Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Big airlines shop for small jets          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message karatecatman Guest Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Big airlines shop for small jets Big airlines shop for small jets P R Sanjai in Mumbai April 26, 2007 01:46 IST The country's scheduled domestic carriers are ordering over 150 small jets, which will be delivered in the next two to three years. Carriers like Indian, Jet Airways, Kingfisher Airlines and Paramount Airways, apart from a host of start-up airlines, are sewing up deals to acquire 50-70 seater aircraft for less congested routes. http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2007/apr/26air.htm Back to top COUGAR Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: I agree there is a market for 50 seaters especially props to service the shorter haul T3 markets. However i disagree with the rationale of getting 70-90 seat RJ's in the majors context. The CASM is just too high. The only airlines that can easily integrate a 90 seater like the E190 are Indian/Alliance and Kingfisher. For a cash strapped Jet/S2 etc it will be suicide! _________________ http://www.cougar-rides.com <B>Live to Ride - Ride to Live</B> -- Back to top JumboJet Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: COUGAR wrote: I agree there is a market for 50 seaters especially props to service the shorter haul T3 markets. However i disagree with the rationale of getting 70-90 seat RJ's in the majors context. The CASM is just too high. The only airlines that can easily integrate a 90 seater like the E190 are Indian/Alliance and Kingfisher. For a cash strapped Jet/S2 etc it will be suicide! Do airlines in India care about CASM? Any case studies? Any references? Please guide! _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. Back to top COUGAR Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: JumboJet wrote: Do airlines in India care about CASM? Any case studies? Any references? Please guide! No they dont! They just put together a fleet of aircraft from either manufactureur (selected after careful elimnation after hours of trying them out on FS2004) and then decide stations/routes based on a lottery system. _________________ http://www.cougar-rides.com <B>Live to Ride - Ride to Live</B> -- Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: COUGAR wrote: I agree there is a market for 50 seaters especially props to service the shorter haul T3 markets. However i disagree with the rationale of getting 70-90 seat RJ's in the majors context. The CASM is just too high. The only airlines that can easily integrate a 90 seater like the E190 are Indian/Alliance and Kingfisher. For a cash strapped Jet/S2 etc it will be suicide! You sure Kingfisher has the funds too True Turboprops like the ATR42s are quite suitable for NE. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Does anyone have information about: 1. Jet airways's Embraer Plan?? They had plan to buy 10 E170's. Any latest on that? 2. CD's plan for Small jets? Any progress on that?? Cheers Shivendra Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: CD is eyeing on the CRJs... dunno which ones...ATRs are at the moment "ruled out" _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top aarbee Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 328 Location: WAS/AMD Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: COUGAR wrote: They just put together a fleet of aircraft from either manufactureur (selected after careful elimnation after hours of trying them out on FS2004) and then decide stations/routes based on a lottery system. So U seriously think that these guys are so sophisticated? FS2004 is more advanced stuff. May be using the FS which came with DOS3.0 .. 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