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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pakistan is in big trouble....they protected the slime of humanity for over a decade.


Yes, but will your "liberal" Pesident and govt be liberal with Pakistan or really going to call out Pakistan on all of this? This is something I'm interested in knowing.


He already acted liberal. Said in his speech that "We and Pakistan have eliminated the man together"


It's called diplomacy. And speaking softly, but carrying a big stick. A very big stick. And it worked. What did you want the US to do? Drop a bomb on Islamabad? Scream and shout like the Shiv Sena about how evil Pakistan is? At the end of the day, the Americans had to depend on covert operations within Pakistan, and to that extent needed Pakistani spies within the system, and working below the ISI and Islamist radar.

And that's why Obama ordered the attack without informing the Pakistanis first. Only after Osama was killed was Zardari informed. Why? Because in the past, whenever the PK authorities were informed about covert ops. someone within the system sent the information to Al Qaeda. This entire operation has depended on working below the ISI radar, giving Leon Panetta, Head of the CIA, free reign and $$$ to find OBL, and tightly controlled intelligence. Apparently, one of the first diktats Obama gave the CIA in January 2009 was to find OBL by hook or by crook.

Oh, and yes, I think the mumbling you hear in America is the sound of Republican "Presidential" candidates with the foot of Osama's rotting corpse shoved down their collective throats.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On another note, no one knows where the royal couple are honeymooning, but I hear that a "luxurious retreat" in Pakistan just opened up.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On another note, no one knows where the royal couple are honeymooning, but I hear that a "luxurious retreat" in Pakistan just opened up.


Seychelles, I believe.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would have rather had him captured, put to trail and then executed. We might have got some decent intel out of him and his cronies.


And run the risk of more attacks/hijackings/hostage taking, etc??

Considering what we've been doing - giving VVIP treatment to sh*theads like Afzal Guru, Ajmal Kasab, etc, I would say this was the best way to end his miserable story once and for all.

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Of course, I suspect/ hope that this will be a turning point for the world's view/ perspective of Pakistan - the terrorist state. Its very clear that this was with state support (location - in a city, next to a military training camp, 62 miles from the capital city etc.), and hopefully this will make the world force Pakistan to mend it's ways.


Obama in his address mentioned that the operation was conducted with the help of the Pakistanis, whereas another report mentioned that the Pakis were informed only after Osama was killed!

Sherry Rehman in an interview mentioned that this was a proud achievement for the Pakistani government!

So, one can deduce what one wants to from the above....

I feel the Pakis would use this as another begging (read blackmail) opportunity - see how our co-operation has helped eliminate the world's most wanted terrorist. Keep giving us money, arms, protection and we will continue to co-operate!
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until India gets off the Gandhiji mantra the Pakis will continue to attack India without the fear of reprisal.. The Congress party certainly doesn’t have the balls to take on Pakistan and one would think the BJP would, but they can’t find their balls either... India has/had chances to take on the ISI and it backed down.. Now Pakistan has turned into the pre 9/11 Afghanistan and India face some blame for allowing it to happen.

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While it is a great symoblic victory for the US, I'm more concerned about the repercussions of this.

1) Will the US punish Pakistan for the decade of duplicity, subterfuge and violence that consumed innumerable lives and astounding amounts of money?

2) Will the Pakistani Military now unilaterally focus on attacking India which till now was split between Afghan border and India?

3) Will Pakistan now strategically take over control of Afghanistan gradually?

4) God forbids, if there is another terror attack in India, will the US go back to it's attitude of the 90s?

I hope the US has realized this man has had safe havens in Pakistan and take a strong stance.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And run the risk of more attacks/hijackings/hostage taking, etc??



Let the law be the one on top, not trigger happy gunmen. That is the root cause of failed states around us.

And imagine the benefit from the intelligence that Osama would have given - not to be trivialized.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US authorities should also investigate as to whether or not did some of the ISI agents were involved in allowing Osama to enter into Pakistan and provide him a mansion at Aboottabad in 2005?

Musharraf,while saying that Osama's death is significant in fighting against terrorism,he also was disappointed that US breached the soveriegnty of Pakistan by attacking Osama on their soil.He said that,he would not have allowed this to happen.Pakistan would have attacked Osama by themselves.

Well for 6 years what Musharaff was doing when Osama was comfortably hiding in his own backyard and at that time Musharaff was also the president.
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The US authorities should also investigate as to whether or not did some of the ISI agents were involved in allowing Osama to enter into Pakistan and provide him a mansion at Aboottabad in 2005?

