Airliners-India.com Flickr Group & Facebook    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Air India Emergency Landing Blocks IGI main Runway Goto page 1, 2  Next          Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message sri_bom Member Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2365 Location: Singapore Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Air India Emergency Landing Blocks IGI main Runway NEW DELHI, April 9, 2007 (AFP) - Flights from New Delhi's international airport were delayed Monday by an Air India jet blocking the main runway following an emergency landing, the state carrier said. The aircraft, which arrived in New Delhi from Shanghai via Bangkok carrying 169 passengers, developed landing gear problems before touching down at Indira Gandhi International Airport, where passengers were evacuated safely. "We are trying to see that the aircraft is taken off the runway," said Air India spokesman Venkat, who only uses one name. "The tip of the aircraft is still on the runway. Our engineering department is working on it and soon it will be cleared," he told NDTV news channel. The landing gear of the Airbus A310 totally collapsed, said an official with the Airports Authority of India, which provides air traffic control services to the privately-managed airport. "Once the equipment which holds the weight of the aircraft collapses it is a very serious thing," said Robin Pathak. The airport has an auxiliary runway but with the main runway blocked for several hours, numerous flights were delayed. sri_bom Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Air India Emergency Landing Blocks IGI main Runway sri_bom wrote: Venkat, who only uses one name. How and why is that relevant? _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Heard that news on NDTV at around 10:00 AM today.Thank God eveyones alright. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: One passenger told the news reporters that the A310 acft was 20 years old.So its a wake up call then for AI.They have to scrap this old metal immediately for the sake of passenger safety.Otherwise people will stop flying by AI. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Back to top AKLDELNonstop Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: G-BYGB wrote: One passenger told the news reporters that the A310 acft was 20 years old.So its a wake up call then for AI.They have to scrap this old metal immediately for the sake of passenger safety.Otherwise people will stop flying by AI. Soon my friend soon. They will soon replace this aircraft as soon as they get their new ones, which will happen as soon as they can decide on a livery and soon as they can get the seats fitted at Paine, which will happen as soon as they can start thinking, which, may or may not ever happen. Cheers _________________ Geniuses are always misunderstood in their lifetimes. Back to top himmat01 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Does anybody know the registration of this aircraft? I guess, this one will have to be written off. _________________ Save Maharashtra! Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Air India Emergency Landing Blocks IGI main Runway AKLDELNonstop wrote: sri_bom wrote: Venkat, who only uses one name. How and why is that relevant? Because it is odd to refer to someone by only their first name so they were providing an explanation as to why they did it. Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: G-BYGB wrote: One passenger told the news reporters that the A310 acft was 20 years old.So its a wake up call then for AI.They have to scrap this old metal immediately for the sake of passenger safety.Otherwise people will stop flying by AI. Age has nothing to do with it. This can even happen to a new aircraft. Look at Northwest's DC-9s. Some are pushing 40 years old (if they haven't reached that already) and continue to operate without any major issues. Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Man, Air India seems to have really blown this. As source is on leave, time for another direct attack. Called up Nariman Point and of course it was a revelation for them. Tried to tone things down by saying I wanted details of the "minor accident to your aircraft this morning at the Delhi airport". Silence at the other end. "Accident?" Was transferred back and forth and there was no one at the PR department. Finally given the mobile number of the Asst. GM (PR) who was at Santa Cruz. After telling him again, he started mumbling something and put me on to Air India's chief PR guy who was also at Santa Cruz. More intent on telling me that he was a top officer in Air India. Said he will send me an email with all the details soon. When I asked him the call sign of the aircraft invoved, the chief PR guy was totally baffled. Asked me what it is. Told him its the equivalent of a car registration. (Man, this guy was the limit). Had to ask one of his sidekicks and heard him ask "whats the registration?" And the aircraft involved in the mess at Delhi is Air India's own veteran VT-EJJ (Beas). Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: http://www.thaiaviation.net/photo/albums/userpics/10007/thumb_VT-EJJ_2.jpg[img][/img] Code: [img][/img] _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Last edited by G-BYGB on Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:08 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: G-BYGB, it says page not found. KCM, good work as usual. But you know what i feel that guy was acting to avoid your questions, _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: the_380 wrote: G-BYGB, it says page not found. KCM, good work as usual. But you know what i feel that guy was acting to avoid your questions, Just cut and paste it w/o the IMG tags...and remove the "thumb_" for the bigger version: http://www.thaiaviation.net/photo/albums/userpics/10007/VT-EJJ_2.jpg Back to top saurabhm_101 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Mumbai Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: AI has really outcrashed itself! _________________ Flying High.... You and Me...! Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: sammyk wrote: G-BYGB wrote: One passenger told the news reporters that the A310 acft was 20 years old.So its a wake up call then for AI.They have to scrap this old metal immediately for the sake of passenger safety.Otherwise people will stop flying by AI. Age has nothing to do with it. This can even happen to a new aircraft. Look at Northwest's DC-9s. Some are pushing 40 years old (if they haven't reached that already) and continue to operate without any major issues. I agree on that. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Back to top saurabhm_101 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Mumbai Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: news just in! Another Ai flight making an emergency landing at DEL from DXB AI 736 dude to technical snag!!!! its a Boeing 767-300! _________________ Flying High.... You and Me...! Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Major airlines of the world are able to fly an acft for a long period of time bcoz of their good acft maintainence record.Unfortunately in the case of AI it is poor. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Back to top tsk911 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 223 Location: DEL Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: In total 2 emergency landings both by AI a/c within 6 hours.. _________________ Nalini... The Princess of the Sky... You are a star which will continue to illuminate your own A.net-India forever... Back to top himmat01 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: DEL Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: G-BYGB wrote: Major airlines of the world are able to fly an acft for a long period of time bcoz of their good acft maintainence record.Unfortunately in the case of AI it is poor. If AI MX standards were poor, this aircraft would not have been flying for 21 years. btw: AI Mx. is FAA and JAA certified. _________________ Save Maharashtra! Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: There were 65 passengers on this flight. Landed under full emergency conditions with a hydraulic problem. Was AI-736, and the 767 pilot informed the air traffic control about the problem. Back to top xterra Member Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 595 Location: DONT KNO Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: another one so this means that another 310 is shortly gng to join? lol ppl will start comparing AI a/c wid biman 310s now as both of em had similar incidents recently.. 65 passengers only on a 767? isnt that too less loads? Back to top deaphen Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 933 Location: India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: anyone willing to bet on if there will be a third one today?!? lol.... hat trick! nitin Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: himmat01 wrote: If AI MX standards were poor, this aircraft would not have been flying for 21 years. Very well said... _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top Prajay Member Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 217 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Another undercarriage problem With this i think all undercarriage problems occur mostly with Airbus a/c Few years back, An IC 320's under carriage collapsed just before takeoff roll at BOM. In 2004, about 4-5 Airbus a/c (mainly 320s) had the same problem. Is there a problem with the design of the 310 and 320 carriages.. Please enlighten me on this issue. Prajay Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: himmat01 wrote: G-BYGB wrote: Major airlines of the world are able to fly an acft for a long period of time bcoz of their good acft maintainence record.Unfortunately in the case of AI it is poor. If AI MX standards were poor, this aircraft would not have been flying for 21 years. btw: AI Mx. is FAA and JAA certified. Yes they (MX) indeed did a good job of making this acft fly for 21 yrs but then it did come with a risk.Not for this acft alone but for others as well.We've seen so many times where their acfts faced technical snag and had to be safely landed or be diverted to some other cities.Not to forget that today we saw AI's B767 facing this same problem. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: This causes discomfort for the passengers. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: One more thing these old acfts ,like VT-EJJ ,if they have to carry on further they'll have to be constantly checked by the mechanics more than wht they used to earlier when the acft was new. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Back to top Birendra Member Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: himmat01 wrote: G-BYGB wrote: Major airlines of the world are able to fly an acft for a long period of time bcoz of their good acft maintainence record.Unfortunately in the case of AI it is poor. If AI MX standards were poor, this aircraft would not have been flying for 21 years. btw: AI Mx. is FAA and JAA certified. True. Keeping something flying does take knack and talent u know Back to top sammyk Member Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2719 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: G-BYGB wrote: Yes they (MX) indeed did a good job of making this acft fly for 21 yrs but then it did come with a risk.Not for this acft alone but for others as well.We've seen so many times where their acfts faced technical snag and had to be safely landed or be diverted to some other cities.Not to forget that today we saw AI's B767 facing this same problem. I don't think AI does the maintenance on that 767. Last edited by sammyk on Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:03 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top vivekman Member Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1897 Location: BOM Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: The second one was a Boeing 767-300! Prajay wrote: Another undercarriage problem With this i think all undercarriage problems occur mostly with Airbus a/c Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Yes most of the airlines will have one bad day but its not as often as what you see with AI and even IC. