested extra runway length for stopping of the aircraft. Any idea hw much kms ideally a 737 takes to stop from the point of touchdown...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to give a rough idea of the runway length required by various models of NGs...the Landing weight, Autobrake setting, Flap setting, Wind conditions, Runway conditions, Runway Slope all affect this distance.

1. B737-600 50 T LW
Flaps 15 Auto Brakes 2 ==>1745 M
Flaps 30 Auto Brakes 2 ==>1635 M
Flaps 40 Auto Brakes 2 ==>1590 M

2. B737-700 58 T LW
Flaps 15 Auto Brakes 2 ==>2000 M
Flaps 30 Auto Brakes 2 ==>1885 M
Flaps 40 Auto Brakes 2 ==>1820 M

3.B737-800 60 T LW
Flaps 15 Auto Brakes 2 ==>2240 M
Flaps 30 Auto Brakes 2 ==>2065 M
Flaps 40 Auto Brakes 2 ==>1910 M

4.B737-900 59 T LW
Flaps 15 Auto Brakes 2 ==>2320 M
Flaps 30 Auto Brakes 2 ==>2110 M
Flaps 40 Auto Brakes 2 ==>1915 M
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is TLW total weight?? howcome 739 is lighter than 738??
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

59 T LW = 59000 KG Landing Weight...T = Tonne...jux a mid range figure for comparison only....a -900 is heavier than -800
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sahara pilots test alcohol positive

By Sridhar Kumaraswami

New Delhi, Feb. 3: Two pilots of private airline Air Sahara tested positive for consumption of alcohol at New Delhi on Friday before they were to fly aircraft from the Delhi sector. The pilots were caught during routine pre-flight testing on account of strict surveillance by the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA), the regulator in the civil aviation sector, a top DGCA source told this newspaper. DGCA sources added that the licences of the pilots had been suspended. Air Sahara also confirmed that the two pilots had been "temporarily suspended".

When contacted, Air Sahara conceded that two of its pilots had been detected with alcohol in their bloodstream on Friday during a pre-flight medical test which, it said, had been conducted by the airline’s doctors. "During the pre-flight medical test and breathalyser test conducted by Air Sahara’s doctors, two pilots were detected with alcohol in their bloodstream above normal limits. They have been temporarily suspended," Air Sahara president Alok Sharma told this newspaper.

"Probably the two pilots had consumed alcohol the previous night and had not had the prescribed rest. It could also be that they had taken some medicines which had alcoholic content," Mr Sharma added. Asked whether the two pilots were detected before they were to fly aircraft and which sector they were to fly to, Mr Sharma said, "That is a totally irrelevant question."

A highly-placed DGCA source said, "The detection was due to the strict monitoring of the DGCA. If a pilot tests positive for alcohol consumption in a pre-flight check, it is a serious breach of discipline as it could affect the safety of hundreds of passengers. There should be no presence of alcohol in a pilot during a pre-flight check."

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sahara pilots test alcohol positive



Evil or Very Mad Someone should lecture them that drinking and driving doesnt mix forget abt the flying...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is def not tolerated if the report is true.
Responsible jobs come with an understanding of how many lives are at stake.

Its Important for Pilots/AMEs to be sober 12hrs before work.

Either maintain that or don't work in this field.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air Sahara also confirmed that the two pilots had been "temporarily suspended".

Is that the only action taken for such an act??? Im surprised at the arrogance of private carriers. I can remember AI sacking one-two pilots whoi were tested alcohol positive in '03
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems Sahara continues to be fetish for the CRJ,s and they are planning to get 25 more of these birds... Any clue as to how actually are the CRJ,s performing in India.

Sahara Airlines, which attempted the country’s biggest aviation merger last year, said it’s in talks with Canada’s Bombardier Inc, the world’s third-largest maker of commercial aircraft, to buy planes as travel demand rises.

Air Sahara, as the airline is called, may purchase up to 25 aircraft, which can seat as many as 75 passengers, said Alok Sharma, president, Sahara


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

going for more CRJ's shouldn't be a bad idea if they are planning to enter the secondary to secondary city market like MDLR.

Then emotionally yours will become locally yours. Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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crew320 wrote:
Air Sahara also confirmed that the two pilots had been "temporarily suspended".

Is that the only action taken for such an act??? Im surprised at the arrogance of private carriers. I can remember AI sacking one-two pilots whoi were tested alcohol positive in '03


"Emotionally and tipsyly yours, this is your Commander from the cocktail lounge . . . err cockpit . . . welcoming you on board, please place your last orders with the barmaid . . . err please watch the safety demonstration very carefully because I am already flying in the clouds . . . we shall actually soon leave so please settle down while I have one for the road . . . err get clearance from ATC . . . hic"
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Emotionally and tipsyly yours, this is your Commander from the cocktail lounge . . . err cockpit . . . welcoming you on board, please place your last orders with the barmaid . . . err please watch the safety demonstration very carefully because I am already flying in the clouds . . . we shall actually soon leave so please settle down while I have one for the road . . . err get clearance from ATC . . . hic"


Hehe...lolzz
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The argument continues......

In a setback to Jet Airways, the Bombay High Court on Wednesday asked the airline to approach the arbitration tribunal for resolving the dispute over the bank guarantee given to Air Sahara for the failed takeover deal.

