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Banuthev
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 Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: Kingfisher Airlines reschedules Chennai – Colombo in W10 |
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As per 07JUN10 GDS timetable display, Kingfisher Airlines is to reschedule Daily Chennai – Colombo service, effective 31OCT10. The revised schedule appears to be paving way for a new route to Colombo, which is being undisclosed for the moment.
Schedule below:
IT061 MAA1250 – 1405CMB 320 D until 30OCT10
IT061 MAA0600 – 0750CMB 320 D from 31OCT10-
IT062 CMB1505 – 1640MAA 320 D until 30OCT10
IT062 CMB2100 – 2250MAA 320 D from 31OCT10-
http://airlineroute.net/2010/06/07/it-maacmb-w10/ |
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me111993
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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The new destination has to be BOM or DEL.
These new flights will connect well with their LHR flights, regardless of which ever destination they start.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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MAA - CMB 0600 0750
CMB - XXX 0900 XXX
XXX - CMB XXX 1945
CMB - MAA 2100 2250
The idea is to connect to LHR so it looks that BOM will be the destination. However the connections would not be that great. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| avbuff wrote: | MAA - CMB 0600 0750
CMB - XXX 0900 XXX
XXX - CMB XXX 1945
CMB - MAA 2100 2250
The idea is to connect to LHR so it looks that BOM will be the destination. However the connections would not be that great. |
replace xxx with BLR and that is how it was when BLR-LHR was operating. It will probably be BOM but as OCT 10 is some way away, IT probably do not want to announce the new route just yet. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| d3vski wrote: | | avbuff wrote: | MAA - CMB 0600 0750
CMB - XXX 0900 XXX
XXX - CMB XXX 1945
CMB - MAA 2100 2250
The idea is to connect to LHR so it looks that BOM will be the destination. However the connections would not be that great. |
replace xxx with BLR and that is how it was when BLR-LHR was operating. It will probably be BOM but as OCT 10 is some way away, IT probably do not want to announce the new route just yet. |
Are they waiting for Oct 9?
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d3vski
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| jasepl wrote: | | d3vski wrote: | | avbuff wrote: | MAA - CMB 0600 0750
CMB - XXX 0900 XXX
XXX - CMB XXX 1945
CMB - MAA 2100 2250
The idea is to connect to LHR so it looks that BOM will be the destination. However the connections would not be that great. |
replace xxx with BLR and that is how it was when BLR-LHR was operating. It will probably be BOM but as OCT 10 is some way away, IT probably do not want to announce the new route just yet. |
Are they waiting for Oct 9? |
If you look at previous announcements of new routes, they normally advertise and confirm 4-6 weeks before launch. This has been there strategy: Announce a new route, offer low intro prices, offer extra miles for Kingclub, 25% off redemptions etc etc |
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iah87
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Atleast they advertise a month or two ahead unlike AI. AI announces a week before the launch (IAD) and then the flight disappears from the reservations and again appears. |
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jasepl
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| d3vski wrote: | | If you look at previous announcements of new routes, they normally advertise and confirm 4-6 weeks before launch. This has been there strategy: Announce a new route, offer low intro prices, offer extra miles for Kingclub, 25% off redemptions etc etc |
What kind of strategy is that? One designed to keep revenue at a minimum for the maximum possible time?
You announce the route first, start selling tickets later, and then start flying it.
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d3vski
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| jasepl wrote: | | d3vski wrote: | | If you look at previous announcements of new routes, they normally advertise and confirm 4-6 weeks before launch. This has been there strategy: Announce a new route, offer low intro prices, offer extra miles for Kingclub, 25% off redemptions etc etc |
What kind of strategy is that? One designed to keep revenue at a minimum for the maximum possible time?
You announce the route first, start selling tickets later, and then start flying it. |
Whats the point announcing a route six months in advance when circumstances can change beyond all recognition if something goes wrong. They sell tickets for six months and suddenly something goes wrong or the tamils regroup and destroy CMB airport and then they are suddenly left with a liability for all those tickets they sold.
They are probably making tentative plans for a winter schedule. The plan may not even come to fruition.
The 4-6 weeks lead in is working fine for IT. Thats what they did with the DEL-LHR/HKG/KTM/BKK routes. |
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me111993
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| jasepl wrote: | | d3vski wrote: | | If you look at previous announcements of new routes, they normally advertise and confirm 4-6 weeks before launch. This has been there strategy: Announce a new route, offer low intro prices, offer extra miles for Kingclub, 25% off redemptions etc etc |
What kind of strategy is that? One designed to keep revenue at a minimum for the maximum possible time?
You announce the route first, start selling tickets later, and then start flying it. |
This strategy used for marketing new routes is perfect. You cannot simply go on advertising a new route for 6 long months! Plus no one ever books confirmed tickets 6 months in advance, you'll find some VFR passengers booking 8-9 weeks in advance, max, not before that.
Discounts offered on redemption as well as fares is done to build a passenger base for that new route... That is very important in the long run.
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Even though Kingfisher never started BLR-SFO, when they had plans to start this route, Dr Mallya ALWAYS mentioned this route in any press conference held, 6 or even 7 months before their tentative launch date. This is a good example of what I was trying to say in my previous post...
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Does SriLanka go for some DST or something ?
Sarcastic Q as it looks, comes because I see the block time being increased by 30 mins, for the same EQPT.
I dont have access to GDS, but something is fishy... props on the way to CMB ? |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| They tried it a few years back (oscillating between +5.30 and +6.00) but the experiment failed so they are back to +5.30 year-round. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| AirIndia0001 wrote: | | They tried it a few years back (oscillating between +5.30 and +6.00) but the experiment failed so they are back to +5.30 year-round. |
I think the only country in the vicinity to have had DST is Pakistan and it went ahead 30 minutes ahead of IST which was weird for the last 2 yrs .I dont think they are obv DST in 2010 are they?
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ameya
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Bangladesh also tried but failed.
but DST apart, why is IT taking this long then ? !
Same eq for all, but 30 mins more... |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Kingfisher introduces 3 new routes (Colombo - Kochi, Colombo - Trichy and Colombo - Trivandrum) and resumes Colombo - Bengaluru, effective 1st November 2010. ATRs are to be used for Kochi, Trichy and Trivandrum. A321 is for Bengaluru route. A320 is for Chennai. It appears to be Kingfisher's Chennai flight will use the Morning CMB arrival and Night CMB departure. All these flights will operate 7 weekly. Source: http://www.flykingfisher.com/flex/Schedules.pdf |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Good to see Kingfisher expand regionally, giving stiff competition to UL.
I wonder why they've resumed BLR-CMB though, on an A321 at that. Are they hoping to relaunch BLR-LHR? Because right now they can offer connections only to DXB, internationally.
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jasepl
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting. I'm not sure they have the right aircraft in the schedules though. ATRs with Kingfisher First? Also, the flight timings indicate that it's going to be the same aircraft doing MAA-CMB-TRZ-CMB-TRV-CMB-COK-CMB-MAA:
MAA-CMB....IT061....06.00-07.50
CMB-TRZ....IT075....08.35-09.50
TRZ-CMB....IT076....10.30-11.45
CMB-TRV....IT077....12.30-13.45
TRV-CMB....IT078....14.30-15.45
CMB-COK....IT079....16.30-18.00
COK-CMB....IT080....18.45-20.15
CMB-MAA....IT062....21.00-22.50
And if this goes ahead, then the rumoured CMB-BOM/DEL flight to connect to London was just speculation I suppose.
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