Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Indigo update          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message himmat01 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Indigo update Indigo gets CAT III approval. http://book.goindigo.in/skylights/cgi-bin/skylights.cgi?module=MP&page=PRESS Quote: Delhi December 14, 2006 - IndiGo, India's newest low-fare domestic carrier, today announced that it has received CAT-III approval from the DGCA to operate in fog conditions. With over 40% of its pilots already trained to operate in low visibility conditions, IndiGo will be able to maintain significantly better operations during the fog season this winter. Speaking on the upgraded capability, Bruce Ashby, President and CEO of IndiGo said, "We had a plan to have CAT-III approval and over 40% of our pilots trained to operate in fog conditions by December 15th. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: CAT II A or B??? There's a difference in them... If its CAT II B then folks there will be no fog delays next year when you fly any airline or maybe even this year now every airline's gonna do it _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Well hasn't Indigo done it before the likes of 9W and S2. If yes more power to them. Btw anyone with any knowledge on their traffic share and load? Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: AKLDELNonstop wrote: Well hasn't Indigo done it before the likes of 9W and S2. If yes more power to them. Btw anyone with any knowledge on their traffic share and load? Cheers Dad noticed good loads from BOM on their flights... Also personally i feel IndiGo can do well with their strategy but at the current cost of ATF, employee pay and fare war its difficult to earn those profits which could have been possible _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: With HO in DEL.Makes sense to have few crews CAT III trained. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Article in Business Standard says how Poaching of pilots is helping in Cat Operations. Most are ex-IA, which makes it easier. Also the expat pilot population, esp from countries affected by snow and rain are making life simpler. Quote: http://www.business-standard.com/economy/storypage.php?leftnm=3&subLeft=1&chklogin=N&autono=268275&tab=rPlane truth: Poaching gives airlines CAT edge P R Sanjai / Mumbai December 16, 2006 With fog setting in, fledgling airlines are suddenly getting Category (CAT) II and CAT III certifications, which are mandatory for operating under low-visibility situations, such as fog or poor weather conditions. The strategy of poaching experienced pilots from carriers, such as Indian Airlines, is now paying off for new domestic carriers. ..... “Newer airlines have poached experienced pilots from Indian Airlines and experienced expat pilots from various international airlines and are directly getting CAT III compliance without waiting for three years,” a source said ..... Back to top JumboJet Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Go Indigo Go _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Personally i feel things will change soon as IndiGo will announce these things in their coming ads and news articles on them. Naturally other private carriers will be eventually forced to prepare their pilots for III B _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Not a lot of people really take those very early morning flights before 6 am. I did DEL-BLR early morning in Jan on DN and the flight was almost empty. So I doubt the fog actually affects that many domestic passengers. Although if delays are caused throughout the day as a chain of events due to the first flight being delayed, then perhaps its good Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Discounted Fares & Cat III rating will bring in the crowd. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: AKLDELNonstop wrote: Not a lot of people really take those very early morning flights before 6 am. I did DEL-BLR early morning in Jan on DN and the flight was almost empty. So I doubt the fog actually affects that many domestic passengers. Although if delays are caused throughout the day as a chain of events due to the first flight being delayed, then perhaps its good Cheers Fog delays are right from morning 5.30-6.00 to 10.30-11 and this happens to be the peak hours of travel into DEL. Considering this fact CAT IIIB is essential. Besides as Mel said low fares+no fog delays for IndiGo might get them better loads _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: For us its between 2200hrs to 0300 which has detaled Fog plan action.Fog i strikes normally clears post 2300hrs.Not considering Start up delays ex Bom & landing traffic at Del. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top malQ Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Delhi, India Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Somebody else's delay is somebody else's early arrival in these days of fog at DEL. the LOH was to fly PNQ-DEL on the 1st and was booked on 9W, but she got free earlier so made it to Lohegaon at around 1515, to learn that 6E's flight BLR-PNQ-DEL was about 4 hours behind schedule, at 1600. Bought a ticket at almost the same price (5174.oo on Indigo vs 4950.oo on Jet) and boarded, reached DEL at 1800 without any in-air hovering or congestion. Things have been chaotic since for flights to/from DEL, as we all know, but good on Indigo for this one!! Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Has anyone flown in indigo??? Was reading the latest issue of OT wen i came across their advertisement. It appears that even they also have introducted roving agents as being publicised by Jet & Kingfisher. Plus another novelty which they seem to be talking about is Indigo gizmo Its nothing but a step less stair which they claim cuts boarding time by 50%. Its more like a z reversing pathway similar to what we find in DHR for gaining height. so anyone seen this gizmo or has pics of the same. _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: VABBy wrote: so anyone seen this gizmo or has pics of the same. Seen a Stepladder in a Z shape at BOM.Looks weird & I did not notice the mechanism though. Takes a lot of space. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: HAWK21M wrote: Seen a Stepladder in a Z shape at BOM.Looks weird & I did not notice the mechanism though. could you explain that in greater detail if possible Mel, i'm quite curious. what is this gizmo exactly? _________________ eP007 Back to top himmat01 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:05 pm    Post subject: Quote: could you explain that in greater detail if possible Mel, i'm quite curious. what is this gizmo exactly? _________________ Save Maharashtra! Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Wow - thanks for that picture Himmat. I guess this is really convenient for wheel chair pax, as they can be wheeled all the way up/down, and there's no need for an ambulift? Back to top HAWK21M Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Although positioning of this Stepladder is not very easy & takes a lot of space. regds MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Two question here:- 1. is the step ladder just one of a kind or is it going to be the norm now?? 2. Sky chef van? Does indigo, being an LCC, provide free meals on it's flights? Cheers Shivendra Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: shivendrashukla wrote: 2. Sky chef van? Does indigo, being an LCC, provide free meals on it's flights? Mate remember Jumpin, water and cookies are served to pax aboard the flight so i guess thats wat is being supplied by the Sky Chef Van _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Nimish wrote: Wow - thanks for that picture Himmat. I guess this is really convenient for wheel chair pax, as they can be wheeled all the way up/down, and there's no need for an ambulift? Normally catering vehicles are used. Also there must be stairs and not smooth surface...so no special advantage for wheel chair passengers. PS: Clicked this one at BOM. Now there's a difference _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top Aiel Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Still can't get it. Won't using the Z shaped boarding thingy take more time, as u have more to walk. _________________ My Flickr photos My JP.net account Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Aiel wrote: Still can't get it. Won't using the Z shaped boarding thingy take more time, as u have more to walk. Yes ofcourse. Also more space i guess _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: All i can think of is that :- 1.somehow these sidesteps are some kind of collapse able types so that they can be easily stored when not in use. 2. It may be that these are someking of special sidesteps in which we can raise or lower the height so that it can be used for different aircraft types. Still doesn't make sense to me. Cheers Shivendra Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: shivendrashukla wrote: 1.somehow these sidesteps are some kind of collapse able types so that they can be easily stored when not in use. 2. It may be that these are someking of special sidesteps in which we can raise or lower the height so that it can be used for different aircraft types. I totally agree with you.... on both your points _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top Aiel Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: shivendrashukla wrote: 2. It may be that these are someking of special sidesteps in which we can raise or lower the height so that it can be used for different aircraft types. but don't they have only one type of aircraft? A possible reason: more space to write their slogan along with their website. _________________ My Flickr photos My JP.net account Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: avijeet your pic is nt working so cant make out much as to what u wanted to show if u can repost the pic it will gr88 thanks _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: VABBy wrote: avijeet your pic is nt working so cant make out much as to what u wanted to show if u can repost the pic it will gr88 thanks Here you go: Link _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top stealthpilot Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: heheh thanks a lot Himmat. _________________ eP007 Back to top VABBy Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: I guess using of these gizmo,s are nt the part of standard operating procedures becoz avijeet,s pic also shows that they are using conventional ladders also. Just wondering hw many gizmo,s do they have ?? And is it that only when some wheelchair bound person has to board these flights that the gizmo is attached _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com Back to top Nimish Member Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: VABBy wrote: And is it that only when some wheelchair bound person has to board these flights that the gizmo is attached Vabby - someone mentioned that the gizmo has stairs, and hence is not suitable for wheelchairs (which was my impression based on looking at the structure). Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: In Chennai, its a modified cargo hilift. The same contraption was used for former PM Vajpayee. Indian and 9W use the wheelchair till the tarmac. Then the cargo handlers manually lift the handicapped person in the wheelchair up the regular passenger stairway. If its an aerobridge, you are wheeled in till the door. Once inside they "manually adjust you into your seat again", and preferably near the aisle and the toilet. In Air India, the handicapped get preference of seating in J. Air India also uses the Indian and Jet way of transferring a passenger. Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: VABBy wrote: And is it that only when some wheelchair bound person has to board these flights that the gizmo is attached There are stairs....its not flat else it would be too steep to climb especially for elders _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top shivendrashukla Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Guys, About a month back i travelled from DEl-GAU and back. While comin back i took this pics of Indigo in DEL on my Nokia 6630. I transferred it today to my PC and guess what!!! The same step ladder is in use in DEL also. Sorry for the quality as taken inside a spicejet bus and with a cell phone. Have a look:- Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Im guessing they are using these gizmos in DEL only. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! 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