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(Credit: Many thanks to source in AIR INDIA)

Here it is finally: Exclamation

Seat details for AIR INDIA's new 777-200LR and 777-300
Seat manufacturer: Avio Italy

First Class
Pictures unavailable
Special new model seats for First class
Air India will have joint patent.

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Business/J Class
Standard features

Electrically controlled seat bottom depth/height.
Electrically controlled seat back recline mechanism.
Electrically controlled folding and sliding front legrest
and footrest.
Electrically controlled lumbar support.
Single piece in-arm table with fwd/aft sliding movement and
swivelling rotation.
Adjustable head rest (4 ways).
Front and rear track fitting anti-rattle device.
Positive shear pin.
Lifevest storage place.
Literature pocket mouse-trap frame.
Fireblocked foam cushion.
Personal reading light.
Fully flat inclined sleeping position (8° inclination during the flight).
Fully flat sleeping position (0° during the flight).
Side and center armrest fully collapsible.
Rear seat back video installation provisioning (10,4"/15").
In-flight-entertainment provisioning.
Cabin attendant step.
Special covering (natural or artificial leather) of endbay, armcaps and back-shell.
Proximity emergency escape passenger lighting system provisioning.

(Air India's new Business Class seat --- 777-200LR/777-300)

karatecatman · Guest

Seat details for AIR INDIA's new 777-200LR and 777-300

Seat manufacturer: Avio Italy

Economy/Y Class
Standard features
P.L. porter hydraulic recline lock and mechanical control.
Adjustable head rest (4 ways).
Front and rear track fitting anti-rattle device.
Positive locking shear pin.
Baggage bar with side restraint.
Lifevest pouch.
Literature pocket mouse-trap frame.
Aisle slide bumper strip.
Cabin attendant step.
Sliding rear meal table.
Fireblocked foam bottom cushion.
Minimum pitch capability of 29".
Articulated seat bottom cushion movement (cradle feature).
Multiposition adjustable rear footrest.
Flotation bottom cushion.
Handicap (lift-up) aisle armrest with positive locking.
Video installation provisioning.
Proximity emergency escape passenger lighting system.
In-flight entertainment provisioning.

(Air India's new Economy Class seats for 777-200LR/777-300)

Aseem · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ

thanks for the scoop!! personally I'd have wanted them to be non-white considering what all we carry with us. We will have to be careful with our pens, lipsticks and "haldi"-laden hands.
Now that they've decided upon white, a small red modif here and there could have given Palace in the Sky feel.
Good luck to AI.
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Seat details for AIR INDIA's new 737-800

Seat manufacturer: Avio Italy

Economy/Y Class

Standard features

P.L. porter hydraulic recline lock and mechanical control.
Front and rear track fitting anti-rattle device.
Positive locking shear pin.
Baggage bar with side restraint.
Lifevest pouch.
Literature pocket mouse-trap frame.
Aisle slide bumper strip.
Cabin attendant step.
Sliding rear meal table.
Fireblocked foam bottom cushion.
Minimum pitch capability of 29".
Multiposition adjustable rear footrest.
Flotation bottom cushion.
Handicap (lift-up) aisle armrest with positive locking.
Video installation provisioning.
In-flight-entertainment provisioning.
Proximity emergency escape passenger lighting system provisioning.
Adjustable head rest (4 ways).

(Air India's Economy class seats on its new 737-800)

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Basic details of IFE/Thales on Air India's new 777-200LR/777-300/747-400

Air India awarded the contract for the installation of the advanced passenger entertainment system on 23 B777 aircraft to be inducted in its fleet from February 2007 onwards to M/s Thales at a cost of US$ 70 million. This would comprise the Thales TopSeries digital audio and video on demand entertainment system at every seat with 23” and 15” display for First and Business Class seats and 10.6” display in the Economy Class seat. Every screen would be wide screen and touch screen and each seat will also have a noise cancelling module for high fidelity sound and laptop power. The airline had earlier signed up with Thales to install a similar system on the 6 B747-400 fleet at a cost of US$ 35 million.
The airline selected the Thales TopSeries i-5000 on-demand system which was initially designed for the Airbus A380 aircraft. The system is ideal for large aircraft and includes a gigabit Ethernet network for increased bandwidth for data throughput. In addition to the system, Air India will be supported by Thales’ media services group called TopEffects!
An in-seat power system is also available so that passengers can access power for their laptop and other handheld electronic devices.
Video and audio entertainment (films, maps, video games, etc.).
Connectivity (Internet, e-mail, SMS text messaging, and telephone calls).
Power connection for laptop computers and other portable electronic devices.
Thales will be able to integrate and deliver such applications as games, Surveys, Satellite Television, Internet Connection and Advanced Moving Map Displays.

