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karatecatman Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: Air Canada to reconsider India later |
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Air Canada, which will be taking delivery of the first of its 17 new 777s next week (Matt CAWBY'S pictures show the first 2 aircraft next to Air India's 777-200 LRs) has said that it will be reconsidering India only in 2010 or 2012 after it gets its new Dreamliner 787s.
If it happens, Air Canada has said it will be a nonstop service.
AC has said it will not give in to pressure and that India is a loss making destination. Its chief has said there are more profitable markets in Asia and that even a 767 wouldnt generate money for it on the India route.
The first new 777 will operate to Heathrow next week. |
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Karan69 Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 1334
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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They were nevr serious about the Indian Market from day one look at the number of business and schedule changes they have had over the years, right from the one stop via LHR to BOM to the non-stop from YYZ to DEL to the one stop via ZRH.
Bt the 787s would be the best bet for them--but heck 2010-12 seems a long way by then the likes of AI and 9W would have already captured majority of the market share to yyz/yul/yvr. from India
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AKLDELNonstop Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: Auckland
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Karan69 wrote: | but heck 2010-12 seems a long way by then the likes of AI and 9W would have already captured majority of the market share to yyz/yul/yvr. from India
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I also think at 2010-11 we will be facing a few capacity problems in terms of infrastructure like we are doing today because, the first phases of the airport expansions should be saturated by then, and the second phase would not have been completed. That is ofcourse assuming the growth continues.
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Nimish Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Air Canada to reconsider India later |
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karatecatman wrote: | Air Canada, has said that it will be reconsidering India only in 2010 or 2012 after it gets its new Dreamliner 787s.
If it happens, Air Canada has said it will be a nonstop service. |
As Karan says - they were never serious about this route and services to India. With an Indian population base as large as it is in Canada, I'm surprised that AC could not make this route work. It's also possible that they prefer to feed traffic to India on LH via the FRA hub - after all AC has multiple dailies to FRA from points in Canada, and LH has multiple flights from FRA to points in India. And if AI enters the *A, once again AC can feed to AI via LHR, CDG, FRA etc. |
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Jaysit Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 4346
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Any airline that says it can't make money on flights to India is run by a bunch of dolts.
I flew to India (KL to Del, and NW out of Bom) just last week, and all flights were full in both classes. I had to cancel my BA flight at the last minute and what do I discover? That all the European carriers were full in J class to BOM on the days I wanted to travel. Now, mid-March is not exactly a peak travel period, but you still have droves of people on the India flights (heck, even Alitalia was full in both classes on the Del and Bom routes). What was very interesting were the number of passengers connecting from the KL 744 from YYZ on to the Delhi flight. If airlines like KL can get Canadian passengers on their India flights even with a 5 hour layover in AMS, I just don't understand what AC are doing wrong. |
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Aseem Member
Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: |
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typically Canadian,...they wake up to realize the potential only when US and Europe have already milked it completely...then brood that they are nice and not that agressive...how stupid.. _________________ [url=http://openflights.org/user/aseemsjohri]
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stealthpilot Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: BLR, DXB
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Aseem wrote: | typically Canadian,...they wake up to realize the potential only when US and Europe have already milked it completely...then brood that they are nice and not that agressive...how stupid.. |
If AC think they can make more money on other routes let them.
What does any of this have to do with being nice and not aggressive? As far as i can tell AC are not brooding. _________________ eP007 |
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VABBy Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 823 Location: DEL
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:50 am Post subject: |
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I look at this thing in a pure business way. AC could have competed with other majors providing one stop flights or just withdraw the flight and explore routes with less competetion . They had an advantage wen they operated the route non stop they cudnt market it well so moment they introduced ZRH as an enroute halt they became jst another carrier providing one stop connections.
They instead of taking on competetion they decided to take the easy way out that is jst axe the route... _________________ Expeditors- You'd be surprised how far we will go for you www.expeditors.com |
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