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Megatop · Member Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 257 Location: Bangalore

BLR - Daily 747-400 from current daily 777.

MAA - 5 / week 777-200 - no change.

CCU - 3 / week 777-200 - no change.

DEL - 2 x Daily 747-400 from current 2 x daily 777.

BOM - Daily 747-400 + Daily 777-200 - no change.

HYD - No news

avbuff · Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5031

i really think at least one of the european airlines should consider a destinations in kerala

I really think BA should commence LHR - COK or LHR - TRV

B772 · Member Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 167

This is likely to be further updated. BA have announced intentions of enhancing services to CCU. Their have been the odd reports in the media that 4 new direct services to DAC will be launched with a halt at CCU in both directions. IF this happens BA will become daily non stop to Kolkata.

Nimish

malQ

victor2alpha · Member Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 120

Yeyeyeye 744 to BLR!! Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.. I normally see their flight depart ( that only if RWY27 is in operation..) around 7ish here.. I guess they kinda run late most of the time..
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VABBy · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL

Bt isnt a transit visa for transfers at LHR deters ppl. I mean isnt that an added hassle and expense
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blrsea · Member Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 182

Nimish · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject:

G-BYGB · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject:

WOW!

Unbelievable considering its been only one and a half years since BA started its non-stop BLR-LHR flight.It shows that BLR is bcoming a prefered destination than MAA,not only for passengers but also for airlines as well.Hope we can see AF,SQ and TG operate their flight with B744 some day.It'll be even more great.
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Megatop · Member Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 257 Location: Bangalore

dears G-BYGB & nimish,

yes, BLR is happening.

just browsed thru the latest edition of the Harvard Bus. review, was amazed to find BLR in bold typeface on the world map showcasing BA's latest club world product, among the likes of HKG, CHI, BOS, TYO & SIN. MAA & CCU were missing from the map, even BOM & DEL were'nt highlighted.

the flamboyant launch of BA's blr flight at heathrow crying out 'BA galore' is proving worthwhile for them, with an upgrade so early that even LH took 5 years to do.

clearly, BA with a better product & a more professional crew is winning head-on over LH at BLR & even AF is enhancing its service with a 777-200 having a F cabin starting winter.

LH has managed to maintain its stronghold at MAA with BA scaling back its 6 weekly 744 service during winter 2005 to a 5 weekly 772 starting summer 2006.

& when BA moves to T5 at LHR, we can expect a changi & Sq like offering under a single roof without a nightmarish terminal change.

a BA 744 take-off from BLR at dawn is indeed an awesome sight, but i doubt prices would head downward.

also, we cannot expect SQ / TG to operate 744s to BLR, AF has a chance in the years to come,

SQ's seriously considering a second departure from BLR in the morning. we need to contend with LH & BA at the moment.

TKMCE · Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 957

It is not that BA suddenly woke up to higher potential of BLR over MAA. They as well as VS knew this long ago. Only stumbling block was the restrictive India UK bilateral which was held up primarily over more Air India access to Heathrow.

Full marks to Praful Patil, who has opened up the bilaterals with many many countries during his tenure. Far more than any of his predcessors.

While Lalu is getting all the credit for his liberalisation (if any) of the railways, I feel Praful Patel has done far more in the aviation side.

Nimish · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:10 am Post subject:

blrsea · Member Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 182

I flew SEA-LHR-BLR recently on BA and the service was good, flights were on time, and luckily made it through with my bags intact Smile

AF needs to change its flight out of BLR to similar time like BA to provide more connections to US.

Karan69 · Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 1334

G-BYGB · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject:

Megatop,SQ's flights from BLR are always full.So it is possible for SQ to operate B744 atleast thrice a week , along with B777-300ER on the remaining days for their daily flights to BLR.Last year one of their senior staff told me that they will soon upgrade it to a larger acft.That could b a B744.
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G-BYGB · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject:

Even though the services of BA are good,I still can't imagine how people can afford to pay so much of money to fly by BA.
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G-BYGB · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject:

AFAIK BA is by far the costliest airline in Europe if not the world.
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blrsea · Member Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 182

superman · Member Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 42 Location: USA