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Jaysit · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346

Trust AI's stupid babus to get it wrong once again.

The J Class seats are old hat, and a generation behind what Etihad, Singapore, BA, Virgin, Jet Airways, etc. have in their fleets.

I guess asking Shabana Azmi and Sunil Gavaskar to rate seats can only get you that far.

Aseem · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ

AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

Firstly, KCM WOW thanks for bringing all of this to us and thanks to your source as well.

I find the J seat to be quite adequate, since AI will have an F as well. I think the new SQ J is a bit of an overkill and trip reports on a.net seem to suggest that they are a bit "bench-like".

Although I disagree with the cobalt colour for the chair, seems to give the impression that its been pulled out of an AC Chair Car compartment of Shatbdi. Maybe they should have gone for beige or maroon or something. Just my opinion.

JumboJet · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:38 am Post subject:

KCM, Thanks a ton. Thought i had the info, but not the pics. Thank you for putting shapes into my info Laughing

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the_380 · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:08 am Post subject:

Hey kcm, thanks for the exclusives.
Btw J class seems ok...lets hope the First class is better. Personally i would prefer AI having 2-3 personal suites on their -300ER fleets like EK.
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himmat01 · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL

Hey KCM,

Thanks for the preview of the AI seats. They look great.
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karatecatman · Guest

THANKS Guys and thanks that this forum exists.

Credit really goes to Source.
... just hoping he doesn't vanish. Threatening to defect to Emirates for four times the existing salaryand be a part of their Project A380 team.

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About the seats, its the 777 Y class seat that's a bit worrying. Can't imagine someone stuck in that for 16 hours non-stop (if its the 777-200LR). Seems to be a bit like what SQ has in its A340-500.

J seat --- is something like this in Emirates? Seem to have seen it on airliners.net (again in the A340-500 in EK).

karatecatman · Guest

This was the Air India release after the "celebrity seat-selecting exercise".

Air India traditionally seeks the views of its clientele before introducing any product - be it the murals on the interiors of the aircraft or the seats to be procured for the newly-ordered aircraft.
It may be recalled that top names from the Indian Industry like Ratan Tata, Deepak Parekh, Yash Birla, Maureen Wadia, Parameshwar Godrej, Aishwariya Rai, Shabhana Azmi, Anand Mahindra and other industrialists had come to Air India building to choose the passenger seats for the new B777 fleet from 7 models.
In line with this practice, Air India also invited famous personalities like
Parmeshwar Godrej, Maureen Wadia, Avantika Birla, Sunil Gavaskar
among others, to help the airline choose luxury products from items ranging from Hermes bags to cosmetics for its giveaway kits to First and Executive Class passengers. The amenity kits contain all the basics
that keep passengers fresh on long haul flights - from toothpaste and mouth wash to moisturiser. Cosmetic companies like Nina Ricci, Chanel and Estee Lauder will be contracted for the cosmetics.
Air India will also be licensing and contracting its duty free services and onboard shopping. Leading retail outlets from London and New York will be contracted to upgrade the shopping experience. Leading Japanese electronic giants like Casio and Seiko are being approached to be contracted to supply electronic items.

AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

KCM, the J seats are actually pretty common and a standard install on many airlines, have seen them on many pics on a.net.

I share your worries about the Y seat. They are a tad ordinary. Way better than what AI has now but still looks a bit uncomfy. Although these seem similar to the Y seat on TG's 346, which were pretty comfy on a 12 hr BKK-AKL nonstop.

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Nimish · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject:

KCM - great pictures and thanks for the details.

Unfortunately these are no where as path breaking as they should be. Given the competition that AI/IC will have, I would have hoped they'd come out with something better. I guess the in-flight service, route network, on-time performance etc. will have to be the differentiating factor!

The J class seats look very similar to the LH or other J class seats. I wish they had a picture to show the 0 degree fully flat bed in J, the current pics only show the 8 degree version.

