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ameya Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:46 pm Post subject: W'13 domestic changes |
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Hi All,
Airlines have started finalizing schedules for WS'13 and I propose to start a thread which will capture all the details rather than putting it in individual airlines thread.
Like the DGCA data thread this, I feel, would help get all the data at a single place. |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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What is here and what is actually run might be different since there is still a long time to go for this.
IndiGo
Planned Station Launch : Ranchi
Additional flights
DEL-PAT-IXR-DEL
BOM-PAT-IXR-BOM
BOM-IXR_BOM
HYD-CCU-IXR-CCU-HYD
DEL-IXR-PAT-DEL
CCU-PNQ-CCU
DEL-IDR-DEL |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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There are rumours floating around that SG may cancel STV-BOM. I'm not sure if it true...
The flight has been doing poorly.. _________________ <a><img></a> |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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abhijith16 wrote: | There are rumours floating around that SG may cancel STV-BOM. I'm not sure if it true...
The flight has been doing poorly.. |
As of now. . No plans
Infact sg ll make bom ixc sxr n bom atq sxr both daily flights |
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himmat01 Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:09 am Post subject: |
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abhijith16 wrote: | There are rumours floating around that SG may cancel STV-BOM. I'm not sure if it true...
The flight has been doing poorly.. |
If at all this flight is cancelled, our friends in Surat will claim that this is a deliberate act by the GOI. _________________ Save Maharashtra! |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:17 am Post subject: |
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himmat01 wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | There are rumours floating around that SG may cancel STV-BOM. I'm not sure if it true...
The flight has been doing poorly.. |
If at all this flight is cancelled, our friends in Surat will claim that this is a deliberate act by the GOI. |
No, a successful victory for the lobby at Mumbai, whose airport traffic is 30% dependent on Surat! _________________ <a><img></a> |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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SG will launch non-stop direct daily flights from Chennai to Mysore effective from W13.
Hopefully, there will be a good amount of connections out of MAA! _________________ <a><img></a> |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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abhijith16 wrote: | SG will launch non-stop direct daily flights from Chennai to Mysore effective from W13.
Hopefully, there will be a good amount of connections out of MAA! |
Yes. BLR-PNY 6x weekly and MAA-MYS is how MYS and PNY operations ll be |
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Nimish Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | abhijith16 wrote: | SG will launch non-stop direct daily flights from Chennai to Mysore effective from W13.
Hopefully, there will be a good amount of connections out of MAA! |
Yes. BLR-PNY 6x weekly and MAA-MYS is how MYS and PNY operations ll be |
Nice cross pattern there . I guess the distance on BLR-MYQ is too short to be meaningful? _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:11 am Post subject: |
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The 9W early morning BOM departures
Again, this remains a possibility or a wishlist, final schedule might be little different than this, owing to airport constraints or change in plan by airline
HYD - 0200
DEL 0220
CCU 0245
MAA, AMD, BLR, PNQ JAI - 0300 |
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15a Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:21 am Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | The 9W early morning BOM departures
Again, this remains a possibility or a wishlist, final schedule might be little different than this, owing to airport constraints or change in plan by airline
HYD - 0200
DEL 0220
CCU 0245
MAA, AMD, BLR, PNQ JAI - 0300 |
In this list only pnq and jai are new - Hyd could be new if the 530 am flight moves there
The rest are all there. Can these operate out of the international terminal or is that perk reserved for ai |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:02 am Post subject: |
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HYD - they still wish to have a flight around 5:40-5:50
I wonder why they want to connect to JAI via BOM and not DEL. DEL-JAI is a shorter flight, an ATR can do it ! |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Is indiGo launching any new flights out of VTZ? _________________ <a><img></a> |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:08 am Post subject: |
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abhijith16 wrote: | Is indiGo launching any new flights out of VTZ? |
Daily and direct to Delhi, but all this will be progressive, not like first day of WS13 |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:35 am Post subject: |
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SG is likely to launch PNQ-SHJ or PNQ-BKK shortly, latest by WS'13
Their plan of launching BKK in S'13 was delayed for operational reasons and looks like they are now all set for BKK launch. |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:51 am Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | SG is likely to launch PNQ-SHJ or PNQ-BKK shortly, latest by WS'13
Their plan of launching BKK in S'13 was delayed for operational reasons and looks like they are now all set for BKK launch. |
Apart from SHJ and BKK, do they have any plans for SIN? _________________ <a><img></a> |
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Nimish Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | SG is likely to launch PNQ-SHJ or PNQ-BKK shortly, latest by WS'13 |
Cool! What would the competition be? _________________ We miss you Nalini! |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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abhijith16 wrote: | ameya wrote: | SG is likely to launch PNQ-SHJ or PNQ-BKK shortly, latest by WS'13
Their plan of launching BKK in S'13 was delayed for operational reasons and looks like they are now all set for BKK launch. |
Apart from SHJ and BKK, do they have any plans for SIN? |
SIN from ? I think they are not very keen on SIN start soon as of now |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nimish wrote: | ameya wrote: | SG is likely to launch PNQ-SHJ or PNQ-BKK shortly, latest by WS'13 |
Cool! What would the competition be? |
PNQ-SHJ ll have competition from AIX 4x PNQ DXB only |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:20 pm Post subject: IXC |
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SG intends to take the SG 151/152 rotation up north to IXC and SXR daily, with daily flights on BOM IXC SXR increasing from current 3x weekly, the BOM ATQ SXR flights ll also be daily
In view of the weather disruptions at IXC, 6E is decreasing frequency to 2 flights a day from current 3 with both in the afternoon.
G8 continues with existing early morning and late evening departures, which I suppose would be affected by fog if it is bad. |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: IXC |
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ameya wrote: | SG intends to take the SG 151/152 rotation up north to IXC and SXR daily, with daily flights on BOM IXC SXR increasing from current 3x weekly, the BOM ATQ SXR flights ll also be daily
In view of the weather disruptions at IXC, 6E is decreasing frequency to 2 flights a day from current 3 with both in the afternoon.
G8 continues with existing early morning and late evening departures, which I suppose would be affected by fog if it is bad. |
What happens to DEL-STV-BOM? _________________ <a><img></a> |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: IXC |
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abhijith16 wrote: | ameya wrote: | SG intends to take the SG 151/152 rotation up north to IXC and SXR daily, with daily flights on BOM IXC SXR increasing from current 3x weekly, the BOM ATQ SXR flights ll also be daily
In view of the weather disruptions at IXC, 6E is decreasing frequency to 2 flights a day from current 3 with both in the afternoon.
G8 continues with existing early morning and late evening departures, which I suppose would be affected by fog if it is bad. |
What happens to DEL-STV-BOM? |
Continues at existing times. No change in operations at STV
SG daily, CD some 6x weekly. No other operator, no change in timings. |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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AI-R will have LUH flights operate as DEL-LUH-IXC-DEL routing,
The LUH-IXC routing will be the shortest flight in India, if the proposed routing goes ahead
AI-R again proposed to operate 3 x CR7s this winter, as was the plan at the beginning of the Summer season
DEL-DED_LKO-DED-DEL will operate 4x weekly.
DEL-STV,BDQ,GAU evening runs continue
DEL-JLR-DEL CR7 runs also continue.
DEL-IXD-DEL will be a daily direct CR7 flight |
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abhijith16 Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | AI-R will have LUH flights operate as DEL-LUH-IXC-DEL routing,
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Why on earth would they want to do that? _________________ <a><img></a> |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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9W has not requested for slots at BBI. Its a well thought out pull out IMO |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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abhijith16 wrote: | ameya wrote: | AI-R will have LUH flights operate as DEL-LUH-IXC-DEL routing, | Why on earth would they want to do that? | There is a lot of political pressure for that flight, else LUH shouldn't have been on the air map in today's economic climate. On top of it, AI-R/CD have a huge shortage of planes. The BOM-GWL and IXD routes have been thrust on the airline, which is otherwise not deploying capacity on routes where it could make decent money (JLR is now 5x for instance, that too, with non-uniform timings for Sundays, and other days). SG is making a good amount of money on shorter routes, thanks to AI-R/CD's lack of planes. And their fleet replacement/augmentation plan could be on the backburner with AI's 19 NBs not yet coming in. Sad.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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GWL-BOM on a CR7 is still better than the AI 421/422 farce DEL-GWL-BOM and BOM-GWL-DEL near-parallel flights on an A319. There is some traffic on the GWL-BOM sector, as opposed to the DEL-GWL one, which is better served by the Bhopal Shatabdi. AGR is a terrible idea from BOM - the tourist traffic is mostly Israeli backpackers connecting from BOM on an El Al flight, and that too, they would want the weed joints of Manali/Kulu better - they come to DEL for that. The tourist traffic for AGR is mostly DEL-based, for which the road route and the Bhopal Shatabdi more than suffice. DEL gets you the Golden Triangle as well, JAI (which is somewhat worthwhile by air with a fair airport and good connections, add to it Rajasthan Tourism being the best Govt tourism organisation in the country.
