Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  IA Bangkok-Delhi emergency landing          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message karatecatman Guest Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: IA Bangkok-Delhi emergency landing Just noticed this on a few news channels now: An IA A320 flight has made an emergency landing in Kolkata after a passenger said he was carrying a bomb. The flight was from Bangkok to Delhi. It landed in Kolkata at 3:15 pm after the passenger, said to a Mexican, had an serious altercation with the cabin crew and then threatened to storm the cockpit. The passenger has been arrested. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Such people shouldn't be left so easily...give them a few whips in front of the public _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Weirdo.Don't they realise the consiquences of their weird actions. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: http://in.news.yahoo.com/070321/210/6djxk.html DO check out another media goof up as usual...title says Air India plane makes emergency landing _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: The best punishment would be a stamp of someone's boot on their posterior, publically. Shivendra Back to top airbus330 Member Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Location: india new delhi Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: wonder how would co passenegers must hav reacted..... _________________ A330 Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: airbus330 wrote: wonder how would co passenegers must hav reacted..... Some must have been afraid (most rather) some prepared to act if necessary...just my two cents btw airbus330 welcome among a-i nutters _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: CNN-IBN showed clips of the man. Had to be pulled out of the police Gypsy and seemed to be p***** drunk. Then bagan to lash out at the cameramen and screaming obscenities. Kept saying he was a Mexican. On board, is supposed to have got into a fight with a whole row of pax. An IA auntie got hit in the face in the bargain before she and some others subdued him!!! Airbus was granted clearance immediately for the emergency landing --- a few leading dailies have reported it to be a "crash landing" Back to top avbuff Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031 Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: the flight has been now cleared for take off Back to top Aseem Member Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Times of India wrote: KOLKATA/NEW DELHI: It could have been a sequel to Robert Rodrigues' 1995 action thriller Desperado. Only, Feblex Ortiz Aeduardo Antonio was no El Meriachi. Instead, his drunken spat in the sky landed him behind bars on Wednesday evening. The 47-year-old Mexican on Indian Airlines flight IC 854 from Bangkok to Delhi first ticked off fellow passengers and then threatened to blow up the aircraft. The threat was enough for the pilot to make an emergency landing at Kolkata, where Antonio was handed over to the local authorities. The aircraft was searched but no explosive was found on board. The flight finally reached Delhi at 9 pm, after a good 45 minutes of hovering over IGI. Though the Mexican was reeking of alcohol when he boarded at Bangkok international airport with 81 others, he settled quietly into his seat. Once the flight took off, he got up and began disturbing fellow passengers with his loud banter. "Immediately after the plane took off at 12.30 pm (2 pm Bangkok time), the Mexican passenger asked for alcohol to be served. He was inebriated and spoke very loudly. When fellow passengers objected, he shot back more loudly," an airline spokesperson said. Rakesh Kumar, who was sitting next to the Mexican, said he was first slapped a few times on the shoulder after which he asked for a seat change. "I was given first aid by the crew but the Mexican kept abusing everyone and threatened to blow the aircraft. I was very scared thinking he would attack me again," said Kumar, a resident of Gorakhpur. Over the next couple of hours, Antonio flared up every now and then, making life hell for everyone on board. During one such heated exchange around 2.30 pm, Antonio lashed out at fellow passenger Rakesh Tulsian, leaving him bruised. That's when stewards on board decided enough was enough. As they moved in to restrain him, Antonio leapt back and warned he would blow up the plane. "I am carrying a bomb. Don't dare touch me," he said triggering a collective gasp in the cabin. The 'bomb threat' set off an alarm that triggered the anti-hijacking protocol. The chief steward informed captain S Kohli who immediately contacted air traffic control at Kolkata airport and sought permission for emergency landing. The plane was then approaching the Indian coast after flying over the Bay of Bengal. rgds VT-ASJ _________________ [url=http://openflights.org/user/aseemsjohri] [/url] Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: If he was 'reeking of alcohol' he shouldn’t have been allowed to board in the first place. The crew should be reprimanded in some way if that was true and it was evident he was drunk/ not in a normal state. _________________ eP007 Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: I still feel have a Random Alco sense test for all Pax. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top Boeing7xx Member Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 477 Location: WSSS Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA..... But this is going to happen if airlines throttle employees from avoiding such situations. Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: He shouldnt have been allowed to board the flight at BKK itself. LOL random checks for pax i hope i am nt the one always caught with over limits ... _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject: Full report is here: Guy started creating trouble just 20 minutes after take off!! Then began pacing the aisle. http://tinyurl.com/336jv6 Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: karatecatman wrote: Full report is here: Guy started creating trouble just 20 minutes after take off!! Then began pacing the aisle. http://tinyurl.com/336jv6 Maybe some Tape & rope was needed. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: The profile of the air passenger is changing and let's hope this incident is an eye-opener. IA and AI crew generally look the other way especially on SE Asian flights. Loutish pax behaviour is quite common on this sector and am sure honourable member "Crew320" will have more inputs on this. Incident should also be addressed to some of the private airlines, now clamouring to reintroduce alcohol on domestic routes. