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rutvij
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Immigration Issue is purely due to staff shortage, and request has been lying for quite some time to allocate more staff. Signage was found appropriate by certain forummers and frequent travellers, just that most people aren't used to queuing in a disciplined, patient manner.
Right now, the biggest problem plaguing the brand new terminal is mosquitoes both outside the Main check-in hall, and inside. Again being addressed, but remains to be seen how and when it gets resolved.
@Mel: Gates 1-3 aren't developed yet due to AI GSD Complex standing right in front of the North-West section, occupying the apron space. It is being teared down, I was recently informed.
AI Hangars on the East side are also being taken apart, and piling work for the remaining half of the terminal has been initiated. South East Pier will be fully developed, and not truncated. |
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| rutvij wrote: | | South East Pier will be fully developed, and not truncated. |
Are you sure about this? All the recent drawings/renders show a truncated or "langda" terminal.
Hope they stick to the original design!
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Hello everyone once again.
Big brother rarely listens to me request when it comes to aviation (I'm sure all other big brothers are/were equally mean  ). He used the new Chennai International Airport terminal on the first day of use, while he was in the new BOM T2 just on the second day of use (yeah, third technically..post 0000 hours). I pleaded him to click pictures, since he rarely does so... (He flew on the B787 once more than me already, yet no pictures. Same with the Q400, although, 6 flights on that. Bummer.)
Anyways, he finally took a few snaps. And yes Sanjay sir, he actually did listen to me when I convinced him its got nothing to do with the contractors who built it! 
(Immigration looks drastically similar for some reason!  )
I spy a Cathay Pacific (Specific Blunder) Airways plane FAAAAAR away in the background. Why oh why would CX put passengers through the painful walk?
No comments on the A330-300 parked right in foreground. Probably Jet paid more than Cathay for this privilege?
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Thanks, Jishnu - for the nice heads up. However, I notice you taking a shortcut from writing a long-due TR, even if it may be on your Dada's behalf 
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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jbalonso777
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| sumantra wrote: | Thanks, Jishnu - for the nice heads up. However, I notice you taking a shortcut from writing a long-due TR, even if it may be on your Dada's behalf
Cheers, Sumantra. |
Indeed sir, I've noticed.
My mock examinations just got over this morning.. (technically..there is the last one in a week's time..) so I've been a bit more active of recent rather than 0 activity previously!
Plenty of exciting news coming up
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From: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Trouble-again-at-Mumbais-T2-part-of-false-ceiling-crashes-on-Air-India-staff/articleshow/31814648.cms
| Quote: | Trouble again at Mumbai's T2, part of false ceiling crashes on Air India staff
There's no end to the troubles plaguing the new international airport terminal T2. Less than a month after the spanking new building was inaugurated, a section of the false ceiling in the back office allocated to Air India came crashing down on Monday morning.
The false ceiling, made of Plaster of Paris, did not cause any injury to the airline officials present in the 800-1000 sq ft first floor office. "The incident occurred around 11am. About 20 Air India staffers were working in the back-up office at the time. The false ceiling came down along with a torrent of water. It scared the staffers," said a source. "There is a problem with the plumbing system somewhere. There was water and debris all over the office," the source added. The Mumbai International Airport Pvt Ltd (MIAL) spokesperson was not available for comment.
Soon after the incident, MIAL officials came to inspect the damage. "They said the leakage was caused by water from an air-conditioning duct. But it seemed to be leakage from toilets located above the office," said an airline official. Air India, being the national carrier, has a back-up office in T2 where it carries out job functions like rostering, allocating shift duties, handling of VIP flights etc. |
Is this a subtle message from MIAL to AI about paying past dues 
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| 3 of my colleagues, 1 friend and father travelled thru T2 recently and all complained of 2 things - long walk and mosquitoes |
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| Nimish wrote: | | About 20 Air India staffers were working |
Yeah right!
| ameya wrote: | | 3 of my colleagues, 1 friend and father travelled thru T2 recently and all complained of 2 things - long walk and mosquitoes |
The mosquitoes I believe. But the walk can't be that long, can it? The new structure isn't that big. And even in the old one, often you had to walk the length of the passage from gate to stairs and then back the same distance to baggage claim.
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Hi Jishnu, which airline is berthed between the 9W and AI birds? (The one with the blue nacelles)
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Delta
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jbalonso777
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| Spiderguy252 wrote: |
Hi Jishnu, which airline is berthed between the 9W and AI birds? (The one with the blue nacelles) |
Hey Varun 
Delta would be my bet...to AMS, I guess?