Surprisingly BA is showing the best fares currently on the BOS-BOM sector for fares starting in fall. I guess they are dropping fares to attract those pax who are hesitant to go through the hassle of transferring through LHR and also those from countries that need Airside Transit Visa.
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G-BYGB · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject:

Megatop,another thing I forgot to mention is that SQ operates its flights to HKG on 744 and the journey time is 3:40 which is similar to that of BLR.So I don't see why SQ will not operate its flights with B744,not only to BLR but also to other Indian metros as well.
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Nimish · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject:

malQ · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:18 am Post subject:

We have about 4-6 people a month on BOM-SFO, and of late, date to date, we seem to be achieving the same levels with both SQ and BA. So we prefer BA because (a) it saves time and (b) the young people who travel seem to be happier with BA.

That's about as simple as it gets.

Megatop · Member Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 257 Location: Bangalore

G-BYGB,

SQ's HKG flights are heavily patronized by premium paying pax for the front-end cabins of 744 sky suites & of late the 777-300-ER.

i doubt flights to/from india get the same patronage, btw, the 744 terminator to HKG is timed in the afternoon, when none of the SIN-india flights depart & the other 744 service is a different issue altogether, with the perennial full flights onward to SFO.

i perceive their 777s are better than the rickety 744s, with slightly better legroom & a wider aisle.

SQ's plan for India is to go twice daily to BLR, MAA, DEL & BOM(which it already does) & daily to HYD & CCU by 2009, according to a recent press statement.

BA's not the most expensive atleast to LON, CHI, NYC, BOS, WAS, at the moment.

but it is exorbitant to DEN, SEA, TPA, MCO, PHX, BWI.

SQ's services from BLR are'nt just full, they're overbooked frequently.

& malQ,

A lion's share of BLR-Bay Area traffic is commanded by SQ & LH. the likes of BA & TG have miniscule portions for themselves, unlike BOM, where a lot of west coast traffic uses the ubiquitous trans-atlantic route.

& karan,

LH's market skimming strategy is now rolled back atleast for Y class as seats are easy to secure with a decent advance booking period.

also, the news of all airlines upgrading BLR leaves me to ponder over AI's plight at BLR. what a disgrace, there is'nt even a schedule or aircraft change for the past 5 years. it has now lost its lucrative DXB route to EK as it did with SQ to SIN in 03 & ended with a codeshare. shame.

stealthpilot · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB

Nimish · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:00 am Post subject:

G-BYGB · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject:

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Nimish · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject:

Megatop · Member Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 257 Location: Bangalore

nimish,

no concrete info abt 9W's BLR-LON flt. guess its just a rumor.

9W is no far from AI when it comes to serving BLR. with kingfisher giving 9W sleepless nights at its home turf, 9W is slogging out of BLR. KF is constantly adding new flights from BLR by the month, while the last increase by jet was abt. a year & half back. infact, its has reduced flts to DEL, MAA, HYD from blr.

im pretty sure BA will do whatever it can to monopolize the BLR sector. BA will have the cake for itself & eat it too, being the entrenched player.

& not to forget, BLR & BOM are different markets altogether, with differing consumer buying preferences. BLR is more of a loyalty & quality based environment, while BOM is more of a price sensitive setting.

Jaysit · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346

G-BYGB · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject:

Whether or not 9W and AI will operate int'l services from BLR ,it is clear that foreign carriers have targeted BLR as a imp destination and they want to reap the benefits from it as soon as possible.
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the_380 · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject:

G-BYGB · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject:

Are AI and 9W waiting for the new int'l apt at BLR which is to be operational from apr next year?
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stealthpilot · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB

Megatop · Member Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 257 Location: Bangalore

dear stealthpilot,

thanx,

u did my job, u replied on my behalf & in the positive. a response that was long pending from my side.

i cannot better appreciate ur understanding of my comment on blr vs. bom.

the_380 & G-GYGB, agreed with ur inputs.

maybe someone's oblivion to the south based lucrative markets of blr, maa, hyd has marred the initiative of expression in the forum & its intended motives.

regs. Confused

Jaysit · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346

stealthpilot · Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB