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HAWK21M · Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: GoAir Status

Whats the Latest with GoAir status as an Operator.
Rumour is that Three of their Seven A320s are being returned & Few personnell have recvied Notice letters.
Is their any more info on this.

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malQ · Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject:

Well, I believe schedule integrity is getting impacted, there was an article in the TOI about the DEL-PNQ-MAA flight operating 4 hours late last Saturday 3rd February, which means it would have left DEL around midnight and arrived MAA around 4:30am or so.

Also saw VT-WAW (GoAir??) A-320 which looked like it had been brought back to "all white" parked at a remote bay in DEL.

If this is the shape of things to come, then it will make sense to stay with the tried and tested, both as pax as well as employees.

Karan69 · Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 1334

The last i remember reading was that 2 A320s were to be returned resulting in the closure of a minimum of two routes.

i just hope my flight on SAT goes well with them

Karan

HAWK21M · Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject:

Karan69 · Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 1334

For the BLR Airshow mate

Karan

Nimish · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:29 am Post subject:

COUGAR · Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore

I am no GoAir fan: never flown them and never will. However i do think that incident about their Pune flight was basically because a group of passengers goaded by one nasty leader was acting oversmart. GoAr was offering them a free ticket on the same sector as compensation for the delay but the the group of 10 or so passengers were intent of getting more: they wanted a free ticket AND a refund!!

Just the feedback I got from a friend who works for a state-owned carrier!
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malQ · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:08 am Post subject:

Said state owned carrier is, interim, getting it fleet back to speed and enhancing capacity (including I am told a morning DEL-PNQ-GOI-Cochin flight, with an interesting early morning Cochin-GOI-PNQ-DEL flight with a different aircraft . . . and chopping the PNQ-GOI on the PNQ-BLR flight)

Most data suggest enhanced travel needs this summer, so Go Air's explanation that capacity is being reduced for summer slack is slightly off.

More likely that the overall scenario with Wadia/Brittania and DanOne and most of all the leases in Mumbai are not so healthy anymore. So, time to peel off out of aviation for the first?

And after the Air Sahara/Jet Airways mess, nobody would offer to buy it either, probably.

HAWK21M · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject:

COUGAR · Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore

MalQ: The news i got was that the DEL-PNQ-GOI would op only on 3 days of the week replacing a direct flight that currently operates on that route.
DEL-PNQ-COK would also be 3/4 weekly. DEL-PNQ-COK would replace another DEL-BOM-COK flight currently operating. No idea about another aircraft operating return flight and all zat.

I dont think the GOI tag on the BLR flight is to be dropped: but i have been told it will be reversed: ie BLR-GOI-PNQ-BLR. again Not sure why. In addition IC's will be back on MAA-BLR-PNQ and vv which it used to operate profitably until 9W stepped in and IC mysteriously pulled out! Rumor then was that 9W pulled strings with the govt to pressurise IC to withdraw from 2/3 sectors before it deployed capacity. Among others routes was the morning PAT-DEL non-stop service. Well anyways: they are coming back on both those routes!
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malQ · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject:

The day IC starts a double daily on DEL-PNQ-DEL, I am going to revert to IC. Had enough of S2, frankly, and their shuddering seats and dipso cockpits. Jet new timing for 364 is a bit too late in the evening for my return PNQ-DEL. Am OK with Indigo for DEL-PNQ afternoon flight, but for PNQ-DEL I want to be home on Fridays for dinner and more.

Yup, Cougar, even I heard initially that the various GOI/COK options would be 3x/4x, but seems that 7x will be the milk run that will work, something about linking with an ex-COK international flight and routing the crew and all that IC jazz. Anyway, will wait for it, and am actually looking forward to IC 320s after 5 years of assorted 737s and Alliance 737-200 before that.

malQ · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject:

Oops, since this is a GoAir thread, let me inform you that commercial staff of other airlines at DEL were all agog with news of GoAir letting people go by various methods, and probably closing down Ahmedabad.

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COUGAR · Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Bangalore

There is no flight operating PNQ-COK! The dicussion went on a slight tangent: discussing IC's new routings!
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HAWK21M · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject:

Nilanjon · Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 85 Location: Bangalore

Go Air has just updated their website for their summer timetable. I could figure out the following changes (which seems to confirm their fleet reduction) :

They have dropped both Bangalore-Delhi connections - the direct flight as also the Bangalore-Hyderabad-Delhi flight.
Also, the Pune-Chennai flight has been dropped.