Not sure if its an A330 or B767, though.. |
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| Seems to be Delta |
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| jbalonso777 wrote: | | Spiderguy252 wrote: |
Hi Jishnu, which airline is berthed between the 9W and AI birds? (The one with the blue nacelles) |
Hey Varun
Delta would be my bet...to AMS, I guess?
Not sure if its an A330 or B767, though.. |
Delta A333, of course, with the winglet and the upward curving fuselage. |
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My mother arrived on a QR flight into BOM airport on a 77W.
STA: 0310hrs; ATA: 0257hrs.
Mother stepped out of the airport at exactly 0320hrs and reached Pune by 0615hrs in the morning when I called her.
She said there was absolutely no queue at the immigrations, and when she arrived at the baggage claim the bags took not more than 3-4 minutes to come across.
The customs just let her go without any handbag screening. |
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| avbuff wrote: | My mother arrived on a QR flight into BOM airport on a 77W.
STA: 0310hrs; ATA: 0257hrs.
Mother stepped out of the airport at exactly 0320hrs and reached Pune by 0615hrs in the morning when I called her.
She said there was absolutely no queue at the immigrations, and when she arrived at the baggage claim the bags took not more than 3-4 minutes to come across.
The customs just let her go without any handbag screening. |
Oh good - hopefully it's not just her getting lucky and that they have been able to sort out some of those teething problems.
I take it her flight was shorter than her drive?
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| jasepl wrote: | | avbuff wrote: | My mother arrived on a QR flight into BOM airport on a 77W.
STA: 0310hrs; ATA: 0257hrs.
Mother stepped out of the airport at exactly 0320hrs and reached Pune by 0615hrs in the morning when I called her.
She said there was absolutely no queue at the immigrations, and when she arrived at the baggage claim the bags took not more than 3-4 minutes to come across.
The customs just let her go without any handbag screening. |
Oh good - hopefully it's not just her getting lucky and that they have been able to sort out some of those teething problems.
I take it her flight was shorter than her drive? |
I hope so too. But I think it is more due to lesser number of flight arrivals at that point. The major ones being EK and QR filled B77Ws.
Oh yes and the drive to Pune is longer than the actual flight! at those hours its lesser, during traffic time its 4.5 hours approximately. But sadly DOH to PNQ logically is best done via BOM. |
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The good thing about the new airport is that the green channel really is a green channel.
No more running one's luggage through that scanner while Customs babus sit like crocodiles waiting for something to pounce on. |
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iah87
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| Unfortunately, India still needs scanners. May be random screening of bags. With rampant smuggling of gold, India has no choice but to have scanners. Many countries have it. |
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| iah87 wrote: | | Unfortunately, India still needs scanners. May be random screening of bags. With rampant smuggling of gold, India has no choice but to have scanners. Many countries have it. |
I think people should be scanned only for drugs and illegal weapons. It is absolutely silly that import duties should be charged for items like gold, electronics and liquor. It is an un-necessary remnant of our socialist past.
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| The_Goat wrote: | | iah87 wrote: | | Unfortunately, India still needs scanners. May be random screening of bags. With rampant smuggling of gold, India has no choice but to have scanners. Many countries have it. |
I think people should be scanned only for drugs and illegal weapons. It is absolutely silly that import duties should be charged for items like gold, electronics and liquor. It is an un-necessary remnant of our socialist past. |
The rupee dived and people started hoarding gold and the imports went through the roof. Unless gold imports are restricted, India would be forced to spend the foreign currency reserves on items which are not critical. Unfortunately gold is No. 2 item to be imported next to petrol products, which India cannot do without. |
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| iah87 wrote: | | Unfortunately, India still needs scanners. May be random screening of bags. With rampant smuggling of gold, India has no choice but to have scanners. Many countries have it. |
I would agree with the random screening.
Aren't the bags scanned before they get to the belt anyway, if they find something odd/suspicious they could mark it and have it checked on the way out. Seems like a waste to screen all the luggage again.
Honestly as a customer I wouldn't mind if they screened the baggage as long as it was efficient. As long as I didn't have to wait in queue etc I wouldn't have a problem with it. Even the hand luggage, if they must do it there's no need to keep a passenger waiting even 10 seconds. Train/hire more people and get more scanners it's not complicated
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Mumbai airport planning tunnel to link terminals
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India’s Mumbai International Airport presented a plan to develop a 600m tunnel linking the airport’s first and second terminals, to provide transport of passengers, cargo and luggage (TR-Bureau, 13-Apr-2014). Construction of the tunnel is expected to more than halve transit times between the two terminals, which at the moment takes around 25 minutes. |
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600m is a nice short journey - easily walkable too if you have like 10 minutes to spare. It will definitely make connections much easier!
