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brn1976 Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Posts: 3 Location: LSZB
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: Looking for vintage pics of Indian Airports |
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I am looking for vintage pics of Airports in India, particularly from the end of 1950s, early 1960s. Can anyone help?
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iflytb20 Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 1079 Location: Next to the Airport
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Does 1945-46 count???
Fount this pic in a magazine........anybody recognizes this airport
_________________ Always do everything into wind...... except piss |
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HAWK21M Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Fantastic find Raj. _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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Aiel Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: |
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A picture of HAL from 1947 (a pic of a picture at the HAL Museum, Bangalore)
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brn1976 Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Posts: 3 Location: LSZB
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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iflytb20 wrote: | Does 1945-46 count???
Fount this pic in a magazine........anybody recognizes this airport
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Great pics indeed, thanks. Makes a great start. The Bangalore one I have seen already somewhere.
Any pics of the terminals from the time? |
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rutvij Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1390 Location: Skies of Fire!
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome find, Captain. Thanks for Sharing! |
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yash777 Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 901 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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iflytb20 wrote: | Does 1945-46 count???
Fount this pic in a magazine........anybody recognizes this airport
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Love it! _________________ Jetphotos Flickr gallery |
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ameya Member
Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 3671 Location: Pune,Maharashtra
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:55 am Post subject: |
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How I wish sumbody had vision to build some 3-4 parallel runways back then ! |
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Aseem Member
Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | How I wish sumbody had vision to build some 3-4 parallel runways back then ! |
somebody had a greater vision to build "jhuggies" back then.. |
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brn1976 Member
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iflytb20 Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 1079 Location: Next to the Airport
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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You can still see the third runway in the picture. Wonder when was that converted to a taxiway / apron?? _________________ Always do everything into wind...... except piss |
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The_Goat Member
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Aiel wrote: | A picture of HAL from 1947 (a pic of a picture at the HAL Museum, Bangalore)
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The AIrcraft which that guy has incorrectly identified as a Norseman is actually a De Havilland DHC-3 Otter, most likely belonging to the RIAF (Royal Indian AIr Force).
The lake in the background seems to be the Bellendur Lake. It has a very interesting story. During the 1940s, the RAF had stationed Consolidated Catalina flying boats in India and these were overhauled in the HAL facility. The Catalinas would land in the lake and climb up a ramp, so as to be able to enter the tarmac. Apparently, the ruins of those ramps can still be seen today. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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Nimish Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: |
The lake in the background seems to be the Bellendur Lake. It has a very interesting story. During the 1940s, the RAF had stationed Consolidated Catalina flying boats in India and these were overhauled in the HAL facility. The Catalinas would land in the lake and climb up a ramp, so as to be able to enter the tarmac. Apparently, the ruins of those ramps can still be seen today. |
Fascinating - I wish we had a way to go and see those ramps and that part of history now! The lake is currently highly polluted, full of water hyacinth and other weeds and a mess _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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The_Goat Member
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Nimish wrote: |
Fascinating - I wish we had a way to go and see those ramps and that part of history now! The lake is currently highly polluted, full of water hyacinth and other weeds and a mess |
Actually the HAL airport is one of the greatest places for an aviation history buff to visit. The most interesting part is the junkyard located next to the plant. Many old and rare aircraft carcasses are stored there.
I was told by a guy who worked at HAL that sometime in the late 1990s, there was a big auction to sell off much of the old stuff there. Many priceless relics were sold off as scrap. These included wrecks of Spitfires, Tempests, DC-3s, Ouragans, Canberras, SU-7s, Maruts and also parts of Packets and Liberators. Apparently, the stuff also included two complete and potentially airworthy De Havilland Doves. All of them were cut up, possibly to be made into beer cans .
I don't know why nobody in India wants to restore at least one example of each of these old types into airworthiness, just for the sake of posterity. We have both the technical and financial resources to do it. Just the willingness and the spirit are not there. sad, really. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
-Jasepl |
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sumantra Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: |
I don't know why nobody in India wants to restore at least one example of each of these old types into airworthiness, just for the sake of posterity. We have both the technical and financial resources to do it. Just the willingness and the spirit are not there. sad, really. |
And it is not that we do not do such things. A look at the Air Force Museum at Palam, New Delhi - just tells the story of what is possible in terms of restoration. On the 50th anniversary in 1982 (and a bit later, too for another occassion), air force officers actually went into the museum, tinkered with the hardware, and actually flew the planes for the parade. If my memory serves me right, they even got the Westland Wapiti to take to the air, the air force's first aircraft. And THAT really says a lot.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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The_Goat Member
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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sumantra wrote: |
And it is not that we do not do such things. A look at the Air Force Museum at Palam, New Delhi - just tells the story of what is possible in terms of restoration. On the 50th anniversary in 1982 (and a bit later, too for another occassion), air force officers actually went into the museum, tinkered with the hardware, and actually flew the planes for the parade. If my memory serves me right, they even got the Westland Wapiti to take to the air, the air force's first aircraft. And THAT really says a lot.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
yes, but are those airplanes airworthy now? Is there any attempt being made to maintain them on a continuous basis?
I've heard that the Spitfire which was made airworthy was subsequently found to be missing some parts. They were most probably, pinched by some of the museum guards and sold off to some foreign spare part vendor. So it cannot fly anymore. There have been several incident like this in the IAF museum. The bigger aircraft there are all stored in the open, exposed to the elements with little or no maintenance. The B-24 Liberator there, one of only five in existence in the world, was in a pathetic condition the last time I saw it.
What I was suggesting was something on the lines of the HARS in Australia or the Kermit Weeks Flight of Fantasy in the US, not a one time effort. Surely our excellent aviation heritage deserves this! _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
-Jasepl |
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sumantra Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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No, they are perhaps not airworthy now, but at least - they look nice and shiny. The ones exposed to the elements do not seem to have much evidence of corrosion, or dust or grime. Ditto for the Hunter and the Type 77 Mig-21 in Subroto Park. Is it the nice Delhi weather? I visited the museum less than a month back. No, I do not think any enthusiast officers spend their time or money on these, nor does the organisation do this, to keep the birds airworthy. However, those planes still look nice. Yes, the spray paint may have been overdone on the perspex canopies, and the aircraft may not be in as pristine a condition as at the RAF museum in Croydon, for instance. For storage, in our conditions, I think this is fair enough. Museum aircraft are not expected to be in flying condition, and true - an organisation can try to keep an example or two in actual flying condition. I guess one can still settle with the first option. Even to see these beauties in good preserved condition - is a fair achievement. Just my two pice.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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