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747-237 Member
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 1:00 pm Post subject: India to drop 'Viceroy' (VT) registration code |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3574080/India-drop-Viceroy-registration-code-aircraft.html
India to drop 'Viceroy' registration code from its aircraft after government says it his 'high time' it moved on from its colonial past
04 May 2016
India is to remove the 'Viceroy' tag from its airport codes, one of the last vestiges of its British colonial past.
The registration codes stamped on the side of all Indian aircraft have begun with the initials VT - for Viceroy Territory - since 1929. India's parliament has now launched a bid to replace the prefix, saying it 'high time' to move on from the country's imperial past. A parliamentary report said: 'The Indian civil aviation sector has grown stupendously and it can be compared to any other developed nation. 'The committee also feels that it is high time to set aside the sign of a colonial past and acquire a new call sign which appropriately denotes the Indian civil aviation sector.'
Previous efforts to change the prefix have faltered because no another code distinctly identifies India. The initial I belongs to Italy. Two-letter prefixes beginning with 'V' were once used by all British colonial territories. But many including Fiji, Nepal and Pakistan have since updated to codes reflecting their independent sovereign names.
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deaphen Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 933 Location: India
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I now regret paying taxes even more! Funding these ridiculous issues. |
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The_Goat Member
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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They kicked up this issue a few years ago, only to shelve it quietly.
Now is it being brought up again? _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
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Jaysit Member
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Now watch them squabble over whether it should be:
JH (Jai Hind)
BM (Bharat Maata)
GM (Go Maata)
RR (Ram Ram)
SL (Sunny Leone)
I vote for SL. |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Might I suggest "MF" ... it accurately describes every politician in the land, including his Khadiness, the Million FF Mile Man. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Aseem Member
Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: YYZ
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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one the side note, if NZ can think of dumping Queen, why can't we think of dumping VT.
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The_Goat Member
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3260 Location: South of France
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Jaysit wrote: | Now watch them squabble over whether it should be:
JH (Jai Hind)
BM (Bharat Maata)
GM (Go Maata)
RR (Ram Ram)
SL (Sunny Leone)
I vote for SL. |
I believe they had decided on VM (Vande Mataram).
But some people didn't want Vijay Mallya to be honored in this way. _________________ I don't know which is the more pampered bunch : AI's widebodies (the aunties) or Jet's widebodies (the planes).
-Jasepl |
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HAWK21M Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Is this Important......There are better things pending. _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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747-237 Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:12 am Post subject: |
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http://www.vccircle.com/infracircle/india-fails-discard-viceroy-territory-tag-aircraft-codes/
India fails to discard the ‘Viceroy Territory’ tag from its aircraft codes, again
August 28, 2016
Even after seven decades of Independence and several attempts by the government, including a recent initiative in May, India has failed to drop VT—it stands for Viceroy Territory—from its aircraft registration codes.
According to a senior civil aviation ministry official, who requested anonymity, the National Democratic Alliance government did try again to find a suitable code that will corroborate with the country’s name, but the negotiations had to be shelved as there is no code available that can be distinctly identified with India.
A second aviation ministry official, who also did not want to be named, pointed out that this isn’t the first time that the issue is being pursued.
In 2004, the aviation ministry had approached the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), a United Nations watchdog that governs international air transport and assigns these codes, requesting for two-alphabet prefixes such as IN (for India), BH (for Bharat) and HI (for Hindustan) in order to replace the VT code. But the ICAO told the then-NDA government, led by Atal Bihari Vajpayee, that the I-series was with Italy, the B-series was with China while HI was allocated to the Dominican Republic.
The issue had been regularly discussed with the ICAO since then, but “even now, no suitable code has been found, so that India can switch to it”, the second official added.
The issue gained traction when Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) parliamentarian, Tarun Vijay, raised the matter in the Rajya Sabha on 3 May this year stating it as unfortunate that VT is still being used in the codes allotted to Indian planes. This, he said, is a reminiscence of the British colonialism and India can no longer be a Territory of Viceroy, according to reports.
Following this, the government started re-negotiations, but it has come to naught, the second official said.
A Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) official requesting anonymity, admitted that it would be a tedious task if the current VT code is replaced.
“Besides updating the entire documentation till date, we also have to go through a complicated task of issuing Notam (Notice to Airmen) to globally inform airports and airlines regarding the change,” the DGCA official pointed out.
Queries emailed to the spokespersons of the ministry of civil aviation, DGCA and ICAO on 25 August remained unanswered.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:07 am Post subject: |
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And another round ......
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/at-last-indian-civilian-aircraft-set-to-drop-british-era-marking/story-OVU0cnRTW2gxxL9cxD175I.html
At last, Indian civilian aircraft set to drop British-era marking
Oct 10, 2016
India will make a renewed attempt to change the registration codes of civilian aircraft that begin with the initials VT (for Viceroy Territory), seen as a legacy of the country’s colonial past.
The VT code, stamped on the side of all India-registered planes, has been in use since 1929. It was retained by India after Independence even as other once-colonised countries like Pakistan, Fiji and Nepal opted for a revision.
The government has now decided to take a fresh look into the matter. “We are examining it,” aviation secretary RN Choubey told Hindustan Times.
A source in the aviation ministry said many feel continuing to use the VT code was odd. “We are planning to take up the issue with the International Civil Aviation Organisation,” he added.
“VT brings the British Raj to mind. What sense does it make for India to retain the code when most of the other countries with a colonial past have already got it changed? It should have been done away with a long time ago,” said an industry expert on the condition of anonymity.
This isn’t the first time India is mulling such a move. A similar attempt a few years ago met with little success because no code signifying India was up for grabs.
“We were keen on codes like IN for India, BH for Bharat or even HI for Hindustan. But we found they were already in use,” said another source.
However, Rajya Sabha MP Rajeev Chandrasekhar – who owns a Bombardier 350 corporate jet and a Cessna 172 Skyhawk – isn’t amused by the move to change the registration code. “VT is an intrinsic part of India’s rich civil aviation history. We are known as VT across the world. The code means Victor Tango to us. Changing it now would be a waste of time and energy,” he said. _________________ 11000 posts (and counting) on Airliners-India.
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Jaysit Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:09 am Post subject: |
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That stupid Hindustan Times headline makes a conclusion that the article doesn't support.
Typical. |
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himmat01 Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Too late for any registration which represents India. It's better to stick to VT. _________________ Save Maharashtra! |
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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First aircraft to use the "VT" code, in December of 1928. Would be a shame to lose this legacy.
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