Musharraf,while saying that Osama's death is significant in fighting against terrorism,he also was disappointed that US breached the soveriegnty of Pakistan by attacking Osama on their soil.He said that,he would not have allowed this to happen.Pakistan would have attacked Osama by themselves.

Well for 6 years what Musharaff was doing when Osama was comfortably hiding in his own backyard and at that time Musharaff was also the president.


Mush was busy playing the Islamists versus the ISI versus the US versus India versus the Taliban versus the Saudis versus Benazir.

That man was busy stirring the pot all along.

He's what you call the naarad-muni of the terrorist set.
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In this image released by the White House and digitally altered by the source to diffuse the paper in front of Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House, Sunday, May 1, 2011, in Washington.
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ISI did not give up OBL's location. The US intelligence painstakingly gathered the info on their own. This is one daring operation well inside another country. Kudos to the US forces and President Obama for the gutsy call.

What I am intrigued is that the choppers entered the Pak air space by using radar evading technology. It shows the level of sophisication of US military technology which is far ahead of all other countries.
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In this image released by the White House and digitally altered by the source to diffuse the paper in front of Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House, Sunday, May 1, 2011, in Washington.


From the picture, it really looks as if Hillary is in charge, and Obama is one of the assistants to the Military suit.
Wonder what she's shocked about ? Perhaps she saw the "Woman shield" used by OBL ?

OTOH, I think Pakistan very well knew that OBL was right next to their a@@es. The Pak Govt did not have the guts to take him out, for fear of shame and loss of image in the Islamic world. So they quietly let the Americans do the job, and perhaps may have even passed on the information beforehand.
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What I am intrigued is that the choppers entered the Pak air space by using radar evading technology. It shows the level of sophisication of US military technology which is far ahead of all other countries.


This is exactly why we destroyed the helicopter that crashed.
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In this image released by the White House and digitally altered by the source to diffuse the paper in front of Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House, Sunday, May 1, 2011, in Washington.


From the picture, it really looks as if Hillary is in charge, and Obama is one of the assistants to the Military suit.
Wonder what she's shocked about ? Perhaps she saw the "Woman shield" used by OBL ?

OTOH, I think Pakistan very well knew that OBL was right next to their a@@es. The Pak Govt did not have the guts to take him out, for fear of shame and loss of image in the Islamic world. So they quietly let the Americans do the job, and perhaps may have even passed on the information beforehand.


Perhaps some in Pak govt knew where OBL was, but they did not reveal this to US officials.
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May Bin Ladens soul rot in hell!

May his 70 virgins turn out to be gay men who do him up the arse constantly!

May his body be buried with a load of bacon rashers and pork chops!

May his beloved host be on the receiving end of some serious Paki Bashing!


And after the 70 gay men, there should be 70 dogs in line.
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This whole burial at sea business seems very sketchy to me.

No one in their right mind would have dumped Osama's arse into the Arabian sea (that is nowhere near Abbottabad).

Instead, one would have expected to see his corpse being paraded up and down Pennsylvania Avenue or Times Square or something.
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This whole burial at sea business seems very sketchy to me.

No one in their right mind would have dumped Osama's arse into the Arabian sea (that is nowhere near Abbottabad).

Instead, one would have expected to see his corpse being paraded up and down Pennsylvania Avenue or Times Square or something.


I fully agree with this! And all this was done so quickly! Something's very fishy in everything with the OBL saga.
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This whole burial at sea business seems very sketchy to me.

No one in their right mind would have dumped Osama's arse into the Arabian sea (that is nowhere near Abbottabad).

Instead, one would have expected to see his corpse being paraded up and down Pennsylvania Avenue or Times Square or something.



The body could have been airlifted to a US navy ship in the Arabian sea and then dumped, all within a few minutes, but the real question is as to why the Americans did not release pictures of the body. There's only one bad pic doing the rounds. When LTTE's Prabhakaran was killed, the Sri Lankans made sure that a number of pictures of the body with the face clearly visible were released to the media. They even allowed reporters to view the body. Why did not the Americans do the same with OBL?

Didn't they want the world to see what the dead Osama Bin Laden looked like? and if so why?

The other thing that is intriguing is the claim that the body had been confirmed to be that of OBL by DNA analysis within just a few hours. It takes at least a day or two to do a proper DNA analysis.

