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747-237 Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11365 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:27 am Post subject: 30th Anniversary of "Kanishka" |
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June 23 marks 30 years of this tragic day.
Sharing some pics from the personal collection of my father.
(Hopefully our resident stealin' SOBs; Bharghav Thantry, Yogesh Naik and perhaps another few, would have some respect for the dead, and their property ! )
The newspapers in Bombay, of the next couple of days; from 30 years ago.
I still remember the panic at home, when we heard an AI 747 had gone down. For the second time in about 8 years, my mother was besides herself trying to find out if it was my father's flight that was the unfortunate victim. After several calls to AI ops & movement control, she was told it was not. He was, however, in Perth.
The last time my old man flew Kanishka was in April of that year.
The Air India crew newsletter, published in July 1985 was dedicated to the crew. My father lost some good friends and co-workers that day. On this second to last flight to Toronto, Capt. Narendra visited my uncle in Ottawa, and spent a weekend with him at his place. Capt. Bhinder served in the Indian Air Force with my father, though in different transport squadrons.
Kanishka's delivery flight - on her stop over at LHR, Sept 1978.
I always found this cover to be a graphic representation of perhaps her very last moment.
My personal reminder of a great airplane.
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The_Goat Member
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Sad day for Indian aviation.
What makes it worse is that other than that one guy who pleaded guilty for manslaughter, none of the other perpetrators have been brought to book and will most likely not every be. The Canadians, for all their talk of efficiency and being "committed to justice", made a mockery of the trial by destroying evidence and generally scr***ing things up. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
-Jasepl |
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sabya99 Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2011 Posts: 1399 Location: New Jersey/CCU
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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I remember the day after the crash of Emperor Kaniska at international terminal, JFK airport. The doom and glum of meeters and greeters clearly visible to me. Hopefully domestic politics will not spill overs to airline business again. _________________ Sabya99 |
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sumantra Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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I remember that ghastly day, especially the evening, when a reporter of The Statesman came to our place. One of the people on board was a neighbour, one of my father's colleagues. Dr. Y. Nayudamma was a famous scientist on board the ill-fated plane (whom my father happened to know, as well). Our acquaintance had boarded the plane at JFK. The next few days in the locality were completely unnerving. His nephew had gone to Cork, subsequently. Very sad memories... |
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PAL@YWG Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 438 Location: YWG, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | What makes it worse is that other than that one guy who pleaded guilty for manslaughter, none of the other perpetrators have been brought to book and will most likely not every be. The Canadians, for all their talk of efficiency and being "committed to justice", made a mockery of the trial by destroying evidence and generally scr***ing things up. |
True indeed. The Killers were never punished, they roam scot free in B.C.
The present government recently prohibited women wearing hijab taking oath in citizenship ceremony but a person with turban is exempted from secondary screening at airports. They brought in a law for secondary screening for turban wearing people but had to drop that off quickly due to strong lobbying from influential groups! _________________ Tally Sheet:
41 Countries ||55 Aircraft types ||60 Airlines ||75 Airports |
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himmat01 Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:19 am Post subject: |
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I clearly remember that day. Captain R P Mathur and dad informed me about the tragedy that evening. They then drove down to Captain Bhinder's place to meet his wife and kids.
Captain Bhinder's son is now a Captain in 9W.
Flight Purser Sampath Lazar's son serves in AI as Flight Purser. _________________ Save Maharashtra! |
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TKMCE Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Very sad memories
Sampath Lazar's family was on the plane except one son.
I remember my father speaking then about Dr Nayudama being on board. He was a former head of CSIR. |
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sri_bom Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Sad day for Indian aviation. I remember I was in high school when this incident happened and if memory serves right there were more bombs placed which blew up at Narita but luckily the plane was on ground.
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sumantra Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:06 am Post subject: |
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himmat01 wrote: | Flight Purser Sampath Lazar's son serves in AI as Flight Purser. |
TKMCE wrote: | Sampath Lazar's family was on the plane except one son. |
I seem to recount a member of the cabin crew with the same last name, will it be possible to specify his full name? I would have never guessed this....I cannot remember which aircraft type, the Dream)liner, or the B777, or the B744 in the mid-2000s.
Thanks, Sumantra. |
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himmat01 Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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It's Sanjay Lazar. He was brought up Mr. Silvera who was also a Flight Purser in AI. _________________ Save Maharashtra! |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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himmat01 wrote: | It's Sanjay Lazar. He was brought up Mr. Silvera who was also a Flight Purser in AI. | Himmat Sir, I still cannot place the name with the aircraft type he usually is on/used to be on, in the mid-2000s. I simply cannot remember where I have seen the name on the AI badge.
Thanks, Sumantra. |
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Jeh Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 669 Location: Delhi, India
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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sumantra wrote: | himmat01 wrote: | It's Sanjay Lazar. He was brought up Mr. Silvera who was also a Flight Purser in AI. | Himmat Sir, I still cannot place the name with the aircraft type he usually is on/used to be on, in the mid-2000s. I simply cannot remember where I have seen the name on the AI badge.
Thanks, Sumantra. |
I'm pretty sure the wide body crew at AI (and Jet too, I think) can work on any of the wide body aircraft, so you could have met the person in question on any of those flights. |
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justbala Member
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sumantra Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4685 Location: New Delhi
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Jeh wrote: | I'm pretty sure the wide body crew at AI (and Jet too, I think) can work on any of the wide body aircraft, so you could have met the person in question on any of those flights. | True Jeh, and on the ex-IC, there were cabin crew who worked on both the A32S and the A332s, when the latter were around, something I have seen till VT-IWA and VT-IWB were in service.
justbala wrote: | I guess this is the person in question...And by the looks of it... | Hmm...the dates mentioned narrow down my hypotheses, as I can see from my flight log, but I'm still not sure, since I flew both B744s and A310s before the `merger', and B77Ls and B77Ws in that time period. 2004-2008/9.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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The_Goat Member
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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A lawyer working as a flight attendant
My word, that's a first! _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
-Jasepl |
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sumantra Member
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himmat01 Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:22 am Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: |
A lawyer working as a flight attendant
My word, that's a first! |
You'll be surprised, there are a lot of B Tech and BEs working as FAs in AI. _________________ Save Maharashtra! |
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Jaysit Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the Online Memorial to the Crew and the Aircraft.
Very well-done and heartfelt.
I was at MIT back then, and remember waking up on Sunday morning to the news on the Indian radio channel in Boston. As an Indian, one can never forget the moment one first heard of the crash. |
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747-237 Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 11365 Location: Gordon Gekko's Boardroom
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Jaysit wrote: | Thanks for the Online Memorial to the Crew and the Aircraft.
Very well-done and heartfelt. |
Thanks....appreciate it. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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himmat01 wrote: | The_Goat wrote: |
A lawyer working as a flight attendant
My word, that's a first! |
You'll be surprised, there are a lot of B Tech and BEs working as FAs in AI. |
BEs and B Techs I can understand.
They are a dime a dozen in India nowadays, as there are more engineering colleges than barber shops in the country. How many can the industry absorb?
But lawyers?
I guess if he is the filmy type, the inflight announcement would be on the lines of 'Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome aboard Air India. Main Gita pe haath rakhkar kehta hoon ke is viman se nikalne ke liye aath dwaar hain
Sorry to derail the serious thread with my nonsense, 747-237 _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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The_Goat wrote: |
Sorry to derail the serious thread with my nonsense, 747-237 |
Thanks ... though I guess it was derailed a long before you jumped in, my friend _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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