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xterra Member
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vivekman Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: |
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BRILLIANT! _________________ Boeing makes planes. Airbus makes videogames! |
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Kabir Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: |
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It feels strange to see a Globemaster in a commercial livery for some reason. |
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HamiltonAir Member
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What would be the reason for painting a military plane in a civilian airliner colors? _________________ HamiltonAir |
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Jesin Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Nice livery on C-17.
Just a guess..I think they would use this aircraft for charity purpose especially in middle east and African region. Also can be a marketing move for Qatar and Qatar Airways. |
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karatecatman Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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It has a Qatari civilian registration (7A-MAB). Could is be that the Qatar government intends to use that aircraft for commercial oversize cargo, and open the way for commercial use of the Boeing C-17?
Is registering civilian Boeing C-17 in small middle eastern countries the way Boeing intends to compete on the civil oversize market against Russian cargo planes without going through civilian certification? |
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Jesin Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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karatecatman wrote: | Sent by email
It has a Qatari civilian registration (7A-MAB). |
Its A7-MAB
Regards,
Jesin |
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:20 am Post subject: |
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It looks a little....ummm....weird. Very chubby. _________________ Yeah. |
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karatecatman Guest
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www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10340840.html
Boeing targets demand for disaster relief planes in the Gulf
Jane Ferguson
Business Features Writer
August 16, 2009
Dubai: Tuesday's delivery of Qatar's first Boeing C17 Globemaster III military aircraft will be followed next month by the handover of a second, ordered last year from the Boeing's Integrated Defence Systems.
With an order from the UAE currently under negotiation and the possibility of Qatar purchasing another two, those at Boeing say the plane's popularity is a reflection of the region's increasing prioritisation of humanitarian relief efforts.
The C17 is best known for its capabilities in carrying large numbers, and landing in limited space, making it commonly used in humanitarian missions and troop movement. In the GCC, disaster relief is what is driving sales, said Donahew.
"The humanitarian is the first conversation that we have," he said.
At February's International Defence Exhibition and Conference in Abu Dhabi (IDEX), it was announced that the UAE had ordered four C17s from Boeing IDS and 12 C-130J aircraft from Lockheed Martin.
"The purchase of transport aircraft C-17 and C-130J aircraft is to meet the requirements of the UAE Armed Forces with regards to strategic and tactical air transport and to actively participate in rescue and humanitarian missions worldwide," said Maj Gen Obaid Al Ketbi, chairman of the Idex 2009 Military Committee and official spokesman for the event, told reporters at the time
Since 1990, the C17 has taken part in numerous disaster relief missions globally, including Pakistan in 2005 and Turkey in 1999.
Describing it as "an emergency room in the sky", he pointed out that the craft has capacity for 36 beds, with all medical equipment, or 102 people who aren't bed bound.
Although Boeing IDS do not release information on the price of any of their products, it is believed the C 17 sells for $220 million to international customers and $200 million (Dh897 million) to the US. A main competitor to the C17, the A400M made by European company Airbus, is reportedly cheaper - speculated to cost up to $200 million.
"Sometimes people see the C17 as more expensive than other aircraft, and it is," said Dunahew. However, he argues that the performance flexibility and capabilities of the C17 however, ultimately make it better value for customers.
The A400M however has faced production delays and spiraling costs lately, and recent reports suggest cost-aware buyers may turn to the C17. Dunahew pointed out that such uncertainty at Airbus is working in their favour.
"Who knows where the A400 is going to be?" he said.
In January of this year, EADS under which Airbus falls released a statement pertaining to delays in the delivery of the A400M.
"Airbus Military suggests to resume series production only once adequate maturity is reached, based on flight test results. With this proposed new approach, the first delivery of the A400M would then occur around three years after first flight," the statement said.
However, last month at a meeting in France the ministers of defense from the seven launch customers for the A400M reaffirmed their commitment to those deals.
Traditionally, EADS have held sway in the Middle East, said Dunahew. Boeing have staff placed permanently in the region, he said and the GCC particularly is of most importance.
"The Middle East, or GCC region specifically, is a big part of our growth," he said. "Traditionally our friends in Europe have had a hold in the Middle East."
In the past, politics played a major role in defence purchasing, but this is a pattern that is changing as sales become more about business transactions than political moves, he said.
"Some number of years ago it was a very important part of the conversation," said Dunahew." Today it's not important in the GCC region."
Regarding the broader Middle East region, there has been speculation that thawing relations with Libya are bringing with them negotiations over defence sales. "Libya are looking at procuring some new equipment and moving forward," said Dunahew, adding that this was not specific to the C17.
"There are three or four countries in the region with ongoing discussions," he said, referring to the broader Middle East.
"We're hoping to go forward."
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: |
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A nice model of this bird has just been released by Gemini Jets.
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