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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Looking for vintage pics of Indian Airports Reply with quote

I am looking for vintage pics of Airports in India, particularly from the end of 1950s, early 1960s. Can anyone help?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does 1945-46 count???
Fount this pic in a magazine........anybody recognizes this airport Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic find Raj.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A picture of HAL from 1947 (a pic of a picture at the HAL Museum, Bangalore)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iflytb20 wrote:
Does 1945-46 count???
Fount this pic in a magazine........anybody recognizes this airport Wink


Great pics indeed, thanks. Makes a great start. Very Happy The Bangalore one I have seen already somewhere.

Any pics of the terminals from the time?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome find, Captain. Cool Thanks for Sharing!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iflytb20 wrote:
Does 1945-46 count???
Fount this pic in a magazine........anybody recognizes this airport Wink


Love it!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How I wish sumbody had vision to build some 3-4 parallel runways back then !
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ameya wrote:
How I wish sumbody had vision to build some 3-4 parallel runways back then !


somebody had a greater vision to build "jhuggies" back then..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Below a pic of Bombay from the mid 60s. Interestingly not much changed in the airport's geometry in the 40 years after, apart of some extra taxiways.

Still looking for a pic of the old terminal though.

http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/cgi-bin/browse/browse?debug=2&ds_id=declassii&ds_path=004025/00056/40250000056017-00001359.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brn1976 wrote:
Below a pic of Bombay from the mid 60s. Interestingly not much changed in the airport's geometry in the 40 years after, apart of some extra taxiways.

Still looking for a pic of the old terminal though.

http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/cgi-bin/browse/browse?debug=2&ds_id=declassii&ds_path=004025/00056/40250000056017-00001359.jpg


You can still see the third runway in the picture. Wonder when was that converted to a taxiway / apron??
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aiel wrote:
A picture of HAL from 1947 (a pic of a picture at the HAL Museum, Bangalore)




The AIrcraft which that guy has incorrectly identified as a Norseman is actually a De Havilland DHC-3 Otter, most likely belonging to the RIAF (Royal Indian AIr Force).

The lake in the background seems to be the Bellendur Lake. It has a very interesting story. During the 1940s, the RAF had stationed Consolidated Catalina flying boats in India and these were overhauled in the HAL facility. The Catalinas would land in the lake and climb up a ramp, so as to be able to enter the tarmac. Apparently, the ruins of those ramps can still be seen today.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Goat wrote:

The lake in the background seems to be the Bellendur Lake. It has a very interesting story. During the 1940s, the RAF had stationed Consolidated Catalina flying boats in India and these were overhauled in the HAL facility. The Catalinas would land in the lake and climb up a ramp, so as to be able to enter the tarmac. Apparently, the ruins of those ramps can still be seen today.


Fascinating - I wish we had a way to go and see those ramps and that part of history now! The lake is currently highly polluted, full of water hyacinth and other weeds and a mess Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nimish wrote:

Fascinating - I wish we had a way to go and see those ramps and that part of history now! The lake is currently highly polluted, full of water hyacinth and other weeds and a mess Sad


Actually the HAL airport is one of the greatest places for an aviation history buff to visit. The most interesting part is the junkyard located next to the plant. Many old and rare aircraft carcasses are stored there.
I was told by a guy who worked at HAL that sometime in the late 1990s, there was a big auction to sell off much of the old stuff there. Many priceless relics were sold off as scrap. These included wrecks of Spitfires, Tempests, DC-3s, Ouragans, Canberras, SU-7s, Maruts and also parts of Packets and Liberators. Apparently, the stuff also included two complete and potentially airworthy De Havilland Doves. All of them were cut up, possibly to be made into beer cans Sad .
I don't know why nobody in India wants to restore at least one example of each of these old types into airworthiness, just for the sake of posterity. We have both the technical and financial resources to do it. Just the willingness and the spirit are not there. sad, really.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Goat wrote:

I don't know why nobody in India wants to restore at least one example of each of these old types into airworthiness, just for the sake of posterity. We have both the technical and financial resources to do it. Just the willingness and the spirit are not there. sad, really.


And it is not that we do not do such things. A look at the Air Force Museum at Palam, New Delhi - just tells the story of what is possible in terms of restoration. On the 50th anniversary in 1982 (and a bit later, too for another occassion), air force officers actually went into the museum, tinkered with the hardware, and actually flew the planes for the parade. If my memory serves me right, they even got the Westland Wapiti to take to the air, the air force's first aircraft. And THAT really says a lot.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And it is not that we do not do such things. A look at the Air Force Museum at Palam, New Delhi - just tells the story of what is possible in terms of restoration. On the 50th anniversary in 1982 (and a bit later, too for another occassion), air force officers actually went into the museum, tinkered with the hardware, and actually flew the planes for the parade. If my memory serves me right, they even got the Westland Wapiti to take to the air, the air force's first aircraft. And THAT really says a lot.
Cheers, Sumantra.


yes, but are those airplanes airworthy now? Is there any attempt being made to maintain them on a continuous basis?
I've heard that the Spitfire which was made airworthy was subsequently found to be missing some parts. They were most probably, pinched by some of the museum guards and sold off to some foreign spare part vendor. So it cannot fly anymore. There have been several incident like this in the IAF museum. The bigger aircraft there are all stored in the open, exposed to the elements with little or no maintenance. The B-24 Liberator there, one of only five in existence in the world, was in a pathetic condition the last time I saw it.

What I was suggesting was something on the lines of the HARS in Australia or the Kermit Weeks Flight of Fantasy in the US, not a one time effort. Surely our excellent aviation heritage deserves this!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they are perhaps not airworthy now, but at least - they look nice and shiny. The ones exposed to the elements do not seem to have much evidence of corrosion, or dust or grime. Ditto for the Hunter and the Type 77 Mig-21 in Subroto Park. Is it the nice Delhi weather? I visited the museum less than a month back. No, I do not think any enthusiast officers spend their time or money on these, nor does the organisation do this, to keep the birds airworthy. However, those planes still look nice. Yes, the spray paint may have been overdone on the perspex canopies, and the aircraft may not be in as pristine a condition as at the RAF museum in Croydon, for instance. For storage, in our conditions, I think this is fair enough. Museum aircraft are not expected to be in flying condition, and true - an organisation can try to keep an example or two in actual flying condition. I guess one can still settle with the first option. Even to see these beauties in good preserved condition - is a fair achievement. Just my two pice.
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