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Back to top G-BYGB Member Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1813 Location: Bangalore/Delhi Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: There seems to be a rift b/w the management and the engineers.This seems to have caused some concern to the politicians as well.One politician by the name,Dinesh Trivedi told that,AI and IC have good engineers but this frequent problem will bring damage to the reputation of the national carrier. _________________ www.flickr.com/G-BYGB photos Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: The name quoted in NDTV was S.Venkat _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top C-GHKR Member Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 626 Location: yyz Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Mr. VM has posted the pic on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/vm2827/452451233/ Back to top tsk911 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 223 Location: DEL Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: AI leasing an A310 AI leases Czech Airlines A310 for one year. No information but pics available on Anet. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1191591&WxsIERv=Nveohf%20N310-324&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Nve%20Vaqvn%20%28PFN%20-%20Pmrpu%20Nveyvarf%29&QtODMg=Centhr%20-%20Ehmlar%20%28CET%20%2F%20YXCE%29&ERDLTkt=Pmrpu%20Erchoyvp&ktODMp=Znepu%2023%2C%202007&BP=1&WNEb25u=Crge%20Cbcryne&xsIERvdWdsY=BX-LNQ&MgTUQtODMgKE=Gbzbeebj%20jvyy%20yrnir%20CET%20sbe%20n%20bar%20lnre%20yrnfr%20gb%20Nve%20Vaqvn&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=4421&NEb25uZWxs=2007-03-24%2012%3A10%3A16&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=674&static=yes&width=1024&height=702&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Nveohf%20N310%27%29%20%20beqre%20ol%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=29&prev_id=1191822&next_id=1191590 http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1191590&size=M&width=1024&height=693&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Nveohf%20N310%27%29%20%20beqre%20ol%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=30&prev_id=1191591&next_id=NEXTID Any further info??? _________________ Nalini... The Princess of the Sky... You are a star which will continue to illuminate your own A.net-India forever... Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: It's a wet lease with three sets of CZA flight crew and a few senior cabin crew. Will mainly do India-SE Asia and a few Gulf routes. Will also be used o the Mumbai-Delhi corridor. Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Credit: By special arrangement. ---- this is what might appear in tomorrow's papers it seems!! NDTV had live footage of the plane. Has been floodlit and Air India has the additional embarrasement of coverage at night!!! Back to top karatecatman Guest Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Quote: Dinesh Trivedi .. will bring damage to the reputation of the national carrier. Trivedi, for some strange reason kept saying he wondered where Air India is getitng its spares from and kept implying that he has heard there are spurious parts. Pretty irresponsible of him to have said that. The tragedy of the coverage on the media today was that there was no one from Air India to speak for the airline in a comprehensive way. Of course there was S. Venkat, but here was Trivedi, a politician, and not someone from the airline or aircraft manufacturer, telling the viewing public of India what is wrong with both the airline and the aircraft. The irony couldnt be more telling. The problem with Indian aviation is that the political establishment, of which people like Trivedi is a visible symbol of, has just messed things up way too badly for the State carriers. It is they who are responsible for the sorry state --- much debating for decades over fleet renewal, cornering of flying priviledges, encouraging unions to play up, mess around with the management ... the list is endless. Another thing. on the one hand Here is an old aircraft that went tech, and bringing into focus the state of Air India's fleet, while on the other you have three brand new planes just idling in the sun overseas ... ... And NDTV had to make things worse. Got the worst set of hysterical passengers to talk to. The NDTV anchor had to say this. "Air India has the best pilots and engineers, but we leave it to you the public to decide whether you want to fly this airline." Last edited by karatecatman on Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:39 am; edited 1 time in total Back to top the_380 Member Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2329 Location: Mumbai, India Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Quote: And NDTV had to make things worse. Got the worst set of hysterical passengers to talk to. The NDTV anchor had to say this. "Air India has the best pilots and engineers, but we leave it to you the public to decide whether you want to fly this airline." True NDTV always hypes up cases of Air India even more than Indian. Quote: Of course there was S. Venkat, but here was Trivedi, a politician, and not someone from the airline or aircraft manufacturer, telling the viewing public of India what is wrong with both the airline and the aircraft. Mayb he thinks Mig spares and Airbus spares are almost the same. Thats why when people have accused defence ministry of getting lower quality MiG spares, he thinks he can accuse AI of getting low quality spares AI still gets spares from Airbus and Airbus related companies. And illiterate people will be ready to believe him. But true the condition of those spares in unknown. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/avsatsworld A Walt Disney and 20th Century Fox Audio Producer!!! Back to top XBValk Member Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 124 Location: NYC/COK Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: karatecatman wrote: Credit: By special arrangement. ---- this is what might appear in tomorrow's papers it seems!! NDTV had live footage of the plane. Has been floodlit and Air India has the additional embarrasement of coverage at night!!! Same pic is on the Business Line http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2007/04/10/stories/2007041004871000.htm Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Airliners-India.com Forum Index -> Civil Aviation All times are GMT + 5.5 Hours Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum New Members----------------Sign-up Guidelines Airliners-India----------------Civil AviationNon AviationTrip ReportsMilitary Aviation & SpaceInternationalAviation Polls & PreferenceTech/OpsAviation PhotographyEditorial/Analysis/ArticlesAviation HobbyAviation LawAviation Questions & CareersSite Related Flickr Group----------------Photo of the Month My Message Board----------------Pin Up  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group. 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