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| Nimish wrote: | | 600m is a nice short journey - easily walkable too if you have like 10 minutes to spare. It will definitely make connections much easier! |
Installing travelators in the underground tunnel should make the commute 'seamless'.  |
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From what I have read, this will be an Air-side below grade road link joining the 2 terminal apron areas which is ~600m, not an underground passenger concourse linking the 2 terminals. And this far a distance is practically too long to be traversed using travelators for marketable connections. Besides, the new T2 has been constructed already and there is no way it can accommodate this new connection, unless its moved further north in the T2 complex/envisioned GVK SkyCity complex slated to come up right across the T2 Car Park.
This is a much better approach for the time being. To further bolster it, they can add a third line to Metro Line III joining T1 with T2, which will be required if LCCs stay at Terminal 1. |
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| rutvij wrote: | | This is a much better approach for the time being. To further bolster it, they can add a third line to Metro Line III joining T1 with T2, which will be required if LCCs stay at Terminal 1. |
Metro Line 3 already has stations for CSIA Domestic (Santacruz) and CSIA International (Sahar) with a station for Sahar Road in between.
This should suffice for people wanting to travel from T1 to T2 and vice versa, no? Unless of course, the trains are too crowded to permit folks with bags and stuff to board...
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| I would be foolish to discount crowds in a Metro line that connects no less than 3 business districts, connects various suburban and envisaged metro lines, and travels through some densely populated/commercialized areas across most of its stretch. Hence, a separate line 3/ Track 3 on Metro Line 3 will serve the same purpose as Airtrain or airport Skytrains, minus the commuting crowd. All they have to do is dig one additional tunnel, put up 2 additional platforms and have a single train running to-fro every 10-15 minutes. All depends on how GVK decides to arrange the Cargo Terminal vis-a-vis LCC traffic. If they win Navi Mumbai Airport contract, I think either LCC or Cargo or part of them will move to NMIA, leaving just about the same traffic as handled today, for which the proposed under grade road should suffice. If LCC Terminals stay, Metro/ATPM type link makes more sense. |
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Whats the plan on A380 first flight to BOM on 30th....whats the STA like....
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External trains which connect other parts of Mumbai will not work as domestic-intl transit. The only way is to have a dedicated train connecting all terminals for passengers only. Until then the new terminal will not have any impact on the difficulties for connecting passengers and many will continue to avoid BOM as a result of this.
Also if the new airport is built, I doubt if LCC's want to move there. It will be too far and put them at a competitive disadvantage. The new airport should be for non-Indian carriers and for cargo, with the Indian carriers still using the existing airport and hopefully taking advantage of the close in airport. |
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| HAWK21M wrote: | | Whats the plan on A380 first flight to BOM on 30th....whats the STA like.... |
MEL,
~ 2230 Hrs ARR
0015 Hrs DEP |
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| rutvij wrote: | | HAWK21M wrote: | | Whats the plan on A380 first flight to BOM on 30th....whats the STA like.... |
MEL,
~ 2230 Hrs ARR
0015 Hrs DEP |
This is 30th May 2014 ... right...
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| HAWK21M wrote: | | rutvij wrote: | | HAWK21M wrote: | | Whats the plan on A380 first flight to BOM on 30th....whats the STA like.... |
MEL,
~ 2230 Hrs ARR
0015 Hrs DEP |
This is 30th May 2014 ... right... |
Affirmative MEL! |
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Interesting night.....awaited.....bay #17 I suppose.
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| HAWK21M wrote: | | Interesting night.....awaited.....bay #17 I suppose. |
Yes MEL. Thats the one. The only A380 Gate at T2 for now. The SW pier is going to get stretched with A380 loads. |
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Is there only one Code F gate at BOM airport now? Hard to believe.
I thought there are at least 4 code F gates. |
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OVERALL PLAN IS TO HAVE 4, RIGHT NOW THERE ARE IIRC 2 GATES READY.
SORRY ABOUT CAPS, MY KEYBOARD SEEMS TO BE STUCK
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| last hear. . only one gate which is 380 compatible |
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Until they get a few more A380 aerobridges in place they would need to stagger the flights.
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| Last update I got, they have total 3 planned, 1 completed and in-use for Code E and lower. |
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Whats the plan on the right side of T2...The tarmac is being dug up but the old terminal is still standing...looks one ghost town at night....
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