Was it really OBL that they killed? What's happening there?
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This whole burial at sea business seems very sketchy to me.

No one in their right mind would have dumped Osama's arse into the Arabian sea (that is nowhere near Abbottabad).

Instead, one would have expected to see his corpse being paraded up and down Pennsylvania Avenue or Times Square or something.


Well,it is for certain that Osama Bin Ladin is dead.The reason why the US did not display many pics to confirm to the world that it was him is primarily because they did not want to over publicize his death.

They felt displaying many pics of Osama would create lot of furore amongst the Al Qaedas,Talibans and other extremists.They would consider Osama has Martyr and that would inspire many others to follow his footstep and launch more terrorist attacks.

Thats what many experts on different news channels including CNN had mentioned yesterday, that the US did not want Osama to become the martyr.
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



TIME's latest issue (issue date May 20, 2011).
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sincerely hope that the US and the others don't start going easy on the war on terror, now that Bin Laden is gone.

There's much more to Al-Qaeda than just him. The war isn't won till every sleeper cell and training camp is dismantled, and all the sources of funding eliminated.

Now that all eyes are on Pakistan, Al-Qaeda will be forced to move out of there. They will most likely, move their operations to safer countries with large pockets of muslim population.

India, Indonesia, the USA, Canada , UK, South Africa etc should all be on their guard, as should North African nations and European countries with large Arab populations like France and Turkey.
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Information on pictures of OBL from CNN:

Photos of OBLs body at a hanger after he was brought back to Afghanistan. This is the most recognizable with a clear picture of his face. The picture is gruesome because he has a massive open head wound across both eyes. It’s very bloody and gory.

The official says the challenge is that the picture that includes the most recognizable image of OBLs face – from the hangar in Afghanistan – is so gruesome and mangled its not appropriate for say the front page of the newspaper. On the other hand, this is the one that is most identifiable as him.


http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/03/even-more-on-the-photos/?hpt=T1
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I saw an image of OBL on FB just now.It appears as if the US forces shot him at a point blank range that the pics shows, he recieved lots of bullets on his eyes and forehead.
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I saw an image of OBL on FB just now.It appears as if the US forces shot him at a point blank range that the pics shows, he recieved lots of bullets on his eyes and forehead.


It is fake.
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Why our military and political establishment should learn from what happened in Abbottabad

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271657
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Why our military and political establishment should learn from what happened in Abbottabad

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271657


The very fact that it is IAS not IPS/Defence folks in crisis management team, that the decisions are political, hence indecisive.
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Lets get Hafeez Syed & Dawood now.
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In this image released by the White House and digitally altered by the source to diffuse the paper in front of Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House, Sunday, May 1, 2011, in Washington.


From the picture, it really looks as if Hillary is in charge, and Obama is one of the assistants to the Military suit.
Wonder what she's shocked about ? Perhaps she saw the "Woman shield" used by OBL ?

OTOH, I think Pakistan very well knew that OBL was right next to their a@@es. The Pak Govt did not have the guts to take him out, for fear of shame and loss of image in the Islamic world. So they quietly let the Americans do the job, and perhaps may have even passed on the information beforehand.


The idea here is that the specialist should take the lead. Political big boss can take back seat at times!
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The white house is considering releasing some photos of OBL's body. The photos which are making the internet rounds are fakes.

What India needs is very low key operation to eliminate Dawood.
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Jaysit wrote:
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Pakistan is in big trouble....they protected the slime of humanity for over a decade.


Yes, but will your "liberal" Pesident and govt be liberal with Pakistan or really going to call out Pakistan on all of this? This is something I'm interested in knowing.


He already acted liberal. Said in his speech that "We and Pakistan have eliminated the man together"


It's called diplomacy. And speaking softly, but carrying a big stick. A very big stick. And it worked. What did you want the US to do? Drop a bomb on Islamabad? Scream and shout like the Shiv Sena about how evil Pakistan is? At the end of the day, the Americans had to depend on covert operations within Pakistan, and to that extent needed Pakistani spies within the system, and working below the ISI and Islamist radar.

And that's why Obama ordered the attack without informing the Pakistanis first. Only after Osama was killed was Zardari informed. Why? Because in the past, whenever the PK authorities were informed about covert ops. someone within the system sent the information to Al Qaeda. This entire operation has depended on working below the ISI radar, giving Leon Panetta, Head of the CIA, free reign and $$$ to find OBL, and tightly controlled intelligence. Apparently, one of the first diktats Obama gave the CIA in January 2009 was to find OBL by hook or by crook.

Oh, and yes, I think the mumbling you hear in America is the sound of Republican "Presidential" candidates with the foot of Osama's rotting corpse shoved down their collective throats.


No, the mumbling you hear in America is hypocritical liberals like you who hated anything military until your god, your chosen one, got Obama. Nice.
But hey, we know that about you already, now don't we?

His "bounce" will evaporate. Hell, there may not even be a bounce? Why?

Because, back here in America, loud and clearly, we know the REAL HEROES are the Navy Seals, those black ops guys who took down the world's worst scum.

The real heroes were the people who created Guantanamo, who waterboarded the idiots to get information, and created the entire anti-terrorist superstructure after 9/11. This created the opportunity to get Bin Laden.

Congrats to Obama for finally using the tools that GW Bush left him. I hope he eventually, quietly realizes that CANDIDATE Obama was wrong, and the policies of Bush when it comes to terror have been proven right.
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Actually, the Indian media (and generally the world media) should stop focussing on OBL and concentrate on Pak lies.

The more you discuss about the man, the more of a martyr he becomes.
No one should really care whether he was buried or dumped..Whats all this Scholar opinion nonsense ? What was their opinion when several innocents were killed on 9/11, 26/11, 26/7 etc ?
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Actually, the Indian media (and generally the world media) should stop focussing on OBL and concentrate on Pak lies.


Infact,the Indian media have already started concentrating on Pak's lies.Ever since Monday,when the news broke out that Osama was killed in Abbootabad near Islamabad,many Indian news channel were concentrating on where he was killed rather than about the man himself.

Yesterday if you'd have watched Times Now,its editor in-chief Arnob Gosami was swift to point out the 10 Pakistan's lies in fighting against terrorism.In his show,The NewsHour,he asked the question to one of his Pakistani guest that why is Pakistan shielding terrorists ?

To which the guest replied that Pakistan has taken stringent action against AlQaedas and we have killed many of the other terrorists.He also went on to say that our Intelligence network were passing on imp info to the US about the wereabouts of Osama.

Foreign Media,though,can't expect them to focus on Indian side of the story.It is upto the Indian contigent to send the message to the foreign News Channels, when they are invited for a News Programme.Or the Indian News Channels should point out the Pakistan's lies to any of the foreign guests invited for the show.
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Osama's will forbids his children from joining Al Qaeda: Report

By Indo Asian News Service | IANS – Wed, May 4, 2011

Kuwait City, May 4 (IANS/AKI) Al Qaeda founder Osama Bin Laden did not want his children to join the terrorist organisation, the Kuwait-based Al-Anbaa newspaper said citing his last will and testament.

In a four-page document dated Dec 14, 2001, written on a computer and signed 'Your Brother Abu Abdullah Osama Muhammad Bin Laden,' the late Al Qaeda leader predicted he would be killed as a result of a 'betrayal' and ordered his wives to not remarry.

He prohibited his children from taking part in his terrorist organisation and from 'going to the front', the newspaper said.

Osama apologised to his children for the lack of time he spent with them due to his devotion to Jihad.

Various reports say bin Laden fathered between 12 and 26 children and married four women.

Bin Laden, believed to be 54 years of age, was killed early Monday in Pakistan by US special forces.


If this report is to be true than this story is almost similar to that of the then LTTE chief Mr Prabakharan who also did'nt allow his family members to carry on his fight for a separate Tamil state in Sri Lanka.

Hope this wakes all the so-called radiclist, who worship Osama that he is a self-centered person, who is spreading message of hate to his fellow citizens while he and his family members are living a normal life.
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Pakistan is caught with its pants down..A country that claims to be a big "victim" of terror, harbors the biggest terrorist of em all..and not in some remote village hut in a tribal area..(thats atleast granted) but in a freaking sprawling mansion in the heart of the city, right next to the Military Academy...and for months and years together..
There is simply no escape for this blighted country..I am also completely unsure whether they will receive any US aid in the near future..lawmakers on both sides of the Senate/Congress will be hardpressed to pass it and yet explain to their voters..In a way it exposes the cover off of the American aid policy too..aid for what ?