Bangalore-Mumbai has been combined with a Mumbai-Delhi flight - so it is Bangalore-Mumbai-Delhi.
Now they have added a long Delhi-Cochin flight with hops in Mumbai and Bangalore --> Bangalore-Cochin being the new flight.

Birendra · Member Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411

How soon before GO air goes Sad

AKLDELNonstop · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland

Hmm things not looking too good for Go Air. I hope most of the airlines can stick around till '10 when the new infra should make things better for the airlines.
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Maybe it is just waiting for it's own A320s to be delivered. The delivery starts in Sept. 07.
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the_380 · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject:

HAWK21M · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject:

Personally I feel 1-2 Operators will close shop or Sell out by 2008.
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HAWK21M · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject:

Birendra · Member Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411

Will the merger that was going to take place between Jet and Sahara ever take off, i guess it's better than Sahara shutting down shop Rolling Eyes

the_380 · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject:

Nimish · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject:

Birendra · Member Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411

Will the arbitration proceedings be aired on national television.

Nimish · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject:

LAXDESI · Member Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Los Angeles

I think Kingfisher should be interested in Sahara if international flying norms are not reduced to three years.

Nilanjon · Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 85 Location: Bangalore

Check out the latest story to dent their image :

A BLR-DEL flight was 18 hrs late !!

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/india/03_2007/airline-abandons-150-passengers-for-18-hours-34974.html

I found it bizarre that they took off at 1 AM today morning knowing that there was fog in Delhi.

Could not understand why Go Air could not do a simple thing like putting the passengers on some other airlines today morning. Finally, they put them on a Spicejet flight at 15:00 today.

Problem I feel is that the station managers in these new airlines do not have the authority (also financial) to take decisions that in the long run, protect / enhance the customer image of the Airline.

Watched the story on CNN-IBN and TIMES NOW.

A guy called Manoj shot a video on his mobile and sent it to CNN-IBN. After landing at Bangalore, the passengers were loitering around the runway, and the cabin crew just disappeared Crying or Very sad

Jeh Wadia came on both channels and apologised and said Go Air would compensate the passengers.

On Times Now, the atrocious thing was that Warwick Brady came on the show and claimed that such problems are faced only by smaller airlines like Go Air !! On being questioned, he of course admitted that such stories were common in Air Deccan's case 3 years back, when they were much smaller in size. While I agree to his argument, it's a pity that such experiences can happen in DN even now !!

Had it bee in the US, people would have sued them for damages.

Actually, even now, people with enthu can approach the Cosumer Rights court and claim damages.

shivendrashukla · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject:

malQ · Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject:

Done two DEL-PNQ on GoAir in the last few days, once on VT-WAA/green and other on VT-WAX/red, and apart from the fact that they have super-silent pilots, also observed that the aircraft are looking old, inside.

On VT-WAA, 06th March'07, the aircraft almost turned into the track that connects the active runway to the bay, and then had to do the round turn required to let the airplane waiting to take a right turn on the runway.

On VT-WAX, 13th March'07, we slowed down well before approaching Pune, and then hovered overhead for a bit. After that, on short finals, suddenly a go-around with all the attendant engine noise increase and people wondering what's going on.

Both times, not a word from the cockpit, or anybody else.

Seems GoAir/G8 are withdrawing from the DEL-PNQ and PNQ-DEL sectors around 26th of March'07. Capacity on this route is dropping, with S2 replacing 2x737 with 2xCRJ and IC providing a 319x1. Also, Kingfisher which came in with a 319 double-daily on this route scaled down to a 320x1.

HAWK21M · Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:11 am Post subject:

VABBy · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL

Well yeah CNN-IBN has this concept called Citizen Journalist where u can shoot stuff using ur mobile and send it thru mms to them and they wud report it .. Well the ppl were seen loitering on the tarmac around the aircraft only.

He also showed the condition of the galleys of the A320 which jst had thrash all over with no crew to be taking care of aircraft
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HAWK21M · Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:46 am Post subject:

Legally The Citizen journo could be arrested for shooting on the Tarmac.That would be embarrasing.
Smile

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shivendrashukla · Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject:

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HAWK21M · Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject:

Birendra is correct.
NO TARMAC PHOTOGRAPHY PERMITTED.And no photos at defence Aerodromes.

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