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: I guess cabin crew must be given basic training of karate _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: the_380 wrote: I guess cabin crew must be given basic training of karate Oh no - imagine a 50+ AI or IC aunty trying a few moves. She's easily knock of a row of seats off in the process Seriously though - it might be a good idea for new hires, as well as keeping a supply of handcuffs/duct tape on board. Back to top avbuff Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031 Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Nimish wrote: the_380 wrote: I guess cabin crew must be given basic training of karate Oh no - imagine a 50+ AI or IC aunty trying a few moves. She's easily knock of a row of seats off in the process Seriously though - it might be a good idea for new hires, as well as keeping a supply of handcuffs/duct tape on board. Well many airlines have that i remember an incident on QR the ac was going from DOH - AMM .. and one pax threatened the pax and tried to force his way to the cockpit the female FA over powered him and got him handcuffed Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: IA's Powder Puff Girls!! (Hope I got it right!!) Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: karatecatman wrote: IA's Powder Puff Girls!! (Hope I got it right!!) _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: What about those Sky Marshalls.Was one on board. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top crew320 Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 301 Location: New Delhi Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: karatecatman wrote: IA and AI crew generally look the other way especially on SE Asian flights. Loutish pax behaviour is quite common on this sector and am sure honourable member "Crew320" will have more inputs on this. Dunno about AI, but I have never heard about or felt anything like looking the other way if someone behaves like this... Infact, I make it a point to make a misbehaving passenger know his limit. Absolutely agree with the Quote: Loutish pax behaviour is quite common on this sector statement. aM _________________ M y - J e t P h o t o s Back to top crew320 Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 301 Location: New Delhi Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: stealthpilot wrote: If he was 'reeking of alcohol' he shouldn’t have been allowed to board in the first place. The crew should be reprimanded in some way if that was true and it was evident he was drunk/ not in a normal state. The Pilot in Command is the sole decision maker on any flight. On any given BKK flight that I've ever been on (and I've been on a few !! ) lemme tell you budd, you can count the number of passengers who're NOT tipsy... aM _________________ M y - J e t P h o t o s Last edited by crew320 on Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:32 pm; edited 2 times in total Back to top crew320 Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 301 Location: New Delhi Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: the_380 wrote: I guess cabin crew must be given basic training of karate That was the plan earlier, which was however, changed after a few days went past my training days... aM _________________ M y - J e t P h o t o s Back to top Boeing7xx Member Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 477 Location: WSSS Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Like i said, whoever reported me earlier for what I did, we would not be having this situation today if it wasn't for a weak management who wants to look good in press. Back to top XBValk Member Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 124 Location: NYC/COK Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: Boeing7xx wrote: Like i said, whoever reported me earlier for what I did, we would not be having this situation today if it wasn't for a weak management who wants to look good in press. This is your second post i got use this Maybe im late into the game, but what are you talkin abt? Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Bt i guess its the discreetion of flight attendent to know whether to serve alcohol to the pax or not??? bt i do believe if the guy looked drunk he shouldnt have been allowed to board the aircraft. _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: More news on this man: He has been sent to judicial custody till April 5. He was produced before Additional Chief Judicial Magistrate Gopal Karmakar who remanded him to judicial custody. He has been booked for unlawful and suspicious activity. Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: crew320 wrote: stealthpilot wrote: If he was 'reeking of alcohol' he shouldn’t have been allowed to board in the first place. The crew should be reprimanded in some way if that was true and it was evident he was drunk/ not in a normal state. The Pilot in Command is the sole decision maker on any flight. On any given BKK flight that I've ever been on (and I've been on a few !! ) lemme tell you budd, you can count the number of passengers who're NOT tipsy... aM I guess its a decision between carrying mor Pax or dropping the Alcoholics. Its tough for a drunk to accept that an added drink has been refused to him again Better not to get the Drunk on board. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: crew320 wrote: The Pilot in Command is the sole decision maker on any flight. On any given BKK flight that I've ever been on (and I've been on a few !! ) lemme tell you budd, you can count the number of passengers who're NOT tipsy... aM That may be, but if the pilot notices that a passenger is intoxicated he cannot take off (according to the FARs) FAR 91.17(b) states: Except in an emergency, no pilot of a civil aircraft may allow a person who appears to be intoxicated or who demonstrated by manner or physical indication that the individual is under the influence of drugs (except a medical patient under proper care) to be carried in that aircraft. I would imagine this rule extends to other countries (it certainly should). This is drilled into our heads, and even asked on check rides. Everyone knows the pilots legal limits when it comes to alcohol, but if a pilot sees or observes an intoxicated individual then he should be questioned and if necessary taken off the flight (unless its a medical thing) No arguing etc, if you're drunk you don’t fly. It IS the crew’s responsibility to check. _________________ eP007 Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: More news on this guy. Seems to be a real tough nut. http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=228434From plane to jail, inmate’s chaos continues In prison after threat to blow up flight, Febles refuses food, enters into brawl Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Feed him some chillies & keep the water outside the cell.Weirdo. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: http://www.rxpgnews.com/india/Kolkata-court-rejects-bail-of-Mexican-tourist_23341.shtml Kolkata court rejects bail of Mexican tourist Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation All times are GMT + 5.5 Hours Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum New Members----------------Sign-up Guidelines Airliners-India----------------Civil AviationNon AviationTrip ReportsMilitary Aviation & SpaceInternationalAviation Polls & PreferenceTech/OpsAviation PhotographyEditorial/Analysis/ArticlesAviation HobbyAviation LawAviation Questions & CareersSite Related Flickr Group----------------Photo of the Month My Message Board----------------Pin Up  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group. 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