The Y seats look really plain - unlike CX's or SQ's new Y seats. I think CX has the best seats since the seat recline does not eat into the space of the person behind. I wish AI had chosen something like that - which would have been awesome.

I also noticed at that the Y section does not talk about the degrees of recline possible - I hope that AI gives a generous seat pitch and recline in Y (at least on the AI mainline service, probably less relevant for the AIX LCC service).

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Aiel · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore

The design of the seats are physically Ok, but are they gonna stick to the white colour Question

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HAWK21M · Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject:

Fantastic Seat Pics.Thanks.
What plans on the Covers.
regds
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Exclusive 2

Special Extra Section Configuration/New 'J' Class seating
for AIR INDIA's 747-400s

(Credit: Many thanks to Air India source.)

More seat news ... this time on Air India's 6 (and owned) 747-400s.
Konark VT-ESM
Tanjore VT-ESN
Khajuraho VT-ESO
Ajanta VT-ESP
Agra VT-EVA
Velha Goa VT-EVA

After a review of its inflight services and growing competition, Air INDIA decided this:

Air India intends to modify seating in Zones 'C' and 'D', which is Executive Class. It plans to use new FAA Certified ready-to-fit furniture items with special extra section configuration.
These are:
1. dual pedestal table (with provision of manual height adjustment between 15 inch and 25 inch table height), Table top size 28 inch wide. The quantity is one number.
2. Fwd/Aft facing custom beds of size 3½ feet wide x 6½ feet long --- 3 numbers
3. Triple seat assembly to be installed at pedestal table, one forward and one aft facing --- quantity of 2 numbers
4. A single swivel seat with manual rotation angle --- upto 180°.
Air India requires the seats, beds and table in Mumbai by April 2007 end.

Air India also intends to refurbish its J seats and then fit them with the Thales i4000 IFE system seat-end equipment. These refurbished seats are to be installed in Zone D and in the special extra section configuration. Air India will provide 22 seats -- 11 numbers of left hand double seat type and 11 right hand double seats to be converted as 8 numbers of left hand double seat type, 8 numbers of right hand double seat type and six centre double seat type. This includes three numbers of float seat assemblies of, one of each type.

Air India is also purchasing non-electrical, new 'J' Class Seats, 22 in number as double seat assemblies (8 left hand, 8 right hand and six centre) including three numbers of floats of each type, to be installed in zone 'D' with special extra section configuration. Must be fitted with the new Thales i4000.
Some of the work for the seats to be refurbished involves new cushions, installing new plastics, new design literature pocket, and adding the i4000 Thales IFE system seat end equipment. i4000 for Air India will have AVOD, gaming & other passenger interactive entertainment. Provision must be made for 10.4”, 4:3 video monitors (in-arm) with shroud, USB port, noise cancellation audio jacks and AC power outlets.
Air India requires the refurbished seats and new seats in Mumbai by April 2007 end.

Air India is planning to market all this as a special passenger zone/VIP area.

The AI management also debated the First Class seats but left it inconclusive. May revisit the plan here too.

Seat plan below is for this new Special Extra Section Configuration/new 'J' seating.

Jaysit · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346

That supposed configuration for AI's 744s must be a special VIP configuration for when the 744s are used for flights by the PM and the President (I suppose they are VVVIPs now that every second person in Delhi is a VIP).

If AI used that configuration for its regular commercial flights, they'd go broke.

Aseem · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ

yes! that Swiel seat, coat storage and dressing table does not suggest regular flight congifuration. It has to be for VVIP flights.

tell me something! Is it possible to change the configuration so drastically at such a short notice?? I mean a day or so before the VVIP flight.

rgds
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AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

Am I missing something here or are there going to be two different types of J seats in the same a/c?
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Boeing7xx · Member Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 477 Location: WSSS

Awesome !!!! Way to go!!!

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the_380 · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject:

the_380

AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

I dont see why they should have such a lavish VIP config on a civil airliner flight.
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himmat01 · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL

I fail to see why the press must travel with the PM or the President. The media companies must make arrnagements to send their correspondents on commercial flights.

Let the PM and the President use the BBJs for their international travels. It will be a pity if they are used for domestic flights of the PM andPresident.
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JumboJet · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject:

Akshay · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 315 Location: Mumbai

Hmmmm. The seats look very attractive from the pics. Good, KCM

Akshay

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