Cheers, Sumantra. |
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15a Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:47 am Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | The 9W early morning BOM departures
Again, this remains a possibility or a wishlist, final schedule might be little different than this, owing to airport constraints or change in plan by airline
HYD - 0200
DEL 0220
CCU 0245
MAA, AMD, BLR, PNQ JAI - 0300 |
The schedules for these are up. All as per what Ameya had said except Jai. Finally 9 years after starting international service from BOM, they have had the sense to put international connectors.
Outbound from BOM
BOM-AMD at 0300, BOM-BLR at 0300, BOM-MAA at 0300, BOM-DEL at 0220, BOM-HYD at 0200 and at 0540, BOM-CCU at 0245, BOM-PNQ at 0400, BOM-UDR at 0500 and BOM-BDQ at 0530.
Inbound into BOM
AMD-BOM reaching BOM at 2230, BLR-BOM - one reaching BOM at 2310 and the other at 0050, MAA-BOM reaching at 2300, DEL-BOM - at 2340, HYD-BOM at 2300, CCU-BOM at 0005, PNQ-BOM at 0015, BDQ-BOM at 2140.
The new flights are the PNQ-BOM-PNQ rotation, the MAA-BOM-MAA rotation, the BOM-HYD 0200 AM flight.
The PNQ aircraft basically does DEL-PNQ-BOM and then BOM-PNQ-MAA - therefore creating one additional DEL-PNQ one way rotation (last flight at night from DEL) and one additional PNQ-MAA rotation (first flight in the morning).
I will post the other changes that I can see on the schedule later below |
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15a Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Other changes in the W13 schedule are largely around the 4 hubs of BOM, BLR, MAA and DEL.
BOM gets the most new flights
BOM-DEL goes 15 daily (return is 13 daily).
BOM-MAA goes up to 8 daily (return leg is 9 daily)
BOM-BLR goes up to 9 daily (10 daily on return)
BOM-AMD goes up to 6 daily (5 daily thus far)
BOM-IDR goes to 4 daily (all konnect)
BOM-HYD goes to 6 daily (4-5 daily in S13)
BOM-COK goes to 3 daily (2 daily in S13)
BOM-CCU stays at 6 daily
For BLR/MAA
BLR-MAA and vv goes to 8 daily (3 daily on ATR, rest on 737)
MAA-BLR-BBI gets replaced by MAA-BLR-IDR with similar timings.
BLR-DEL remains at 7 daily (8 daily from DEL)
BLR-GOI direct and MAA-GOI direct remain 1 daily (W12, BLR-GOI was 2 daily, MAA-GOI was not there)
From DEL
DEL-LKO goes 6 daily (2 daily ATR)
DEL-PNQ goes to 4 daily (3 daily PNQ-DEL)
DEL-ATQ stays at 4 daily
DEL-CCU goes to 3 daily (2 daily in S13)
New morning DEL-BDQ and vv
BBI goes out of the system. PAT goes to 2 daily (one each from DEL and CCU). |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. Interesting summary.
Eventually the PNQ legs to DEL/MAA would be done away with and the a/c would base there. The existing base - which arrives from BLR will go to AUH for the night run |
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TKMCE Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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SG 118 COK BOM DEL evening departure will be pushed back from 1840 to 1650. COK DEL and BOM DEL pax have a better chance of landing on time at DEL in case the dreaded fog sets in earlier than expected in the night as it now reaches at 2150 instead of the earlier 2315. However this innocuous move will mean serious trouble for SGs COK MLE Q 400 flight as they loose their traffic (quite significant) which connect from MLE via COK to both BOM and DEL in the Winter Schedule due to no same day connection on the return. Even more puzzling is that SG still have two later departures after SG 118s revised timing, between BOM and DEL in the Winter Schedule .
Anyway SG has now has gifted the BOM/DEL- MLE traffic to AI who is restarting their BLR MLE non stop flight and now they along with UL take the traffic given up by SG as most of the traffic from BOM and DEL are return traffic on package holidays. |
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ameya Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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The PNQ flight is not yet selling but all these looks interesting. I am sure BLR-IDR will be dificult to sustain for 9W, but if they can make it work it would be great. IDR is coming up as a good city for them. |
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nadarji Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:38 am Post subject: 9W restarts TRV-MAA, adds second daily TRV-BLR |
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TRV- BLR 2769 JetKonnect 11:45 13:20 27-Oct-13 29-Mar-14
BLR - TRV 2770 JetKonnect 14:30 16:05 27-Oct-13 29-Mar-14
MAA - TRV 2755 JetKonnect 09:35 1:115 134567 29-Oct-2013 25-Mar-2014
TRV - MAA 2756 JetKonnect 16:35 18:15 134567 29-Oct-2013 25-Mar-2014 |
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justbala Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:00 am Post subject: Re: 9W restarts TRV-MAA, adds second daily TRV-BLR |
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nadarji wrote: | TRV- BLR 2769 JetKonnect 11:45 13:20 27-Oct-13 29-Mar-14
BLR - TRV 2770 JetKonnect 14:30 16:05 27-Oct-13 29-Mar-14
MAA - TRV 2755 JetKonnect 09:35 1:115 134567 29-Oct-2013 25-Mar-2014
TRV - MAA 2756 JetKonnect 16:35 18:15 134567 29-Oct-2013 25-Mar-2014 |
This would be an ATR route. Looks like the reverse routing of the original ATR route, which used to be BLR-TRV-MAA-TRV-BLR |
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jasepl Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:18 am Post subject: |
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ameya wrote: | 9W has not requested for slots at BBI. Its a well thought out pull out IMO |
There is a Lala has a wife
And Lali is her name, yo
A-N-I-T-A, A-N-I-T-A, A-N-I-T-A
And Lali is her name yo.
And Lala-Lali's Jet Airline
Well, failure is it's game, yo
J-F-K (N-Y), K-U-L (M-Y), B-H-U-B-I, B-O-M-B-Y
So Fibga it became, yo. _________________ four years free of jetya punti! |
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avbuff Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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jasepl wrote: | ameya wrote: | 9W has not requested for slots at BBI. Its a well thought out pull out IMO |
There is a Lala has a wife
And Lali is her name, yo
A-N-I-T-A, A-N-I-T-A, A-N-I-T-A
And Lali is her name yo.
And Lala-Lali's Jet Airline
Well, failure is it's game, yo
J-F-K (N-Y), K-U-L (M-Y), B-H-U-B-I, B-O-M-B-Y
So Fibga it became, yo. |
ROFL |
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15a Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:08 am Post subject: |
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15a wrote: | ameya wrote: | The 9W early morning BOM departures
Again, this remains a possibility or a wishlist, final schedule might be little different than this, owing to airport constraints or change in plan by airline
HYD - 0200
DEL 0220
CCU 0245
MAA, AMD, BLR, PNQ JAI - 0300 |
The schedules for these are up. All as per what Ameya had said except Jai. Finally 9 years after starting international service from BOM, they have had the sense to put international connectors.
Outbound from BOM
BOM-AMD at 0300, BOM-BLR at 0300, BOM-MAA at 0300, BOM-DEL at 0220, BOM-HYD at 0200 and at 0540, BOM-CCU at 0245, BOM-PNQ at 0400, BOM-UDR at 0500 and BOM-BDQ at 0530.
Inbound into BOM
AMD-BOM reaching BOM at 2230, BLR-BOM - one reaching BOM at 2310 and the other at 0050, MAA-BOM reaching at 2300, DEL-BOM - at 2340, HYD-BOM at 2300, CCU-BOM at 0005, PNQ-BOM at 0015, BDQ-BOM at 2140.
The new flights are the PNQ-BOM-PNQ rotation, the MAA-BOM-MAA rotation, the BOM-HYD 0200 AM flight.
The PNQ aircraft basically does DEL-PNQ-BOM and then BOM-PNQ-MAA - therefore creating one additional DEL-PNQ one way rotation (last flight at night from DEL) and one additional PNQ-MAA rotation (first flight in the morning).
I will post the other changes that I can see on the schedule later below |
Wierdly the PNQ flights along with the additional BOM-DEL and BOM-MAA flights are now gone from the schedules - dont know if they didnt get slots dont have aircrafts or are planning to introduce them later |
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sumantra Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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jasepl wrote: | There is a Lala has a wife... | It was all the more hilarious, since I came back home after reading this, and found Junior listening to the original Nursery Rhyme (which he still loves, for some odd reason). Great (p)uns!
Cheers, Sumantra.
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ameya Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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May be HQ said no to the flights. the AUH HQ I mean |
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jasepl Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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jasepl wrote: | ameya wrote: | 9W has not requested for slots at BBI. Its a well thought out pull out IMO |
There is a Lala has a wife
And Lali is her name, yo
A-N-I-T-A, A-N-I-T-A, A-N-I-T-A
And Lali is her name yo.
And Lala-Lali's Jet Airline
Well, failure is it's game, yo
J-F-K (N-Y), K-U-L (M-Y), B-H-U-B-I, B-O-M-B-Y
So Fibga it became, yo. |
so Jet's latest Passenger Information update says : "Due to Cyclone Phailin, our services to and from Bhubaneswar has been disrupted."
(grammar error not mine)
Soon it will (should) say : "Due to JetZophrenia, our services to and from Bhubaneswar has JetFailed."
(grammar error replicated for effect) _________________ four years free of jetya punti! |
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