Jet Airways had last year submitted a bank guarantee of Rs 500 crore for a share-purchase agreement (SPA) to acquire Air Sahara, but the deal went sour. The companies had earlier approached an Arbitration Tribunal (AT) in London to resolve the matter related to the failed takeover deal, but the issue of bank guarantee was not included.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S2 seems to be starting its flight to KUL also from delhi. Apart from this the Male flight would now be operated via trivandrum.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sahara pilots test alcohol positive
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Hmmmmmmmmmm........... couple of months back couple of suspended Sahara air-hostress were detained for trying to trespass PM's residence. One wonders why this has to happen to them only!! It must be India's Unluckiest airline for sure.Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmmmmmmmmmm........... couple of months back couple of suspended Sahara air-hostress were detained for trying to trespass PM's residence. One wonders why this has to happen to them only!! It must be India's Unluckiest airline for sure.Sad

Yes they wanted to 'meet' the president and tell him hi-hello as they called him a 'nice person' ... Queen Elizabeth how about a dinner? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lack of professionalism by people doing very Important work. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sahara wants to fly to Bishkek maybe frm next winter . LOL i guess Mr Sharma had a couple of pegs of Absolute Vodka before giving this press briefing. I bet the flight wud bound to be doomed. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sahara wants to fly to Bishkek maybe frm next winter . LOL i guess Mr Sharma had a couple of pegs of Absolute Vodka before giving this press briefing. I bet the flight wud bound to be doomed. Very Happy

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Is there enugh load factors to Bishkek?
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Is there enugh load factors to Bishkek?


I guess u really didnt get the joke otherwise u dnt be asking such questions... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the_380 wrote:
Is there enugh load factors to Bishkek?


I guess u really didnt get the joke otherwise u dnt be asking such questions... Wink

There was no joke...wat u said was obvious....but i am thinking what must the other board members in S2 be thinking abt this decision Rolling Eyes
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Is that the only action taken for such an act??? Im surprised at the arrogance of private carriers. I can remember AI sacking one-two pilots whoi were tested alcohol positive in '03

Completely agree!

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This is def not tolerated if the report is true.
Responsible jobs come with an understanding of how many lives are at stake.
Its Important for Pilots/AMEs to be sober 12hrs before work.
Either maintain that or don't work in this field.MEL

In America (and I assume a lot of European countries) The max allowable B.A.C is .04 (half of what it is for driving) and the rule is you can’t consume alcohol 8 hours before your flight.
Heck, if a college student gets a DUI, his chances of getting a job plummet regardless of his qualifications. DUI’s incidently stay on your record for 75 years!!
Airlines need to be very very tough on this!!! It’s just not acceptable.
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Is that CRJ still in VAGO? and the 734 in bombay? And that other CRJ in calcutta.... instead of fleet expansion, they should probably just focus on bringing back the 'lost' ones.

PS: The wake of the An124 SUX BIGTIME
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Is that CRJ still in VAGO? and the 734 in bombay? And that other CRJ in calcutta.... instead of fleet expansion, they should probably just focus on bringing back the 'lost' ones.

Are u referring to the S2 B734 that overran the rwy?
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That aircraft has been written off ages ago. Cant comment abt the CRJ,s though. Bt i do think they might have been back on track since CRJ,s are getting really active in ops ..
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PS: The wake of the An124 SUX BIGTIME


Very Happy lots of turbulence I guess? What's the separation time after a AN124?
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5NM
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There is traffic to Bishkek: IC has been codesharing on DEL-Bishkek with Uzbekistan Airlines for years now and is actively considering operations on its own metal. Good cargo loads as well: together should fill up a A321 pretty easily!

Basically trader traffic who find it easier to come to DEL to sell their local wares and to pick up cheap "luxury" stuff and fly back with goodies picked up from here. So its not "bulk" cargo that IC folks loves but "piecemeal" cargo.

So a market is definitely there: how successfully S2 taps into it is a different story.
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Air Sahara will stop its DEL-CMB-MLE International operations from 12th March 07 onwards which were started with much fan fare. The reason being cited here is a technical issue.

They will continue to operate to CMB via MAA while MLE would now be flown from TRV.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it Lack of Aircraft.
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Is it Lack of Aircraft.

This is what i cll as DESTRUCTION OF IC ... they have been operating these routes from a long time with very good yields. Now S2 also enters. Probably S2 realised that there's more money in these two individual routes than in the previously operated leg
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not sure MEL bt i guess they got 2 738 from the GECAS recently i wish if we can find out the rego numbers...
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IC has operated out of TRV-MLE because it was the closest point from Inida and over the years that scheduling stayed. Typically the 6 am DEL-MMA flight went on to operate MAA-TRV-MLE and back before operating the evening MAA-DEL.

However froma loads perspective, it owuld be better if BLR and/or HYD were to be connected and timing the return from MLE in such a way that it connects from BLR/HYD to other points on the IC network like SIN,BKK and the Middle east thus allowing it to tap into MLE' market as well. IC in particular should consider this. DEL-BLR in any case could do with another daily frequency by IC, which could be extended to MLE and back. So one A320 could do DEL-BLR-MLE-BLR-TRV-BLR-DEL.

S2 would have been better off sticking to BLR.
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HAWK21M wrote:
Is it Lack of Aircraft.


Not sure MEL bt i guess they got 2 738 from the GECAS recently i wish if we can find out the rego numbers...


As on 11/01/07.As per DGCA Aircraft Register:-
VT-SAY,VT-SJD [B733]
VT-SIE,VT-SJB,VT-SJC [B734]
VT-SIG, VT-SIR,VT-SIS,VT-SIU, VT-SIV,VT-SJE,VT-SIZ,VT-SJA [B73G]
VT-SDL [B763]
VT-SIJ, VT-SIK, VT-SJF,VT-SJG, VT-SJH,VT-SJI, VT-SJJ [B738]
VT-SAP, VT-SAL, VT-SAO,VT-SAS, VT-SAU, VT-SAR,VT-SAQ [CRJ600]

Thats 28 Frames.
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