Providing lodging and boarding expenses to OBL ?? Rolling Eyes

This ""victimhood" sympathy mongering is now completely ruled out as an option for the Pak Govt.

India should either make an aggressive demand to speak to the "real" Govt (aka Army) ..or cut off bilateral relations completely..
It is quite clear that the so-called democratic Govt is completely powerless..
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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India should either make an aggressive demand to speak to the "real" Govt (aka Army) ..or cut off bilateral relations completely..
It is quite clear that the so-called democratic Govt is completely powerless..


That's right , India should up the ante...

But like the good Gandhian neighbour, New Delhi will sit on its a$$ and say nothing Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am also completely unsure whether they will receive any US aid in the near future..lawmakers on both sides of the Senate/Congress will be hardpressed to pass it and yet explain to their voters..In a way it exposes the cover off of the American aid policy too..aid for what ?


I wouldn't count on that. Deep within the system, the US of A has always continued the divide and rule policy instigated by the Britishers two centuries ago. If a few million dollars is what it takes to maintain the hatred and the distrust between Pakistan and a country rumoured to be the next superpower to challenge their dominance- India, so be it. If pro-terrorism activities had indeed been the grounds for negating aid to countries around the world, Pakistan would never have received any of it ever. Osama or no Osama.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/World-failed-to-unearth-Osama-bin-Laden-Pakistan/articleshow/8161931.cms

They have gone nuts now..This coming from so-called Head of State is a joke..to say the least.

Some comments to this news article are hilarious
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the reaction through out Pakistan after the news of Osama's death,most of them were moved to tears and offered prayers to him.I get the feeling that the moderate forces in Pakistan will never be able to stamp thier authority and will allow fundamentalists to decide which direction Pakistan goes.

It is so scary to see that majority of the Pakistanis have not demanded political,social and economic reforms like other Middle East countires.Instead most of them want to follow the footstep of radical Osama and AlQaedas.
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel Pakistan will self-destruct.Because of their so-called democratically elected leaders are not able to make constitutional amendments where some of the army powers are removed.Mr.Gillani and others are not able to answer many questions from US,France,UK and others as to how they did'nt know that Osama was there.

Also the so-called Kashmir liberators,created by the Pakistani establishment to cause head-aches to India, are slowly acting against their creators.As a result Pakistani government are not able to handle them.Taliban and Al Qaedas have made it clear that Pakistan is now their enemy no.1 and not the US.We will expect some terrorist attacks in Pakistan.They really don't know who is under control of Pakistan.

Hence Pakistan will self-destruct if their moderate forces don't wake up now and call for reforms and act against the fundamentalists.
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with the Pakistani establishment is that they are terribly insecure and can't keep their fingers from meddling where they don't belong. This , more than anything else, is going to finish them.
Pakistani support for Al Qaeda and the Taliban has more to do with being able to use them as pawns in strategic games, rather than any common ideology. And Pakistan is known to treat its pawns with a high degree of dispensability. They use and throw others at their will.
Not to take away any credit from the US special forces, but Pakistan could have continued protecting Bin Laden if they wanted to. The entire operation to nab OBL had virtually no interference from the Pakistani forces, despite them being present in large numbers a few yards away. I believe Pakistan didn't raise a finger to stop the Americans from getting Bin Laden because he too had either become dispensable, or too hot to handle. No one really knows what may have gone on between the Al Qaeda leadership and the Pakistanis. They may have had a serious fallout on some issue.
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There is a conflicting reports as to how did the combat operations take place on that day.The initial reports suggested that Osama did'nt retaliate and the US forces were able to easily kill him.His 3rd wife tried to block the Navy Seals from shooting at him.But she was shot at her leg and was later taken to the hospital.Now she is under the Pakistan's custody.

Now some the Congressmen are saying that if Osama was unarmed than why was'nt he captured alive and taken to the US custody.But for the last two days the White House officials are saying that he and his guards were armed and they fired at the US forces.To which the US forces fired back lots of bullets on his face.

Meanwhile in yesterdays interview to CBS News,Obama said that the person killed was indeed Osama Bin Ladin.He said he won't release the photograph of Osama's death because it is so 'Gruesome' that it will give the radical forces more leverage to launch terror attacks.Seeing this picture will create more 'Jihadists'.

So far, no one is able to confirm what had actually taken place.There are conflicting reports coming daily.And there is more confusion as to whether the dead person was indeed Osama or not.Some of the Pakistani locals feel it was not Osama.
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